D1 Wrestler vs BJJ Brown Belt ABSOLUTE SCRAP! | Mikey England vs Austin Baker

2021 ж. 22 Нау.
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Division 1 Wrestler and MMA prospect Mikey England takes on Gracie Barra brown belt Austin Baker during the Semi-Finals of the Men's Advanced No-Gi Absolute at Sub Spectrum: Des Moines (June 2019)
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  • I wrestled D1 during the mid-90's and rolled with a Jiu Jitsu blue belt. Most of the time, I thought I was winning until I was trapped. That was a humbling experience.

    @YouStupidBunny@YouStupidBunny3 жыл бұрын
    • I was a horrible wrestler in high school. But i do good against blue belts. But thats because i knew self taught submissions. My first day of Wrestling practice i was 105 pounds and choked out a guy that was 215 in about 5 seconds. I was disappointed when i was told thats not allowed in wrestling

      @dallaswilliams1002@dallaswilliams10022 жыл бұрын
    • @@dallaswilliams1002 lol yeah. chocking also isn't allowed in Jiu Jitsu tournaments right?

      @rabbitazteca23@rabbitazteca232 жыл бұрын
    • @@rabbitazteca23 Wtf. Sure it is.

      @ramon1930@ramon19302 жыл бұрын
    • Personally as a state champion, I usually cap out against brown belts. I know my few self taught submissions and wrestle cautious so I don't get caught in something. I usually try to roll in to my Kimura or a front face side choke with like arm pressure (idk I'm not a bjj guy).

      @zymond8405@zymond84052 жыл бұрын
    • @Mason Ferris that's true. I went to a judo gym one time and almost everyone their was a black belt. I destroyed every black belt but one. We were about even, but he also trained at other places for a long time before that. I was submitting everyone else atleast twice in 2 minute drills

      @dallaswilliams1002@dallaswilliams10022 жыл бұрын
  • Title should say: "190 pounds wrestler vs 240 pounds BJJ brown belt".

    @kallepikku4991@kallepikku49913 жыл бұрын
    • Not making a statement about BJJ vs Wrestling. If anything we wanted to showcase how incredibly effective wrestling can be when you understand a little BJJ. It’s simply a title and a thumbnail that gets people to click. If I posted this video with their names or a different title, it might get 100 views in a day. With this thumbnail and title it’s gotten over 11,000 in less than a day and because of that more people than every know who these men are - compared to if I just named it “Mikey England vs Austin Baker”

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
    • @@subspectrumbjj I'm pretty sure the title "190 pounds wrestler vs 240 pounds BJJ brown belt" would get the same or even more views. At least there is an underdog to root for.

      @kallepikku4991@kallepikku49913 жыл бұрын
    • Based on how your speaking, it comes to sound that your a wrestler, who feels attacked. I know how you feel, because I felt the same. But you have to understand that this isn’t about which one is better. Both are very effective, however, wrestling tends to favor the feet, and BJJ favors the ground. It went exactly as expected. I wrestled for ten years, and I’ve done BJJ for 4 months. It proves how effective it is. Please understand that this isn’t about which one is better, it’s about a really good match between two different grappling backgrounds.

      @alessandrosaltsman2202@alessandrosaltsman22023 жыл бұрын
    • @@alessandrosaltsman2202 Exactly! ^^^

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
    • I think I must’ve thought I was responding to a different suggestion cause this is actually a good one.

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • Butt-scooting should be banned in submission grappling. It gives BJJ players no incentive to learn how to take someone down.

    @AnGhaeilge@AnGhaeilge3 жыл бұрын
    • As a jiu jitsu fighter i agree. It has given jiu jitsu a bad image over the years. It is a ground fighting art so you should learn how to take it there.

      @alex.pendleton@alex.pendleton3 жыл бұрын
    • @Shaun K running isn’t all about knowing how to put your shoes on, but its pretty damn important to do first. I also don’t think that anyone implied that grappling is all about takedowns. Its just something you should know.

      @alex.pendleton@alex.pendleton3 жыл бұрын
    • @Shaun K If you can't take someone down, what control exactly do you have over them? I've trained both BJJ and Judo - takedowns are essential for the real world to apply your BJJ.

      @AnGhaeilge@AnGhaeilge3 жыл бұрын
    • @Shaun K there is a reason why you don't see a lot of butt scooting in MMA; even though MMA doesn't directly translate to the real world, it gets a little closer than more restrictive sports.

      @Mishkola@Mishkola3 жыл бұрын
    • 100 % ... think Khabib and GSP

      @johnmcadam7493@johnmcadam74933 жыл бұрын
  • Nice to see the wrestler in the appropriate division. I've seen some D1 and MMA guys cleaning out whitebelt divisions lately.

    @The_YouTube_Critic@The_YouTube_Critic3 жыл бұрын
    • We would never allow it and Mikey would never do that. He wants to compete against and beat the best. With a little more Jiu Jitsu experience I believe he could do really well in the ADCC ruleset.

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
    • @@subspectrumbjj I appreciate that mindset. There was a money comp that I'm not going to name. The white belt winners were MMA fighters and a D1 wrestler. I've been to past comps with Judo black belts and such competing at white belt. I just don't understand it.

      @The_YouTube_Critic@The_YouTube_Critic3 жыл бұрын
    • @@The_KZhead_Critic it's because they are afraid, afraid of getting rag dolled by someone with their own level of skill.

