I interviewed Douglas Murray in late 2020 on Woke ideology, its origins and what people can do to push back. This is the first part of the interview.
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I think it's very interesting that you mention that you turned away for Christianity 15:43 and yet, in your films, you seem to be seeking what is True. I don't think I'm assuming too much in saying that. In my experience, that is not they normal path of someone who has, in your words, lost his faith. I've enjoyed all of your film that I've seen and look forward to seeing more.
I think it's pretty crappy to promise a second part of an interview, just to get people to subscribe.......and then not have a second part to the interview.
@@todrichards1105 I'm sorry you couldn't find it, but it's clearly there and in the description in this video is a direct link. Why would I do that?
The link is right here: thewokereformation.locals.com/upost/966680/douglas-murray-interview-part-2
Love to Nora. And healing thoughts sent to your sore back.
Douglas has a great capacity to destroy bad ideas eloquently.
Would you be so good as to cite for me examples of the evidence Murray uses here to support his conclusion, and to "destroy bad ideas "? It's just that a logical argument requires evidence, but Murray seems to adduce no facts or data to substantiates his claims. There is little more here than vague, impressionistic assertions, most of which are either strawmen or ahistorical.
@@hughmac13 Simply put, no. After your attempt to alter and re-frame my comment in your own terms, no. If you want to learn about Douglas Murray just watch and listen to the vast number of interviews and content that is out there. This is the only answer I care to give you.
THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU SAI D. He is destroying ideas. Destroying? First, he should define "woke". Then you can say. Look he defined it and then destroyed it. No, it's gone. Douglas killed it. How clever!
@@hughmac13 Sure. Read his books.
I HOPE THERE IS NUCLEAR WAR... AND THEN NUCLEAR TERRORISM. PLEASE HELP ME DIE. YOU BORE ME.
I’m totally in love with this man’s mind and capacity for truth ❤
He talks real purdy (except for the slight lisp).
hahah - he's ghey...
i love it when hes pissed off he puts the right amount of anger into his words, backed by articulate precision... which is just code for he says what i want to hear
W0ke isn't about wanting to help anyone or a cause for good, it's nothing but a divisive weapon and the people behind it know full well. It has no credibility whatsoever to me, completely fake and I refuse to partake.
@@knightofbrokenglass9237 oh no! Now she can’t love his mind because obviously she was going to meet him and runaway together…
Woke is an umbrella term for those engrossed in social justice and think of themselves as saviours of the moral high ground, but remain woefully ignorant of the irrationality of their claim and the problems they create.
These kids need to see some videos of The Cultural Revolution in China and the students who regret their behaviour as adults.
It's roots are female. Wokeness is intersectionalism on steriods.
Superb
These days Woke is usually used by right-wingers like Douglas Murray who love to stoke the right-wing culture wars or morons who get taken in by the culture wars. Intellectual arguments don't contain phrases like woke mob, woke madness. For the record I am very much & woke lefty & proudly so. Douglas is intelligent but not half as right as he loves to think he is.
Use to call them witches, now U call them woke. It's the same ol' Inquisition/ Salem tactics designed to distract you from the real problems in your Life...just blame the wokeratti . You might even be able to set up a new committee on how to identify the really woke, from the partially woke, and possibly a way to sift out the fellow travellers. Maybe some soft degree in the social sciences could be created at a Florida university or something. There is always money to be made in a witch hunt.
Once again -- clear as a bell, incisive and correct. I wish many people would come to their senses and listen to what this man says. I fear many will not.
He doesn't get the coverage he deserves, but it's pretty clear why that is. I'm certainly glad I found him!
You've had 12 years of increasingly 'woke' hating Tory government (if you live in the UK, I don't), so things are as they are meant to be John lad.
I mentioned the name Douglas Murray in passing and was instantly trounced on for listening to spokesman for the 'far right'. Of course, this person has never read a word he's written or listened to him.
I really do. People have to wake up. Not woke up.
Douglas Murray is phenomenal. No further words seem necessary.
Douglas Murray is a hero - we need more of him and more people like him.
I love that he never uses himself being gay as part of the argument. Magnificent.
Yeah. There was an interview with Chis Williamsom, where Chris asked him is he had ever played his "gay card." Douglas smiled and answered in a joking tone, "Well, on other gay men, I suppose." Such a great guy.
@@Doutsoldome that was a great interview!
