Peter Boghossian and I discuss the political religion of Wokeness, where it came from, how it operates and more.
This is part of an interview I did back in 2019 for my film When in Doubt. I was primarily interviewing him about his book How to Have Impossible Conversations and then I spent part of our interview discussing Woke ideology. So that's what this video is. My filmmaking partner and friend, Matt, who is a Portland progressive, occasionally asks questions, too. So you'll hear his voice in there, as well.
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Smith_mundt act is how we was protected from this
Woke ideology came because people realized history is made up and if you can make up myths about America, you can make up everything. So why are we mad now when we should've been mad at the original program? Nothing matters so why not say a toaster is a bird?
@@suzygirl1843 no it's because the smith_mundt act was abolished and bookings institute is doing the exact sale thing Frankfurt school of Germany did
@@suzygirl1843 you can't make up a more dumb conspiracy theory than this idea our founded lied when they boldly switched themselves out on everything
@@dadsonworldwide3238 Bottomline is nobody is taking the American or British institutions seriously because its revisionist. It always has been. I'll always want to know what people of the 12th century wrote but I should also critically poke at the loopholes in their own scriptures.
“The next time some academics tell you how important diversity is, ask how many Republicans there are in their sociology department.” Thomas Sowell 👍
One of Facebook's ex higher-up's once stated that Republicans were probably the most at-risk minority in Silicon Valley.
Excellent point 👏
Social Justice definition of diversity, “Invariably agreeing with the presuppositions of my movement.”
A student wrote her thesis on the issues with our social science and psychology departments and their conservative students. Student's with more conservative views have to self sensor b/c these professors single you out and make you go up against a panel to discuss why you expressed the views that you did. Other students that agree with the professors are left alone, while the ones that disagree undergo witch-hunts. I went to a cal state and geez these departments are out of control
You wouldn’t cross the road when you see one coming, if they were always here
"What they have done incredibly well is restrict people's speech" YES. YES. YES. Boghossian nailed it.
Free speech is being discouraged ( which is wrong).. but technically its not restricted ..like say in Vietnam
It seems right wing politics has this this affliction. No matter what the subject, any counterpoint to the left’s ideals is racist, bigoted or misogynistic. All in the name of silencing people for a different opinion.
its only restricted if you care what they think.
@@fbryce1ify I can see no difference between a store that was closed because the owner was Jew, as happened almost 90 years ago in Germany, and a person that is cancelled from is job in presents times. I mean, the law is changing for restring speech, companies started to fire who dares to say something "wrong". Universities are having riots. Western professional athletes are knelling down all over the world. This is having real costs. This is just not words. This is action.
In Essex Vermont the woke community leaders actually fire teenagers from expressing that younger children are suffering emotionally from this ideology. The town actually fired the young man and then misappropriated funds and paid him for fear of being sued. I actually brought this to the attention of the o state's equity office and said that after what our children have suffered due to the COVID protocols can't the state review how schools are implementing Equity. The person actually said, "Don't you think white children should feel the same pain as black children?" How can any state employee be allowed to utter something ch a sentence?
This content is insanely fascinating. It is like talking about an alien civilization.
right.. perfect way to look at it. scary thing is he's not... lol
Except the aliens live here on earth. It’s like “V” or “They live”.
@@chrisn2125 what v you speak of v for vendetta?
@@antlerr No, “V”, the show about aliens infiltrating Earth.
@@josephbrown9685 you do realize there's no alien's right! After all humans called humans from any other part of earth illegal alien's after all 😉 so do not fall for the stupidity.
Great talk. Peter is a legend, went go-karting with him once on Sunday.
Did you both check your privileges before riding the go-karts?
@@bushwacka5187 Yes, Pete scored slightly higher than myself on the privilege-gage so he to drive a slower kart. There was a black disabled woman there who they gave a rocket car
@@Itskilo 🤣🤣🤣
He was arguing with me that we should go on Wednesday
@@Itskilo I hope you both discussed the disruptiveness of ableistic, heternormative assumptions about having cis gender babies.
"When you're educating somebody you're not putting something into them, you are leading them out of something." I'll never forget that!
