Sam Hyde Charls and Nick Rochefort on Fake History, The Green Brothers, and Science Fiction!
Sam Hyde, Charls Carroll and Nick Rochefort are talking about historical events and their perspectives on them. Sam brings up the Green Brothers during this discussion and shares his view on the duo. This is followed by Sam and Charls talking about Science Fiction author Gene Wolfe and Jack Vance. Charls brings up Gene Wolfe's Likeness to the Pringles man. Finally the trio talk about Science Fiction and similarities to religion.
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These "skeptics" are only skeptical of things that are 100% safe and socially acceptable to be skeptical of.
To your point, one of the most extreme examples that I've ever seen is the debate on Rogan between Carlson/Hancock vs Shermer. Check that out if you haven't already seen it - what a classic.
@@LeeWanner yeah Shermer looked like the dumbest guy in the room somehow
Exactly-it’s ridiculous. *(1)* This scientism/consensus/peer-reviewed/EstmtApproved-insistence & focus on trivial things. *(2)* Another thing, people go “Why would God allow this?” How do you balance Free Will & a near-enternaI battIe-there are laws, realms, histories, beliefs, & practices express in detail by a variety of authoritative sources and still people come into the world & develop their thinking like someone who shows up to a party late, and wonders why people are kept outside & have to piss in a corner, they half-heartedly ask why they can’t go inside & go on about how rude the host is, but they didn’t even care to talk to a few people about the situation they just march to the door & insist on their view that the party should be inside.
*(3)* Not all the people in the past were wrong or lying. I read things from 2ooo years ago, l600s, l905, and they all reason the same as us-with similar concerns, & shockingly similar limitations & dissatisfactions.
I’m honestly glad that I’ve seen 2 traditionaI ghosts & 10+ transparent entity encounters. TL/DR; Encounters & accosted. I was really forced to believe after I saw one in a car across the street (i thought it was a kid left in the car as the parents packed for a trip & to leave at 3-4am, but then saw the house was dark & went up to the care & looked from different angles, rubbed my eyes, walked away & came back, & was like “well would you look at that.” *(2)* My cat less then 1.5 at the time, I saw a transparent, then the cat started pawing (on my old phone I had a 8.5 min vid of it). Couldn’t ignore it. *(3)* Lately, I’ve been getting a lot of signs from God (& more since then), then 1-2 wks ago, I saw a transparent, and was looking at it while I started thinking of negative things that can happen to me, and I knew I what was happening, it started coming at me (AIso: *(4)* I see them at night zipping & walking around the streets/my cats & I will often look at the same time in the same place-one time I just met a girl [thieving at the local cvs & felt compelled to talk to her after she responded extra to a passing hello; def used me for cover & b/c i knew the ppI she wasn’t pressed too hard only got to take half her load-fckngwmnIoI] she drove to my house & we sat in my drive, was pissed I left my key, & had to go through a window in the back, and was stomping through my yard & 1 (in a line of maybe 4-5 or more against the bushes) stepped out in front of me like a person would to punk a younger kid on the street (i got the distinct feeling they were hanging out & he was showing off), I saw the outline didn’t even flinch, started invoking JC & finished my mission.)-things started to go into slow-mo, it stepped to me, stepped on my foot, to & against my chest, & then it struck, I felt the cold air swirling inside my pupil/eye hole. It bounced when I thought of calling on The Big Man. And then I got the words out. “In The Name Of JC…” Accosted like Mahovnd was. He had to be convinced it was G-d’s ang. Later that night, for the 1st time in 2 wks I watched the ArmorofG-d chn, and a priest was talking about how even good priests, exrcsts, & saints are/were attkd at night. He said, “We don’t know why G-d allows this-maybe it’s to show it’s real.” Now I can’t ignore it-I could rationalize everything away, the cats, even to the stepping on foot & chest; be utter complacent. But the eye thing reminds me everyday. This sht is for keeps. It’s all real, the ancients weren’t idiots. We’re all being gaslit on are way to their pyre. It’s like blindfolding & earplugging a person, pushing them out the door & saying, “Walk anywhere-use the streets, there are no cars.” Wild stuff. My life feels at another stage. If you can get right/honest w/ yourself & God, the ‘seek’ & ‘ask’ things are real-you’ll be forced to keep a record & rate the force of the synchronicities.
