Two World Wars: Finnish C96 "Ukko-Mauser"

2024 ж. 26 Нау.
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A decent number of C96 Mauser pistols were present in Finland's civil war, many of them coming into the country with the Finnish Jaegers, and others from a variety of sources, commercial and Russian. They were used by both the Reds and the Whites, and in both 9x19mm and 7.63x25mm. After the end of the civil war, when the military was standardizing, the C96s were handed over to the Civil Guard, where they generally remained until recalled to Army inventories in 1939. They once again saw service in the Winter War and Continuation War, and went into military stores afterwards until eventually being surplussed as obsolete.
One of the interesting aspects of Finnish C96s is that many of them come from the so-called "Scandinavian Contract" batch (for which no contract has actually turned up). These appear to be guns made in 7.63mm that were numbered as part of the early production in the Prussian "Red 9" series, probably for delivery to specific German units or partner forces during World War One.
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  • Why can't a gun company make repros of these guns? Seriously, we have enough semi auto Thompson clones and overpriced MP5 clones. Make us some damn C96 clones!

    @randomappalachian4635@randomappalachian4635Ай бұрын
    • It doesn't even need to be mechanically the same! Just give us a look-alike!

      @doctorshloopenstein1269@doctorshloopenstein1269Ай бұрын
    • Why? How many you know who're willing to pay around 10k for an unreliable relic?

      @Totemparadox@TotemparadoxАй бұрын
    • Because it'd be ridiculously expensive.

      @Tunkkis@TunkkisАй бұрын
    • ​@@TotemparadoxIt would only be "unreliable" if it was poorly made. I had a C96 years ago that shot accurately and very reliably. A repro that a manufacturer actually wanted to sell and make a profit from would also have to be reliable or it wouldn't last long on the market.

      @moehoward01@moehoward01Ай бұрын
    • @@Tunkkis Yup. They'd be expensive. But there'd be a market. Just ask Lugerman.

      @moehoward01@moehoward01Ай бұрын
  • My grandfather (rest in peace

    @jesxxenexy2833@jesxxenexy2833Ай бұрын
    • Cool and skilled grandpa! 🪚

      @LD-Orbs@LD-OrbsАй бұрын
    • Sweet...my uncle made a wooden cucumber for my sister...kinda weird but he got skills.

      @Enolagay1945@Enolagay1945Ай бұрын
    • That my friend: Is love, And definitely male family bonding.

      @knutdergroe9757@knutdergroe9757Ай бұрын
    • My Papa made a wooden c96 for me when I was a kid too! Mine was a rubber band gun tho. It paired Nicely with my wood and steel (factory made) 1903 Springfield. ...they certainly don't make toys like they use to.

      @At_the_Bottom@At_the_BottomАй бұрын
    • @@Enolagay1945🫢oh my..

      @luxintelligentia4632@luxintelligentia4632Ай бұрын
  • When I was in Finland back around 1980 I met a young man who, when we started casually talking about guns, he brings out a C96. I was surprised enough by that, but then he pulls out the wooden stock as well and attaches it to the pistol. I was so amazed I completely forgot to ask what caliber ammo it used. At that point in my life I had never seen a C96 except in pictures. I didn't ask where or how he got it. I assumed it was a family heirloom passed down by a family member or relative who had served during WW2.

    @dongilleo9743@dongilleo9743Ай бұрын
    • It's pretty common. My grandfather had an Ukko-Mauseri and so did my godfather. My granddad never explained how we came to own his, but we have our theories. After the war, he was briefly held in custody on suspicion of illegally caching weapons in the event of a Soviet occupation. It must be true, because he kept a box of hot 9mm SMG ammunition -- too hot to handle for the C96 -- till the day he died, suggesting there's still a private cache somewhere out there with a Suomi SMG in it.

      @peabase@peabaseАй бұрын
    • you probably met my dads friend XD He owned PERFECT C96

      @Hnkka@HnkkaАй бұрын
    • @@peabase You better find it before the fobba does. That's a priceless heirloom

      @MrMango331@MrMango331Ай бұрын
    • @@MrMango331 No it isn't. Technically, it's government property.

      @peabase@peabaseАй бұрын
    • @@peabase Exactly. Before they come and steal part of HIS-tory, he should recover the artifact.

      @MrMango331@MrMango331Ай бұрын
  • So early, Simo hasn't pulled his boots on yet.

    @thudthorax@thudthoraxАй бұрын
    • Haha Simo Häyhä 😂😂😂

      @brandoninhofer6592@brandoninhofer6592Ай бұрын
  • That was excellent short summary of Jäger Movement and Finnish Civil War. Too many channels gloss over or fumble Finland's Duel of Fates completely.

    @Favk21@Favk21Ай бұрын
  • The writing in below the name "Vomberg" most probable is in the old German handwriting and means "Gefr." - abbreviation for Gefreiter (private)

    @christophkluxen5559@christophkluxen5559Ай бұрын
    • agree

      @tobskerk7574@tobskerk7574Ай бұрын
    • looks more like Johr to me, you happend to know if thats german name?