I have been a professor for eight years in the Humanities. I’m thinking about writing anonymously for the Chronicle to speak out against the ‘ideological homogeneity’ and general absurdity of this New Gospel. We just did a hire. Imagine what a hire is like. This is an inspiring video. Thanks for making it.
Be sure to protect your identity! Wouldn't want the woke gestapo coming after you like so many others.
@@xEvilRaptorx Too late.
I go to portland state where dr Boghossian used to teach. I so wish I had gotten to take a class from him, he’s such an intelligent and well spoken guy. I’m so sick of my university and ready to graduate
I've been hanging out with a college student from a very liberal city in the US. When I brought up in our group that there are young people arguing that 2+2=5, the response from the person next to me was "Oh don't be silly, that isn't a thing" then the college student said "Yes, it's a thing". We're fucked.
Fascinating insight. They're in the process of successfully removing the scientific method from universities & changing academia from engine of growth and progress to a engine of tribal consent.
Which is going to make things a lot worse than they would be if these woke idiots would just shut up and let people live in peace. And the worst part is that they believe that they are doing the opposite of that! Oh, the irony. It would be funny if the consequences weren't so horrible.
They are training activists to effect change in the world. Students have ways wanted that throughout history but now the institutions are weaponising it. Universities are MASSIVELY wealthy and influential institutions.
Sure "they" are.
In the 1980s I was an engineering major at Arizona State University. I became a dorm Resident Assistant and was required to take a course at the College of Education. I'll never forget being totally confused and intellectually lost because unlike my math, physics, and engineering courses, NOTHING was proved from first principles. Squishy, vague all-encompassing statements were made and accepted as fact and we were given endless exercises asking us to show how situations could be handled. I never had the faintest idea what any of it was about, or why some things were supposedly toxic and others good. At the conclusion I remember thinking "the College of Education at ASU is totally fake. You could grab anyone off the street, give them 20 minutes to come up with a course in managing social interactions, and the quality and validity would be the same or better. To this day all I remember about the class is being bewildered every moment of the semester. I can't remember a single principle, idea, theory, nothing. There really was nothing there.
I'm a licensed teacher nine years into the career. Almost nothing from the college of education was useful, and in fact we're counter productive.
And 40yrs later... Nothing has changed.
+Kevin Kasper Or at least that is your clearly biased and emotionally-charged reaction. There are no first principles and no data to support your critique. There is really nothing.
@@Laguero And clearly your licensing didn't require any level of mastery in sentence structure, punctuation, or the basics of the apostrophe and the hyphen.
@@MH3GL And your data set for this derives from what cited studies?
The saddest part to me is that life is so wasted for so many looking for everything wrong and not having any time for gratitude to just be here. Damn shame really.
Indeed. Moral omniscience must be truly exhausting.
Nice. For most people in America life is so easy that they have to invent dragons to slay to acquire meaning in life. Farmers, truck drivers and other blue collar workers (people who create via their hands) are almost never woke.
It's the opposite of the cognizant behavioral therapy technique of looking for positive things in life, of finding things for which to be grateful. And that's a feature, not bug. The intent is to exacerbate anxiety and depression and dissatisfaction with everything in life. . . and thereby start a "Glorious Revolution" because people are so unhappy they feel they have nothing to lose.
Yeah, people don't realize how fast this will end. They're wasting some of the best years of their lives on victimhood dopamine.
Some folks just are not happy to have been brought into a world where they realize they will be a slave to the corporate masters that have the wealth to control how they live. We all have the freedom to starve and die. Those that horde wealth have the freedom to do as they wish. Probably why so many immigrants come to the U.S., in hopes to become rich someday. It's all a pathetic lie to us all, and it helps maintain the status que.