If you want a great chuckle, check out the Piers Morgan interview with some activist, who's name I forget, where the activist called him a "Cis white man" and implied that's why he (Douglas) doesn't understand gay things.. 😅
Well, I didn't know he is gay, and now that I know, it's, of course, still entirely irrelevant in the discussion.
The amazing Douglas Murray! Always such a pleasure to see him in interviews
Douglas Murray is the man, I literally listen to every single thing of his that hits KZhead
Coupled with his accent makes him more appealing. I find him somewhat attractive. Although he doesnt bat for my team 😂
Same
I wish Murray had said this more clearly - the madness comes in when huge numbers of otherwise rational people take these precepts to heart and stop acting rationally. The madness is especially real and dangerous in Corporate America.
They may be rational, but they're weak... that's the problem. Too afraid to go against what is shoveled at them even if they vehemently disagree with it
It's in corporations everywhere. If corporations don't fall in line with Woke by way of using diversity quotas, unconscious bias training aka brainwashing, performance improvement plans, they're viewed as archaic. Push back is slowly coming.
Read his book. He makes it clear.
There are more than exactly one reason why people fall under the tenets and dogma in a cult. Some don’t know if they believe or not...as some are just head-nodders out of fear.
@@grega1461 On the contrary, Critical Theory celebrates the irrational by denying provable facts (as in post-modernism) and science. It's basically a secular religion.
Douglas Murray = authenticity That’s why we love him.
Always a privilege to hear you speak Mr. Murray
Mr. Murray, I very much respect your views as laid forth here. Thank you for so beautifully articulating what I have been wrestling with and can’t find words for. I know it’s hard, but thank you for your great effort.
Imagine having this man as a dinner party guest?! From the moment I read the introductory quotes to THE MADNESS OF CROWDS, by GK Chesterton and N Minaj, I became smitten with him. I marvel at Douglas Murray’s ability to communicate. I dont always agree with what he has to say, but I always listen.
I know!! I wish I had his precision and depth of knowledge when it comes to an argument with those spruiking the woke narrative.
Intelligent and eloquent man. So impressed by his ‘brain-power’.
Good news today. A judge in America has refused to employ any more graduates from Yale as they are too woke to be lawyers.
Is that true?! That would be a very good thing. It's scary how many journalists are University grads now days...a superior breed of humans, in their opinion, who control NYT, WaPo, VICE, CNN etc. etc. etc. Reporters used to be part of the lower and middle classes. My kids are leaning into wokeism which scares me. Its infuriating to me to see some ignorant title like 'When did Glenn Greenwald decide to join the conservatives...or the same about Kim Iverson or Matt Taibbi and so on. People who have been fighting the good fight for decades as traditional liberals or moderates while CRT and wokeism were deciding where to get the next tat or the all important nose piercing (don't those centre nose rings that are so lovely get, uh, kind of nasty inside the nose? When I see some trendy young woke woman with a nose ring I want to ask her if it doesn't get encrusted with, uh, uh...ok that's enough lol
It's actually a group of judges, not just 1.
I love it!
Ye'll get yer Gilead yet lass.
You're doing heroic stuff. Respect is due, sir! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Him talking about how feminists think we’re on the brink of being in a Margaret Atwood book made me recall my senior year in high school (i lived in portland) I had to take a feminist literature class (the only other option was African American studies literature) for which we had to read the handmaid’s tale. I remember distinctly my professor saying to the class that we live in a society that is so close to becoming the book it was crazy… I hadn’t become un-woke at the time but even then I remember thinking, now this just isn’t adding up
Portland seems like a complete hellhole. Glad you escaped from the mind virus, and apologies for the cheeky plug, but you sound like you might like my channel kzhead.infovideos
Just out of curiosity, did anyone in class make the connection b/t a novel about women forced to cover their bodies, having no legal rights, not being able to leave the home w/o an escort, the death penalty for adultery, etc - and Islam?
Unbelievable! Such a waste of young peoples minds.
@@jasonthewatchmansson8873 i don’t remember tbh, it was 5 years ago. I can’t imagine they did, I remember we did watch chimamanda adichie’s we should all be feminists Ted talk, but of course pointing out that Islam suppresses women is racist so you can’t point that out lmao
@@CC-xs3jf tell me about it; I only started actually learning once I graduated
Every American should be required to listen to this.
I love the parting phrases about Robin DiAngelo: conceited enough to think of herself as superior to 99.9% of the human race, manipulative enough to allow everyone else to think likewise, and quite willing to profit from tithes and tributes offered people who she thinks of as her inferiors.