      @flyfin108@flyfin108Ай бұрын
    • @@flyfin108 Johr ist not a german name or word. The Name Johannes could be abbreviated Joh. but that is not what i see. "Gefr" being short for Gefreiter in old german handwritig is what I see as well

      @tobskerk7574@tobskerk7574Ай бұрын
    • @@tobskerk7574 thank you

      @flyfin108@flyfin108Ай бұрын
    • @@timewave02012 thank you, found german cursive from wiki, it has couple differencies

      @flyfin108@flyfin108Ай бұрын
  • My great-grandfather who was a captain during Winter War and Continuation War, had C96 with wooden stock + Lahti L-35 and Luger P08 pistols all the way to the 1970s until the government officials started to collect old service sidearms away from the veterans.

    @theweppe27@theweppe27Ай бұрын
    • And he complied? Guess the Germans really did win the war after all...

      @M8Military@M8MilitaryАй бұрын
    • Should have not handed them in. Never trust your government.

      @causewaykayak@causewaykayakАй бұрын
    • Finnish independence was requested and agreed to by Lenin's soviets very early after the overthrow of the monarchy. It was Stalin who tried to renege on this settlement.

      @causewaykayak@causewaykayakАй бұрын
    • @@causewaykayak Paleoconservative weirdo american villagers who think it's 1770 lol. If there was no Finnish or German state, there would be no Finland.

      @DOMINIK99013@DOMINIK99013Ай бұрын
    • And now they are scrapped and made into metal🤬

      @spuqe69@spuqe69Ай бұрын
  • Thats actually a really nice looking C96, i bet whoever gets it is gonna have a fun shooter on their hands (not to mention the cool history).

    @nebiyuesayas5600@nebiyuesayas5600Ай бұрын
    • Based off the price I don't think a lot of these expensive guns will ever be shot again... I worry about that sometimes

      @jidk6565@jidk6565Ай бұрын
    • ​@jidk6565 IMO unless the gun is either super mint, unsafe to shoot, or that historically important, there's no reason not to shoot them. This C96, for example, could absolutely be a shooter, seeing as it's basically just a regular C96 with the SA mark (uncommon, but not ultra rare).

      @nebiyuesayas5600@nebiyuesayas5600Ай бұрын
    • ​​@@jidk6565 It's sad that in Finland we still have these but our gun laws are so harsh that some of this kind of piece of history is put on smelter because there is no buyers😱

      @Sevensixtytwo@SevensixtytwoАй бұрын
    • It`s de-milled by the thoughtful addition of a giant hole drilled through the bottom of the chamber. When held upside down it can be seen in the video.

      @jeanbaptistevallee4500@jeanbaptistevallee4500Ай бұрын
    • @@jeanbaptistevallee4500 Well fuck, that's sad. At the least, it's a beautiful display piece

      @nebiyuesayas5600@nebiyuesayas5600Ай бұрын
  • "Ukko" means something like "old man" or maybe "big man". The pocket Mauser pistols m/1914 (?) in 7.65 Br was "Akka-Mauser" and in 6.35 Br was "neiti-Mauser". Just like the Nambus in USA, the Finns had Papa-Mauser, Mama-Mauser and Missy-Mauser...

    @ristoalanko9281@ristoalanko9281Ай бұрын
    • Isn't ukko the lighting god?

      @chadjacket@chadjacketАй бұрын
    • @@chadjacket : It's both.

      @ChristianConrad@ChristianConradАй бұрын
    • @@chadjacket In this context it doesn't refer to the old god at all. But yes, Ukko was an old finnish god for some finns.

      @Grummar@GrummarАй бұрын
    • @@chadjacket Ukko literally means "old man" and it has been interpreted as to have been bypass to refer to the lightning god, as that deity's real name was seen as taboo. Euphemistic names being used for deities, spirits and animals was common in ancient Finnish beliefs, like how the word for "bear", "karhu", comes from "karhea" meaning "rough" relating to its fur.

      @jokemon9547@jokemon9547Ай бұрын
    • ​@@jokemon9547Also, bear therefore have many names in Finnish: Karhu, Otso, Kouvo, nalle, mesikämmen.

      @Tapio86@Tapio86Ай бұрын
  • A lot of C96 pistols actually also ended up in Lapland or stashed away during civil war by people living in rural areas. It was seen as popular hunting weapon mostly by poachers, as it could be hidden away in backpack and made into a little carbine. For a goodwhile poachers using the C96 were a bit of a nuisance to official cracking down on poachers who hunted other people's Reindeer in Lapland, the 9mm casings found at crime sites being the clue that "Red 9's" were used.