This is an excellent interview, it truly explains the origins of the pervasive new ideologies emanating from the Universities. The humanities departments in Universities have created non subjects which can be easily studied , but which have no basis in fact or scientific truth. As Peter states very correctly the subjects being taught are not disciplines , they are ideologies. It is very frightening and we should all be very concerned about what is happening in our Universities
"The purpose of education is to lead someone out of a state of ignorance." Well said, Peter. Great interview, btw. Really good questions 👍
This talk with Professor Boghassian was extremely insightful and well-articulated! I really admire the way he so deftly dismantles the core tenets of the woke ideology, reveals its implicit threats, and explains its system of self-perpetuation. I truly wish we had more educators with his level of intellectual integrity, straightforward honesty, and sincere dedication to the pursuit of knowledge. *Edit:* I love the way he describes education as something which should be leading the students out of the cave, rather than implanting a certain set of ideas into their heads... well said, very well said!
This is such an important interview. It is so concerning that those in academia, much of corporate culture and media will listen to this and deny every aspect of this. Very scary.
@Anya Wale get outta here bot
I wish this convo was 6 hours longer
Pharma has done the same thing with the healing arts. The curriculum in med schools, studies in medical journals, best practice requirements have all crept into clinical practice and are reinforced by the insurance industry by withholding revenue for anyone outside the system. Objective data such as poor health outcomes and exorbitant costs are summarily ignored by all but the awakened, and sadly there don't seem to be many of us.
The underlying problem is that schools, now, teach what to think rather than how to think. I dropped out of school for this reason
GOOD!
Peter has reiterated many times that he is a lefty and that he has never voted for a republican in his life. This man is a gem from a time when left and right disagreed but compromised. It’s gotten so insane with the rapid push into wokeville that otherwise long time allies are speaking out.
Yeah, I'm impressed with Peter on that level, too. I'm also a left leaning person - never voted Republican in 20 years of voting. I'm officially a democrat. And just like Peter says, I didn't see what was going on because it's too close. Now that I see it, it's very alarming. We need to speak up for freedom of speech and freedom of thought, and for the process of defeating bad ideas with good ideas, not by silencing things we don't agree with.
Lot of disaffected lefties wondering how to undo this antiscientific nonsense.
I think as lefties we need to speak up and disabuse people of this misconception that only the right is anti woke. I am pretty far left (socialist), and I can't stand these woke people. I think they are deranged.
And I'm a fish. Know who also was lifelong democrat until they weren't? Trump. Musk. Words are nothing if the actions that follow don't match. He recently did a conference in super conservative Hungary. I used to respect him but he's changed since the days when I would take his classes. By the way I lied, I'm not a fish. Anyone can say anything. If they have an agenda they're more inclined to.
@@RobkeeRobkee Fair point, but why should we think Peter is along the lines of Trump or Musk or what have you? Is there more to this than "he gave a conference in super conservative Hungary"? Do you disagree that it is possible to lean left but still oppose woke politics (along the lines of race and gender and so on)? Any thoughts on Andrew Doyle?
Thank you for having this interview and making it available. Too many noble causes have historically been hijacked by ideological opportunists who wind up distorting a virtuous objective into a force for the suppression of objective thinking. I'm 71 years old and very grateful to still be learning. I sometimes ask myself how we have gone from the very basic premise of "class struggles" between the oligarchy and the proletariat with a utopian objective to integrate the marginalized into a more egalitarian society to what we are witnessing today of group identity politics, that seeks to segregate and to implement a doctrine of division between equals to sustain another type of society, that in the end is more tyrannical than the one it seeks to replace.
I remember seeing Peter in an interview on KZhead a couple years ago. It was a discussion about woke ideology, i remember Peter's passion against this BS. It's like he's lived through some kind of woke hell and came out the other side. I wish him every blessing and bit of good luck to win this fight, we're all behind you.
@@vinnyrac never mentioned religion mate but cheers anyway
Likely, you mean the Grievance Studies Hoax papers - see interviews on it here, especially Peter Boghossian and James Lindsey.
This was a great discussion. When I started watching I thought there was no way I would stick through the entire 47 minutes but I did and am glad. My eyes are opened a bit wider on this subject. I learned a lot and thank you.
Villians don't see themselves as villains in their own stories.
True, which is why the characters they write in comics and movies are supposed to be heroes, but act more like villains.