      @VoltedSoldier@VoltedSoldier3 жыл бұрын
    • I enjoy facing better fighters as a white belt. Our gym throws us to the wolves and forces different levels of experience for all of us. The wrestlers are savages,

      @kevin8462@kevin84623 жыл бұрын
    • Lately?

      @samuelemeryjiujitsu@samuelemeryjiujitsu3 жыл бұрын
  • 5:24 Now *THAT* is chain wrestling

    @danieloftamriel@danieloftamriel3 жыл бұрын
    • Beautiful stuff! 🙌🏼

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
    • Amen . This is why I want boxing and wrestling before Muay Thai and jiu jitsu

      @TorahObservantUnitarian@TorahObservantUnitarian2 жыл бұрын
  • Impressive how evenly matched they were despite the major size difference

    @HookEm21@HookEm213 жыл бұрын
    • Agreed. Styles make matchups and this was a perfect example of that fact.

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj2 жыл бұрын
    • Wait who was bigger!?

      @Rob_2002_NCAA_Champion@Rob_2002_NCAA_Champion2 жыл бұрын
    • @@Rob_2002_NCAA_Champion Austin had about 50 lbs on Mikey

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj2 жыл бұрын
    • I didnt it was that close tbh.....close un points but Austin had his back twice with 2 close chokes and two sweeps.....

      @godsmack1716@godsmack17162 жыл бұрын
    • @@subspectrumbjj holy shit. 50 pounds? Could you imagine if they weighed the same. Crazy

      @Rob_2002_NCAA_Champion@Rob_2002_NCAA_Champion2 жыл бұрын
  • That was insane how he managed to escape the almost rear naked choke hold

    @cheesymac6732@cheesymac67323 жыл бұрын
    • That's because he is calm

      @farhcawalid8224@farhcawalid82243 жыл бұрын
    • @@farhcawalid8224 Yes...OSS...!!

      @markg9749@markg97493 жыл бұрын
    • @@farhcawalid8224 time management was perfect. But I would've tapped before he even started choking 😭

      @fernandofigueirinhas7110@fernandofigueirinhas71103 жыл бұрын
    • There’s a lot that went into his ability to defend that choke. I speak on it briefly in the commentary but would love to dive a little deeper into an explanation about it.

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
    • @@subspectrumbjj would love to see that. Subbing in hopes you make that vid.

      @raptorfeet@raptorfeet3 жыл бұрын
  • As a beginner, the commentary is very helpful. I am able to see and understand things better unlike videos without explanation. Thanks!

    @otosbutt@otosbutt3 жыл бұрын
    • Hey! Thanks for the comment and for checking out the video!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
    • D rank

      @jasonkenny9559@jasonkenny95593 жыл бұрын
  • 5:24-5:44 Wrestling clinic. 20 seconds of gold!

    @Roll_Vids@Roll_Vids3 жыл бұрын
    • Seriously! Can’t tell you how many times I’ve clipped that section out and posted it to Instagram. It’s a thing of beauty!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
    • watch for the woman in the back with her mouth open in awe at the end of the clip hahahha

      @jasonbennett2194@jasonbennett21943 жыл бұрын
    • @@jasonbennett2194 Funny - I think that's what I did too. Maybe not for as long as her, though.

      @Roll_Vids@Roll_Vids3 жыл бұрын
    • Finishing is more important...u slammed him now how do u finish?

      @user-pp9bl5gr1n@user-pp9bl5gr1n3 жыл бұрын
    • @@user-pp9bl5gr1n ground and pound

      @ChrisBenJericho@ChrisBenJericho Жыл бұрын
  • Wrestling takedowns and control can nullify a lot of BJJ. Size differential can really nullify a lot of wrestling. There's magic in the blending of both moment to moment.

    @Dpackie@Dpackie3 жыл бұрын
    • No doubt - it's a great match!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj2 жыл бұрын
    • Train both BJJ and Wrestling I say, through in some techniques from Judo and Sambo and you got an unstoppable grappler

      @keanenfulton4696@keanenfulton4696 Жыл бұрын
    • @@keanenfulton4696 train wrestling first, as a kid in youth league. Then BJJ when you get a little older, 16+. The foundation in wrestling is far superior.

      @fr201@fr201 Жыл бұрын
    • SV not if you end up on your back. Wrestlers aren't good on their backs or know to protect their backs.

      @yusufgta4341@yusufgta4341 Жыл бұрын
    • @@yusufgta4341 I'm not sure what you mean. I said train both... but for kids, train Wrestling first b/c there's a built-in network of youth Wrestling leagues across the US in every public school nationwide. BJJ is still niche coast to coast. Both are great for different reasons. Wrestling for power/controls, BJJ for finishing.

      @fr201@fr201 Жыл бұрын
  • That recovery from the crank with full back control was insane

    @PUNEETAM20@PUNEETAM202 жыл бұрын
    • For real though. His escapes in this match were crazy. Couldn’t believe he kept Austin from getting all the way to his back with hooks in

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj2 жыл бұрын
  • 1:28 "Beautiful single leg." White shirt: It would be a shame if people couldn't enjoy this.

    @SwordTune@SwordTune3 жыл бұрын
    • It was a multi camera set up so it was hard to stay out of the way of all cameras, okay lol I’ll do better next time 😂

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
    • @@subspectrumbjj Haha, that's fine. But if you have multiple cameras, switching perspective would be very helpful.