    @joonahautala8196@joonahautala8196Ай бұрын
    • Weapons caching occurred after the Continuation War, not "during civil war [sic]". Even on the best of days, the C96 makes a poor poacher's weapon, stock or no stock. You'll never get close enough to wild game, especially in Lapland, where the shooting distances are longer because of the sparse forestation. And "hunting" reindeer, a domesticated animal in Lapland, would've been a dangerous undertaking. Their angry Lapp owners would've hunted the poacher down and turned him into carrion.

      @peabase@peabaseАй бұрын
    • My friend once found one of these caches but there was only m40 helmet, ammo and bayonets. We dont know where the gun has gone if there even was one hid away

      @Hnkka@HnkkaАй бұрын
  • The parallels between the Independence, Civil War and post WWII histories in Finland and Ireland are uncanny.

    @bernardlyons2422@bernardlyons2422Ай бұрын
    • Indeed, also both had a great famine in the mid-1800s (Ireland 1845-1852, Finland 1866-1868), both are bilingual nations, and both use the Euro even though our neighbours do not.

      @64ankka@64ankkaАй бұрын
    • @@64ankka Thank you, I didn’t know you had a famine too. We don’t have a word for “sisu”, maybe that would be useful :)

      @bernardlyons2422@bernardlyons2422Ай бұрын
  • I love that gun jesus likes finnish guns and history so much, and as i finn i always appreciate people having interest in finnish history

    @timixl00@timixl00Ай бұрын
  • I see Finnish, I click. I'm a simple man.

    @Finnish_Infantryman@Finnish_InfantrymanАй бұрын
    • I hear that a lot about Finns. 😊

      @BerndFelsche@BerndFelscheАй бұрын
    • 😅

      @mhh7544@mhh7544Ай бұрын
    • Kulttuurimiähiä selvästi.

      @katathoombz@katathoombzАй бұрын
  • Again, an accurate round-about-way of a larger piece of history perfectly worded to get to the point. Thank you, Ian

    @tomikarrinaho9609@tomikarrinaho9609Ай бұрын
  • Fricking early gang reporting for duty

    @DevinMoorhead@DevinMoorheadАй бұрын
    • 🫡 Reporting for duty!

      @lopsidedpolygon@lopsidedpolygonАй бұрын
    • Shithead actual standing by

      @DeltaSierra0605@DeltaSierra0605Ай бұрын
    • Yerrrr

      @daneuking3262@daneuking3262Ай бұрын
    • Is 21 minutes still early?

      @owenbrandon8370@owenbrandon8370Ай бұрын
    • Because of the way timezones work Ian generally uploads at lunchtime or teatime in the UK, which is a neat coincidence and probably explains why there are so many commenters from this side of the Atlantic.

      @AshleyPomeroy@AshleyPomeroyАй бұрын
  • Your are really well versed in Finnish history. Hat off. The C96 and the FN are the only handguns I've fired, since I'm a Finn.

    @haraldhannelius@haraldhanneliusАй бұрын
  • Many years ago, some outfit on Shotgun News got a bunch of BOLO Mausers from China. They were pretty much parts guns and they sold them 3 for 100 bucks. So I ordered 3 and managed to get one working, all be it junk, gun and another pretty much all there but with broken parts. They all looked like they came out of a rice patty, horrid pitting but the best of the lot I polished up an blued on my next hot bluing day, the rest were sand blasted and blued as well, in for a penny in for a buck. I got over $300 out of the lot at a gun show so made a nice profit on the deal and they were great fun to sort of restore. Never did get any grips for them, they were all missing grips when I got them. Ah for the good old days, I miss my FFL.

    @JerryEricsson@JerryEricssonАй бұрын
    • I sure miss those good old days of Shotgun News. having all sorts of good surplus for sale cheap. I bought my share for the day but now wish I would have spent every dime I could muster ,because now they are gone and anyone selling theirs is enjoying a Huge profit.

      @davidkohler7454@davidkohler7454Ай бұрын
  • My uncle has one in 9mm. The wooden holster and everything!

    @Paskanakki-Jack@Paskanakki-JackАй бұрын
    • Reported to finnish authorities

      @Hnkka@HnkkaАй бұрын
  • And another great information session!

    @1slippery2@1slippery2Ай бұрын
  • As a Finn your knownlege of Finnish history is truly impressive. I fear most Finns don’t know the story of Finnish struggle of independense to this detail.

    @KuteJR@KuteJRАй бұрын
  • That was a pretty fascinating history for the C96 especially for those that were in Finnish service. I'm glad you're also a fan of Finnish firearms.