Narcissists are incapable of taking responsibility for their own bad behaviour, full stop.
this is incredible and also very frightening!! this is the blueprint to what has happening to our culture right now
What a relief to hear such sense spoken and to get to the roots of the infiltration. Even here in Scotland it’s everywhere and I just hope more and more people find the courage to stand up for reality over ideology. Thank you for this will share it.
It's everywhere! I knew it had hit Scotland when I heard about the Edinburgh Rape Crisis Center CEO Mridul Wadhwa, who has a penis and who lied about that on the employment form, claiming to be a cis woman. Mridul also doesn't think survivors of rape should be allowed to request a female doctor to do our rape exam. 🤦🏾♀️🤬 (I don't have anything against trans people per se. I just believe survivors of rape should have the right to refuse to have a penis-wielding doctor, regardless of what gender the doctor identifies as, if that's what we request.)
Yes, I can imagine that there is no shortage over there of shrill strident Scots folk who are always convinced that they are right and on a Cruise Aid against their enemies. And then add alcohol to the mix: C U Jimmy! BOOOM! 😣 That old fashioned Caledonian Passion. I can see it now through the Celtic mist. Everyone in baseball caps and tracksuits going around attacking each other. So refreshing. Release the bad vibes. 😊 No offence Aisha. I like Scotland but some of the characters over there really live up to the stereotype.
5:29 I asked a coworker for research on an approach she was using as a therapist. She gave me two articles that were essentially manifestos about liberal child rearing. She gave me a blank stare when I said research articles have an "n", a control group, and a methods section.
It's scary what passes for "research" to the Social Justice disciples. I remember reading a seminal paper, frequently cited in Critical Race Theory Studies, called "Unpacking The Invisible Knapsack". It's not scientific at all. It's just a wealthy woman's ruminations on some of the benefits she attributes to Whiteness, even though some (like being able to buy a house in a neighborhood where she'd want to live) are clearly Green Privilege 💵.
38:38 PB's discussion of the word "education" was delivered with typical flair by Maggie Smith in the 1969 filmed version of Muriel Spark's _The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie_: “The word 'education' comes from the root e from ex, out, and duco, I lead. It means a leading out. To me education is a leading out of what is already there in the pupil's soul. To Miss Mackay it is a putting in of something that is not there, and that is not what I call education, I call it intrusion, from the Latin root prefix in meaning in and the stem trudo, I thrust.”
Excellent. Thanks for posting.
Needs more views. If only this video could spread as fast as the insane ideologies.
share it to your friends! ...they'll probably NOT watch it... sound familiar?!?
+Quixotic Ignotism You seem to be afflicted by an insane ideology.
Just an incredible interview. He is the type of professor any student would be lucky to have to prepare them to think for themselves.
Peter Boghossian is brilliant. Thanks for the great video
This was excellent. Thank you for putting this out there.
The problem with "identity" and how it is used in relation to biology and pronouns, is that most of these things are personality traits. If viewed through that lense, which it should, everything would fall into place. A man can have feminine traits, a woman can have masculine traits, and there's a multitude of dimensions and variations of this within the personality spectrum, but it's no need to change pronouns due to it. It's only traits.
What we need are more demonstrations on how to interact with the woke, to best blunt their attack, and effect the biggest positive change possible. It's not enough to describe the problem. We are very late in implementing solutions in our daily lives.
I'll have some videos like that coming out soon.
Call them Marxists because that is what they are. They HATE being called that because that is their true nature (to divide others and make people hate each other). You don't even need to get caught in the weeds of their illogical arguments. There is a collective memory in the USA that Marxism is incredibly evil and they WILL feel the insult deeply.