      @SwordTune@SwordTune3 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah that was a good Single Leg Sweep !!!!!!! 🤙💪👌 👏👏👏👏👏👏

      @mariamamart8086@mariamamart80863 жыл бұрын
  • There was a massive weight difference between the two and anyone who has any experience in wrestling or grappling knows how hard and exhausting it is when the other guy has 30-40lbs on you

    @davidhelman3045@davidhelman30452 жыл бұрын
    • Facts bro 😂

      @shadoweditz9335@shadoweditz9335 Жыл бұрын
  • I enjoy seeing comments of wrestlers and jiu jitsu practitioners giving props to one another. Both are needed to become a great grappler!

    @alex.pendleton@alex.pendleton3 жыл бұрын
    • Those are the comments we love to see. These videos are not suggesting bjj is better than wrestling or vice versa. They’re to show that all styles of grappling can be successful when used in the proper sequence. It’s those that can put it all together who will be Champions! Thanks for watching and interacting positively in the comments. It means a lot!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
    • @@subspectrumbjj I would say that wrestling and BJJ have different strengths.

      @perfectsplit5515@perfectsplit55153 жыл бұрын
    • @Arrgh Jay If those top level BJJ guys ever try to start an MMA career, they’re going to need those wrestling basics. Just like you said - absorbing what is useful in each, which was what Bruce Lee said. He was right all along.

      @perfectsplit5515@perfectsplit55153 жыл бұрын
    • What is unfortunate is that people cannot formally train in Wrestling after they finish school, like they can in BJJ, Judo, or Karate.

      @perfectsplit5515@perfectsplit55153 жыл бұрын
    • @Arrgh Jay it is absolutely a problem and something even I experienced up until the last year or so. I can tell you my game improved dramatically after implementing more wrestling and leveling up the intensity of the practices that I coach to be more like the wrestling practices I had in HS.

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • Both of these guys are super impressive and this was so much fun to watch. THANK YOU!

    @harageilucid4352@harageilucid43523 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for watching and interacting in the comments! We appreciate you!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • As a wrestler, I learnt a lot from BJJ guys. So respect.

    @RikthDcruze@RikthDcruze2 жыл бұрын
    • I grew up wrestling and transitioned to BJJ after high school. Wrestling gave me a really great base to get started in BJJ. Forever grateful for everything I’ve learned about technique and life on the mats.

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj2 жыл бұрын
    • Can you reccomend a KZhead channel that shows how practicioners of each style can use skills and technique from all the other grappling styles to fill the gaps in their grappling game?

      @cgiles9086@cgiles9086 Жыл бұрын
    • @@cgiles9086sambofusion9486

      @rodrigovela6117@rodrigovela6117 Жыл бұрын
    • Wrestlers who have experience grappling with BJJ students who have their basics down - generally have respect for it. The people who show disrespect for BJJ - are the ones who have zero experience with it.

      @perfectsplit5515@perfectsplit55154 ай бұрын
  • 5:56 is so smooth

    @jon4226@jon42263 жыл бұрын
  • As a wrestler absolute respect for the jiu-jitsu guy going takedowns with the d1 guy. That was a superb performance. Obv a blackbelt should beat a d1 wrestler with little to moderate experience in grappling. The way the jiu-jitsu guy baited him into getting out of position was art. There's so much that can be learned from this video and I'm sure the wrestler enjoyed the experience

    @Bowamaketona@Bowamaketona3 жыл бұрын
    • Exactly why this is one of my favorite matches in the archive. You really get to see a lot of great grappling between two guys with completely different backgrounds. Just a great match all around.

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
    • Being 50lbs also helps

      @user-gb4zq9np7m@user-gb4zq9np7m3 жыл бұрын
    • @@user-gb4zq9np7m I don't care much about the weight and neither did the wrestler. The results would be very similar if the weight was the same. A d1 wrestler with not a lot of jiu-jitsu experience has little chance against a black belt. But a purple or brown belt d1 wrestler should be able to stop a black belt 6/10 times

      @Bowamaketona@Bowamaketona3 жыл бұрын
    • I wonder what goes through the mind of a wrestler when his opponent goes to the butt-scoot position?

      @perfectsplit5515@perfectsplit55153 жыл бұрын
    • @@perfectsplit5515 "don't extend your arms"

      @Bowamaketona@Bowamaketona3 жыл бұрын
  • Mad props to the wrestler on 2:46 U gotta have a lot of mental strength and patience to pull that off!!!

    @almondfreeman6278@almondfreeman62783 жыл бұрын
  • Houdini with the escape act, incredible!

    @riggsmurtah2788@riggsmurtah27883 жыл бұрын
    • Very impressive!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • You can tell the wrestler is a great attack wrestler. Set ups and takedowns were flawless.

    @steveniedowicz8335@steveniedowicz83352 жыл бұрын
  • Man he got heart fighting out of that backtake rear naked choke attempt..beautiful match very good both guys

    @dapras@dapras3 жыл бұрын
    • No doubt. I broke down some of the things he did technically to escape in another comment and plan to do a video breakdown during the month of June! Thanks for checking out the video and dropping a comment for the algorithm! 🙌🏼 helps the channel and the athletes in the video out more than most people realize!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • This is amazing just goes to show what happens when a wrestler dives into rolling. Division and Olympic wrestlers are a whole ass animal in themselves.