She's so clearly mentally ill she gets a pass on grounds of diminished responsibility.
Yes, 100%
@Adam Jacobs And what does healthcare have to do with the content of the interview?
@Adam Jacobs Open a dictionary and look up the term 'non sequitur'. Try posting your comments about healthcare on a thread that discusses healthcare. Or perhaps you are a Dadaist at heart and leaving non sequitur comments in random threads is your party trick.
@Adam Jacobs Custard. Have you noticed that custard nowadays doesn't taste like it used to when you were a kid? Douglas didn't say a single word about the taste of custard in the interview. Perhaps Douglas doesn't eat custard and is completely in the dark about it. But it is far more likely that there is a well orchestrated propaganda campaign funded by dark money sourced from food industry multinationals. If Douglas were to start talking about the taste of custard, we might all realise that the food industry has been selling us crap for years and ruining our health. Flower pots. I bought a new 30-litre plastic flower pot for my fig tree. Colour of terracotta to match the other pots that sit on my patio. I was disgusted to find that I actually had to cut the irrigation holes in the base where excess water can drain out. Flower pots always used to have the holes pre-cut when you bought them. Yet Douglas said absolutely nothing about this in his interview either. Perhaps Douglas isn't a fan of gardening. Maybe he lives in a flat and doesn't even have a garden. But it is much more likely that he is an accomplice to this outrageous scandal and knows full well that there is a well orchestrated propaganda campaign funded by dark money sourced from the plastics industry. If Douglas were to suddenly blurt out how flower pots no longer have holes in their bases, we would all see how the plastics industry is abusing its customers AND consuming unsustainable amounts of fossil fuels in the procsss.
Douglas always a pleasure to listen to you!
Deadly Doug never fails to get it spot on! In Style!
The sound of Douglas Murray’s voice and speech rivals that of Morgan Freeman for me. :)
I’m pretty sure that I loved Christopher Hitchens, because his death hit me as hard as losing someone in my own family. I’m pretty sure I love Douglas Murray.
Me as well 😥
he loves you too;
Hitchens , Murry. Et al are limited by their adherence to the philosophy of Scientific materialism. They also have a tendency to argue on the basis of out dated data.. eg they dismiss anything uttered by a contemporary Sage such as Adi Da Samraj ....as bollocks because such teachings utterly destroy their uninspected egoic and therefore limited world view.... leaving them to bang on about other equally limited people’s solutions to life’s problems in that old fashioned mansplanning way that they do. Of course their words amount to nothing more than attracting the attention of other self serving and uninlightened people.
This man is a gem.
Voice of reason and sanity....arise Sir Douglaz Murray.
Totally agree, my crayon notes have a Sir before is name, and I never thought I was in the dark until I heard that Gentleman speak.. Respect from the bottom of my soul for the calm voice of reason, and I strive everyday to follow the example he, and a very few others set.. Sorry for the letter, and much love to you and yours...
Such a treasure our Douglas.
I’m so grateful for these words of wisdom, navigating us all through the madness.
Appreciate this nicely articulated dose of common sense.
Douglass Murray is a great English man his words are never more needed than at this lost and confused time we find ourselves in and are so artfully delivered ❤
First they come for your words, then they burn your books, then they smash your windows and then they pin a yellow star on your sleeve.......
Douglas,great to hear you again.
Love me some Doug Murray. Black American here and I see this problem daily
And I love how you spelled it out in Ebonix - but please correct me if I'm mistaken.
White Scotsman here and I just hear an elitist and entitled proto fascist prick. Each to their own, eh pal.
What problem?
@@MrRailjunkie indeed. These people think in ideological abstracts only. Makes it hard to contend with in coherent terms sometimes.
I don't know how I stumbled across your channel. But I'm glad I did. That's a great interview. Always a fan of Douglas Murray.
Thank you, Douglas Murray!
Cool, calm and collected. A masculine guy bordering on spiritual. The best of English today.
Douglas Murray was so eloquent when describing why humans are so unusual. It was beautiful.
The meaning of life: do justice, love kindness, walk humbly
🤣
@@Madonnalitta1 why do you laugh
@@withlove6973 because they don’t understand!
@@robertholland7558 it breaks my heart that what you say is true. I pray they learn there is a better way. Thank you for your encouragement.