I remember my AP history teacher did nothing but show videos of Adam Conover and the Green brothers whenever any American history subject was taught. Straight reddit propaganda
Same. It's fascinating how an entire generation of students are taught by him.
Your ap history teacher was probably taking creepshots during class
@@J.13333My AP history teacher’s main goal in life was to impress a bunch of teen girls at the expense of the teenage boys. Man’s prolly imagined he was some kind of Disney channel bully in his head. Prolly hated his dad or something so he took it out on us. Anyways it didn’t work, everyone thought he was a loser who probably took creep shots of the girls in class.
You gotta be fair to John green. His videos are probably better at educating kids than 80 percent of actual teachers are. Personally I think they are actually really valuable resources especially the stuff done by the green brother specifically because it’s not boring and it’s very understandable.
Jesus yeah they’re basically AI that are directly plugged into Reddit or something
One of the Green brothers made the "I fucking love science" song
Was that the vaccine song?
Soyience™ I think I said something along the lines of "all that soy is why you have wide hips and cancer, Hank" and it got me banned from commenting.
I wrote something too egregious for the YT censor. They love Soyience™, not science. It's easy for them to mix up because they have low T levels.
I wrote that Hank has wide hips and cancer because he eats too much soy and it didn't post.
Soycacas..
"Was Ben Franklin a bad guy?" "I'm not sure he even existed" Never change, Charls.
One of those brothers does a "being this smart is exhausting" act. Infuriating
I mean he does have to lug around a brain that big all day
It's the episode of the Simpsons when Homer gains an iq of 105 and suffers
@@J.13333doesn’t he have brain cancer
Extremely typical midwits. Smarter than the average person but not smart enough to mentally exceed the current(ly collapsing) paradigm.
For real. Somebody will post a video saying “I just found out X” and then it’ll cut to him going “Hrrrrm not quite, but it’s actually a very interesting topic because...” every single time.
Those 2 soy brothers would be the most line-towing, official narrative believing creatures ever
They are like the property brothers. Exactly the same personality, cadence, mannerisms. Just one has a beard. So weird
I don't get how nobody else sees it, they are clearly effeminate weirdos, but people don't even hesitate to swallow their BS.
Yeah honestly, if you need the status quo reestablished you can count on the cancer brothers to sort it out.
One writes sex books for kids and the other makes soy filled history videos on KZhead
Made in the soy-corp labs 😊
The amount of pop history thats accepted as actual history by the general public is saddening
If history was music, most people would be listening to Nickelback.
@ChimpFromSpace if only people were still listening to nickelback
Lol its not just history. Its the same problem with news from last week
I have more testosteron in my left foot than the Green brothers have in their entire bloodline.
just a daily reminder that L. Ron Hubbard was intimately involved with the space and missile programs of the USA, he carried high level security clearance, and cuckholded the imfamous Jack Parsons; the two men spent a fortune together trying to animate a *o*unculi from scratch. *l*ens are fake
You may have more testosteron but they have more tolerance. So whos the real winnner chud.
bro is really flexing his ignorance of the endocrine system
@@aaaaaaasssssss3069bro ong he don't know nothin about bussin SHEEEEEEEESH on bro
Well they’re both bisexual so
The difference between knowledge and wisdom has never been more important
Exactly. Thank goodness we have Sam Hyde to guide us
Fuck finally someone roasts the greens. I never understood why everyone in high school treated these guys like gods
It's the perfect material for midwit teachers that think they're smart to show kids with 80 iq that don't know any better.
Did you go to an LGBT high school?
soyience is the diet of oversocialized intellectuals
@@nickpavia9021Yes
The only people I knew that liked them were overweight far-left girls because of Looking For Alaska
The green brothers keep getting cancer like they’re fun collectibles lol
Didn't know cancer can get cancer
charls is fkn tuned into everything, god damn
Tuned into bullshit
eh i feel like he just believes in literally every conspiracy theory, psyopped
@@guando9288 knowing a lot of theories isnt the same as believing them
Everything that doesn’t matter
When reality is finally presented without its veil you'll come running back.
lol charls "Are they married?"