    @blakerussell4639@blakerussell46392 жыл бұрын
  • This was a great match. Both opponents deserve respect.

    @jonathanbarnes4597@jonathanbarnes45973 жыл бұрын
  • that flip around he did at the end with his legs was crazy

    @jackwellington8275@jackwellington82753 жыл бұрын
    • Well timed and executed sweep from the bigger man - Austin Baker! Mikey got a little overzealous in that position and paid the price. Excited to see a rematch between these two at some point down the road!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • Give that wrestler much credit. If he learns some more jiu-jitsu he will be a beast

    @michaelmckay3179@michaelmckay3179 Жыл бұрын
    • He is. Really solid MMA fighter on the cusp of getting his opportunity in the UFC.

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj Жыл бұрын
  • I wrestled in college and placed top 5 in the nation. When I go grapple, I usually handle the bjj guys. I just don't know many submissions. Wrestling translates extremely well.

    @chesterg.791@chesterg.7912 жыл бұрын
    • who cares

      @drobichaud1000@drobichaud10002 жыл бұрын
    • @@drobichaud1000 ☝️Suffers from low-T

      @chesterg.791@chesterg.7912 жыл бұрын
  • Absolutely beautiful to watch, and the commentary was informative and easy to digest for all audiences 👍🏽

    @braedenwilliams6339@braedenwilliams63392 жыл бұрын
    • Appreciate the kind words and the positive comment, Braedan!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj2 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome commentary and great match. I know grappling can be boring for your average person but matches like this with solid commentary are so fun.

    @ws8061@ws80612 жыл бұрын
    • Really appreciate that man! I love doing commentary and while I still feel like I have a long way to go to become the commentator I believe I can be - it’s nice to be recognized for doing something right 🙏🏼

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj2 жыл бұрын
  • 1:28 a beautiful leg sweep

    @mrd2392@mrd23923 жыл бұрын
  • I like how you can really tell which one the wrestler is just by his style and how he approaches everything

    @kickinwinghotboi883@kickinwinghotboi883 Жыл бұрын
  • Great effort from both. They kept going strong right to the end as they were both already exhausted from a whole day of rolling.

    @DP-dd6hl@DP-dd6hl3 жыл бұрын
  • Really good friendly match. While Austin did great and has really good submissions, I was very impressed by Mikey’s takedowns on the big buy and his defense of getting out of those chokes.

    @zaiah9252@zaiah92522 жыл бұрын
  • After wrestling and doing gi jiu jitsu I learned very quickly how important both are . Most importantly developing a hybrid . Learned a lot from the judo players as well . They have submissions and take downs you wont find in BJJ .

    @danadane2501@danadane25013 жыл бұрын
    • all 3 is best!

      @evision4418@evision44183 жыл бұрын
    • @@evision4418 I'd be more worried about someone is super good at one thing than okay at many .

      @danadane2501@danadane25013 жыл бұрын
    • Judo takedowns are such a great tool in the clinch their submission could maybe also surprise a pure bjj or wrestling guy. It's important to know all 3

      @erickirschenbaum2804@erickirschenbaum28042 жыл бұрын
    • @@erickirschenbaum2804 Yep , I was never an expert at any of these but I know all 3 . So it really helps when you're going up against higher belts or wrestlers that can practically hold a freightliner down .

      @danadane2501@danadane25012 жыл бұрын
    • Now just learn muay thai

      @DivineAtheistWannabe@DivineAtheistWannabe Жыл бұрын
  • Both amazing to watch. Can go either way every time. I loved watching GSP wrestle. He had it down perfect

    @jordanmaldonado1521@jordanmaldonado1521 Жыл бұрын
  • BJJ guy was bigger stronger taller and was able to just lift the wrestling guy when in dangerous position.. good sportsmanship great competition.. keep it up guys you both are high level

    @kvlife4265@kvlife42653 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for checking out the video and leaving a positive comment! Appreciate you!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj2 жыл бұрын
  • I've fought Austin a few x and man he is somthing special. Good all around guy.

    @Orrintl@Orrintl3 жыл бұрын
  • that was an awesome match -- these guys should become sparring partners for each other

    @kennethlundgren@kennethlundgren3 жыл бұрын
    • That would be awesome. Would love to see these guys tear it up in the training room too. That’s where you get the best footage! 🎥🚀

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • Nice channel. Long time wrestler too old to start Jujitsu but starting to watch it more. How come some matches are weight classes and some are not? Do they win the weight class and grapple for event/ open championship?

    @larrycarol6693@larrycarol66932 жыл бұрын
  • Great match. That escape and sweep to top at the end was magic.

    @brysonz@brysonz3 жыл бұрын
    • Austin is back this Saturday in both our Advanced Gi and No-Gi Absolutes! We’ll be going live Saturday at 9:30 AM central time if you wanna tune in and check it out 🎥🔥 guaranteed to be an awesome event!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • I feel like modern BBJ already incorporates lots of wrestling moves and principles. It's a great combination. Takedowns + submission = beast level. Of course if you are gonna be in the MMA, aside from tackling and submitting, you are gonna need to learn other styles that utilize punches and kicks.

