Do you really own what you buy? And why is it so damn hard to repair your phone?
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0:00 Right To Repair Intro
3:27 They Want Control
8:08 Anti-Right To Repair
12:45 What's Happening in Tech
18:03 Conclusion
The Right to Repair Movement: www.repair.org/stand-up
Farmers hacking their John Deere tractors: • Farmers Are Hacking Th...
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I too agree that we should be allowed to take things apart.
what's up with all the verified channel commenting at the same time like bots ???????????
You murder phone's 😝
The teardowns are so enjoyable, and they can only happen when you take things apart. Keep up the great work!
Jerry!
Already have been doing that with my life, sadly..
Let's go bois!!!!
LETS GO
hi lanus
oh look it's Linus Drop Tips
Linus sus
shush
Apple: We stopped giving you chargers when you spend $1,000 on our phones because...we love the environment. Also Apple: We made it almost impossible to replace a screen on an otherwise fine phone because...we hate the environment?
Exactly what I thought of. They are incredibly hypocritical.
@Cnb Cnb I agree with you but it's not like samsung is much better
@@tonytomato100 samsung is not the only phone that isn't iphone
@@tonytomato100 get more bang for ur buck with samsung though
@@MrKobus-rz4qy no you don't. samsung is literally the iphone of the android world
“Imagine you have a job that requires drug testing and you quit the job ……… and they still try to test you for 5 years” my god. How can apple even legally attempt that?
Cuz you gotta agree with them on this terms or else no certification for you.
Because you had access to the terms of use prior to the purchase, and at the time of purchase; and every opportunity to not buy an apple product. You could’ve gone Sony, Nokia, the Google backed phone, or any other non apple product.
@@bobroberts2581 This statement is referring to apple doing inspections up to 5 years after being an AASP, which is ridiculous, and had nothing to do with purchasing their product on a consumer level.
@@big_matt3496the shops literally sign off and agree to this term though? It’s a terrible analogy.
Apple are like that- I keep running into people who have business dealings with Apple and hate the organisation with a passion.
Louis Rossman getting the recognition he deserves. That guy is fighting for all our rights
Yes sirrrr
As much as I respect, Louis, he's not exactly an amiable person. This movement will probably not pass if it doesn't get well-liked personalities advertising it to the ignorant masses. Remember the Amazon unionization efforts?
Louis is legend.
The guy who hated on the M1?
@@VenemiesTech why not? Good chip, shit repairability.
18:49 Man that killed it. Thank you so much for covering this. This was beautiful. I completely get that lots of people consider youtube their profession, and their job - and rightfully so, you all do amazing work. and that making a video like this can make it more difficult to get access to products or early looks at products into the future, given almost every company has a very anti-right to repair stance. I can't tell you how much I appreciate you putting your living on the line to talk about this. I hope others appreciate it too. THANK YOU!!!!
I was waiting for your comment 😅
Louis Rossmann
There he is
Thank you as well for looking out for us!
He finally showed up!
As far as John Deere goes, a friend of mine had an issue related to the electronic control system, ecu, pcm, whatever you want to call it. JD gave him such a hard time that he came to me and had me build an open source ecu to control the entire tractor (Speeduino based). It gave him complete control over every aspect of that damn thing and JD is not happy. Now his warranty was just about up and doing something like this will void your warranty, but if done right takes the piss outta some of these companies
do you happen to have the page where this open source is available at?
Well not all of us are lucky enough to have geniuses such as yourself as friends to fix our tractors lol
@@willissudweeks1050 so instead of asking me how this whole deal works, and maybe taking back control of the machine I'm assuming you bought, from a company like John Deere that is actively screwing you over, you decided to give me shit. I posted that comment as an anecdote that might show people in these situations, that there are ways to get around these companies blocking you from fixing - modifying- or doing whatever the hell you want with your property. These bespoke computer systems, embedded software, systems etc... are just control systems that can be replicated. The automotive aftermarket has been doing this forever with standalone computers to control engines, transmissions, and even modern vehicle LAN systems. These allow people to ditch restrictive or feature poor factory units for something more advanced that gives the user access and control over every system from fuel to emissions controls. I understand how frustrating what these manufacturers are doing is which is why I learned how to get around it. I'm not a genius I just knew there was more than one way to skin This particular cat, plus I'm not rich.
It's kinda creepy if company calls you one day and says "hey we know what you did with your product."
ya idk why mkbhd is defending tesla for "safety" that's just scummy manipulation tactics from tesla to discourage people from modifying their cars, also on the JRE Elon said that he is fine with people modifying Tesla's but tesla the company has not always backed his claim and that's just shady
this video isn't company friendly. it's consumer friendly. respect for sticking up for the people.
Think it was rather trying to find a fair middle ground.
Lol he didn’t do anything or say anything until Linus tech tips made his video. He’s a company shill so he tried to avoid saying anything until now.
and he could just as easily not have made a video about it, or spun the video in a way that sympathizes with companies and their capitalist practices. instead he talks about how these laws are so shitty for the planet and the consumer. not sure how middle ground this appears - you're either pro consumer or pro company, there's no in between since each of their interests are directly opposed to each other
@@trickord1877 well said.
