The new Amazon Echo Hub is what you've been asking for. By no means is it perfect, but it's most of what you're after. Not only will you get a customizable dashboard for everything in the Alexa app, but you'll also get a quiet, calm smart display and even some local smart home control!
That's right, Amazon listened to their customers and put a ton of their learnings over the last few years into this new Echo Hub.
Today, we're giving you a full Amazon Echo Hub review, plus a comparison of the Echo Hub vs the Echo Show 8, 10, 5, and 15!
Buy an Echo Hub here: geni.us/NewEchoHub (Amazon affiliate link)
The Tilt Stand will be available on the buy page for the Echo Hub too.
Timecodes for today's video:
00:00 - The Amazon Echo Hub Review
2:50 - Introducing The Echo Hub
4:28 - Power Over Ethernet?
5:00 - Think About Placement Before Buying
6:21 - How Good Is The Smart Home Hub?
8:56 - Local Smart Home Control Surprised Me!
9:50 - Walkthrough of the Echo Hub Display Features
16:56 - How to Get 4 Cameras On Your Echo Hub Instantly
18:43 - Smart Home Control of Echo Hub vs Echo Show
19:13 - Echo Hub vs The Echo Shows
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Brian
Hey folks! If you're looking for the PoE adapter, this is the one Amazon links on their page: amzn.to/42Ko3bj (Amazon affiliate link) It's expensive, but that's the type. I put the full specs in this video though. So you can buy any PoE adapter that meets the specification and it will work.
Looks like Ms. A has hit it out of the park. Thank you for showing my next purchase ! Thanks for all your hard work on our behalf !
Our pleasure! Enjoy this one so much!
I will never buy another Alexa screen device. Given how they've treated software updates, performance and pushed ads all over it they've lose my trust entirely for screen alexa devices. I've sold the ones I had and am sticking with speaker-only.
Allllrighty! But this one's good so far. I get what you are saying but it's good!
I hate the ads too. And software updates have destroyed my Echo Show 5 causing the screen to break up because the processor is not fast enough to show the ads. I like the Echo Hub, and will probably wait for a few months before I buy one to see what Amazon does with the ads.
Same here all my Alexa screens are gone and using speakers only as we were sick to death of waking up to look at the clock and seeing adverts instead of times. Never will I buying an Amazon product with a screen. Again. They have lost my trust in that respect. Shame as this looks like a good product.
What’s with the ads? I have an echo show 8 and don’t get any ads. Where do the ads come from? Is it cause I’m in Canada I don’t get them?
@DoctorRevers nope, you can tone down the settings to get almost none. They still move a bit whereas this display can be completely calm.
Brian, great coverage on the new Echo Hub. I love that it’s matter & thread enabled. When buying a matter device, how will I know that it’ll pair with this hub? So often they don’t play well together and always wondering what will work & what won’t? Thanks.
Thanks Dan! The answer is eventually all Matter devices should work with the hub. The answer also is right now if it's not a plug or a light, it's probably not going to work today.
Off subject: I homeschool. I find myself increasingly using Alexa. For example, son today told me he had never heard a certain spelling word before. Ms a defined it for us. She also helped with pre algebra lessons. Never would have thought of using her for such things before but I'm glad I have her.
What a great use case! Amazing :D
Will they roll some of this over to my echo show 15
Nice video . Can we used widgets or automations IFTTT or Flic button ? Thanks
Flic works with Alexa, yep! IFTTT had its integration break recently though
Thanks! This will be my Birthday present!
Happy birthday!
And thank youuuuu!
_Update_ Coming soon. Monthly fees.
Can you imagine the marketing spin? NOW WITH MONTHLY FEES!
@@AutomateYourLifeOH THANK GOD
Nice video. Ms A needed a much better display. Glad to see that this option exists!
Yeah! Big leap for them!