    @rabbitazteca23@rabbitazteca232 жыл бұрын
    • proficient jab to keep strikers away (mayb a side kick too) and work on bringing them elbows down hard while on top and you should be fine..

      @soramirez5473@soramirez5473 Жыл бұрын
    • Takedowns plus submitting is catch as catch can wrestling .

      @Downey-2000@Downey-2000 Жыл бұрын
    • "I feel like modern BBJ already incorporates lots of wrestling moves and principles." BJJ comes from Judo, Japanese jujitsu, and Catch Wrestling. Esai Maeda was a Catch Wrestler, in addition to being a judoka. It is my understanding that later on, Carlson Gracie integrated wrestling into his version of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. Additionally, Rolls Gracie took up wrestling and he probably took content from wrestling into BJJ.

      @perfectsplit5515@perfectsplit55154 ай бұрын
  • Both of them are very technical, really good match

    @86Yaro360@86Yaro3603 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for checking it out and interacting in the comments! 🚀

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • The balance display on both of them is amazing, I would have fallen like a log.

    @hugoalju@hugoalju3 жыл бұрын
  • Well played match 👏 I love seeing that BJJ can bring together wrestlers, judoka, sambo and BJJ into formats where everyone can cross pollinate. I love all grappling!

    @rns7426@rns74269 ай бұрын
    • This is the right response!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj9 ай бұрын
  • Mikey is a stud and D1 wrestler. At that level those guys are “black belts” in base, scramble, hand fighting, escapes, pins, takedowns, grit, explosion, conditioning, mental toughness etc. they are used to no gi handles. Mikey is also an up and coming mma fighter. A smart grappler and a great guy. I’m a fan!

    @Tartaruga728@Tartaruga7283 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for the comment! Mikey is a great dude 🚀

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • I used to train mma with Mikey. Guy is a monster no cap💯

    @kelshawnz5382@kelshawnz53823 жыл бұрын
    • No don’t about it. They don’t call him the “Maniac” for no reason 😤

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • I’ve wrestled for 11 years and I can tell you right now it’s mental to get where you want to be.

    @DanielCrossBoss@DanielCrossBoss3 жыл бұрын
    • what do you mean?

      @xy5844@xy58443 жыл бұрын
    • @@xy5844 like how hard you practice and what your goals are affect where you end up that’s for a lot of things

      @DanielCrossBoss@DanielCrossBoss3 жыл бұрын
    • thanks for answering i follow wrestling and i enjoy it but im old and its hard where i live to find a gym that teaches this old art

      @xy5844@xy58443 жыл бұрын
  • Wow crazy how far wrestling can take you in a different sport

    @dont_trust_any1_even_ur_waifu@dont_trust_any1_even_ur_waifu2 жыл бұрын
  • That sweep austin went from sidecontrol on bottom to top mount in mid air.. THAT WAS INSANE!!

    @ModernBeastx1@ModernBeastx13 жыл бұрын
    • Regardless of the opponent - Austin is a high level grappler. Showed it once again in our most recent even taking Submission victories in all six matches along the way to capturing our Advanced Gi and No-Gi Absolute titles 🏆🏆

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
    • Lachlan Giles does this in one of his free KZhead videos. If you're really interested, let me know and I'll figure the link + timestamp. And yes, it's a really nice move.

      @anonymousreviewer169@anonymousreviewer169 Жыл бұрын
    • @@anonymousreviewer169 please do.

      @ModernBeastx1@ModernBeastx1 Жыл бұрын
    • "That sweep austin went from sidecontrol on bottom to top mount in mid air.." If he initiated it from the receiving end of sidemount, then it is not actually a sweep, but an escape.

      @perfectsplit5515@perfectsplit55154 ай бұрын
  • I think mikey would've won if body weights had been equal. But at the same time I really like that in sub grappling people are very loose with weight divisions.

    @dfpguitar@dfpguitar3 жыл бұрын
    • Hard to say if that is true or not, but like you said, it’s very common to see huge weight discrepancies in submission grappling - especially in this bracket. Our Absolutes draw athletes of all sizes!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
    • @@subspectrumbjj hard to say for sure yes. But that D1 status means a lot. Because even when a wrestler or judoka lacks the arsenal or finesse of a submission specialist, simple relentless pressure of being pushed, pulled, thrown and slammed can physically or mentally break a more skilled opponent. The wrestler having come from such an environment, is likely to have better raw strength and cardio too. If you take khabib for example, most his career has involved wrecking opponents with relentless takedowns, controls, trips and throws. The submissions he finally applied have never been things his opponents never knew how to get out of, but eventually they just give up.

      @dfpguitar@dfpguitar3 жыл бұрын
    • @@dfpguitar he would have won for sure if the weight was more even.

      @Treakerr@Treakerr3 жыл бұрын
    • @@dfpguitar ya but without his bjj knowledge He would've got submitted way earlier my dude

      @allrounder242@allrounder2422 жыл бұрын
  • Great match from both sides. Good work gentlemen.

    @racer89gt@racer89gt3 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks for checking it out and commenting! 🙏🏼🚀

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • It was just nice to see a video of a bjj guy that was willing to stand at all for once!! Excellent work for both of them in my opinion. The winner was just to big in my opinion.

