The Beechcraft Premier 1
2023 ж. 30 Там.
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Mike Bigler of Bigler Aviation at Mather and Mark examine Mike's Beechcraft Premier 1 and take it up for a flight. We want to publicly acknowledge Mike's generosity.
#jet #pilot #aviation #beechcraft @skywagonuniversity5023
The running commentary reflected the thought processes required to safely fly the plane. Most informative.
Really enjoyed this. I was the maintenance superintendent in the Comm Sq when Mather was an Air Force Base. I did the commissioning inspection of the ATC tower. The ASR had been destroyed by a fire and we installed a microwave link to McClellan who shot their radar signal to Mather and we imposed our map over it. For reasons no one seemed to understand there was a bump in the glideslope. The SAC wing commander only flew once a month, would see the bump and climb and be forced into a missed approach, which made him a very unhappy camper. Randolph AFB (TX) would fly a bunch of T-38's to Mather on a Friday, claim "maintenance issues" and then head for Tahoe or SF for the weekend. On Monday, those issues would magically disappear and they'd return to Texas. Mather was the training base for all military navigators.
Great guest and a great flight. I love when people are precise. It was a real pleasure watching Mike work. ....Marks so quiet. 😉
I was quiet because I knew nothing and Mike has been doing what he does for 40 years.
I like the fact that he doesn’t use the brakes unless he has to because they’re expensive. It’s the details that can make a difference.
Long runway.
A hearty thank you to both of you for sharing. :bow: This was a treat.
Glad you enjoyed it!
A fabulous way to spend 45 minutes and burn some Jet-A. What a machine! Mike knows his stuff, which you have to, to keep 30 minutes ahead of the missile, before it bites you on the bum!! Thanks Mark 😀
Could not have said it better myself.
Great video. Great airplane. Great pilot. The absolute sophistication of this aircraft is only exceeded by the knowledge and skill of this pilot. He makes it look so simple and straightforward. But remember, he's flown over 10,000 hours and has 27 type ratings. Wow. His comment about the differences between the Citation and the Premier are easily placed in perspective by a reference to another of my favorite youtube channels, "Premier1Driver", hosted by an owner/operator who flies his Premier for business and personal use. He comes to the Premier with over 1,000 hours in the General Dynamics F-16! That's probably just about the right background to fly this unbelievable space/time machine. It truly is a controlled missile with incredible capability.
Great comment. Thanks for watching!
I love the Collins Proline 21.. sure.. the huge Garmin screens are nice.. a lot of information.. but there's something so nice when you're behind the Proline.. it's all business.. clean and professional.. gives you what you need when you need it..
Concur!
I’ve been flying this Premier IA jet for about 12 months. I have the Pilot in Command Type Rating in the Premier with Single Pilot Endorsement. I enjoyed flying Premiers. I have dialed in to a point I was greasing these jets on for almost every landing. You have to fly these jets by the number. You can’t exceed Vref by more than 10 knots if you don’t want to float forever. It is not a short field jet but I felt confident landing on runways as short as 4800 feet. I refuse to fly these Premiers to airports with runways shorter than 4500 feet when the runways are wet. Biggest drawbacks of flying these old birds are maintenance, payload and range. Parts are getting expensive as they are no longer made. It has 6 to 7 seats but you cannot carry 6 full size adults and fly for 1000 nm. If you carry 6 passengers of 200 lbs or less, you can plan on flying for no more than 2 hours in IFR conditions with IFR reserve fuel.
This was a very interesting video and aircraft. Mike is one very knowledgeable pilot and very professional. I’m assuming his checklists are electronic and are showing up on the instrument panels. If it doesn’t, he has one hell of a memory and I liked how he was talking through what he was doing during the entire flight. I bet he would be a hell of a flight instructor!
Mike can remember all the frequencies of all the controllers as he flies across the USA.
The Premier 1a is one of my favorite aircraft, too bad it is no longer in production. Interesting dialog, thanks for the ride.
Mark, Mike and the crew, Many Thanks!!!
You are welcome!
Mark, Mike and the crew, Many Thanks for taking us along! Awesome video and Mike's knowledge, professionalism & Love of aviation really shines!
He teaches easily.
Awesome video guys!!! I really enjoyed the focus on the tech and specifics of the Premier 1 and Mikes enthusiasm in running through all the systems and showing her off! Beautiful plane for sure.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very generous of Mike and a great demonstration of a fantastic plane, and a fantastic pilot! Thanks Mark, Mike and Don (the camera guy)!
He knows my name! I'm an internet sensation! - Don the Camera Guy!