    @user-kr7yh8vw9m@user-kr7yh8vw9mАй бұрын
  • "All went back into inventory". Not quite, not quite ;) .. and that is a really interesting story. You might want to look into the "weapons cache case", or "asekätkentä" in finnish. Loads of weapons were illegally hidden all over the country in case of a later russian invasion. Those caches are still found to this day. Many went to prison for it in the 40s and/or moved to the US. That is why some finnish ex. soldiers ended up in the US, mainly in the Special Forces, teaching SF everything they knew about arctic warfare , guerrilla tactics etc. They were called "Marttinen´s men" / "Marttisen miehet" after col. Alpo Marttinen who basically organized the finnish officers in the US. And when on that subject.. look up the "soldier of three armies" Larry Thorne / Lauri Törni. His life sounds like a Hollywood movie. Finnish army -> German SS -> US Special Forces -> disappeared in Vietnam.

    @sgthl@sgthlАй бұрын
    • Not nearly all have been found. 😊

      @NALE12@NALE12Ай бұрын
    • Incidentally, Törni organised his own weapons cache, part of which is now on display at the Military Museum in Helsinki. One exhibited item is the late president's, Mauno Koivisto's, personal weapon, an 'Emma' LMG.

      @peabase@peabaseАй бұрын
    • No where close to all have been found, there is caches in the forests, houses, pits. some are inside trees@@NALE12

      @Hnkka@HnkkaАй бұрын
  • As usual it's 3 times as interesting as I expected.

    @Jason-fm4my@Jason-fm4myАй бұрын
  • Fun Fact: The Finnish soldiers were trained at the german army barracks at Munster/ Lower Saxony. Today the "Panzermuseum", the german tank museum is located there (although not in the same barracks).

    @FrenchTaunter12@FrenchTaunter12Ай бұрын
    • Not exactly. The Jägers were trained in Hohenlockstedt in Schleswig-Holstein, but a small group did spent 6 months in Munster. Much of (Finnish) Jäger literature doesn't even mention Munster and I never heard about it in school, which is why the stone at Panzermuseum suprises many Finns.

      @Unknown1355@Unknown1355Ай бұрын
  • What a nice coincidence that you just happened to have a Luger in your lap as well.

    @cabbelos@cabbelosАй бұрын
    • I like to think his daily carries are all like that. Tues day is a Bergman pistol and Wednesday is a c96.

      @nicholasmosley2851@nicholasmosley2851Ай бұрын
    • Jesus could turn water into wine. Gun Jesus can turn thin air into the appropriate comparison piece.

      @andersjjensen@andersjjensenАй бұрын
    • That's what she said?

      @arkadiya9058@arkadiya9058Ай бұрын
  • Gotta love that rear sight having range up to a 1000 meters. Thanks Ian for the great video!

    @dunnokki@dunnokkiАй бұрын
  • Historical correction: Finland hasn't gone back and forth under Swedish and Russian rule a couple of times. We, i.e. Finland was a part of Sweden for about 600 years until Sweden (and Finland was a part of Sweden up until then) lost a war against Russia in 1809. From that 'til 1917 Finland was a semi autonomous part of Russia. In the late 1800s and early 1900s Russians started putting pressure on Finland, trying to Russificate Finland and right before our Finnish Civil War, we/Finland became independent, 6th of December 1917. So Finland was part of Sweden, or under Swedish rule once and for quite some time, about 600 years, then about 108 years under Russian rule and then independent.

    @villekaikkonen5218@villekaikkonen5218Ай бұрын
  • The text in the holster beside the name Vomberg could be 'Gefr', short for Gefreiter, a German military rank similar to private: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gefreiter

    @bossel@bosselАй бұрын
    • I think so too

      @JGCR59@JGCR59Ай бұрын
  • Yay broom handle video.

    @Wesley-1776@Wesley-1776Ай бұрын
  • Even though Finland has always been a military Lilliputian, it amazes me, how significant of a thumb print we've had on the international weapons trade.

    @Afrohare@AfrohareАй бұрын
    • Not huge until relatively recently perhaps. But the weirder thing is that we are not these days the military "lilliputian" of Europe, despite being a small country as always. There are only a few countries in Europe with bigger militaries than ours nevertheless.

      @herptek@herptekАй бұрын
    • Not really. Just because a few guns end up in the US doesn't mean we were significant in any way

      @jussi3378@jussi3378Ай бұрын
    • @@jussi3378 The irony is that we are much more significant militarily these days than ever before, especially when compared to other European countries. The military industry seems to do quite well as well, which is not something Finland is known for.

      @herptek@herptekАй бұрын
    • @@herptek maybe, but we are still a small nation.

      @jussi3378@jussi3378Ай бұрын
    • @@jussi3378 Doesn't matter at all if we can punch above our weight class, which we should always aspire to anyway. The best quality that Finland has is independence from foreign countries, which is something that makes national sovereignty actually meaningful or even possible if it is ever contested by force. Allies are great addition, but their interests are nevertheless not always identical with ours. We must always be prepared to take care of our own lot with means in our political control, at bare minimum, and then secondly also help our allies defend themselves if they ever need it.

      @herptek@herptekАй бұрын
  • It's so interesting. I was just doing research for my second novel, and here you are talking about the same folks. Wonderful timing.