Thanks so much, Brian. FINALLY, something interesting from Amazon. I had no idea this was coming out, but might have to get one during their next big sale. I still find that in some cases, Alexa Routines do things I'm not able to do easily in Homekit. I now see videos popping up on this device from some of your YouTubing peers, but had to watch yours first. Thanks again, Brian. I predict, though, that once Amazon gets these things in general distribution they'll decide to start feeding ads...something I find so annoying on the Echo Shows.
I really hope they don't do that Hugh. It's such a benefit to have this quiet display in my home. Amazing actually. But yeah! This is a GREAT sign of things if this is what Amazon's doing in 2024. A few more features, and this one might just hit all the right notes.
And thanks for watching this one first ;)
Hi Brian, do you think they might update the software on the show15 to give the same functionality ? Its very laggy when trying to do anything at the moment
I sure hope so...but I haven't been told anything like that.
I was looking seriously at the 8 for home automation and after watching your video it confirms how purpose built the Hub is and worth the extra coin. Have Sonos and proper sound system in the room the Hub will sit so sound quality not an issue.
Enjoy!
Thanks for the detailed look! Pretty sweet product. My wife likes the idea that it doesn't take up counter space, but our Show 8 is where the kids engage with Alexa the most with games and music. So, we'll see where the Show Hub ends up. For me, this is far more what I've been wanting for a smart display. I love how it will show whether ANY lights are on and can turn them off with one tap. That's super useful.
Yeah the control stuff is incredibly useful for you Brad! Good luck with the convincing 🤣
But I already turn all our lights off by just saying "Alexa, NiteNite!" at which time the bedeside lamp goes on, all the rest on switch off, the ones already off stay off, and she even checks the door locks and if unlocked she locks them and annouces "Checking…" and the "The doors are now locked."
Does Amazon provide the adapter to connect the enthernet cable? If not I wouldn't be interested
They have one on the buy page, but it's expensive.
Hi. Do you think this could substitute the Homey Pro in terms of connectivity? Thank you
I wouldn't put them on the same level. Amazon has 140k products that can be connected, but most through Wifi. Hub features and automation options are minor Homey Pro is a huge hub with great automation features, but less overall products to connect to.
@@AutomateYourLife Thank you for your help!
any idea where or how to find out whether a particular zigbee device is supported?
If we could find that out Alex, we'd be the most viewed on YT! But sadly...no dice. If it's a bulb, switch, or plug, it should work. Many basic motion/contact sensors too. But there's no list today :(
If my smart heating and lights system and a video doorbell is already Echo compatible, will it automatically be compatible with this?
Without having tried every combo, yes
When you go into the Locks view at the bottom, does it show you the status of each lock? The Alexa app just shows a list of locks and not whether they are locked or unlocked.
@RebelMagpie All my Yale locks show locked or unlocked but they don't show open or closed
Yeah sadly that's going to depend on the maker. Switchbot and Wyze just show lock unlock to me
Nice video Brian, this HUB will be my last attempt at using Amazon Smart products, have used most of their products and have always been underwhelmed and hating adds. This seems to be a swing back in the right direction. Looking forward to trying this out. I hope it has WIFI 6. What I miss is the option to hard wire it into the wall using the stand to avoid any wires.
No Wifi 6 Gary, but...PoE! I hope it works out for you!
Excellent video Brian. I've been waiting for this device for a long time. If I get one, I'd like to set it up with PoE so I hope you'll go into that in your "setup" video. Is there a CAT5 jack or a PoE/USB C dongle or ? My primary hub is a SmartThings V3 and finally it seems to have settled down and everything is working the way it should. I'd love to see you do a video of how a home setup would work if some of the devices were hosted on SmartThings, and some of the devices were hosted on the Echo Hub. Thanks again Brian for another great video. P.S. I'll be waiting for someone to create a plastic j-box to go in the wall to make it easy to connect this either to AC or the CAT6 cable. Yes, I could just use a standard j-box. But it would be cool if someone designed a j-box that hide the wires and power supply AND connected/attached to the back of the device too. If I was 30 years younger and had a 3D printer, I'd design one myself.