    @bbkyjohnson@bbkyjohnson3 жыл бұрын
    • Too big and too skilled. The way he set up that last sweep was beautiful. Driving into Mikey so he would drive back in, switches directions, and SWEEP!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
    • @@subspectrumbjj he was just too big. Wth size comes strength. The wrestler could only do so much with his skills. I give all props to the wrestler, he didn't get tapped at all and he's a stud for going in there.

      @Treakerr@Treakerr3 жыл бұрын
    • Can’t deny the skills. Every time he made a mistake he made him pay for it. I saw someone mentioned 65 pounds as the tipping point for an advantage in grappling in another comment which is complete bs in my opinion. If that was the case then why are most weight classes about 15 pounds except for heavyweights? I’ve always been super impressed with the body control and flexibility of high level bjj guys. Bjj is a thing of beauty at high levels. I sometimes wish they would mix in more judo and wrestling takedowns as the 3 different skill sets seem like they would compliment each other extremely well?

      @bbkyjohnson@bbkyjohnson2 жыл бұрын
  • At this point, I have to wonder: what is jiu-jitsu? It's not a thing anymore, it's many things. Unlike amateur wrestling, which has much stricter rulesets, BJJ (and more importantly its practitioners) are happy to co-opt other styles and then call it part of their own jiu-jitsu. Wrestling techniques are now for wrestling AND jiu-jitsu. Or judo AND jiu-jitsu. Styles don't really mean anything anymore, and really have to wonder when "x vs y" will fade away as title names because they're already almost meaningless.

    @SwordTune@SwordTune3 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah, it does seem like styles don't mean much. It's just good grappling between two skilled athletes.

      @RedPilled-qj9mr@RedPilled-qj9mr3 жыл бұрын
  • The commentary on this match was exceptional.

    @laurencedeyn3526@laurencedeyn35263 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you! I really enjoy doing commentary and just this year have been able to get back to doing it. I personally feel like I still have a lot of work to do to be the level of commentator that I believe I can be but it’s nice to know I’m doing something right. Thank you for the kind words and for dropping a comment for the algorithm 🙌🏼📈🚀

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome match. This perfectly exemplifies the strengths of Bjj and wrestling with regard to their respective forms of control.

    @Bleachedhambone@Bleachedhambone3 жыл бұрын
    • We think so too! Thanks for watching and interacting in the comments 🚀 it helps out a ton!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • As someone that does jiujitsu I can’t stand how so many jiujitsu people immediately drop down to their butt and then scoot around.

    @dreamtobeapolyglot8444@dreamtobeapolyglot84442 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah , like , let's pretend getting a kick to the face is a possible threat. It makes the fight look dumb

      @TheAlgerietop@TheAlgerietop2 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheAlgerietop It's a sport, not a street fight.

      @bobbymccullough3210@bobbymccullough32102 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheAlgerietop Amazing logic there Algerie!! You know, the next time I have a Jiu Jitsu match I’ll start with a hook kick or a flying knee!

      @TheEuropeanTrey@TheEuropeanTrey2 жыл бұрын
  • D1 wrestler WITH BJJ experience against Brown Belt.

    @mattwestcigarreviews@mattwestcigarreviews3 жыл бұрын
    • Correct with like 12-18 months of BJJ Experience. The title is meant to keep it short & simple - providing enough context to interest viewers!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
    • There's also catch wrestling. Most D1 wrestlers have some submission experience.

      @thecasuallongsword@thecasuallongsword3 жыл бұрын
    • @@thecasuallongsword Plus the dude has been wrestling for 20+ years and doing BJJ for 12-18 months. If he was going to identify as anything it would be “a wrestler.” The “D1” provides context about the level of wrestler that he is.

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • Dang. That situp sweep was Week 1 white belt technique. Always cool to see the basics in competition.

    @AOMartialArts@AOMartialArts2 жыл бұрын
    • All about the basics 👌🏼

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj2 жыл бұрын
  • As a Muay Thai and Tang Soo Do Master, this is very new to me. I really enjoyed it! To my untrained eye, they seemed somewhat similar in technique. Thanks for posting.....Bill

    @bshadrick@bshadrick3 жыл бұрын
    • you have never trained muay thai in your entire life

      @timhamilton8723@timhamilton87233 жыл бұрын
    • Lol.

      @faisonfaison679@faisonfaison6792 жыл бұрын
  • That sweep at 5:58 is fire

    @juggernautmma42@juggernautmma423 жыл бұрын
    • He set it up perfectly too. Driving into Mikey knowing he would push back and when he did - sent him for a ride!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • good performance from the wrestler in spite of a big weight difference. How much jiujitsu training has he had before this?

    @elenchus@elenchus3 жыл бұрын
    • Probably very little we didnt try any submissions I'd love to see these divison 1 wrestlers train in submission wrestling The outcome would be very different

      @johnillingworth30@johnillingworth303 жыл бұрын
    • @@johnillingworth30 but he defended submissions very smoothly as well

      @elenchus@elenchus3 жыл бұрын
    • @@elenchus I agree

      @johnillingworth30@johnillingworth303 жыл бұрын
    • Most of these video headlines are misleading. Almost all of the matches the guys train at jiu-jitsu gyms but might have backgrounds in other martial arts. It is click bait.

      @shrimuyopa8117@shrimuyopa81173 жыл бұрын
    • He looks like he has had a lot of BJJ training before hand. Look at the way he's defending and look how smooth he is in these positions.