They look like a gay couple, I legit thought they might be gay until I found out they are brothers
Why does Nick look like a street version of Peter Griffin in this
i liked your comment, but you should stop smoking weed
1 - Charls is correct. 2 - I would 100% watch an MDE travel show.
I've said many colourful things about the Green brothers, but it usually gets my account banned from commenting for 24 hours.
Epic broccoli, Jet neptune
If you tell hank green that gender isn't a spectrum, ya best be prepared cuz he's gonna come at you HARD
He’s a real ride or die gender dysphoria warrior! That’s the kinda guy I want to learn things that will change the way I look at the world from!
Charles seems to have access to forbidden knowledge. Quick someone ask him when we'll get a new quake game!
Aka schizomania
It’s not only the Green Brothers, but it’s really all of these shows and articles and channels making “quick fact, simplified summary” content. Absolutely nothing is stopping these people from throwing their own “takes” or narratives into their stories about anything in history. To top it all off, humanity’s historians have been doing this since the beginning. Am I to believe the United Kingdom, Austria, Russia, Sweden, etc. all taught their students an honest assessment about Napoleon Bonaparte’s life and career ~25 years after he died? How many of those students became “historians” I wonder? And that’s just *one* period example in history.
That reminds me of Nero who is known to be one of the worst Roman leaders, yet the only accounts (which are just one or two historians many years later) were a part of the aristocrats. Many historians now are starting to believe that Nero was actually a populist leader who crushed the elite, so they viewed him as a devil and that is all history remembers of him
Funny that whenever someone says a part of history is "fake" the "real" version just so happens to fit their world view lol
Yeah funny how people shape their worldview around what they believe.
Do you think it’s coincidental when someone is consistent with their thoughts and beliefs? I think that says more about you dude
@@flurry3074it's actually the other way around. People typically have their own worldview and cherry pick information that bolsters their beliefs.
Well I wouldn’t be surprised if Charls was skeptical about the Moon existing
I like the way nick looks at Sam every time Charls talks
before I learned they are brothers I thought they were a gay couple
The most based thing Charls said was the Roman’s and Greeks weren’t gay. Italy is still to this day like the most anti gay country in Europe outside of Rome. Obvious slander.
that's not true my man. Almost every city does gay pride and Bologna is European commie central. If you're anti gay on Italian television you'll get canceled immediately. We're just like the rest. Maybe we're not as "progressive" as the other major European countries but we're certainly not as redpilled as the Eastern European ones.
Ermm this might blow your mind. Sometimes countries can change over a long period of time for a variety of reasons
@@avagantamos2853Ermmm this might blow your mind, but youre gay (for a variety of reasons)
@@avagantamos2853in this instance lil_truth is 100% correct and there's evidence to back him up.
3:22 1939-1945 , 6 million ❤
Charls: I don’t know if Ben Franklin is real. Sam: I don’t trust skeptics website, the attitude of these people “I don’t think this happened” Charls: Yeah
respect to the mirc
Charles keeps getting less likable the more he talks
Pretty sure thats just Charls schtick. Playing an unhinged espteric skeptic while throwing in little truths here and there. I've never met him in person though.
Depends on the intent, atheist/skeptic types seem to be only motivated by wanting to look like the smartest in the room, they have no interest in “truth”
@@bickyboo7789 is it really bro? you can only keep up irony for so long
i want a full 2 hour charls podcast on the subject of history, pyramids etc..
Recently I can never tell if Charls is playing a character or being serious lolol
These guys are idiotic in a sense. He’s being serious and descriptively he knows his stuff but for some reason Sam and Charls’ egos are thru the window and their fucking insane takes are consecutive. Saying someone shouldve gotten cancer cuz theyre a geek is evil behavior
@@ak90o45 nah geek genocide is based
@@ak90o45 and also it's a meta-ironic joke.