Hey! Sooooo, this is the Adapter Amazon is recommending with the Echo Hub. amzn.to/42Ko3bj (Amazon affiliate link) It's Cat 5 -> USB-C as it should be, but it's expensive. Check the specs on the video (I put it in a comment at the bottom of the video when we're talking about PoE) and you can buy just about any one!
@@AutomateYourLife Thank you so much Brian. Yes, that one IS expensive. I'll look for a cheaper one. If one uses a POE connector, does the Echo Hub use the cable for network access, or just use it for power and still use Wi-Fi for comms?
Have you noticed any difference in responsiveness when pulling up a camera/doorbell live view? I have Eufy cameras and a lot of people online said they had reliability and latency issues when opening the live view on their Echo Show 8/15/etc. Is it noticeably quicker on the Echo Hub?
I see no speed improvements. Most of the speed is driven by the vendor and their ability to integrate with Amazon's backend. Also, the amount they pay for that speed/service.
Ok question - how do I put just a single on/ off on the Home Screen? For example, my kitchen light is 3 smart lights. When I add a favorite or a group, it puts the whole block of everything in the kitchen, or the on/ off option but all three light bulbs to the right of it so on my Home Screen it takes too much room!
For future stuff, here's a full guide to the Echo Hub: kzhead.info/sun/fbSuorJ-rpRodn0/bejne.html. Timecodes and everything you need should be in there. But for this, I don't believe there's a way to just put a single control on the page. You could make a group and only put that group in, but I don't think that's going to take up any less room for you
Thanks Brian.
Thank you Ron!
I would like to see a little more focus on the voice assistant side of the echoes. For me, the screen is useless as I do not video call and it is more convenient to make changes on the app from a smart phone or tablet as they tend to be where I am sat instead of across the room where the echo is sat .
You'll want to watch this part of the Alexa development then! kzhead.info/sun/fJp_odSlg6apa6M/bejne.html
Will that show you cameras & camera info from Nest or do they have to be Ring cameras?
I have my newer Nest Cameras and Doorbells connected. They do work
I used eufy cameras and used the Amazon skill to be able to view a live feed however it’s completely useless as it shows no more than 1 - 2 minutes before it cuts out 🤷🏻♂️
Hey Brian. What kind/brand cameras are working natively with this hub ?
Anything that works with Alexa today comes up when you tap on it. However, so far I only see the on display previews on Ring. I imagine Blink does, but I didn't test that yet!
Is this still worth buying Google nest hub 2 because I’m using Alexa and I’m thinking about switching because I’m kind of fed up with Alexa echo show 5
I like it a lot. It's not perfect by any means but this is a huge upgrade over the Echo Show 5 if you're looking for dashboard-based smart home control. Biggest problem is it's a little sluggish at times.
@@AutomateYourLife thank you for letting me know
So the big question is, is it really usable as a display for your security camera(s)? i.e does it still go off after 20 minutes, like the show? And can you get it to display automatically at certain times without a voice command & corresponding loud “OK”.
It's gonna time out for sure. Haven't tested the timeframe. Also, to not get a loud OK...just add in a Set Volume to 0...then bring up the cameras. Wait 5 seconds. Set volume to X
Hi, can you keep the screen off and turn on only when someone's in front?
It goes to that in the dark. So not in a light room unless you cover the ambient sensor. At least that's what I've found so far. Maybe I'm missing a setting though.
@@AutomateYourLife thanks!
Can we have clarity on the poe adaptor? So because they've forgone an actual rj45 port, I now need to buy a POE to USB C adaptor for power delivery only. I'm assuming it isn't a data and power adaptor as they're approx £100, nearly as much as the device itself.
Wow.. it is a power and data adaptor which is nearly more than the device!!!! And if the wall is solid and you have cat6 already what then? I chase the brick out for a stupid adaptor. Jesus christ, what a stupidly thought out product.
It's both. Data and Power
Soooo...before you go damning the product... You can buy any PoE adapter that meets the specs. They released the specs and it's in this video when we talk about it.
I'm damming the oversight of needing an adaptor! Here in the UK we have primarily solid walls. I ran ethernet to the wall I intended to mount it, and now I come to find ill need to chase the wall more, to fit an unnecessary adaptor.