@@camtwan1 That doesn't make any sense. He didn't have to make this video at all...
This is huge. Influencers using their influence to bring a change, for the better. Massive props to Louis, Linus and Marques!
Shout out also to Rich Rebuilds, arguably the guy who started the right to repair movement
Now brands have to follow up
I mean, that is their job. It's others that are doing it wrong
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I wanna open my iPhone without breaking the warenty
As a former kid who used to and now an adult who still loves to take everything apart, I agree that we should be allowed to fix our stuff. Thank you for mixing in discussions about these important issues with more reviews of the next piece of tech.
This guy literally made a video that can potential hurt him from getting early access on new products. Instead of thinking of himself and his channel, he chose to talk about a topic that has to do with the people. Massive amount of respect.
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@@AgentSnapMi ye hindi me comment kyon kar rae lol
@@MayankJairaj just for fun bruh 😂
Let's be real. It's very hard to get on Marques bad side. And even if company did, he'll just buy the stuff himself.
True, although if I was already a multimillionaire (heck, even one million would do), I'd do the same thing. It could potentially hurt me economically, but my life is already economically set, so why wouldn't I do what's actually important? Plus this will not really bring Marques' channel down or his viewed down. The worst it could do is to not get him even more views/money, for some videos when there's an unique new device, but when you make probably tens of thousands of dollars monthly, there's no real reason to make even more while not speaking up about truly important things. Because if someone in his position did that, sacrifice his integrity for even more money - that would indicate a pathology, a pathological relationship with money, I think (today even billionaires always want more, and this is just sick, literally sick).
When Louis, linus started talking about this. I honestly thought you and others won't speak on this because on the dependency getting new products early etc. But getting your voice out on this, has raised my respect for you tremendously. Watching you from 7 years, won't stop ever
This 💯💯💯💯
Now if we can get different OS on our devices, postmarketOS or Ubuntu Touch running our devices (like the devices that don't get updates anymore).
an over 10 million subs channel doesn't "depend" on early models lol. of course they'd prefer them but I'm sure people would be willing to wait a little to get to see the MKBHD version of the video
tbh it is Apple's to lose if Marques boycotts their brand over any bullshit that they may try over him speaking up for these topics. He could rip Oneplus apart, hang em to dry but they'd still send him their flagship weeks ahead of schedule. MKBHD is larger than KZhead and they won't miss out on this free advertising for anything!
Sorry this is not an attack on Apple video... no other company is better Samsung, Microsoft, Google are all the same... so sorry but exclusive Apple haters like louis don’t deserve any credit...
You should be very proud of this video, Right to Repair bill has been just passed in New York city and it's on track to become law. This video was very informative, as are all your videos, & clarified what's really at stake. Thank you !
The "because of safety" excuse is the exact same excuse like the "there is no room for a 3.5mm jack" YES THERE IS. YOU DESIGNED IT SO THERE IS NO MORE ROOM. A guy on youtube even returned a 3.5mm jack on an ip8 if I remember correctly, even though there "is no room"
Say it louder for people in the back! Thank you!
MKB let’s discuss Rich Rebuilds X Waveform podcast Collaboration 🗣
I was really expecting MKBHD to interview you, I mean Vice did.
@@alexw9923 they have probably never been touch with each other
Lord Elon can’t hear you from Mars
You're the best Rich! Keep at it!
MKBHD Legal Eagle Edition
More like Viva Frei, legal eagle is wrong half the time.
Cocktail
smile
@Jeffry Chen I think that's your own bias my guy. I watched both, legal eagle gets way more political and Viva even called it that Legal Eagles case would fail on his legal action (an it did, after the guy asked people for money for a case doomed to fail). His breakdowns are far more thorough to me and Robert Barnes is definitely political when he has him on, but he's got a very strong understanding of the law.
@Jeffry Chen wdym, he is actively biased against Trump when he shouldn’t be
Man, I love the intelligence of this without the emotionalism and sensationalism that is all too common these days
Thank you for covering this movement, it's incredibly important !
Marques rides with Rossmann... Today is a good day
Difference is one doesn't simp over everything Apple
Boom
@@only4hw SnazzyLabs is my go to Apple guy who knows more than Marques about Apple.
Same thought crossed my mind. Love to see more people join the movement after those unsuccessful attempts in the past.
Why, then, doesn't he tell his audience how Apple actively blocks refurbished screens. He keeps bringing up replacing a screen. When it comes to other things, he suggests that repairing them becomes harder. What about the camera module on the latest iPhone? Switching it out disables the camera app. It's Apple-locked.
Who tried to photocopy money after watching this? Lol
*The guy below me is gay.*
I will after this vid😂
@@nabihhashmy9224 you ok bro?
@@nabihhashmy9224 i also agree . - .
@@askeladd9941 not gonna work... It never did and it never will.. for obvious reasons 🤣
"Just keep using a thing as long as it works." And now I'm subscribed. Really nice to hear that sentiment.