@@withlove6973 admitting that one is unclear and asking for further information is to difficult for the ignorant, so they just laugh instead. Yes it is sad.
Point taken. It's a good thing that I don't feel the need to listen these days. Douglas Murray 🍻 you've laid out the groundwork and the foundations are there. I speak for myself. Anyone else?
I have such a huge crush on Douglas Murray! He is so smart & dreamy
Thanks for doing this - both you and Douglas - because this is how to make a difference in today's world.
20 odd minutes in, sooo well put. Says it all. Thank you Douglas. Love you. Keep it up.
Bloody brilliant, love Douglas Murray
DM in top form. There was something almost cinematic about this interview. Well conducted by the interviewer.
Exceptionally well put Mr Murray. It I a pleasure to listen to you.
If you don't know what you want to do with yourself then start by cleaning your room. Seriously. Having a clean living space shifts your energy and vibration. Then clean up your paperwork, your health, your fitness, your relationships. Then clean up your local park or start a community garden or hone your skills and talents. Things will flow and inspiration will come.
Define “clean”
@@robertholland7558 Organised
@@MrConstantMalachi I am organised, to the point of chaos. Organised chaos. My kind of cleanliness.
@@robertholland7558 Does it work for you?
@@MrConstantMalachi extremely well! Not so much for those that seek to disorganise my chaos!
I've watched many, many of Douglas' interviews - but this offers many new and different ideas.
Good one 🙏 thank you. When he said about society needing to go beyond the ideas of sex It made me realize was a blessing it was to be introduced to Indian scriptures especially the Upanishads. The yogis push humanity to go beyond the mind and consciousness and have put down their experiences in detail. It's a road map of what humanity can achieve but at the end leaves it in our hands to choose the path (or not). The society was divided into 4 life stages, the first one being the student/learning age followed by the life of a householder and so on.... It is sad to see today's students brainwashed with rubbish, all stages mixed into one and left with no direction
More and more people need to become aware this man exists. We have so much to learn from him. He is truly a remarkable human being.💕
I love this meaningful and 'senseful' interview with the brilliant Douglas Murray - thank you.
“Ideas, like nature, abhor a vacuum.” I love how Douglas Murray can so eloquently sum up so much in just a few words. And Ayaan Hirsi Ali also spoke to this on how extremism has been gaining ground in Europe (by both the right and left). When voices in the middle are silenced, that silence will be replaced by those at the extreme ends.
Great comment.
It is a privilege to be a contemporary of this great thinker.
Easily pleased🆒
In an attempt to achieve equality and equity, they discriminate against those they perceive as the oppressors. So in effect, what they need to realise is that inequality will prevail. The victims will change not the inequality.
This gentleman makes ABSOLUTE sense.
100% Rockstar.
Insanely good, thx Douglas and interviewer. Lets keep it real people.
Amazing man. So sharp. So intense. Love it! ♥
Absolutely wonderful , as ever.
There is no god-shaped hole. Rather, there is gullibility, and a juvenile willingness to accept any answer over the simple "I don't know".
Douglas Murray is so clear. Thank you. There are so many important issues needing our attention that misguided wokeness is distracting us from. My wonderful father had me read Eric Hoffer’s “The True Believer” at age 17.
How wonderful and easy it is to be able to accurately sum up the reality of a situation. No need to hide behind layers of impenetrable flowery linguistics to disguise and obfuscate your lies and lack of sincerity. The truth is always easier and simpler, as exhibited by DM every single time.
Douglas is, by far, my most favorite speaker. His speech is impeccable. He knows his facts. He does not get emotional. If I was not a man…. I would probably be a female simp for him. He’s amazing.
He's gay:)
It's ironic that they call themselves woke but are really blinded by their self righteousness.
Brilliant ! ! Thank You Douglas !
I don't always agree with him however he is so spot on about this. Clever man
Douglas 👏
Douglas Murray is the only person alive today whom I would describe as brilliant. Combining a rapier wit with a great screen presence, he is unsurpassed in interviews, especially when allowed to speak at length without interruption, as here; witness his remarkable slow burn from 22:44 to 25:11. Having read his first book (published when he was a twenty-one-year-old undergraduate at Magdalen College, Oxford) and his most recent one, I am now eager to read all those in between.
I wish there was a transcript of it. Now I'll have to write it all out for myself. My only worry is the written word may lose some of the polemical power.
Amazing interview as always a true intellectual giant
His mentor , Sir Roger Scruton would be proud.