This comment thread made me pregnant with an aids baby
This comment thread made gave me an a I d s baby
6:58 I LIKE CHIPS HYUCK HYUCK iconic nick line
Sam is being sweet by googlkng anything that charls wants to talk about
A lot of people don't get it......go back and watch WP.....you can see the massive influence Charles had on it Charles is a self aware kook, but its he's also a gold mine for comedic innovation. Its a competitive edge
The crystal palace at the worlds fair was at the time completely impossible to build, I don’t think that it was impossible I think there was manufacturing techniques that have been lost to time that are more advanced than we even have now
when cars were invented we had electric cars and cars that ran on moonshine, cars that ran on water etc all in the first 10 years. Tesla was already capable of capturing free atmospheric electricity. All of it got shut down to keep the cattle paying $$$
Never trust a nerd to give their opinion about things that require manual labor
It's so good having the boys back together could :,)
Need Charls to explain the church bell theory.
The walls of Jericho is one of my favorite Charles things and then Sam is like what are the walls of Jericho. Charles : i dont know lol.
“Edited by Laurel and Hardy” was a great line
A hot new take on the 1892 Worlds Fair. The buildings were made from wood, they burnt down eventually.
If you can’t tell those building aren’t wood there’s no hope for you.
Hot new take: Chicago "The White City" & the World Fair meant to celebrate the 400th anniversary of Europeans settling America would have been viewed as bigotry & yt supramecy in 1892, in the Marxist-Lincolnist Reconstruction era of America which would gladly "accidentally" burn it down and build ugly brutalism in its place.
He’s just saying that’s just a new theory circulating to avoid the truth.
World’s Fair were made of wood and paper maché. They were literally temporary structures like a movie set would be. No “conspiracy” about it.
@@sobohompkin-ls7cp and you know because you were there, right?
I would pay good money for a Million Dollar Extreme travel show. Not kidding.
Fiction holds more truth than history.
My family oral history goes back a couple hundred years. My house in New England was built in 1740, Indians traded the land for a proper burial of one of their daughters. History is manipulated extensively but the mud flood, reset narrative I believe is a psyop. Flat earth yes, atmospheric electricity yes, advanced civilizations in the past yes, 1000 added years maybe, overarching brave new world tartaria theory no
Oh yeah. Fiction is true in the future as well as the past.
"The reason we havent gone back to the moon is because we destroyed that technology" - Don Pettit
"The reason we didn't go back is because we didn't go" - Buzzed Aldrin
@@boomser911 they did go and did a bunch of gay occult stuff. Buzz is a freemason. They planted a freemason flag and call it lodge 0. The manufacturing base in the USA is lost with all the skilled machinists and engineers having retired etc and not replaced. NASA is more interested in political outreach than actually going to space.
@boomser911 they did go and did a bunch of shameful occult stuff. Buzz is a freemason. They planted a freemason flag and call it lodge 0. The manufacturing base in the USA is lost with all the skilled machinists and engineers having retired etc and not replaced. NASA is more interested in political outreach than actually going to space.
Lol you yanks can’t even remember the names of the dudes that went to the mood apart form buzz and Armstrong … wouldn’t that be a big deal lol
Who cares about the names of every Freemason liar
i get all my history from lovecraft, howard and vance
The green brother made an argument for why they sit down when they pee 😂
It's a great way to not get your piss everywhere like 95% of men on the planet seem to be fine with for some reason. Does your masculinity really depend on something so trivial? I never understood this. I don't want piss anywhere but in the toilet bowl, so I sit. Why is that "unmanly", and why does it matter? Would you really rather walk into a public bathroom with piss all over the place or would you rather it be clean? Seems dead simple to me.
Gene Wolfe mentioned let's goooo
Charles actually falling for the tartaria meme is really depressing.
you sound like one of those skeptics
Tartaria feels like a psyop for those still smart enough not to buy into the flat earth one (not exactly a high threshold, I know). Of course, not being omiscient I still have to leave open the inevitability of something weird and seemingly inpossible turning out to be true (which might just be Tartaria... 😬 ...or not.)