The problem of viewing an increase in quality with an increase in complexity is that the complexity is not from quality, the complexity is from Apple and similar companies realizing that minimalist aesthetic drives profits. There is nothing saying that your Iphone couldn't be 5% larger and use the extra space to make the components much more reparable. And not only that, there are videos out there showing that if you take two identical IPhones and swap the screens and logic boards in them, they gain artificial glitches and malfunctions because Apple has installed serial numbers into the software of the phone that allows it to detect when anything has been swapped, even for identical apple produced parts. All those glitches and malfunctions seem to magically go away when you put the factory parts back in. The increase in complexity is not an accident and it's not from quality. It's done on purpose solely to drive profits.
Don't you hate it when your dinner chair broken and you have to buy a new 800k house instead of 2 dollar screw and anything that can screw it in
good reference
Future us, if this idiotic trend continues: I miss the old days, when all you had to do was only buy a new $10,000 dining room set.
What a nice example! You nailed it!
Ha. I saw a video recently of a 3D printed house, where a few bits of static furniture were printed as part of the structure. Seemed cool... Now you have me thinking; especially if the houses were mass produced for an estate/project, where the developer might have control over utilities etc.
Irony ! 😂
You made perfect sense for this. We don't feel like we are customers anymore, more feel like we rent their products.
You will own nothing and you will be happy. That's their mission.
@@karo3529 It seems to be working.
So true, customer only get the service of using the product (whatever this might include), instead of owning the whole product including the materials and software. E.g. a washing machine would sell clean laundry and the manufacturer repairs it, sends over new washing powder, etc. But we should decide on it, right?
Yeah, we've been renting their products ever since "subscription" based services
@Eli Santiago well yeah come on guys we have to agree with him to a certain extent
Your ideas get better, this video definitely need more and more support. Right to repair!
Great video and take! Right to repair! Love the honesty and information given.
Don't usually leave a comments on KZhead, but here's one for recommendation algorithm. We need more people to be aware of this.
Most definitely agreed
@ɮօʊռċɛ օʄʄ 😂
Agreed. This video among others confirms again and again he has integrity and that his opinions on products can be trusted. That’s such a rare thing in a time where many just want free product or a paycheck.
I feel like it would of been good to have mentioned the software locks on Apples iPhone, especially since they disable certain functions even when using genuine parts. Overall the video was entertaining and the right to repair issues where well covered.
Sorry, which software locks? (Genuine question)
@@koldobika_ You can't replace any part that can contain a chip without having a hacking device to change its ID so that it works *fully (even if it is original) this includes screens, batteries, cameras, maybe charging chips. Check Hugh's channel to learn more :)
@@koldobika_ if you replace a part on certain phones, it won't work because the IDs don't match. Even if it's an oem part from another iPhone
@@koldobika_ if you use a non original screen or battery or whatever to fix an otherwise functional IPhone, iOS will lock the device and prevent that part from working (touchID was famous for this on replacement screens)
@@koldobika_ example, True Tone. Non genuine screens are restricted by iOS to use True Tone
It's kinda funny to think about Tesla wanting you to go to a Tesla certified body-shop for a Tesla quality repair, when they are at least anecdotally know for bad panel alignment
Marques thanks for bringing this subject to your massive audience. This definitively bring more light tot he subject.
Worked at the Genius Bar and had to turn down customers over the simplest repairs bc I wasn’t allowed to do it and instead was told to push selling a new phone or I’d get in trouble. I’m so glad you are talking about this.
It makes more money selling a new phone because of how big there margins are. For instance an OLED panel cost $8 an inch to make and they can sell you a complete phone for $1000.
Capitalism is amazing, right?
@@ArthurD it's not capitalism bruh
so do you want to make money repairing phones with salvaged parts or selling phones as a whole?
@@emmanuelchavez7748 then what is it
I miss the good old days when you can just replace a phones battery within 20 seconds on your own and it never costed you a bomb.
I agree, at the same time i like my phone water and dust resistant.
@@OhneMehrwert case that shit then lmao
@@OhneMehrwert There are phones that have both. It just has to do with how it fits together.
Your battery order is in, sir. That'll be one bomb, please. Sure thing! *Digs in pockets* B O O M ! !
@@rustyshackleford5166 it’s your responsibility to get a good battery and replace it properly. with good documentation and official parts you won’t have any problems. Can’t remember any cases of Galaxy s5 being exploded because of battery that was in.
I love how well balanced this take is
Thanks for covering this MB.
Got to love how MKBHD is a fan of Apple and Tesla... But, won’t hesitate to call them out on their bull. 👌👌
The obvious has to be said.
@socialism is for wannabe slave owners 🤫
@socialism is for wannabe slave owners Why are they awful exactly?
@@shobadidobadi7662 not everyone wants their products. They are basically 'muh premium' brands.
@@shobadidobadi7662 If you want body panel gaps, constant system bugs and very overpriced stuff that is.