It's available in my area but definitely need a review before running 🏃♀️ and buying I'm not feeling the 8" screen though
I don't know if you know this...but this is a review!
@@AutomateYourLife yes ik that's why I watch it before running and buying
Lol I thought maybe you were looking for something different!
@AutomateYourLife no definitely looking st different reviews before I go and go buy it still thinking about it wish the screen was bigger I believe they could have done a system update for our echo system devices we already have
Just received mine today. How do i keep the screen from going dark when idle?
It's based on brightness in the room. It'll go fully dark if it's dark in the room Check settings, Display Options for more options for you. Enjoy it!
It's going fully dark no matter what after about 2 minutes of inactivity. I choose my photos to display but no go.
I turned off adaptive brightness. Is there a sleep mode that I can find?
Auto dim is also off.
@JedEckert try reboot?
After watching this video I went to Amazon to see if it was available in my region to order it. Yes it was. Back in October when they first announced this product they offered a trade in. I sent back my old Echo show 8, and would get a 25% discount when I order the HUB which was available soon. 9th of October confirmed received. Now tried to use the discount and its not available having just spoken to various Amazon people the discount was only valid in the quarter I received it so Q4 last year. It was never mentioned it was a limited offer as I did it to purchase the HUB which now finally after 4 months delay is available. Nice one Jeff...
So how do you use your 25% discount? They have your Echo Show 8 right???
No I sent back the Echo Show 8 Gen.1 to get a general 25% discount on the purchase of the HUB (they call it Trade-In). As it took Amazon another four months to launch the HUB the discount is no longer valid.@@AutomateYourLife
Me too, mine shows as "active" in my trade in account too.... Very annoyed. I am in the UK and the product page still shows the save 25% offer as well.
Sorry to hear this Gary. Something seems off to me. I hope you both @alanmarshall101 and @garyhenderson9303 get your deals and your trade in. Seems odd that they would take the Echo Show back and then not give you some kind of credit. Something's gotta happen there.
Try adding the Echo Hub to your basket then proceed to the checkout page. I think you should see the 25% discount applied to the final amount to be paid. This worked for me today.
Ooooooh I’ve been waiting for a review of this 🍿
😃😃😃👍👍
Brian, you are wired to Amazon/Alexa. Do you think that Amazon will load the Hub firmware on the Echo Show 15 screen so we can have a larger Hub?
I think eventually this format will come to many devices in Amazon's lineup. Absolutely.
Can Home Assistant be side loaded?
Nope
So what would be the advantages of this over mounting a fire tablet to a wall?
I think I demonstrated that in the video. Sorry, but it would take me an hour to explain that difference. It's not even close to the same thing
@AutomateYourLife I'll rewatch the video I might have missed that part. I know my alexa app on my phone now does the group control widget where I can turn an entire grouping of lights on and off but I'll definitely rewatch
Do you see any chance of Amazon providing this software experience on an Echo Show 8?
I see a chance, but...i wouldn't bank on it. Amazon's likely to consider it based on sales and usage of this display.
It would make sense for this to be the experience on other Echo Show devices when you swipe down from the top and select SmartHome
I received mine today, and can confirm the ring alarm panel works perfect, arms/disarms all fine without an active ring subscription, what i would like to see is full screen when i click on climate, and why doesn't the ring alarm panel look not match the actual control panel, i think i should be in these board meetings.
Without??? I couldn't get it to do that!
@@AutomateYourLife Yes iv got no subscription, i'm not in a trial or anything, but it all works perfect, arm, disarm, part arm. and all sounds on the ring keypad as well, maybe its different in the UK.
Can I disarm my Ring Alarm putting in a code . I was reading somewhere this is not a feature yet.
I did it :)
For me needs to be portable, If I'm in the kitchen, lounge, bedroom I want control or to see the cameras from there watching kids/doorbell etc. If I'm walking to my hub to see/do something, I might aswell just go to the thing.