U falling for world fairs dawg
tartaria is just a cope for how far european society has fallen. “omg aliens built all these cool buildings” nah bro it was white dudes
@@slicedtopiecesSam point-blanked asked him on the podcast if he thinks the earth is flat and he said yes lmfao. Have you noticed that he will spend all day talking about how the moon is hollow, or how George Washington never existed, or the Tartaria mud-flood theories, but when anyone brings up the actions of a certain ethno-religious group he claims "Those people don't exist anymore!!". Really gets the noggin joggin' 🤔🤔 He also unironically thinks 'We wuz kangs' is real. Look at his channel lol
well (v.) "to spring, rise, gush," Old English wiellan (Anglian wællan), causative of weallan "to boil, bubble up, rise (in reference to a river)" (class VII strong verb; past tense weoll, past participle weallen), from Proto-Germanic *wellanan "to roll"
thank you for posting this one, bookbros are back I got into Sanderslop last summer but it got me reading again. Black Company and Malazan are my fun reads, but I need to step up my sci fi and Jack Vance and Gene Wolfe's stories are basically coming true in live time so best read these strategy guides read the Tao of Pooh for a smile
Gene Wolfe is beyond based
Imagine being called Mr Broccoli
Tartaria is a psyop
But a *neat *psyop
Yep. It's another one put in place to minimize what Europeans have contributed to humanity.
derp derp
Charls and Sam talking Wolfe/Vance makes me so happy
Farside - The Human
"are they married?"
Its the Chicago World's Fair, isn't it?? Nick is scary funny
Love the Gene Wolfe mention, great author
Charls I got a “well” for you to sleep in bro bro let me know if you need
3:06 Too good 😆
thank you guys a lot of botns. i would never have found it myself and i love it so much. so yeah thanks. actually taken me 8 months to pluck up the "motivation" to get started on urth of the new sun but tbh ive been freaking depressed after finsihing the original. ive never read any books before it, so since it was my first it will proably always be my favorite.
Where’s & what is the full episode?
My game is; don't worry about washing as long as you provide. I have running water btw.
Brings up Dresden Then goes into far deep end and goes onto some tartaria crap. Imagine poisoning the well like this
It's called enlightenment
@@elumayo4090 sure thing. Prehistory of 1919 is completely fabricated etc but then 1940s is all real. Get a job
What event is Sam referring to at 3:20 I just can't figure it out.
THE event 🇮🇱
@@DonaldTrumpGriefing october 7th???
The Hologram
@@sleepwalkusa135 the h0l0c4u5t
I wish I could watch the full episodes but the Gumroad won’t let me view any of the stuff I paid for
Exactly
Haha thats funny
Are you on iPhone? You have to refresh it to see the new stuff by dragging down
LOL imagine paying Sam Hyde for anything ever
@@closcer3950we got a brokie
Holy fuck, Gene Wolfe did invent the Pringles
What episode is this,
Whats the green bros real last name
nick Fuentes summed up Green brothers perfectly.
What did he say?
Where can I find it? Rumble?
tell us
Iv been trying to find it bro it’s not on cozy or anything lol . Help us out
Drop a link
Equal and opposite to Pringles, the guy who invented Fritos originally just made them to attract people to his gas station - and he sold the recipe, machinery and all for *_$100_*
he do be doin it for his daughta
that many? how did they get to that number? signatures gathered by relatives? I dont know, doesn't sound accurate. Official numbers by the red cross in one site says ~200 000, no other official number? wait, it's illegal to ask this? that's weird bro
I honestly don’t blame these people. I was in that mindset for a small amount of time, like maybe half a year or so, and it is really easy to fall down that hole. You know random facts from reddit that no one else knows, so you can always feel superior and smarter in any topic. Any descenting opinion is removed before you can view it, and the ones left are really stupid and easy to debunk so you feel like you understand both sides of the arguement and know why yours’ is more correct. Every single piece of media backs up your opinion so any others become so rediculous and outragous that they are silly. Like as if someone would say “maybe the sky isn’t blue! And there is no media articles because they don’t want you to know about it!” With your response being “or you are so stupid that there is no reason to write an article supporting that idea”. Then this snowballs into a trust of the media, where even though you understand there is some corruption, it can’t be that deep because every article you’ve seen has been proven by redditors. The only way to break out of this cycle is to unironically go outside and see how different the world is compared to what the media and reddit tells you
Can someone explain to me what they were talking about with the world's fair stuff?