Mike, you made my whole day!! My last jet was a Premier 1A for just short of 700hr, mostly SP out of KPAE. After 20 years flying Navy jets, and 15 years flying 737s, the Premier was still a challenge to learn and a pure pleasure to fly. Passing up Citations was always fun. Once comfortable, you could make it sit up and speak! Loved the plane but the 2008 economy dump put an end to that. No one is looking for 83 yr old premier pilots now. If you ever get into KBVS, come over to our flight school at Cascade Aviation and have a cup of coffee. Bob
Thank you for this. Mike will come for coffee if he is in the area. Mike. Make sure you read this.
Excellent video, and what an amazing airplane.
premier is so neat
Looking forward to that PC-12/King Air Video next ;o) Thanks for the great content! Really informative and enjoyable. Greetings from German Piston World.
Thanks for watching!
Mark that was awesome spotted where I live off the port side before Folsom came interview
Nice. Mine was down there too but we were going fast.
A space ship indeed, what an aircraft, really fantastic! And Mike know's his stuff inside out. Very interesting and cool episode guys!
He flies it like I drive a car.
I really enjoy watching and listening to Mr. Mark. Ole super pilot Mike sounds like he’s the man, and a super over confident snobby prick.
Actually, he was incredibly generous with his time and his jet. He goes into instructor mode, but at no time did we feel like he was anything like you described. It is unfortunate that you were left with that impression of him. Mike is a very nice person. - Don the Camera Guy.
Now that’s a big skywagon
That was awesome
Enjoyed the uninterrupted flow. The CF fuselage structure increases the available cabin volume by nearly 15% and reduces the weight by about 20% and probably doubles the strength in comparison to a conventional alloy construction.
Great video. It's always impressive to see a professional pilot at home in the office. Definitely some takeaways that private pilots like me can use when flying much more simple machines.
Glad you enjoyed it!
a great video . the systems are very much a Boeing philosophy.
Your network is your net worth. Knowing people who will take you out in their jet and let you film it all for content is something not many people have access to. Sharing your own experiences is a wild dream for many and a real joy to watch. Go pro make a good camera every other generation. 7 bad, 8 good, 9 bad, 10 good, 11 bad. 12 released soon.
Thanks for the info. The GoPro 10 went off 3 times.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Alas! As the GoPro camera seeks glory in the heat of action, that very heat becomes its tragic flaw like a fickle actor, leaving the quest for the perfect shot a tale of 'to be continued... Are You using the new white batteries? They hold up much better to the older blue ones. Where the sun doth blaze, Go pros record their scenes not in summer's sweltering days.
Eloquent and true on all counts. Rumor has it the Osmo 4 does not overheat. We'll be putting that to the test shortly. - Don the Camera Guy.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 O noble Don, whose skilled hand doth weave the tapestry of images and tales, thy work with the DJI Osmo, though born in Chinese lands, shines like a beacon of excellence. As the CCP hath mastered the art of surveillance through lens and light, so too doth this technology grace our humble consumer goods. And lo, let us not forget GoPro, that emblem of American ingenuity, despite its fiery tempests of overheating woe. For in the land of stars and stripes, it doth endure, capturing adventures and escapades with fervor and flair. To Don, whose lens captures the essence of life's grand tapestry, and to the cameras and tools that grace his artistry, we offer praises as boundless as the horizons they unveil.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 The GoPro 12 is out now. kzhead.info/sun/iL5ud5Ssjal4noE/bejne.html this is what you have been hoping for
That was one of your best.
Thanks, Aircon2000!
Very interesting and I enjoyed the instructive nature. I enjoy your videos always but you found a guest with a talent for making complexity seem possible to master.
Thank you for watching our videos! We we pretty impressed by Mike's knowledge as well.
This was a really cool treat!
Great pilot nice vid
Glad you enjoyed it
G,day from Sydney Australia. Thanks Mark, alittle more knowledge in my memory bank about the Beechcraft Premier 1A with Williams jet engines. * nose wheel locking pin * composite carbon fibre fuselage * single engine capability to maintain a rate of climb * TCAS alert and collision avoidance * Stopped production 2012 * VNAV 'stepdown' It's seriously 'heavy iron' quality kerosene burners! 👼💨
G'day from Placerville! Thanks for watching!
Great video Mark, Thanks!
We know why Premier 1 Driver owns one these since he flew F16's.
Fantastic video! Very informative. I would love to hear more about Mike's philosophy on instrument interaction/management that he mentioned during the flight. Again, fantastic!
We'll invite Mike back for a casual conversation around the campfire and see if we can make something out of it.
5000’ ft a min I can climb out of here. “Damn” 😂
Stunning. Great video and commentary too. Remarkable machine. The nearest I get to that is programming into flight sim a Lear 45, sketchy wx into Telluride 😉😄👍✌️💜
Thank you for the praise! We try hard to provide interesting content.
That’s truly amazing content. Completely worth the watch 😊
Glad you think so!
Wow very technical aircraft, Thanks for the video
Jolly good show! And yet, I still want that Debonair you showcased...