Check out Daryl Davis who goes through this. He is a black man who has convinced members of the KKK to leave. Many of the videos are similar but all I've seen offer at least 1 new idea about communication. I was actually put onto him by Peter.
just be blunt and to point tell them no! say the honest blunt truth a man is always a man a woman only a woman never the two shall change and in all of the world all animals all life theres always male and female the females all lay eggs or give a live birth not one mammal or animal not even fish of a male have can or ever will lay a egg or give birth its factually impossible. if they throw a tantrum like a child say its still no you are wrong and walk away, just stop cattering to these insane loonatics, the plato annalagy is perfect like shadows in a cave they think thats the only truth and if could would kill you. they tend to love trying to have you agree to dissagrea, example someone I know won't listen to how dr.s came out warning what the cdc was telling them to say about any death, and how real viroligists came forward saying actually what there claiming covid is only exosomes, the very same people telling us all to get a jab are the same loonatics that are pushing wokeism! they could be a few months younger then you yet think there older example say there born in the 7th month you the 5thof same year but they think 7 is less then 5!! the same loons that push the (as peter says worse then dogma) down everyones throats has seeped into video games, example 1, assasins creed vallhalla you would think about vikings right? wrong somehow they put a sliver of real viking truth mixed with a whole bunch of woke bull, anyone who studied vikings already knows that the men travelled across sea, women stayed home they kept the families safe during those times, in the game that does claim to be based from history I have to add so they then must hold to a strict code of conduct you would assume wrong when everyone knew how to reproduce no one slept with same sex the game forces other men in the game to hit on you and ask you back to bed like what the hell is this shit doing in a game? movies they seem to take old classics and twist and pervert them like the matrix, new one they ruined, one super hero movie they made captain america so buck rodgers into a women they litterally infested everywhere, sad but might be point of no return if no one stands up grows up acts like a adult and tells these loonatics no!
When they call you racist, ask them how exactly. Ask them to provide definitions and examples of white supremacy, white privilege, white fragility, systemic or institutional racism, or how slavery or Jim Crow racism have anything to do with the present. Ask them to explain the achievements of black Americans, in their millions. Ask them to list rights or opportunities specifically denied to black Americans. Ask them how they are oppressed and what is holding them back. Ask them to explain how lower academic and hiring standards based on skin color are not racist. Ask them to explain about non-white Asian privilege. Ask follow-up questions.
An interview that everyone should see at least once.
PSU's biggest loss. Thank you Travis! What a great conversation to hear as I re-read the Declaration of Independence.
GOOD on ya. The Founders WANTED US to reread it in Independence Day, in celebration.
During my Masters at the University of Amsterdam we had a course on Business Ethics where there was an assignment to choose a topic an discuss this using the common ethical streams. My counterpart chose BLM and I said that this movement contains a lot of elements of identity politics which makes them a bit neo-marxistic. My counterpart was the one who should react to my words.. well.. the lecturer lectured me for 20mins about hoe I need to feel guilty for every mistake human beings have ever made hahaha and this is a university lecturer.. I said, sir, with all respects, I will never buy this crap. In another discussion two students discusses the gender pay gap. Well after some talk we got the chance to intervene as a group.. I asked the lecturer well sir, what do you mean by equality? He said stuff that basically tend towards equality of outcome. I said, equality of opportunity is key for human success and we have made huge steps there, but equality of outcome is impossible horseshit. We have biology .. Average grade at the end was 7.9 and I got a flat 6. Hahahaha I got punished for my opinion. I let it go and now I regret that. Academia nowadays is a joke. Even in a business adminitration studies woke is the standard.
My respects. Tell your grandchildren about it...these are new dark ages we live in.
I had a feeling this woke crap they spread everywhere would infiltrate universities and influence exam results...these wokeists are annoying. Thanks for sharing your story and I'm sorry about what they did to your exam results.
@@aspiknf they are hardcore criminals. I really regret letting it go.. Their way of discussion .. you should agree with the big lines of the discussion point and then discuss the implementation ways to normalize their madness.
@@Adnann1234 I never went to school (thank God!) but a friend of mine did, and she had to write a paper in middle school (I think she was in 7th grade) about how teens can minimize their risks of getting sexually transmitted diseases. She was one of only two kids in the class who were Christian and didn't believe in sex before marriage, but the teacher didn't know they were Christians. One of them wrote a beautifully worded essay about why she's choosing to stay celibate, and she didn't disparage the teens who don't, she just described why this is her choice, and how it will also work to protect her from STDs. My friend wrote what she knew the teacher believed, NOT what she believed, and she titled her essay "Sexually Transmitted Disease: Anyone Can Get It". She got an A, and the other girl got a C-. But my friend regretted not standing up for what she believed ; and she kept her paper -- and asked the other girl if she could have a copy of hers -- to remind herself never again to submit to Woke ideology just for a grade. So I've read both papers, and the other girl's paper really is better, not only in terms of grammar, but in style and skill. So the teacher obviously gave her a bad grade because the teacher only wanted kids to parrot what SHE thought.