2:26 Phew 😮💨
Nice pfp
what book was Charles talking about at 8:47?
Demon Princes series by Jack Vance
3:08 lol
I love charls so much lol this guy...
Most of these comments arent on the Charls wavelength for lack of better terms. He has a certain communication style that confuses people into thinking he's insane. Ya'll may be taking what he's saying much too literal. What's going on is he's trying to unravel really complex concepts in regards to history. That's all. The documentation of history isnt full proof. Especially back in the day. I believe most people are too dismissive for their own good to hearing other alternatives. "What a shame" or "I cant believe he's falling for it" are examples of closed minded folks. Or just sub IQ or average.
They’re so right about the trickle down. It’s in everything really. But especially in Sci-Fi there are like three or four writers who have influenced everything since. Nothing new under the sun.
The antechamber in claw of the conciliator where people were held indefinitely was a haunting image. It really made me think back on Severians dream with Malrubius where Severian was asked what his relation to that of authority and the divine with the differing types of governence. While seemingly the most advaced form of governance of that of self rule where a governmental body is formed, is revealed its the most separated from the divine. The people in the antechamber have no connection to about anything, the ruling class only presents itself to tortue them in the antechamber. We see also Thecla as an adolescent would torture them for fun aswell. what is only a small game and even smaller part of their world is the entirety of the world of those in the antechamber. Making the only relation they have to the governing body an abstract
Sam as Baldanders Charls as Severian
Walls of Jericho are from an Old Testament story about the Israelites taking a city that was long thought to be impenetrable because of the thickness and height of the walls around it. They did some kind of prayer and God tore down the walls. I’m pretty sure I remember that right.
3:08 whatcha doing there nick?
Gene wolfe was a genius RIP
@3:22 LMAO
The only deboonker I ever liked was Terry Jones in his Medieval Lives series.
Based and Wolfe pilled
Always loved Sam and nic now I know the are URTh of the new Sun series fans I’m now a life long friend and show supporter! Symbols shape us
Charles should do a refresher on all these topics right before giving us a 24 hour stream. I could listen to that all Day
I get john confused woth david pacman
I dropped out of military college when my physiology prof started showing hank green videos, dropping out of college saved my sanity.
It is sad to see that Charles has been rendered schizophrenic, I blame the CIA
sorry Sam but I'm questioning the whole Helen Keller thing
why was jonas so heavily effected by the lasers in the prison under the house absolute?
Because he's an inverse cyborg and the electric whips scramble his circuits
@@PoopFaceMcButt that makes sense. where did he go after he went in the mirror?
3:22 Ah yes, the great massacre of the "Brazilians" by the Germans....in the 2014 world cup.
3:23 hahaha same Sam
I remember John Green's god awful history videos
Charls schizo rants always make me laugh. The sanatorium comments in particular. But then I remember he actually believes it.
Does he? Not saying he doesn't, just don't know that he does.
@@KittSpikenHe does. Dude is low IQ.
@@KittSpiken I guess that adds to the humor
@@bradfordlangston836 for sure 🤣playing Where's Charl's Line is always good for a laugh.
2:22 - 2:50 crying laughing XD
These guys been watching too many of them Tartaria videos
Man.. idk what the FUCK these guys are talkin about half the time. But i like it
jocko willink
@@illsmackudown I can't stand that guy
@@quallude1GOOD.
I THINK they get a lot of it from 4chan, specifically the /pol/ board but others too. The threads about the World's Fairs are fascinating. It's like EXTREMELY old pictures showing these massive beautiful buildings that historians now claim were somehow made of plaster and torn down as soon as these fairs were over. It just doesn't make sense when you see the photos. One of the absolute weirdest things about "history" in my opinion. 4chan is where you can learn more about our world than anywhere else, but you have to swim through a lot of bullshit to find it.
@@cremedelamemesupreme1649 anywhere you know of that would have these threads archived? Are they recent or older threads?
3:30
The Silly brothers