Yeah and so...you might like the Pixel Tablet!
This seems like an obvious option, so I'm guessing it's been considered. I wouldn't be surprised if a different version comes out down the road if there's enough interest, and I was also thinking perhaps at least a larger size option. Also can see some 3rd party companies come up with some type of battery stand for it, like I've seen for Echo dots.
I'd imagine there will be a 3rd party battery pack accessory very soon. It would take almost zero development. it's just 5v 2.4 amp. So a battery cradle combo would be super easy to implement.
I think battery power for such a hub device is very unlikely since you will want the various radios in the Echo Hub to always be powered. That way your connected smarthome devices don't stop working if the battery goes flat.
@dvwebster can't really say without knowing the actual consumption in wattage. A charging cradle/base with a battery capacity of 4-8 or more hours would sell I think? Live on the base most of the time but also serve as a baby monitor, who knows. People put batteries on dumber things;) that's only 12.5 watts. A pack 1/4in thick that matched the back of this would easily be 30,000 mAh. . Enough to power this thing for 8 hours.
Do zigbee devices work locally?
It's in the video, but I get that detail would be hard to catch. Zigbee devices didn't work locally, but I only tested a few. Just the Bluetooth bulb I tested did work locally. It's just the start. :) This is something I will be sharing with the Amazon Team as a really important feature and honestly...I don't get why it didn't work locally. I bet you it's a small thing, so I hope this is something I can update in the near future and be positive about!
Can I buy a fire tablet and run this software on the tablet? This looks great, but I don't want it stuck in one room/wall
Not yet. I haven't seen it available anywhere else.
@@AutomateYourLife thank you for letting me know. I’m going to get one and try attaching a battery to the back.
@hillaven2745 might take a bit for those Accessories! But good luck!
Any DIY system with monitoring subscription that can give you the best smart home, cametas,lights, thermostat, door locks, graage door...
This is pretty DIY (Ring and Amazon) and they have a monitoring subscription for $20.
Thank you for the knowledge you provide. So if I go with Ring I can then use Echo as my Main Control Panel in conjunction with its app ? Lastly, I wanted to monitor my Water heater Tank for leaks which will start in the pan, anything that's Ring compatible (water sensor)?
How is the calendar support
Same as any Amazon Alexa device. Similar to the Echo Shows. Weak overall as it just supports a few types.
The improvement on calendars is just the widget allowing you to see it on the main page
This actually feels like a rare screenbased device that actually does warrant the term hub
It's weird and wild that Amazon put this out. Who could have guessed???
@@AutomateYourLife has to be said they wouldn’t have been my guess as the first to put out a decent version
Can this actually be powered by POE?
It absolutely can :)
Does Local control work with any voice controls?
Alexa requires the internet today and I expect, the future.
@@AutomateYourLife that would be a game changer. While a lot of it, I can see requiring the internet but if I am just turning on my lights, changing my thermostat, etc. that should be local :(
@Djblois1 we can dream for that day! It seems to be taking a lot for these voice models to be stored and operating though. Costs seem to come up quite a bit. Let's dream though, and keep asking!
so why did it have to be a new (expensive) device and not just a big software update for the Show devices?
We will see if this goes to the echo shows later on. I think there would be some challenges with infrared vs camera and a few other things. So we will see
I've noticed older Echos, (Echo Dot, Echo, Echo Show 5) do not show up on the Hub. If they are the only device in a group, then the group doesn't show up either. The Echo Show 8 and 10 do show.
Interesting. I did not notice that! I had all the other echo shows online and they all showed.
What would be great and maybe you can get the word to Amazon is that if I can locally control my Samsung SmartThings hub through my Alexa hub in other words without internet that I can control on my echo hub screen Z-Wave and zigbee devices when the internet is off if they can somehow connect locally the Alexa hub to the smart things hub. I don't know if you're picking up what I'm laying down because when the internet is down I can't access my smartthing hub through my phone just a manual switches in the house but since the echo hub does not lose connection when Wi-Fi is off maybe it can locally control my SmartThings hub
I know what you're saying! But...both companies are well aware of the benefits of local control and sharing this kind of control. However...we aren't there and I doubt we will see it anytime soon, if ever. Doesn't mean I won't try with them many times...cause I will!