    @TheTimeshadows@TheTimeshadowsАй бұрын
  • What a cool story! I’m usually primarily here for the guns, but I’d never heard this bit of history before

    @Starless85@Starless85Ай бұрын
  • Apropos of nothing, Ukko was Sláine's sidekick in the old 2000AD strip. He was named after... well, Ukko. "He did not think it too many."

    @AshleyPomeroy@AshleyPomeroyАй бұрын
    • Named after the Finnish storm-god/supreme god Ukko

      @teemu86@teemu86Ай бұрын
    • @@teemu86 And Ukko is just the "every-day name" of him, the one you use when you don't want him to actually notice you mentioning him. He's real name is Perkele.

      @DjKorppi@DjKorppiАй бұрын
    • @@DjKorppi Well, actually not. Perkele is a Finnish adaptation of the Baltic (Latvian/Lithuanian) god Perkunas and has since Catholic times (before 1593) been one of several Finnish names for the Devil. Ukko, on the other hand, is already in the pre-Christian pantheon found in the Kalevala epic. The word means "old man" but it can also figuratively be used to indicate something large, so one could surmise that the epithet "Ukko-Mauser" was meant to distinguish the C96 from the Model 1910 6.35mm Mauser pocket pistol or "Pikku-Mauser" ("Little Mauser"). My grandfather, who was with the White Guard during the Civil War, had one of the latter.

      @jarmokankaanpaa6528@jarmokankaanpaa6528Ай бұрын
    • I remember reading that. Ukko was described as "perverted but loyal".

      @jamesharmer9293@jamesharmer9293Ай бұрын
  • These history/hardware/weapons videos are just superb. Learn so much about history, as well as the provenance of the weapon in focus. Only bettered by your field trips - Alligator Creek etc!

    @richardcunningham5540@richardcunningham5540Ай бұрын
  • For some reason lots if C96s ended up in Lapland. Reindeer herders used to carry them even as late as 1980s. They mainly used them to poach and defend the reindeer from predators. Notorious reindeer herder and thief Mosku favoured the C96, though he probably shot more men than wildlife...

    @mikkoleinonen9846@mikkoleinonen9846Ай бұрын
  • Ian, love your videos, especially THIS one. The "cool" factor on a C96 can't be beat!

    @geckoproductions4128@geckoproductions4128Ай бұрын
  • When I was a kid, one of my mates had a Red 9 replica. Most fun I've ever had with a toy pistol. You just gotta love the C96. Interesting vid thanks mate 👍

    @dropnoelfield295@dropnoelfield295Ай бұрын
  • "Hokey Religions And Ancient Weapons Are No Match For A Good Blaster At Your Side, Kid." - Han Solo

    @ramenbear@ramenbearАй бұрын
    • Based Solo

      @nomad_boreal@nomad_borealАй бұрын
  • I love the C96, so I'm always happy to get another video on it!

    @TheHylianBatman@TheHylianBatman29 күн бұрын
  • The leather of that holster seems still perfectly supple!

    @GianmarioScotti@GianmarioScottiАй бұрын
  • There is a book about pistols in finnish service. It have couple of hundreds of pages and if I remember right army had dozens of different weapons and catridges from .22 lr to .45 ACP and everything between. If there was a calibre of type of gun we had it and we had given it to troops.😁😁😁

    @jukkakopol7355@jukkakopol7355Ай бұрын
    • Small and (relatively) poor countries make do.

      @Tunkkis@TunkkisАй бұрын
    • Left behind by Tsarist military, captured in Civil War from Red Guard weapons, vintage WW1 pistols bought by the weight, small batches bought in the 20' and 30's, captured from Soviets during the 5 years of war, left behind by Germans... And can't get rid of anything as there are never enough of pistols. They start to accumulate over time!

      @alaric_@alaric_Ай бұрын
  • Hi, in early 80’s one of my relatives passed away and he had one ”Ukko Mauser” in hes possession. I got it while I was serving in army. The gun was bought in ”White Army” sportshop in Vyborg (Viipuri , now ovcupied in ruski side). It was 9.0 mm barabellum model , matching numbers, no SA stamp and it had wooden holster you could use like shoulder kind arm so you can shoot more far stable. All the leather straps and ammunition combs. Sold it late 90’s but still have that first buying permitt from 1921 from Vyborg.

    @rapatti007@rapatti007Ай бұрын
  • Cool video Ian. Never heard this story. Greetings from Finland.❤

    @mikaelpihlajaniemi8754@mikaelpihlajaniemi8754Ай бұрын
  • Thank you for the historical context of the arms in service. There is still a museum in Hohenlockstedt, Germany for the Finnisch Jägers

    @user-gc9ld1gn4l@user-gc9ld1gn4lАй бұрын
  • During my military service Major of our Company carried a Mauser in one of these leather holsters.