@@zxyatiywariii8 I regret not standing up for myself as well.. Teachers should teach kids theories that are backed scientifically. Social studies have destroyed academia. The qualitative way of conducting science is really toxic and just is a misrepresentation of reality. I actually do not regret getting an academic degree (MSc). It helped me lifting up my career significantly. In the Netherlands we experience the same issues as in the other countries in the so called west. We are dragging behind and other parts of the world are catching up because of this woke crap. I really am bothered with this. I have plans to become a dad, but how this is going to end up is no safe space for one's kids. A real safe pace that is based on scientific reality, not the safe space these damn hippies talk about.
Peter really shines here!
Very good video. This is the best summary of Wokism I've heard so far. The SAFETY MECHANISMS are the really scary things. Those mechanisms are completely new to most of us.
What is the original definition of woke dating back to the 90s?
When dealing with wokesters...don't apologize, never surrender, counter-attack....always. It is time to identify, isolate & insulate corrupt professors who wish to destroy civil society.
This is exactly right. I tell this to people all the time. Never, under any circumstances apologize to a Wokie. If you give an inch they will take a mile, and demand more. Always remind them that their ideology isn't welcome in civilized society.
This is my second time listening to this. It is alarming and has the clear, resounding ring of truth. Thank you Peter.
Brilliant definition of education.
This is the best concise explanation I have heard about this so far.
The best presentation on the subject is "Why colleges are becoming cults" by Lyell Asher himself. That video is on youtube and it is flat out no contest the best most thorough explanation of all the leftist cancer spreading from universities.
@@aftermath4096 Thanks, I'll check it out. . .
Peter is a superstar. Love how he is unapologetic in standing for sound epistomology. That's what we need more of to slay the woke dragon.
someone that understands language what a beautifull sight when the world seemed so dark, you have no idea how much just seeing atleast one sane person does right now.
+Eindhoven de Gekste Trump is unapologetic for his raging falsehoods and also shrieks about this imaginary "woke" dragon. Interesting.
Brilliant. JUST BRILLIANT !! (had to see it twice because Boghossian spoke out of my heart - felt soo good!!)
I went to a college that I thought was so liberal, but now I realize that I may have been in the last generation (so far) to get a critical reasoning education. Let's bring intellectual rigor back at university and leave the social work to the social work department.
You’re conflating “social work” with Indoctrination and Activism. Not the same.
@@Orson2u true, but then so is the Social Work dept/industry.
When you want to send a video to a couple of your relatives but you know it's no use
Only 20-30 years ago these people were in mental hospitals…..
True story. Those were the days lol.
A great breakdown of the topic. I’ve been a fan of Peter since reading A manual for creating atheists. Love you work, keep it up
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think you mean you'r not you!
@antlerr I think you mean you’re not you’r!
On frickin' point! Legend!
This channel is going to grow so quickly. Wait for it. 100k by Christmas, no problem. Brilliant work. Being able to make guests this comfortable, fully charged and ready to deliver their A-game is one of those secret skills viewers don't see or even know about as it's all behind the scenes prep stuff. Well I've put two and two together and am fully aware that you have exceptional natural talents and are an excellent filmmaker and interviewer: that's why you bring so much of value out of your guests/subjects. You make it look easy to get such great material out of people. I know it isn't. All your guests seem energised and excited to be talking to you and that shows that they have respect and a comfortable, confident frame of mind thanks to how they respond to your own intelligence and character. Thumbs up to you. Excited to watch this channel grow.
I personally went through this in two separate graduate programs. now I'm thousands of dollars in debt, unemployed, and with two masters worth little... silver lining, at least I have my sanity again, and a really good education, but that wasn't those institutions fault.