In a colossal win for the Right to Repair movement, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has published a statement where it unanimously approved the prioritization of aggressive action against manufacturers who impose unfair repair restrictions on individuals and independent repair shops. We need to push to make this a law of the land!
most recent MKBHD vid: Apple announces right to repair program haha
Dude it’s so awesome to see a massive creator talking about this! Thanks for another great video my man!
This is unrelated but I made a video on THE new AirPods 3 pro CLONES and how to get them there amazing I swear
@@yrsdior1324 shut up
Why do you not have an official check by your username?
Linus did it before
It is awesome and it’s a rational take on the situation just like Rossman has been arguing for years. If enough people become educated on this issue companies like Apple will either give in either voluntarily or be forced to do the right thing via new legislation. It would be in Apple’s best interest to do the right thing before they’re eventually forced to.
this is so cool! you should make a part 2!
thank you for covering this...
Great to see more coverage of this topic 🙌
hi big fan
@@pancak3 I'm a big fan of pancakes, so you could say I'm a fan of you too!
@@JarrodsTech :D
lol. This is why I am subbed to this man. Who doesn't like pancakes.
@@itspumpkin276 yas
My great grandmother had a sewing machine that outlived her and her children. It sits in my mothers house now.
yup! I’ve had 2 modern machines, all bit the dust, all cost more to fix than a new machine. Now I bought a mechanical machine from the 50’s and have never been happier.
@@iii___iii Scarcity? in the 1800's of America things were hardly scarce in the way you put it... We had our wits about us and what are machines should do, to serve its purpose for a long time. Now? they break so you buy a new one, to keep a companies quest for greater profits going. Green paper, go figure.
Joel, but no USB ports... so hard pass :P
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp lol think what you want but its more about capitalism and greed and less about people having their wits sell you a product that'll last forever and now you're not a repeat customer lol. Seriously did you know un 1917 only 20% or less of vehicles ran on gas ⛽ most cars and buggies were electric or steam powered what happened was the rich and powerful had something to sell and had a business and bottom line to maintain the environment mother nature and us the consumer are always secondary to profits
And that machine has moving parts which makes it even more impressive.
Dude you are the FIRST reviewer brave enough to do this kind video. Thank you so much. I'm subscribed.
Great job on covering this sir.
Louis Rossman's summary is so important. It's ok for the tech to get smaller and more challenging, but it's not ok that manufacturers are contractually forbidden from selling their parts to end users. Then you can't step up to the challenge even if you want to.
The best explanation I heard was the car comparison. If you have a car you clearly expect to be able to change the tire. But with apple, you get a notification after you change your tire and tell you that its not going to work anymore because apple didnt replace it.
They also have two "arguments" about this: 1) user does not know if that is "genuine" part 2) it's safer when manufacturer does it. And I have answers to those: 1) so sell those parts in your official store, Apple 2) Two things: a) apple is not the real manufacturer of those, it's usually some company in China, b) Samsung Note7 exploding battery, which was "genuine"
I’m glad the bigger creators are adding a voice. It’s felt like Rossman’s been fighting on his own until recently.
Rossman has been going at this for years. I remember just a few years ago, you could easily find a new battery to your phone if it crapped out (Galaxy S4 for me). Now? It´s basically impossible. Why? Because the battery is the first thing to normally give out (a few hundred charge cycles) which means you have to buy a new phone or pay 10x the cost for having it replaced.
ive been subscribed to rossman since 2016 and poor guy has been fighting this battle alone for like 5 years hes an absolute madman to keep going like this and i respect the hell out of it
@@timothytim1053 I know! Those were the days. I remember having a Samsung Galaxy J7 V and the battery died on me once and then I replaced it.
@@timothytim1053 Never a problem to me. I have a trick that opens up fragile smartphones like recent samsung phones without damaging them. You just need to git good at repairing.
@@jamirvillarosa7924 There's still no excuse for gluing the battery in. Feels like it is intentionally difficult to replace in some phones now.
Heard of this guy. First video I've watched. This is the best side or you you tube. I learned a lot and I ain't tech savvy. Good quality content. ☺️
As a family farmer and former John Deere dealership employee, yes this has been a huge concern and issue for local farmers around where I live. To the point that many are switching to different colored tractors.
I am a simple man. I saw Louis Rossman’s thank you video, clicked on yours, and liked and watched the whole thing. You deserve it, and thank you.
guess i'm a simple man as well cause I did the same
Me as well. We need more of these big channels getting in on this in order to spread the word about what is happening.
just commenting for the algorithm have a nice day
Same :-)
Same louis is the 🐐
The existence of Ifixit and how it was born is a living proof of how things started to go wrong over a decade ago
mate, ifixit's kits been savin my ass for a few years now.
Not necessarily; I think complex machines like phones and cars deserve to have repair guides regardless. Repair guides help average people without training, as an amateur mechanic I use them all the time
@@jamescartier8728 shop manuals for cars have been a thing for a very long time - and parts have been available, but the same downfalls exist with warranty voids. The only slight difference is the rarity of parts markups. Most parts aren’t quite as overpriced compared to the car itself while something like an iPhone screen might cost more than the phone?