      @bane3991@bane39913 жыл бұрын
  • Great work from both competitors

    @Funkafella01@Funkafella012 жыл бұрын
  • Those standing trips by the wrestler are a thing of beauty.

    @gleep83@gleep833 жыл бұрын
    • He put on the clinic on the feet. And even on the ground he held his own and did a tremendous job defending the back and chokes. Especially when you see what Austin did in our most recent event - it’s truly impressive. Mikey England is no joke.

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • the takedowns by england were sick

    @Jake-oq2bq@Jake-oq2bq3 жыл бұрын
    • That chain wrestling was beautiful!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • What's the weight difference here?

    @josephklostermanjr.4687@josephklostermanjr.46873 жыл бұрын
    • Probably 50ish lbs. The cash prize Absolutes create some pretty crazy match-ups.

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
    • @@subspectrumbjj the wrestler was impressive despite the difference. Both amazing athletes for sure

      @josephklostermanjr.4687@josephklostermanjr.46873 жыл бұрын
    • That weight difference.... ouch

      @GallowsPole805@GallowsPole8053 жыл бұрын
    • @@GallowsPole805 That’s what you get when you enter the Cash Prize Advanced Absolute!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
    • @@subspectrumbjj yeah I know... he signed up

      @GallowsPole805@GallowsPole8053 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome, Do you have a video of the final after this match?

    @DOSEightyEight@DOSEightyEight3 жыл бұрын
    • Yes! We’ll be uploading that match here shortly so stay tuned!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
    • @@subspectrumbjj cool! Thanks for the quick response. Liked and subscribing.

      @DOSEightyEight@DOSEightyEight3 жыл бұрын
    • @@DOSEightyEight Of course! Thanks for checking it out and interacting in the comments! 🙏🏼🚀 It’s helps us out a ton!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • I was really impressed by the wrestler . They both did a great job and showed great skills.

    @drummaster755@drummaster7552 жыл бұрын
  • did really well against a 50lb disadvantage, next do 240lb div 1 wrestler against 190 lb bjj brown belt

    @kimberleyasselin8614@kimberleyasselin86143 жыл бұрын
    • That brown belt would get slaughtered if the weight classes were switched lol. Suplex city.

      @Treakerr@Treakerr3 жыл бұрын
    • I was wondering what the weight difference was, it clearly wasn't evenly matched in that regard. 50lbs is pretty huge.

      @lachlanbell8390@lachlanbell83903 жыл бұрын
  • Not talking smack at all. I'm really not. I'm actually a BJJ player, not a wrestler. But watching the BJJ guy butt scooting and pulling guard in order to avoid wrestling with the wrestler, while it is a smart thing to do, it just highlights to me how the BJJ ruleset handicaps wrestlers. Reminds me a bit of Floyd Mayweather using boxing rules to escape every compromising position Conor McGregor put him into, which, in any other set of rules, would've led to a complete mauling.

    @Phelly2@Phelly23 жыл бұрын
  • Great match guys good work keep it up hope too see you make some money soon

    @rather8948@rather89483 жыл бұрын
  • Two great competitors 👏👏👏

    @larryzeka5011@larryzeka50113 жыл бұрын
  • A D1 wrestler is a black belt level grappler

    @vutran3758@vutran37583 жыл бұрын
  • Imagine the match if they were the same size.

    @DC-kj3in@DC-kj3in3 жыл бұрын
    • What do you think would happen? This is the game you play when you enter the Sub Spectrum Absolutes!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • Career Wrestlers will almost always top other styles. Throw submission work on top of that and you have a very dangerous opponent. This guy will be scary in the future.

    @atilax6452@atilax64522 жыл бұрын
  • that dude escapes chose chokes so easily. It takes so much skill and knowledge to get out of those.

    @barcalona55@barcalona552 жыл бұрын
  • Nice to see Mark Kerr found the elixir of youth

    @zane2664@zane26643 жыл бұрын
    • 😂😂😂

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
    • I thought the same thing Smashing machine jr

      @ddave7026@ddave70263 жыл бұрын
  • I started realizing I’ve been doing 2 different Jiujitsu styles...one for sport and the other for self defense.

    @shoto520@shoto5203 жыл бұрын
    • Exactly. It’s possible to train and compete with two different styles for different kinds of competition or emphasis.

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • Is this is a sub only rule set? Didn't see any points for e.g. back control.

    @Mulligatawney@Mulligatawney2 жыл бұрын
  • I was waiting for some underhook throws or some throwing the legs in on top from the d1.

    @heatto162@heatto1622 жыл бұрын
  • This is not wrestling verse bjj. These headlines are lame. Great match tho

    @adamkhan4451@adamkhan44513 жыл бұрын
    • You likely wouldn’t have stumbled upon the match without the click baity title. More people watch the match and interact in the comments thus pushing the video to a much larger audience than if the video was simply titled “Mikey England vs Austin Baker” - in the end, more people see the match and thus more people know these amazing athletes names.

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
    • @@subspectrumbjj fair enough. appreciate the honesty

      @adamkhan4451@adamkhan44513 жыл бұрын
    • @@subspectrumbjj that's why I clicked

      @ladev91@ladev913 жыл бұрын
  • Jesus saves. Love you guys.