    @ODeHerranen@ODeHerranenАй бұрын
  • Love the Finnish content

    @dieselXJ@dieselXJАй бұрын
  • Those are some serious machining marks on the frame

    @protoculture289@protoculture289Ай бұрын
    • The stamp with the framed letters SA does not refer to the German acronym for "Sturm-Abteilung", but in this context to Suomen Armeija (the Finnish Army).

      @hannumononen6345@hannumononen6345Ай бұрын
  • Ian, thanks for this very interesting video. The C96 may not be the best, or practical handgun, but It's always been a favorite of mine since the first time I laid my eyes on one, and even more so since I own one.

    @rb67mustang@rb67mustangАй бұрын
  • Thanks man! Very interesting 👍🏻

    @TommiSaarinenFIN@TommiSaarinenFINАй бұрын
  • Cool pistols. I've always found Finnish gun history fascinating.

    @lancerevell5979@lancerevell5979Ай бұрын
  • I have one like that, though from the mentioned commercial range (371xxx, so 1917 production) and also in 7.63. It did come with the shoulder-stock holster (not matching numbers, but the gun itself is) with the original leather strap. There is some pitting on the outside around the extractor, but the barrel rifling is in decent shape with no corrosion, so overall really nice condition for a more than a 100-year old piece that was actually used. Interestingly, it stayed in Finland until a couple years ago (so around a century probably), until it came to Poland where I got it.

    @Adameq07@Adameq07Ай бұрын
  • Was really hoping this was another "getenteredtowin" gun. Have always wanted a C96 or a clone.

    @dwastart@dwastartАй бұрын
    • I have the airgun version and ordering the stock. And it's also full auto capabile.

      @jessemiles1441@jessemiles1441Ай бұрын
    • They’re awesome pistols. Wish I still had mine.

      @dennisyoung4631@dennisyoung4631Ай бұрын
  • German guy here: The lower marking is actually "Gefr" - referring to the German Army rank - Gefreiter = Corporal. Like a certain Austrian postcard painter...😉 This pistol therefore belonged to Gefreiter Vomberg.

    @stanislavczebinski994@stanislavczebinski994Ай бұрын
  • I love early self loading pistols and the C-96 pattern guns are the queens, even the spanish and chinese ones are amazing iconic bullet machines!

    @me.ne.frego.@me.ne.frego.Ай бұрын
  • These episodes where the gun essentially serves as a centrepiece for an interesting history lesson are always fun :)

    @BleedingUranium@BleedingUraniumАй бұрын
  • A few C96s came to Ireland in the early part of the 20th century along with artillery Luger's colloquially known as the "Peter the painter" sourced from Germany along with Mauser rifles used to fight the British Army at the time. The Germans were quite happy to supply arms to quite a few countries back then it would seem.

    @grahambamford9073@grahambamford9073Ай бұрын
  • For those interested, "Ukko-Mauser" basically means "Old Man Mauser" in this context.

    @Grummar@GrummarАй бұрын
  • Great video 👍🏼🤩

    @danielhess39@danielhess39Ай бұрын
  • Good research

    @allansivula3669@allansivula3669Ай бұрын
  • It's in great shape!!!

    @stevenveltrie1868@stevenveltrie1868Ай бұрын
  • I have a Mauser C96 Bolo. Not one serial numbered part matches another. Supposedly, and I only have the pawn shop I bought it from for $350 to go on (it was covered in rust and had several broken or missing parts) it was a Franken gun assembled from spare parts laying around the factory and sold to a USGI in 1945 as a souvenir. I've since got it shooting, but the chamber is very rough and leaves scratches on ejected cases and the rifling is mostly shot out, so I'll probably have it resleeved once I get it refinished. I'm keeping the original 7.63mm caliber though.

    @Swindle1984@Swindle1984Ай бұрын
  • My granfather shot reds 1918 during the independence war with this gun, we have also akka Mauser (akka-nagging wife). Great that this guns are still working.

    @rikutaskinen5432@rikutaskinen5432Ай бұрын
  • Finland is based.

    @DMSparky@DMSparkyАй бұрын
    • Based? Based on what?

      @grsdsrg430@grsdsrg430Ай бұрын
    • Huh?

      @moehoward01@moehoward01Ай бұрын
    • ​@@grsdsrg430Based on sauna and sisu.

      @VikingTeddy@VikingTeddyАй бұрын
    • ​@@grsdsrg430I read that in badgers voice.

      @samuelfrank4787@samuelfrank4787Ай бұрын
    • Very

      @c1ph3rpunk@c1ph3rpunkАй бұрын
  • Every time i see a c-96, i think of churchhill on safari in africa, and his " little pom-pom. ( I think i got that right) That may be a cool idea for a topic. The guns of Churchill, and Roosevelt, on thier famous african safaris.

    @richardtalbott6215@richardtalbott6215Ай бұрын
    • When young Winston was a REPORTER in the Boer War, he also carried a C-96. Interesting bloke, old Winnie.