Ethan screens cost more than a phone under who's quote is the question? Let's take Apple again as an example, they run their own repairs, they don't let others buy there components (like screens), Now it kinda narrows the user down to two options, - repair phone which is super expensive - buy new phone, even though it's only a Yr old - that new iPhone has all those xyz shiny features Apples interest to charge those extortionate prices is to force users into buying a new phone Like hell a piece of a device will cost more than it all sold together, (Srry if that's the point ya were already making and I misunderstood ;-;)
Things started to go wrong way before that though. In terms of general capitalistic trend, where profits mean more than what's actually important, humanity's needs themselves, healthiness of our food etc, intrinsic and planned obsolescence, environmental pollution etc.
This was a great discussion. Thanks for promoting the conversation!
The first hurdle which reduces your right is the way you pay for the item you purchase. As an example the leasing for cars will limit the amount of miles that you can do in a year. Because you are only allowed to use the car within certain limits and under certain conditions until you pay that symbolic last one dollar token. Small prints.
Let's not forget that it is not only about you repairing the device yourself at home, but that you can take it to any shop that you trust to make the repair.
It's about your choice: 1. Am I skilled enough to do it by myself. 2. Do I want to pay someone skilled enough to do it for me. 3. Or I don't want to repair and just buy new device.
I think this is the most important part. I don't want to have to buy all the equipment it takes to repair my device. But there are people and repair shops out there who will. Without competition, these manufacturers are just like the 19th century robber barons.
@@spicytuna62 additionally, if right to repair became more of a universal standard in tech, you could have local libraries buy up repair kits that they’ll lend out to you for free. There are already tool libraries in cities across the country that do this for larger tools.
Next up: MKBHD "my car is no longer supercharging" "I wasn't invited to the apple press event" "my farming business can't use their tractors anymore"
Unlikely as he is so famous, but yes that is what would happen to average Joe if he did that.
@@JosefHabdank well it already happened to other youtuber whom fixes teslas
@@danepher I don't think Tesla has a problem with criticism, but just don't mess with their software
@@thedon3043 yeah cut off the back half and make it a Truckla
@@danepher who?
This was one of the best videos I've watched this year
Marques, thanks for bringing this up. Maybe 1,5 yes ago I cracked a pixel 3a, but found it hard to find replacement parts. I considered looking for on eBay etc for comparable parts to replace at home, but felt concerned about quality & reliability etc. I live on the Dutch side of the border but had bought the pixel 3a at a German Mediamarket nearby where it was on sale, incl insurance. I took the phone in to get fixed and didn't hear back for a week. The call centre is all the way across the country in Berlin and it was "impossible to transfer me" but would make sure to call me back asap. I never got that call, but have continually called Mediamarket and the insurance company (who claim the phone is with the shop), and I have driven the 45 mins to the facility (when cross border & other COVID restrictions allowed) where they told me the phone is with the insurance company but that someone would call me the next work day "even I drop dead". All delays have been blamed on waiting for a shipment on parts. Maybe this ties in to the right to repair. Either way, I have been left with suspicion for insurance and the feeling that the whole system is rigged to rip people off. Is there anything I could have done?
Btw, I asked to just get the phone back broken and never got it.
Sry this is long and idk if marques will ever see this but I think it's weird that, if it really was this hard to get parts on a not old phone, that pixel bears some responsibility there, and that Mediamarket should not be offering insurance and accepting phone's for repair that they know they don't have parts for, especially without telling me it would take that long
YES HE'S TALKING ABOUT IT THANK YOU
I predicted this in Louis's discord with Linus and MKBHD name mentioned last month, muahhaaha. Also, I predict the first person to fly in a drone taxi in the US will be MKBHD. Ehang makes them.
As an Apple Repair Tech, this is incredibly accurate
your job is in danger.
@@adibero1757 it is not, even if we had perfect right to repair laws many people would still bring to apple
ok liar
Ya guys, my job is not in danger yuh degenerates 🤣
The job would only be in danger if Apple was able to dig into the YT account and had a way to legally fire Alan without making it obvious. We as a society are generally not that far down the road.
Good to find a good tech video that explains stuff in a way that people might actually understand
Once MKBHD says “let’s talk about that”, I know it’s gonna be a good video
Companies: We are going green Me: How about more repairable devices? Companies: That's not the green what we mean. We mean greenbacks
cough, double the packaging for phones and chargers, cough
The Part About ENVIRONMENT, Environment Is Not Harming From This Cuz, It's Not Impossible To Repair,it's Just Apple Wants To Repair Themselves, Cuz They Can Make Money. it's Not They Gonna Throw That Phone, They Are Repairing It Bro, So How's The Environment Argument Makes Sense
"Yeah, we won't let you repair your phone, but will let you buy the charging block separately."
@@farmansonde3503 when they charge half the price phone, most of people buy new one. that's exactly what they want
Literally nobody actually cares about "going green". They are just all pandering to those few customers who actually do.
This dude has met tim cook, mr musk and still has the nuts to talk the truth about their businesses
Even though he did meet with both of them, but whenever you see the interviews he never licked their butts.