Both Beeches.
Mike & Mark isn't the initial departure out of STS ?
This makes me miss Greg and 390GM
Same here , when is he posting his next video?
So true! He hasn't uploaded anything in 8 months. Tree Niner Zero Golf Mike....one hell of a pilot and one hell of a plane.
I wonder where he is
Greg sold his company and is semi retired splitting his time between his places in Flordia and Colorado IIRC. I think he talked about it in the last video he posted, or perhaps it was an Instagram story.
Who is Greg,
Very impressive. This is a bit different in avionics and performance to the usual stuff. Thank you for showing us this impressive machine.
Glad you liked it!
As a Canadian we have been metric since the 70s. However in my shop I’m still 99% imperial because most building materials are sold in imperial sizes eg. 4 by 8 plywood. When building a shed or deck I think imperial eg studs on 16 in centres, and buildings an decks are built in 4 foot increments to maximize materials. Our temperatures are somewhat strange as house and outdoor temps are exclusively metric but the water temp in our lake is always imperial. Cooking is mostly imperial. We have a ways to go before we are fully metric.
I think i saw this plane at the FBO the other day! Great content!
I was very confused about your trip to “Squaw Valley” at only 11,000 feet, because I didn’t know about the town near Fresno. After a bit of ForeFlight and Google searching, I learned about the little town and its contentious, recent name change to “Yokuts Valley.” Your (as usual) very cool aviation video gave me an enjoyable evening learning about California geography, history, sociology, etc! Thanks!
Thanks. Squaw Valley is the name of the VOR up there at 10,000 feet on the top of the ski resort.
Real eye opener
Did Mike ever tell you what instrument you have in your Mooney that is not in the Premier? Hint: it rhymes with slip/skid indicator. Cuz swept wing aircraft have yaw dampers.
Yes, it was a Turn Co-ordinator.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Yes I was paying attention to how you did that ... it had me confused at first when he asked and I thought that was where it should be , --- then it wasn't. @williamschwab3384 Yaw dampers, copy that.
The presence of the yaw damper has nothing to do with the lack of a turn coordinator. It has to do with angle of bank for a standard rate turn the flight director operates. It’s greater than a standard turn coordinator depicts. It’s based on speed. A Beech Duke has a yaw damper and a turn coordinator for example. Btw, most jets do depict the “slip/skid” on the PFD. They just don’t have the standard “two minute turn” turn coordinator you are used to seeing in a smaller airplane.
Cool to see something different… Barbie jets are fun! Funny though - the bigger bird you fly for work, the more you miss general aviation and tail wheel days…
Very true!
That is why I sell taildraggers to professional pilots.
This is next level mark
Thank you we were very lucky to have someone be so generous.
Well that was interesting, and nicely filmed, thanks. I like Mike's explanation of the instrumentation logic, ie whether you look at a traditional 6 pack or full glass, they basically are all telling you the same thing. The presentation is different, but the message is the same, basically how to get from A to B laterally, and with the introduction of VNAV you're offered A to B plus vertical guidance. I think Mark was impressed with the level of automation, (never heard him so quiet!) and by adding auto throttle an even further hands off experience is present. I don't know the Premier aircraft, but looks like no auto throttle here. Also, wasn't sure if this aircraft has a spoiler / speedbrake system, but this is where Mike's gear and flap speed limits and descent profile can all be helped. As for the unanswered question as to what instrument is in Mark's Mooney, not in the Premier, my money was going to be on a Manifold Pressure gauge.......... jets normally show power in percentage of N1 (compressor) speed. Thanks again all, keep up the good work.
Thanks. That is true but it is a turn co-ordinator.
@@skywagonuniversity5023I'm glad you answered that! Great video!
The Premier 1A does not have auto throttles , but it does have speed breaks. Mike kept on about speed control/management and being 30 minutes ahead of the plane so he didn’t have to deploy the speed breaks. The only time you really want to use speed breaks are after touch down, otherwise you are wasting fuel.
$26,000 a set of brakes??? Is that to replace the calipers pads and rotors? I sit because you have to replace the wheel hub / spindle each time? At least there's no TR's or LE devices... Also wondering, are the spoilers not approved in flight? - while you discussed decent profile and being ahead of the airplane... Did you discuss the cabin in the previous video - I'll look for it. Hope you noticed the painted on window! OH, and the instrument not on the panel was on his control yoke,.... turn & bank ind. [slip] maybe I went to sleep if he mentioned it, or did you fail the quiz and edit it out? :)
We superimposed the Turn Co-ordinator on the yoke to tip people off. You are the only one that saw it so far.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 LOL,.. wow
Greg Mink's channel Premier 1 Driver www.youtube.com/@gregmink has years of videos showing single pilot ops in a Premier 1A .. really the best and only channel that i know of that's dedicated solely to this wonderful aircraft (it has some short videos of the MU-2 he owned before the RA390).. everything said in this video is spot on.. It's a little owner/operator jet that acts and feels like a medium size jet.. they can be purchased right.. just be prepared to pony up for maintenance and repairs.. Beech has always been very proud of their parts.. nothing's changed.. it's the perfect jet for that citation owner when they get the "training wheels" off..