      @bruceinoz8002@bruceinoz8002Ай бұрын
    • @@bruceinoz8002 hear, hear, matey! I believe that would be a proper British response. Idk for sure, as I am just a small-town American rednek, but.... Sir Churchill's safari memoirs is an interesting story.

      @richardtalbott6215@richardtalbott6215Ай бұрын
  • I feel like this guy has not aged in like 15 years

    @zactonic2295@zactonic2295Ай бұрын
  • You can tell Ian has spent too much time in the country when a simple intro to a pistol prompts him to give a 5-minute history lesson on Finland all the way to the time of Swedish rule. Like a true Finn.

    @poika22@poika22Ай бұрын
  • Shows Fiochi ammunition behind him. It gave huge brilliant white fireballs in 7.63 Mauser!

    @dennisyoung4631@dennisyoung4631Ай бұрын
  • High up on the cool scale.

    @nucleargrizzly1776@nucleargrizzly1776Ай бұрын
  • Good memories... My great grandfather was one of those Jaggers.... He had Ukko-mauseri... Illegally... Although it was in such a bad condition.. I seriously doubt that it was functional.. But for me as a kid.. it was the most awesome "toy" gun ever .. which me and My cousins fought over... 😀😀 Who's turn it was to play with it..

    @anza77@anza77Ай бұрын
    • A real-feeling toy, was it?

      @veikkakarvonen831@veikkakarvonen831Ай бұрын
  • Unusable is a strange choice of words to use for a C96. That was the very first practical auto loader and I would still feel well armed with one today. They were sold all over the world, especially China, sure this one you got had the weird original caliber , but still a gun well designed and a piece of history. Those 3 Mauser employee did a great job, hope they had a nice bonus in their pay. This was the gun many British officers bought, such as Winston Churchill and Lawrence of Arabia. I saw some reconditioned ones in a magazine in US about 2 decades ago, but I live in Canada, only criminals are allowed to have guns here. We even get public statement from our Toronto police telling us to leave our car keys close to the front door so it will not inconvenient the thieves, and don't bug them, many of them are armed said the cop. Whats next, leave our young daughters near the front door too?

    @tonylam9548@tonylam9548Ай бұрын
  • Morning early team!

    @jamesallred460@jamesallred460Ай бұрын
  • good vid

    @user-hq2fy5cs1k@user-hq2fy5cs1kАй бұрын
  • Interesting

    @sverkerolausson2252@sverkerolausson2252Ай бұрын
  • A very cool looking gun.

    @user-xw7hs7cg7d@user-xw7hs7cg7dАй бұрын
  • Interesting. Their training camp was at a place called Hohenlockstedt, close to my area in northern Germany. 2015 the 100th aniversary was celebrated there.

    @DirkGWDohn@DirkGWDohnАй бұрын
  • Really nice looking C96. I never knew the Finns had the C96. Really cool how it served until the 50s. The Finns really had an amazing history of firearms, both foreign and domestic in origin.

    @inductivegrunt94@inductivegrunt94Ай бұрын
  • Mr Lahti and Saloranta planning lot of great guns.

    @villeamiettinen@villeamiettinenАй бұрын
  • Would definitely be a cool historic addition...

    @308driver@308driverАй бұрын
  • The story says that these c96 + similar accessories are still in the houses with the permission of the "civil guard", i.e. sky. Of course, the authorities want such things in the melting pot. Recently, the Lapland police presented the pistols brought to the handover , proud of their achievements. I cried a small tear for a lost piece of my nation's history.

    @villev8844@villev8844Ай бұрын
  • TIL where the red 9 designation for the Mauser in Resident Evil came from.

    @mikhailryzhov9419@mikhailryzhov9419Ай бұрын
  • Finland has not gone back and forth between Sweden and Russia. Finland was part of Sweden for almost 700 years before Sweden was forced to give up Finland to Russia at the peace of 1809. After that, Finland was a Grand Duchy of Russia until it became an independent nation in 1917

    @riddick7082@riddick7082Ай бұрын
  • Its kinda funny how Finland of all places has adopted Gun Jesus,

    @MrRugbylane@MrRugbylaneАй бұрын
  • Ian, I'm a big fan of your channel and you are the very best at Firearms history and as usual the video is great. But this once I have to correct you, not about firearms but the History of Finland as a nation. Rather than a Back-and-forth of owners Finlands history is a journey from a province of Sweden for some 600 years, to 1809 when an empire stole it, then finally Freedom 1917 as that empire fell apart.

    @thunder2434@thunder2434Ай бұрын
  • Three things I love about Finland: Arto Saari, Ripsipiirakka and Finnish firearms history. (Coincidentally, the only three things I know about Finland 🤔)

    @jimwu4579@jimwu4579Ай бұрын
  • Ahhhh! The choice of an avid gun collector. It’s a nice gun stranger!