That’s what made him so successful he is honest to his fans
I liked how u called"mr musk" like mr stark
Honestly he is like Linus, both are too big that companies can't choose to not give them the products to review, so they can say whatever they want, however with that said I still think that both are genuinely nice people that would say this stuff even if they were small.
Yes. You can like a product and dislike the company's business practices. I mean if everyone didn't use a product because they disagreed with the company's approach to making money, we would be living with zero technology.
Fav collaboration
Great video and great arguments! I had a faulty battery on my Galaxy phone and the authorized service told me I had to change the battery and the motherboard for a insane cost! I couldn't find a way of buying a battery or changing it anywhere other than the Samsung's authorized service.
This is important work. Big props for Louis and to the tech community for supporting him. We only get one planet.
First we need the right to repair. Companies are ALREADY very “green”
@@axea4554 Tech companies are Green? Wtf?
@@moritzklug1858 It was irony. Green as in green dollar bills
Right to Repair protects consumers, discourages monopoly power, helps reduce environmental tech waste, and pretty much gives all of us the chance to fix our properties without getting fleeced by "big tech". I've been following Louis Rossman for years and admire his activism on this issue, and MKBHD did a hell of a job getting the point across. Thank you both for your awesome work!
Why not just buy a different brand?
@@yamanosu9463 libertarian andy
glad to see another supporter
@@mahman543 Lol, that is a typical libertarian response. Gawd, I love libertarians. They just ignore history and humanity. As vankyre correctly states, rather than having stuff end up in land fills, most of these products can be good for at least 15 years or more with smart aftermarket refreshes or clever DIY fixes.
@@yamanosu9463 because 90 percent of brands are like this. Motorola is the only one I know of that'll sell original parts for reasonable prices
Great collab, and great discussion.
I agree with a lot of what you said. Here are my thoughts on the matter. Regarding the hazards of taking things apart; Yes it is "dangerous" to take electrical things apart, especially if it contains large capacitors that can store a lot of current. This is especially important when working on a power supply. The quick fix is having some basic information about electronics and the right tools. A person new to repairing could then read about how to safely discharge large capacitors and then it's perfectly safe to work with (when not plugged in a wall outlet). But here is the beauty of right to repair. If more people were more used to repairing their own equipment, they would share it freely on social media or other online platforms. Books are also a good source when it comes to repairing electrical devices. Tools are very cheap now and a lot of devices use SMD components that are soldered with hot air. It's do-able but takes practice to it yourself. I wish I could repair my own devices easier because I think I already create too much e-waste as things are now. It's so expensive to get parts that it's easier to just buy a new phone and it's sad. My dad's old computer was 25 years old when he retired it, and it was still working at that time. Now you can barely have any electrical device last more than 5 years. It can't be good for the environment. I think it's also up to us to settle with having an older phone model and not the latest tech all the time. The device is still serving a purpose. I dabbled with repairing my own things and sometimes I manage to fix it. I fixed my 10 year old television that was still going strong. I managed to fix it with the help of russian KZhead videos that was translated on the fly and I had enough information to repair my TV to a working state. I eventually replaced it but just repairing it added at least 2 years of it's life span. I took to a communal garbage disposal facility so it's taken apart and exposed of properly in a safely manner. Try to repair things before throwing them away is not only fun, but good for the environment. You are learning a new skill! What's not to love c'mon?!
I love this and everyone who supports Right to Repair. As a store owner and technician, I'm able to feed my kids along with giving them a roof over their heads and most importantly happy customers! I pride myself in the repairs we provide and the support we offer. Seeing huge KZheadrs and fellow nerds unite makes my heart warm. Thanks MKBHD
As a beginner at being a phone enthusiasts. I agree! not really into the software side of it, I'm only knowing the hardware, software experience, specs. I'm also going for laptops, earpods and other accessories.
U guys are G.O.A.T.S and deserve all the love, respect and praise y'all get and even more. Keep doing what y'all love and be great at it, I *seriously* respect people like Y'all🙏🔥
bro can you repair my Face ID? :(
@@chesareg8217 I doubt face ID is repairable as each Face ID setup is callibrated specifically for that phone, Something similar like Touch ID. Unless u haven't replaced ur screen u cant repair face ID
@@shakyawijemunilol it’s just the flex cable which is broken
I remember when Louis started talking about this issue years ago. So nice to have his voice being heard.
I know, it’s great to see! I was really hoping Marquez would show the video where the lady presenting “her” case on why RTR is bad kept giving fake reasons, and how Louis dunked on them.
BigCorp CEO - "we need to fight right to repair, what do we do?" "It's simple... Make things intentionally unrepairable!"
Great topic, well executed! Thnx for brining this to our attention. One more thought on your last point, companies invest so much on great engineers because they want to make everything more integrated, not just for the product to work better, but also to be more complicated to be repaired. I don't see any problem with a phone battery being removable, and can be easily done by the companies, but they give no proper explanation why that can't be done except maybe "waterproofing".