And truly, your ST Hub doesn't lose connection to Wifi or your home network when your internet goes down. Just the app. So make local automations and they'll still work on SmartThings. Just not the app
Yes you're correct When the Wi-Fi is down I can still use my switches and all my Z-Wave devices and automations still work from my curtains to my blinds and everything else My motion sensors as well. It would just be cool if Internet was down and I can still control all those Z-Wave devices and zigbee devices with my Amazon hub when there's no internet. 😊
PS. Huge fan of your channel ❤👍🍻
@allenlavaty8627 thanks man!
I’m still with Google on the screens. I hear people complaining about Google lately but luckily I haven’t had issues. I wish Amazon made their screens faster, and that this software could run on Echo Show 15!
It'll be really interesting to see if they port it to the other Echo Shows as a new dashboard option. I really hope they do.
i had google, then tried amazon, and just gave google another try for 2 weeks and trust me google is shockingly bad compared to amazon, wrong answers, didnt understand, you name it. im back to amazon again,
Simply superb unfortunately not yet released in india
Too bad! Sorry!
👍Nice! But i like the Google pixel tablet better
To each their own!
Why doesn’t Alexa support Netvue cameras anymore they use to work with mine here in the uk
I would imagine that's a brand choice, not Amazon's. They don't turn off skills on their own. So maybe the company just stopped working on the integration?
Will they bring it out in all black, cheers.
I don't know, but I'd like that for sure! We didn't get a choice in color so that tells me it's at least a ways away.
@@AutomateYourLife ill keep my eyes peeled. the ring alarm keypad and somfy on screen will allow me to remove 2 devices from my bedroom wall. do you know if it would be possible to output music to a nest mini, as i have these im mt ceilings in 3d printed mounts, and there slick. cheers.
I don't know right now sorry. I know in the past I've connected by Bluetooth and done some playing between the two. However, I don't know how reliable or permanent that would be. If you have an Echo (or better yet) an Echo Show, try it out and see how it works. This works the same. :)
I just checked on Amazon to see if there's already add ons or 3rd party devices yet, and saw a few types of frames you can add (wood, metallic, etc.). No black, but I'd expect one to come; it also showed an example of taking a white one and matching it whatever color your walls are. Not ideal, but interesting they're considering that option, especially matching wall colors.
@@AutomateYourLife Cheers, iv just ordered one of these, got a 25% trade in with an old dot and paid £122 , ill give it all a go when it arrives , i did switch back to google for 2w but wow its bad at ignoring, saying i don't understand etc, alexa performs much better. cheers.
My first reaction was: "Finally! At last, I no longer have to sit in my easychair and tell Alexa what to do! At last, I no longer have to pick up my cell phone to use Alexa to create new routines! Instead, I finally can control my house by repeatedly simply jumping out of my chair all day/evening and strolling across the room to stare at the wall and use my fingers to poke around at this frame stuck on the wall to add new devices, to issue commands, and to create and modify my routines! What a breeze! What an improvement!" I am grateful for all the new features and arrangements and connectivity, but why this thing on the wall? Is this just to satisfy the hobbyists who have been complaing about the lack of a wall-mounted device? Is this just to sell another piece of hardware? If so, why couldn't the standard model have been the tabletop design and the extra cost one been for those lusting for a wall-mounted device? And why not an option to make at least the software functions available as an app on our computers and tablets, and sell the hardware portion available separately?
This is a lot to answer! I think it's on the wall cause that's what people have been asking for. The word dashboard is a major search request (I never use it cause I think existing solutions have always sucked) and this fits that request 100% But they do have a tilt mount so you can get it on a table or shelf. As for why isn't it software? 🤷
You presented them superbly when at the end you said, each is good in its own way for a category. But no one does it all. And the new model, without ads, will surely be with a subscription, and from the hardware point of view, it seems like a bad joke to me.