They are great planes.
Are you going to do a cessna 195 video. Love the classic lines!!!!
We have to get access to one, and they are not that easy to find.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 I thought I saw listed for sale through you. Maybe it was not at Placerville…
Great great video Teo amazing pilot by do way do way I own a jet and a ttx plus a LX7
We're glad you liked the video! Thanks for watching!
The early 2000 premiere i fly in had a hydraulic landing gear failure so the pilot had to pull the cable so that killed the landing gear doors but the catch tray was installed incorrectly so the carbon fiber started delaminating but he loves this jet so much he paid to have it fixed and his son flies it and maybe i will soon
You will like it.
I actually fly in co seat of a 01 premiere unless the owners wife/ pilot's mom wants to set up front
what are the fixed costs per year of owning this plane?
Now when will Mark get his first jet ?
That is a long way away.
Ahhhh, but the seed has been planted and I hear the wheels squeaking. @@skywagonuniversity5023
31:05 it's actually 2000fpm until 12000 and then 1000fpm. Nobody doing 2000fpm down from 10k
You’ve never flown with a 18-year-old who forgets to plan ahead!
With all those avionics - what's the box suctioned to the starboard window next to Mark's shoulder?
Probably a camera
Yup didn’t think if that. Just looked white and asdbish but that’s probably because of what those boxes look like in the UK. Thanks Mark great video.
“There is no such thing as a Premier II”. Only a Premier I and the Canadian export model. 🤣. Cheers!
The Premier II was in the works with winglets and other improvements but, as I remember, no additional fuel.
Mark, what camera are you using that has the heads up display?
We use a program called Telemetry Overlay. It uses the GPS data from the GoPro to create the effect. Not 100% accurate, but it gives you the idea. - Don the Camera Guy.
@@skywagonuniversity5023Cooool.
Thanks Don!
That yoke looks small. Does it make it twitchy in the roll?
Not really, you hardly need to touch the yoke in that machine.
No. It is actually a bit slow in roll. You have to get significantly nose up to do a proper aileron roll due to relatively slow roll rate. Passing that on from a friend.
What's was the missing instrument?
Turn and bank,.
I stand corrected it is out of Mather
Is every one impressed with Mike Bigler as much as he is??
There were three of us on that flight with Mike. Not one of us ended up with the same conclusion about Mike that you did. Mike is an excellent instructor and was very generous to give us a flight on his jet. He mentors young aviators, helping them transition to jets ... for free. We think that is pretty impressive, but not in the way you meant.
Missing instrument that the Mooney has but the Premier does not: Turn and bank??
Indeed.
This is a Premier 1 not 1Acorrect ?
Yes.
2009 model was a 1A.
Turn coordinator?
Yes. Why though?
He mentioned what instrument is not in the Premier vs 6 pack?@@skywagonuniversity5023
It's a shame it only has a 1200 nm range. Two fuel stops to go coast to coast? But otherwise, what an absolutely stunning aircraft.
Most hops in jets are under two hours. The Facon 50 is for Hawaii, London Moscow.
Falcon
Consider who would use this , Up in the Morning Have breakfast Spend all morning boasting how much money they have Go to the airport and fly somewhere for lunch (refuel) Buy some realestate ... just because ... Continue to final Have dinner Spend all night complaining about how hard their day was... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I once did PAE to Miami with one fuel stop at ICT with 3 light pax.
@@maxgood42 Our owners facilitated a lot of business -- no boasting -- with a Premier. Very useful business tool.
Hey I know that guy!
Mike?
@@skywagonuniversity5023yes. Ask him about my page. It’ll all make sense 🫡
I'll bet that guy can't change the oil in his Bugatti. ;-)
He can't because he does not have one, but he can in his ford truck and he's a mechanic.
no flight attendants :(
Flight was too short. There was a full bar in there though.
Well that was different … so was he ….! Stick to our puddle jumper’s 😂
The word is "excellent". We never know what we are going to film next.
Ask him about the fake windows for the owners ego
Haha! He was too nice to bring that up!
What fake windows?
@@skywagonuniversity5023 The rear "ego windows" are painted on. Beech premier jets only have 3 actual windows on the side.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 the rear "windows" on both sides in the exterior shots are not in fact windows. They are painted on. It's a running joke in the biz jet/charter world that we make fun of premier flyers/owners for this because they are compensating since there are far superior jets in it's class