Except samsung and sony have made waterproof phones before with removable back covers.
Louis Rossman has really started a movement, it's about time people actually realise this. Also do check out the video on why mc Donalds ice cream machines are always broken.
Just remember that the ceo of MacDonalds doesn’t eat McDonald’s himself
@@shrikepsd so what? Bill Gates used iPhone and Mark Zuckerberg doesn’t use WhatsApp
@@shouryeningle3688 I know but consider that because why isn’t he eating it ? Maybe because of how they make it ? Maybe because of what is in it ? Food and apps or Electronics is something different
Too bad that video was done by a crackpot.
As a supplier of McD ice cream products I must interject, the ice cream machine typically isn't broken but the ingredients are out of stock. The mix is expensive and has a distinct shelf life so Just in Time deliveries are crucial and typically late.
Thank you for making this. Louis Rossman will be proud.
Was just thinking this! Dude has been ON IT with right to repair. The tech community owes Louis Rossman so so much.
@@TrevorX3 yes, we all do!
Big respect the Linus, Louis, and Linux, for inspiring this video to be made. Much needed!
And this shouldn't stop here, hopefully all major tech reviewers will team up and start a campaign to bring more awareness to it, and not stop with releasing videos and articles about it, but also sit down with legislators to force a change.
This movement has been a thing before that dude.
Well said, and well analyzed.
I really love this channel. Greetings from CDMX, it is really worth for my to see these tech videos.
Companies: I care about the environment, here's a list of things we've done. Also company: Create more waste in the background for money
Always watch what they do, not what they say.
they did nothing but skip straight to recycling and I wish they actually even recycle to start with.
Yea let's do this !!! Make me Rich man !!! 😎
@@Tanget360 Whenever Apple says it's using "recycled aluminium" or "recycled tungsten" I go like, 'Wonder where those metals came from. Definitely NOT from functioning Macs and iPhones that Apple forced recycling companies to shread' 🤣
@@jockeyjeon9532 which makes me wonder does apple audit their recycling partners? And how many devices can be saved or are still functional are actually sent to recycling? Is recycling existing products really sustainable? I mean isnt aluminum in recycled form a readily available material to procure? Plus how many of these products are actually recycled and how many are shipped from the recycling center to end up in a land fill in some 3rd world country?
You've got to love Louis. What a straightforward guy. MKBHD: great measured approach; great to hear more opinions on the topic.
I love Louis had been sub to him for many years glad you mention him and had talk to him
Great vid! Difficult topic.
In the UK, a new “right to repair” law is expected to be introduced this summer. Details are sketchy on which appliances are covered. However, it is proposed that manufacturers will be legally obliged to make spare parts for products available to consumers for the first time. A legal right to repairs in order to extend a product’s lifespan to 10 years.
That sounds delightful....But the flip side of that will be dramatically increased prices on the devices right from the start. If the manufacturer can't make their money that way anymore, they're gonna be looking to get all that money up front.
the thing is i dont think they will. some brands sure but ie if apple goes a lot higher (using them as the example cause they're the most likely to) but samsung stays the same (they've been selling oem parts for their phones for years), more of your average consumers will be buying the cheaper samsung phones which in turn could hurt business for apple
doesnt the uk law explicitly exclude tech and phone manufacturers ?
@@RoraighPrice The law was introduced on July 8 & you’re right it excludes smart phones & laptops. Extremely annoying.
@@brendanlawrence3624 then that means that that money was necessary and should not have been reduced primarily, for the environment. And these companies will raise their price if they want, but at the risk of a drop of their sales. And since slaes and prices are not linked linearly, this equation can be more complex than what you told.
I'm surprised you found a family friendly clip of Louis.
Lol! I thought that too!
lol
Nah, he isn't that bad 😂
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Louis is a boss ! 😎😂
I love the background for this video. Nice touch.
This was thought provoking… thank you for making this video!!
this was much needed 😀
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AAAAAAHHHHH!!!! PAAAAAIIIINNNN!!!!!! I broke my hand yesterday because of the hate comments I get all the time. I was so angry that I punched a hole in my computer. Please don't hate me, dear nima
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WAN time
Support the apple repair king who started this, Louis Rossmann ....and dont support apple, obviously.
Thank you for supporting Right to Repair and Louis Rossman!
im in canada...wish we had someone pushing for right to repair up here, feel left out! :(
@@absolutely1337 if it opens up in the US, it will lead the way here also. I do believe there is some work being done in Ontario but not 100% sure.
A really important cause and video. Great job!
lots of respect
I too agree that we need to have Right to Repair, because first at all we still Buy the products and not Rent the products. Repairing your stuff isn't something bad, we will have less waste around. But the problem with repair is that many companies are pushing high prices for the parts, I have seen a lot of waste because for many people is easier and cheaper to Buy a new thing instead to Repair it. I think the stuff around us should me more accessible and easier to maintain, right of repair is a right of someone's personal choice. Also right of repair should be a more moral question, If we repair something is that going to be safe and good for the others around, for the people, nature, etc. I'm very very glad because many started to talk about this 😀 I and I love how Marques and Louis talk open about this questions 👍👍👍
Right to repair doesn't mean that you have to fix the device. If you feel you cannot do it safely then you should be able to get it repaired by someone else. Unfortunately companies don't want those people to fix it for you because they want to sell you a new device, so they make parts expensive and difficult to get.