Wokeness came from the ability to sue. Race,sex,gender, all of these are sue-able grounds. Business and cooporations are sick of getting sued, thats why we hear about these matters so much in the media.
There are so few strong male figures in society who I can look up to. Measured, calm, informed, masculine and unyeilding. Douglas is one of the few. He could have a nice life without this burden, but he has taken it on, and will be remembered.
Douglas speaks words at the precise rate of my / our minds digestion of the thought - respect his intellect
Loved this convo ❤
Great! Keep up the good work! Douglas is fantastic, as usual :)
He is completely correct. I would just sum the "woke" as Nucking Futs! Peace!
I really like to listen to Douglas Murray. Is a pity he's not a believer in our Lord Jesus Christ. I almost ended my life, Jesus saved me. I believe in Our Lord with all my heart.
The war has been won, but the soldiers refuse to leave the battleground.
Hehe That smirk when he describes his st George in retirement analogy. He is really pleased with himself. On point! As always
Yes Douglass you’re the man
Yer hairy Geordie erse he is.
"All totalistic thought systems have a remarkable advantage over non-totalistic thought systems."
This Douglas Murray is brilliant. He's made a killing in reacting to and contending against the rants of big mouth Twitter teenagers.
Its happening in the UK and Europe as well as the US.
Superb interview 👍
I was seeing you laying down throughout the interview thinking "this guy has found his style"... Whatever helps you relax and best engage with your interviewee. And it was a great interview - I love Douglas Murray and you asked excellent questions. But hearing you have debilitating back pain really touched me because I use to have that too. I remember being a musician in a former life and showing up to band practice and playing my bass while laying flat on the floor. That back pain lasted years and was with me all day everyday. I'm so happy to say I am free from that now. I wish you the best in your endeavours with your film making and journalism. But even more so, I wish you a life free from pain. All the best from a new subscriber. Dan
Your books are on their way to me Douglas.
Incredible orator!
Haha, orator, and he's gay. Cheers for the laugh!
@@brettmeikle Always wished I could be a cunning linguist.
That music at the beginning frightens the bloody life out of me!
Douglas!!
The Woke want to fight for justice but they show up late to the battle like Commedus in Gladiator.
Thank god Murray is not a cult leader. I’d be all in.
Thanks for this great vid.
It's always good to hear Douglass' thoughts on what's happening these days. I haven't seen him as much I prefer to lately. I agree with much of what he says here, but I would say that some believers (perhaps a minority of us) actually acknowledge that there aren't always answers to our deepest, most troubling questions. Just read and reflect on Job and Ecclesiastes for starters. Terrible things happen that are ultimately beyond our ability to understand why they happen.
Really enjoyed this video. It's refreshing that there are more content creators that want to promote discussion not division. Keep it up bro. 👊🏾
He uses woke as Pejorative, That's Right-wing culture war division right there.
@@MrRailjunkie I'm not ashamed to not know stuff. When you say right wing, what do you mean?
@@ReeceDee People who don't believe in progressive politics for the better. Conservatives, Republicans, billionaires, probably most high-end millionaires, big corporations & poor people who've been brainwashed into tugging their forelocks & doffing their caps for toffs, so called journalists who are just propagandists, commentators like Douglas Murray, Lobby groups who have infiltrated The U.K government on behalf of rich people.
@@ReeceDee He has no basis for the claim. I'm not right wing.
Thank you for posting this great video!
I thought this was beautiful & true. And reasonable, gives me hope. Does he always look so wound up? my heart goes out
Wow. Douglas has always had a glass sharp mind, but there is an energised, gloves-off precision here that is at once inspiring and concerning. I hope he is OK - don’t don the kamikaze suit yet, Douglas, all is not lost!
20:19 I like Douglas's point regarding certainty. To me, that is the main issue. Not so much religion, but dogma. Religion without dogma is fairly harmless. But take anything seemingly harmless and even good and add dogma to it, and it becomes incredibly harmful. That being said, the other side of the coin (nihilism) is also quite dangerous
I much appreciate this lucid explanation of what "woke" really means. Woke always comes down to the oppressed vs. the oppressors. Who each of these represent is up to the particular "woke" ever-changing population. The woke should issue a scorecard of "wokeness" and apply it to the major woke spokespersons who travel the world in their private jets to decry global climate change.
Meaning is not sought, or at least never found. Meaning is always made.