We do know Amazon's working on a Plus level subscription for Alexa, but that won't affect the device. The Ring subscription really helps with a security system...but otherwise, I don't see a new subscription coming for this Hub. Just my sense of it.
Hardly a game changer, still no custom widgets for other services outside of the Amazon wall garden. its a shocker.
Will this show my SmartThings devices? I have a SmartThings hub.
Yep! Most things will show up well. Not everything is perfect, but it's great.
Obligatory question -- HomeAssistant support?
There's no difference between this and Echo Shows. So for the most part what you have working today will work better on this. But support is a tricky word. Not sure if that is everything you mean!
IMPORTANT question: Lol does it have a voice activated stopwatch? If it does, it's automatically better than Google now... Since Google is apparently DISCONTINUING that basic feature.
It absolutely does ;)
@@AutomateYourLife Ops my mistake, not timer.. I mean STOPWATCH lol.
Nope
@@AutomateYourLife ohh no. Guess it must be harder than we thought to maintain/implement such a basic feature lol
I watched this vid twice so please forgive me if I missed it, but can you reorganize the home display? For example - I would want ROUTINES to be the first thing that shows as opposed to CAMERAS.
You can reorganize the widgets. Absolutely! Thanks for the question and for watching!
@@AutomateYourLife thanks so much for the response, Brian.
I thought this was what I wanted until I realized that it has to be plugged in, no battery. The ideal location for me would be my coffee table.
You'll find some mounts will come out, but it'll be big and heavy then. Maybe the next version ;)
@@AutomateYourLife I might consider a PoE adapter and place it on my computer desk, but I really wanted it on my coffee table, near where I spend most of my time.
Cool video. I wish this product was... more thought out. It really just looks like a tablet glued to the wall. Thanks for the review! Also... Stop renting man! you could be building wealth & actually hardwiring your smart home things~~~
I'd love to stop renting! Waiting on a personal situation to clear up :)
I constantly have to tell Amazons Alexa the same simple commands I’ve repeatedly said for years just to turn on and off my Hue lights and 40% of the time it gets it wrong.. So I’m definitely not getting anymore Amazon Amazon ‘so called’ smart home devices!
Just an option for you. You do you! But routines help you to create specific ways to say things that always make exactly what you want happen. Voice is imperfect. Always has been
So they've basically made a lower end nest hub Max
Wall mountable, and better instant control of Ring Security and Cameras, but...ya.
Big Big issue. I'd get one except it doesn't have a camera so no video chatting which i do alot with family. I'll keep my google nest hub max. It does most of what the echo hub does.
I so want this but... as the saying goes, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Now that the firesticks no longer go to the home screen but immediately display ads and of course, the "show" me more ads echos I absolutely do not trust amazon to leave this device be. Even if the ads stay off just look at how fragmented the phone app has become. Fortunately, alexa routines have remained solid but I can easily see a Homey Pro in my future.
You gotta make sure you're comfortable, for sure! I think it's a great step, but there's reason to wonder if they'll leave it as such a good experience. I think we'll know in 6 months where it's headed :)
So amazon took all of our suggestions and instead of putting it in the echo show devices we ready have....... they put them in a new device that we'd have to buy??? As someone who has a complete alexa smart home this really pissed me off. I hope they push this new system to all the recent existing echo show devices because thats bs.
It'll be interesting to see what does and doesn't come to the existing echo shows. I hope a lot of it does!
@@AutomateYourLife the option to switch the 15 to use this and fire tv would be awesome.
It looks like there's a 2 to 3 second pause between bringing up device groups. That's disappointing for a dedicated home automation device
Sometimes it takes a few seconds, but definitely not always. It's a little random
@@AutomateYourLife I feel like we should expect better from a dedicated device, especially one that costs almost $200
@cdarrigo I just tested it. Around 2 seconds for the first group. Then under 1 second for any groups I tap after
Until Amazon stops using them as a vehicle to push their own products, I’m not spending another dime on an Alexa product.