Absolutely love your repair and restoration videos, one of my favorite channels 👍
@@TheSkcube 'so they make parts expensive and difficult to get.' They don't _make_ parts expensive and difficult by themselves. As tech has gotten better and more sophisticated, parts have themselves become more expensive and difficult to get. I'm not defending any company here, just pointing out a flaw in your statement.
Well how about 🤔 ❓ 🤔 ❓ 🤔 ❓ Not using an iphone ?????? Im sure it will force apple to make changes. ..... they know you will still purchase . So why change when isheeps have peanut brain 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Not insulting anyone, just saying some people are not capable to think for themselves. Thats what apple taking advantage for. Honestly, if apple make reparing / customization easier i myself would use iphone. 🙃🙂🙃🙂
@@Tom_Stevens617 no my friend, they bar companies from getting a $5 part to independent repair companies and charge users $1500 to repair the same problem. When Linus wanted to get a replacement motherboard from Apple, they would only sell him a motherboard with CPU + RAM even though those were socketed and there was no need to sell those together as that were not damaged. He also had to pay $4000 for 3 parts when the device costs around $5000. The bill of materials cost of a device is not 4/5th of the cost of the device. I am not pointing out a particular manufacturer, just pointing out real world examples. Also another one, a company would not sell a $500 motor on an operating bed, did not allow the manufacturer of the motor to sell it directly to the hospital, but instead forced them to buy a new $10,000 operating bed.
"When you buy something, do you own it?" If companies had their way, _everything would be a rental subscription._ You don't need to look at the obvious suspects of Apple and John Deere. Look at Microsoft Office or G Suite. Look at everything made by Adobe or Autodesk. Look at every game publisher (except GOG) and every game console. _Your ability to use the product is ultimately up to the whim of the company._ There is a reason why tech pushed "as a service" nonsense HARD. Think about it, why would you spend money to innovate ever again if you can just extract rent for services people find essential and if you can simply force them to upgrade to a less functional product just to eliminate the competitors?
Just for clarity, a Publisher is different from a Storefront. GoG is a Storefront, CD Projekt would be the Publisher
But as a right, I don’t know about you but when I buy something it’s MINE!
You're just talking about software though. That's not really that relevant to this conversation. You don't "own" closed source software. You purchase a license to use that software. It is not a physical thing that belongs to you. Like you go around hating on capitalist pigs all you want, and I'm here for it, but what you're talking about isn't about right to repair.
@@slice-o-life You should read all those EULAs that you click the "agree" button on. They all clearly state that you don't own shit and you legally agree tovthose terms when installing literally any software.
Compulsory vaccines coming 👍🏽
I love this!! You went offff!! Alsoooo Max's comment has meeeeee 😂
Good and quite didactic video. I hope that matter evolves favorably for the users in the next years. Thanks
Built-in obsolescence is certainly something the general public doesn't know about and must be spoken about. Thanks for this video!
I know very much about this topic my friend. The public need to know and people like. Marcus are here to spread the word
It should be illegal tbh. Or at least liable.
Even my grandma knows about this. 20 year old washing machine replaced with one that didn't last 3 years, then it's replacement broke, but this time during warranty.
@@_BangDroid_ When old people say "they don't make them like they used to", they're not kidding.
Even in the US, my middle school taught us about the Ford system and then planned obsolescence.
Two words came in mind when i read the title: “Louis Rossman”
I thought the same!
Same
All hail Louis Rossman
The patron saint of repair!
Same
Thank for uploading this
Nice you took that stance on the topic.
I own a computer repair shop and I've been waiting for you to use your voice to help us. Google has recently destroyed my business now that they do not allow legitimate and experienced computer repair shops advertise to their local community.
How ? Can you elaborate please ? Thanks
@@luisfernando55 he literally said google will not run ads for repair shop anymore, so no one in his local area will go to him for repairs
Wow. This is a major comment that I could see a bunch of reporters should be talking to you about... say wired, or engadget, or... louis himself.
@@luisfernando55 i 2nd what Luis asked... this seems like a huge deal and well worth of a reporter to hear
@@bigchum3984 thanks, haven't used Google for that kind of advertisement, what about using facebook ? Thanks
I worked for Deere, in the corporate offices, they had many update events about this. They were very fanatical about stopping the right to repair on the new machines so they could push the services that came along with it.
Thar's why my uncles keep using pretty old tractors on their farms.They have 9 of them and they say will never buy newer models even if they are given 50% off.Plenty of second hand parts from build to last era.
They should just shift to strictly subscription model like the upstart Canoo. Then you can have no fear of future legislations regarding right of repair.
This is a touchy subject to me. You've earned the thumbs up!
Every time I watch you, I feel smarter. Great topic!