Excellent interview from a great thinker!
Thank you for sharing. We need more content like this 🙏
The one question I wish the interviewer had asked is…”what can be done?” What’s the antidote to this orthodoxy?
The answer is ignore it.
@@paulmcgreevy3011 problem is it keeps growing and spreading. I feel like people who have a brain need to speak up and shut this stuff down now. Otherwise the inmates will be running the asylum. Then we’ll have much bigger problems.
@@chrisn2125 the problem is the inmates already run the asylum because people don’t ignore the crap and have fallen into line with it because they’re afraid to be called names like ‘racist’ or ‘far right’ or ‘climate denier’.
@@paulmcgreevy3011 that would be like ignoring cancer.
@@paulmcgreevy3011 What a dumb answer.
Such a good interview, i had to see it twice. And i got more from it the second time
I think the reason that so many people accept all this is that they don't want to be thought of as a bad person. They now understand that to disagree with any of it means that you're now considered to be on the side of the bad people, and so it's easier to just remain quiet and accept it in order to avoid all the hassle .
When you understand a cult, this makes sense.
At 33:30, when he talks about plastic in the oceans and then drinks from a plastic straw is a pretty boss move.
Kudos to the interviewer. He seems to be clearly steeped in a woke belief set yet he asked questions as though he was actually interested in learning something and finding truth. That is rare today.
I'm far from Woke, but my friend, Matt, who also asked some questions is a Portland progressive.
I like how the interviewer asked questions -- not taking any side, but remaining neutral, and letting the guest speak. This is all too rare nowadays, but it's the best way to do an interview.
I am an older student of social work who was in first year in 2014 and started hearing things I thought were moronic, like all jails should be abolished bc they are oppressive to minorities. I had to do that take a step forward if you... whatever, exercise. I was told there is no need to consider budget when creating social programs. My dean, Dr. Webster, told me he wasn't sure I was cut out for it bc of my religious faith. My classmates called our class "Webster's minions" and wanted to wear identical shirts all the time. I haven't done that or been asked to since Jr. High. I facetiously called a couple of our classes "indoctrination class." It was all real. Now I have 2 masters degrees and can't believe it was all real and took root. I thought it was just my class and it was too stupid to be taken seriously. It's all too real and it was intentional.
That's a very good organization of the fundamentals. Thanks to everyone involved for putting this content out here
Thank you Peter!
Fantastic as always James.
Absolutely fascinating.
When your university exams turn into scientology reading sessions…
At least there are still some professors around like this
Such a wonderful interview!
Hey, cool series!! Good job guys.
I dont see talking with SJWs as a mean to try to change their ideas (that would be impossible)...I often engage with them online (with comments here on YT for example), but with the sole purpose of putting out there ANOTHER, DIFFERENT idea (mine) as a counterbalance to theirs...in the hope that any 3rd person that happen to pass by and read my words, together with those of the SJW can have some kind of "2 sides view" and decide for himself which is the most "acceptable" or logical or reasonable... You have to engage with them instead of thinking that that is just useless/hopeless...if you let them put their crazy stuff online, unchallenged, they have already won...
Garbage, just don’t go there in the first place.
@@paulmcgreevy3011 As i said...IMO if you dont go there, they have already won (because they certainly WILL go there, and will never back down) Anyway...as I said...not here to make anyone change their minds...
@@dimercamparini Exactly, that's what I do. I can't change a cultist's mind, but I can put forth a logical rebuttal; and that's useful for everyone else who will see it.
This was an incredibly good interview, thank you to all involved.
"This whole thing is bullshir." Perfect summarization.
I love Jonathan haidt and everything but Peter has a delivery mechanism that speaks to me.
YEAH. Haidt is a nanny pamby softie, and lacks the courage to follow his own thinking conclusions. Peter is different: he has what the Greeks call Thrasos - guts!
Brilliant!!!!!
Loved it!