No Z-wave....deal breaker. OK if you are completely into Amazon ecosystem but for Z-wave devices a second hub needed.
You do you!
I'm with you! I have a house full of Z-Wave+ switches, devices, and thermostats. The fact that this doesn't support Z-Wave is a huge miss in my book.
Well, until Amazon starts taking their programming and integrating with other products, including their own more seriously I won’t be buying anything else labeled as ‘Smart’ by them..
Now if only the UI didn't run at 10 FPS.
Does that actually matter day to day? Also, I didn't see a spec stating that. Did you?
The 10fps was a joke, but it does matter day to day if the UI isn’t very responsive to touch and movement. The echo shows certainly have a terrible touch response and often require multiple touches to register a command. The hub didn’t appear to be much better when you were using it. Maybe it is in practice, but the shows I’ve used aren’t a great indicator.
@kielhawkins9529 it's much better. Is it a phone? No
@@AutomateYourLife what I really wonder is, is it as good or better as mounting something like a fire HD10 to the wall?
Looks pretty cool and a great upgrade to a dashboard like experience. However, it appears this new echo hub suffers from the same laggy and choppy UI as every other echo show.
Yup. and imagine how much slower it will be a couple years later, full of ads and bad updates.
I went through it pretty well towards the end. It's faster by a lot. Is it perfect? No. But this is no Echo Show experience
Pity they, Amazon don't listen to everyone saying that all the shows are deaf.. sick of them listening to a command then turning off without doing anything, or just guessing what it thinks it heard, turning the tv off instead of lights on, or just not hearing anything you say, even though I live in a very quiet place with no ambient sound.. I replaced my old show with a newer one that follows you around, thinking they may have improved the microphones but no it is 20 times worse.. Never buying anymore Amazon smart stuff again.. absolute rubbish and a waste of money.. And BTW I'm no beginner to this been setting up smart home for over 5 years and used to build PC's also used to write code so I know what I'm doing..
Hmmm...I dunno what's going on but that hasn't been my experience. Do they make mistakes? Yep. But not at that level. You might not be ready to hear this but when I've seen behavior like this, It is often related to communication through your network or potentially to Amazon. So maybe there's a hiccup somewhere along the lines there
I've had great success with my Amazon devices that don't have screens. My original Echo (the big tower) is still going strong.
Way overpriced! I have a few smart home devices but it just doesn't justify the expense! Ill stick with my show 10s.👍 great review though.
bello ma per quei soldi, schermo troppo piccolo.
Ok!
Never again will I trust a single Amazon product. This will end up with paid/subscription features, ads and more soon. Like every other device they have released. Look what they're doing now, gatekeeping previously included features behind paywalls. They're dead to me in home automation.
Ok!
Looks super small
That's what she said! Yes! Michael Scott reference!
@@AutomateYourLife 🤷🏻♂️we all can’t be blessed
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The look and design of this things makes no sense. This will look like crap on your table, it will look even worse on your wall. Someone here convinced me that this thing wasn't an early prototype and Amazon F it, ship it. This thing is half baked and will not be supported past the year without subscription. I can't even finish the video, this is disgusting.
So you bought 3?
@@AutomateYourLife they do sell a paintable frame www.amazon.com/All-New-Made-Amazon-Frame-Echo/dp/B0CDQPKJ2J
Whoa! And hello Jennifer :)
Why do they release this now when the echo sho 8 3rd gen is still not available in Canada ? Thats weird !
I can get both here in the UK with a 25% off with trade in, but they don't do it in black, only white.
I didn't even notice that? Huh... Well it does look available in Canada!
@@AutomateYourLife well not in Quebec, still 2nd gen pos !
@@AutomateYourLife not in quebec obviously ! I may have to drive to Ontario to get one. Bummer. After checking on Best Buy ontario site, not available ! Only 2nd gen !!!!
I just look up the price ! Wowo, 240 canadian roupies ! I think I'll pass for now !
Ahahahaha rouples! That's how it feels these days doesn't it?
@@AutomateYourLife 🤪🤣