    @bluegorilla1006@bluegorilla10063 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks man

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • I've always heard the jiu jitsu community is small, but I didn't expect to hear the name of someone I've rolled with as a previous competitor in this tournament, lol. Jesseray Childrey (sp?), prior to Covid he was occasionally at our school during the no-gi. He's an absolute beast. He was probably giving me 5% effort and crushing me.

    @mattmgarza@mattmgarza2 жыл бұрын
  • For a total noob do you suggest bjj first and add wrestling to compliment or Vice versa

    @AB-ou5qc@AB-ou5qc2 жыл бұрын
  • I’ve seen more exciting chess matches

    @dougweaver5456@dougweaver54563 жыл бұрын
    • Congratulations lol go watch chess.

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
    • I’ve seen more exciting choreographed movie fights. I watch actual competitions so I can see what is realistic, rather than what is exciting.

      @perfectsplit5515@perfectsplit55153 жыл бұрын
  • The knee tap was beautiful that's what wrestling is all about ❤

    @atillagamercheto9132@atillagamercheto9132 Жыл бұрын
  • 2:36 why does he fight off the left leg instead of trying to fight the hands? Sorry if it's a stupid quest just a curious white belt.

    @roxanna1971@roxanna19713 жыл бұрын
    • No stupid questions man. Thank you for asking and giving me a chance to analyze the position to give my opinion about why he would have done that. In that position if he begins to address the choke, his hands are occupied and unable to be used for anything except defending his neck. Austin was already sliding off the back and although the choke looks deep, if Austin cannot maintain the chest to back connection, it’s very unlikely he will finish the choke. Austin committed to the choke instead of the seatbelt giving him less overall control. The position and movement of Mikey’s shoulders is already disrupting the chest to back connection that Austin needs to finish the choke. Because of that shoulder movement and positioning he can dedicate his efforts to fighting the hook coming over the top and to his far hip because without that hook Austin is unable to regain the chest to back connection that is required to maintain control and finish the choke.

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • Always interesting when BJJ competitor competes against a wrestler and the BJJ uses a lot of the moves that originated in wrestling, like the double-hooks and riding from behind.

    @joshuabunkers1494@joshuabunkers14942 жыл бұрын
  • This is what it’s all about!! Great match

    @conorsreps5265@conorsreps52653 жыл бұрын
    • Truly a great match. Thanks for checking out the channel 🙏🏼🚀

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
  • Can someone explain me the ranking in American wrestling ? What’s D1 ? National ?

    @kumo3425@kumo34252 жыл бұрын
    • There’s probably somebody who could explain it better, but I’ll do my best. Thank Division 1 is the highest level of collegiate wrestling and includes the top 75 or so college programs. Below that is Division 2, Division 3, NAIA, Junior College, etc.

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj2 жыл бұрын
  • no points for the back take with both hooks in and stabilized? Is this a sub only tourney or something?

    @jtms1200@jtms12002 жыл бұрын
    • Similar to ADCC rules where the first half of the match is unscored and submission only and the second half of the match is scored.

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj2 жыл бұрын
  • Even doe the size played a big difference in the grappling match but props to both guys doe. They were like two tigers going at it.

    @ButtsandFarts@ButtsandFarts2 жыл бұрын
  • 2:01 - When I do hip-bump sweep, I like to sit up as high as possible while still keeping my guard closed. Ideally I would maintain chest-to-chest pressure during that part of the transition. In principle, I would not unlock my guard until after I have placed my left hand on the mat to post (like Austin is doing). I dislike unlocking my guard first and then sitting up. (Some teachers teach it that way???) I fear that if I do it that way, then it gives uke a chance to create space, which makes the move less powerful.

    @perfectsplit5515@perfectsplit55154 ай бұрын
  • I don't understand. Do wrestlers do submissions? What was this for?

    @arambrown9116@arambrown91162 жыл бұрын
    • Mikey, a Division 1 wrestler with about 12-18 months BJJ experience, entered our Advanced No-Gi Absolute (open weight, open rank) and made it to the semi-finals where he faced off against Austin, a BJJ Brown Belt.

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj2 жыл бұрын
  • I don’t grapple, but liked this video - commentary was good at explaining what was going on 👍

    @mizu1000@mizu10002 жыл бұрын
  • Would be interesting to see a more even sized match up.

    @bobbydabutcha@bobbydabutcha2 жыл бұрын
  • Great upload, great match. Mikey's a stud for sure. Title of the vid is fine, no need to mention weight, but you should address discrepancy in the description.

    @yessum15@yessum153 жыл бұрын
    • This is our Advanced No-Gi Absolute, so almost every match has a weight discrepancy. Last event we had a match that was 170 lbs vs 330 lbs 😳

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj3 жыл бұрын
    • @@subspectrumbjj Lol u people are maniacs 👍

      @yessum15@yessum153 жыл бұрын
  • Great commentary 👌

    @pdeezz@pdeezz Жыл бұрын
  • This Baker guys sweeps are insane

    @solomondraws9698@solomondraws9698 Жыл бұрын
    • He’s a beast!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj Жыл бұрын
  • im a 210 lb blue belt and i often think id like to add more wrestling to my skill set we did have wrestling classes at one point but its gone now

    @Crystals10000@Crystals100002 жыл бұрын
  • phenomenal!

    @andym1594@andym15943 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for checking out the match and leaving a positive comment. Appreciate you!

      @subspectrumbjj@subspectrumbjj2 жыл бұрын
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