I love the kudzu comparison. In the US that plague is self-inflicted. It was first introduced to the US by the Soil Erosion Service and Civilian Conservation Corps in the 1930s for the purpose of controlling soil erosion in the American Southeast. That erosion problem didn't come from dumb farmers... those farmers were following practices put forth by the then-experts and government reinforcement of those ideas which led to the 'dust bowl'. Getting government to fix a problem created by government... what could go wrong? With the woke I see a weakness of Liberalism. Liberalism holds dear the idea of diversity of thought. In pursuit of that diversity it tolerates illiberal ideas. Those with illiberal ideas act in illiberal ways but the Liberal doesn't call it out or push back for fear of breaking with diversity of thought. And in doing so Liberalism points the shotgun at its own throat and pulls the trigger. All the years that this stuff rolled around in the University and where was the push back? Why does it always take a disaster to get people motivated?
This is priceless. Keep up the good work.
I think that the issue of micro aggressions is often overblown. Yet I sympathize with a teacher who has seen their cumulative effect on some people in some circumstances, who would not be amenable to arguments or 'evidence' that micro aggressions are not a thing.
Keep up the fight Peter!
Wow! Great video.
At University in the usa in the early 90s.. every class book I had had a section titled "women in x" where x was the field of study. I found that exceedingly strange to devote more time to the people in it than the field of knowledge itself. Guess we now know what that seed flourished into. I remember the women's lib student, god they were so angry and bitter, they tried to turn my then gf against me too.
Wow, just wow
great discussion, Boghossian is so spot on
One more piece of the puzzle which started even before Wokeness (which I've heard from a long time Dean) is that professors always looked to promote people like themselves, not students who would oppose and challenge them. So untenured profs under the threat of "publish or perish," have learned to compliment their grooming "mentors" (often, even in dissertations)! In other words, a system that started quietly has proliferated and mushroomed into what today is Wokeversities... not unlike the priesthood in the Catholic Church. As a philosopher, however, it be great to hear Boghossian take on Peikoff's "The Cause of Hitler's Germany.," if only because the Aryan-Semitic Race Theory (ASRT) and Critical Race Theory (CRT) both come from bored, name seeking German schools and Peikoff unpacks the moral disorientation of Weimar Germany which is reminiscent of today's moral disorientation. It'd be also great to hear Beghossian's opinion about personal conduct with Tunisian boys.
First class.
I really watching your campus social experiments with students beliefs regard race equity. Very enlightening. You can feed, clothe. House and educate a person.... At no expense to them.... Somehow, they still find ways to call you bad and racist.
What is shocking, other than the fact these people are reverting to identity-based ideology, is how disconnected they are. When asked about empirical reality, they are off by at least a factor of two.
Must had fallen asleep listening to this. Had a dream 4 SJW gals had come in my home, talking to our sons and their young adult friends. When I heard the lies they were peddling, I tried to set them straight with the facts. Couldn't get a word in so I threw them out of my house, while going off on them like a box of rockets! Even woke up, madder than a wet hen.
Oh yes! On the occasions I've fallen asleep to a video, I often dream something related to the video is happening. And we can't get a word in, in our dream.
Nice! You’re dreams shows what a good mother you are.
@@Orson2u Thanks. Showed how annoyed I am with all this garbage happening today venting it out in dreams.
Amazing point of view
Good job hope to meet you one day
It continues to blow my mind how it used to be the right who wanted to tell me how to think, and who attacked me if I thought independently. Now it is more on the left. As an actual liberal, I fear that I have no political home.
Boghossian for president 👏
This is highly potent. This rings True.
We got ourselves into a clusterf**k of epic proportions.
This solo interview is genuinely more entertaining than his convo with Douglas Murray (and I think Murray is great - maybe he just stole the spotlight when the two were speaking). Looking forward to hearing more from Mr. B.
Excellent ❤
A damning view on universities.
An important mind doing important things
How do you think these people who believe in cultural appropriation distinguish it from cultural appreciation? How do they know mircoaggressions are not driven by other factors like for example hunger anger, Hungery mood before lunch?
Basically, Wokeness is about injecting uniformity of thought which is called, Diversity, as opposed to the idea that, ultimately, all liberal education is self-education.