    @TertiaOculus@TertiaOculusАй бұрын
  • Nice.

    @tristanconnolly5675@tristanconnolly5675Ай бұрын
  • I am german, Brittas boyfriend. The fact that former finnish guns are stamped ,SA' is confusing for german people, so in 1980s rather often in geman arms magazines was noted, this means something like Suomen Armeen (?), because finnish name of country is Suomi. And Imperial Germany had four armies: A) The prussian army, including the troops of greatduchies, duchies, principalities , hanseatic towns and Alsace- Lorraine. B) Bavarian army. C) Saxon army. D) Württembergian army. The troops of the armies B to D had a number of special rights ( Reservatrechte).

    @brittakriep2938@brittakriep2938Ай бұрын
    • SA=Suomen Armeija=Finnish army We like to keep things simple😁

      @Kesssuli@KesssuliАй бұрын
    • @@Kesssuli It can be confusing since SA could also be an abbreviation of Saksan Armeija = German Army

      @romaliop@romaliopАй бұрын
    • @@romaliop SA in German could mean Sturm-Abteilung in some contexts. However, I have never seen SA in a Finnish text meaning the German Army (i.e., Heer, including Wehrmacht and the SS).

      @hannumononen6345@hannumononen6345Ай бұрын
  • You should check the firing pin. It usual snaps in 2. Pistol will still fire. I have changed it on 3 guns. The Red 9. 1917 model.

    @darkwingduck5005@darkwingduck5005Ай бұрын
  • C96 my beloved.

    @This_Is_TinN@This_Is_TinNАй бұрын
  • Oh god I want this!

    @nicholasmaugeri759@nicholasmaugeri759Ай бұрын
  • I'm impressed by your knowledge of Finnish history, however please allow me to nitpick a little bit. Technically Russia was not occupying Finland during the Great War years as legally Sweden had handed Finland over to Russia in 1809. In the Civil War, the Whites were not "more Western oriented" and the Reds were not "more Russian oriented" - I assume this mistake stems from looking back to the events in 1918 from a modern perspective. The Red side included Communists of course, but the majority of them were Social Democrats. Even the Communists were divided between the idea of independent Communist Finland and *possibly* joining the Soviet Union, and the Social Democrats of course were firmly committed to Finnish independence. The Jäger Movement was not quite as strong as you said - less than two thousand men actually joined the Prussian army. But really, you had the big picture framed right, well done!

    @garfunkel6975@garfunkel6975Ай бұрын
  • 5:47 good pronunciation, Ian 👍

    @equolizer@equolizerАй бұрын
  • SA, for non-Finnish speakers, means "Suomen Armeija", Army of Finland.

    @WolfJarl@WolfJarlАй бұрын
    • Slightly nitpicking if I may, Suomen Armeija (not literally) translates into "Finnish armed forces", including both Army, Navy and Air Force. But yes, AS is indeed Suomen Armeija.

      @onkelrolle@onkelrolleАй бұрын
  • my great grandfather was one of those who went to Germany he maid training "book" about using bayonet. and my grandmas cousin was one of those assassins

    @vhsviking8094@vhsviking8094Ай бұрын
  • Nice short history :) i like it. You must try find this book: the finnish military cartridges 1918-1945 writen by Pitkänen Mika - Simpanen Timo. I have read this book and it is very intresting. It is mostly in finnish but there is some translated in english.

    @sampoalaharju7239@sampoalaharju7239Ай бұрын
  • Lol. Ian you’re a sucker for just about any genre of firearm. That’s why you’re so good at this!😂

    @danielm8611@danielm8611Ай бұрын
  • I guess you could say that unfilled contract was...Finnished...WAKKA WAKKA

    @techmarine83@techmarine83Ай бұрын
  • Suomi mainittu, torilla tavataan :D🇫🇮

    @fnfallout5664@fnfallout5664Ай бұрын
    • Mainitaan melko usein tällä kanavalla.

      @ChristianConrad@ChristianConradАй бұрын
    • Perkele!

      @jannearo328@jannearo328Ай бұрын
    • ​@@ChristianConrad Ja hyvä niin, pönkittää imagoa. Paitsi ehkä Ahlberg ja JaTiMatic videot.

      @Tunkkis@TunkkisАй бұрын
    • Ei tavata.

      @Vmaatti@VmaattiАй бұрын
    • Mitä siellä torilla tehdään? Paikkoja iloisesti vallataan, huudetaan mölyapinan raivolla ja särjetään paikkoja! Ihanaa, suomi mainittu!

      @pvahanen@pvahanenАй бұрын
  • That used sivil war too 1918. Some revolvers too. Winter war, and especially Continue war, the finnish army gets and use others pistols too. Wooden tail pistol, good accuracy.

    @mikemilk2653@mikemilk2653Ай бұрын
  • I wish they still made those guns.

    @flournoymason8961@flournoymason8961Ай бұрын
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