Rookie mistakes in techno

2024 ж. 18 Мам.
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Let's take a look at some techno tracks I made 10 years ago, and learn 4 lessons from them so you don't repeat the mistakes of my younger self 😂
(wow the noise examples really got mangled by the video codec, sorry!!!)
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Contents:
0:00 Intro
0:44 The three tracks
1:51 Lesson 1: Hear what you are doing
4:30 The low limit monitor test
7:43 Lesson 2: Clean up your low end
10:35 Lesson 3: Tonal balance
16:35 Lesson 4: Clarify the groove of the track
21:20 About making rookie mistakes

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  • Torc: soundcloud.com/torcaudio 🔥🔥🔥 Face the Sun: soundcloud.com/face-the-sun-be 🌈🌈🌈 Find Oscar's video courses here: courses.underdog.brussels 🖤🖤🖤 Join the Underdog Discord channel: discord.gg/z5N9CTA 👾👾👾

    @OscarUnderdog@OscarUnderdog2 жыл бұрын
    • Could u sometime base a track around Error Func, Flamingo zoom on lucidflow label love to get a understanding on what they are doing with the bass sounds and sharpness of the mids and what sort of sound design they are doing. Lucidflow label is amazing when it comes to production

      @Rex-dk1rx@Rex-dk1rx2 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah techno or GTFO. Great sound and always super insightful and engaging videos! Thanks for sharing them

      @MaceOjala@MaceOjala2 жыл бұрын
    • An important aspect of the Fletcher Munson / Equal Loudness curves, is that they are a DYNAMIC curve, in other words, our perception of EQ balance changes based on the listening level/SPL. It's important to check your mixes at levels that resemble the anticipated SPL the audience will typically experience.

      @boydw1@boydw1 Жыл бұрын
  • This guy is incredible, not spending too much time with all the small details or DAW technicalities, which we figure out either way, but teaching us the general principles and concepts of what makes a good track. Not only this is useful when producing, but even just listening to EDM, I can now hear what decisions the producer made to make the tracks sound great. Thanks Oscar.

    @bababodhi@bababodhi Жыл бұрын
    • Indeed, thanks a bunch ✌️❤️🙂

      @nu7m39.in.l0v3@nu7m39.in.l0v310 ай бұрын
    • Yes he is ❤

      @ricardojmestre@ricardojmestre9 ай бұрын
    • This is really great even at the frequency test. As a 49yo beginner I wonder if my hearing of high or low frequencies will effect the music I make. Only 1 BlackSabbath/Motorhead concert in my history 🤣

      @designzonebeats@designzonebeats5 ай бұрын
  • I’ve been producing for 10+ years and I still learned some things. The way that you’re able to express and articulate your thoughts is direct and easy to understand…Great content bro.

    @aerialgrey2566@aerialgrey25662 жыл бұрын
    • Producing since 1995 and those video are so much pertinent !

      @citizenoftheverse4653@citizenoftheverse4653 Жыл бұрын
  • This is the tutorial I needed 10 years ago... maybe I wouldn't have given up....

    @Nerdchacho@Nerdchacho2 жыл бұрын
    • It's never too late to try again bro

      @jajurrian@jajurrian2 жыл бұрын
    • lets give it another try man keep it up bro

      @ezerkilenc100@ezerkilenc1002 жыл бұрын
    • If you're watching this, I'd say you haven't given up.

      @chromosundrift@chromosundrift2 жыл бұрын
    • You can always try again

      @thewizard8955@thewizard8955 Жыл бұрын
  • Still hearing 30Hz, 27Hz was more like feeling than hearing :D

    @murat_buyuk@murat_buyuk2 жыл бұрын
  • Man, based on your early monitoring situation..I’m impressed!

    @mechanicom@mechanicom2 жыл бұрын
  • Another killer tutorial. When he's on his game, Oscar's doing the best Techno tutorials on KZhead.

    @twatmunro@twatmunro2 жыл бұрын
  • very cool, i love how roasting your own old tracks allows you to be critical without holding back - much more helpful than analysing other people's tracks where you naturally don't want to demotivate people

    @AlbertSirup@AlbertSirup2 жыл бұрын
  • Story of my life around 20 years ago in ReBirth and Fruity Loops - tracks I made are dry as Sahara sand - I wish I had back then all the resources that KZhead can give you today. But I hope for a new fresh start now.

    @kubagornowicz@kubagornowicz Жыл бұрын
  • That was an excellent video. I really enjoyed it. One other thing I have found helpful with building groove is prioritizing elements and then using notch EQ to cut out the strongest frequencies of your high priority elements in your lower priority elements. So for example if you have a clap that hits with a lot of energy at 800hz, and a noisy texture sound that comes in from say 400 - 4k hz then use an eq to cut a “dip” out of it around the 800hz mark. I’m sure you know this already tho :)

    @Luwispurpul@Luwispurpul2 жыл бұрын
    • I also knew, but this is a good reminder that i need to do this more often!

      @jokmenen_@jokmenen_2 жыл бұрын
    • This would be what trackspacer would do too right?

      @sinewaves1631@sinewaves16312 жыл бұрын
    • I sure did not know this. Thanks for sharing!

      @CatFish107@CatFish1072 жыл бұрын
    • Yep! You can notch and you can also sidechain so that every time that clap hits, the noisy texture slightly dips. I do both depending on the sounds being used.

      @aerialgrey2566@aerialgrey25662 жыл бұрын
    • Yes indeed. I think it is important to do the stuff that Oscar was talking about first. That way you probably don't need as much eq (ie shallower notches). This is where dynamic eq comes to the fore. That way the noisy texture (as you put it) is only affected when the clap hits. I always use dymanic eq and sidechaining for the Kick and Bass. It's like magic. Whomever invented it should get a Nobel Peace Award IMO 😄

      @keithjones3481@keithjones3481Ай бұрын
  • You're freakin fuckin amazing thanks for the quality content mate

    @pierrestachowicz5249@pierrestachowicz52492 жыл бұрын
  • You continue to give us gold - thanks!

    @prantorp@prantorp Жыл бұрын
  • I needed this 24 hour ago before i released my first Techno song 😂

    @BeingAMonkey@BeingAMonkey2 жыл бұрын
  • I remember discovering sidechain... it was gift from heaven 🤯

    @ravemealone@ravemealone2 жыл бұрын
  • 80 euros should be enough for a pair of MDR 7505 headphones. Mixing only on phones alone isn't great, but it's probably better than just bookshelf speakers. And then look at the spectrogram and compare to good mixes :-)

    @jonwatte4293@jonwatte42932 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you so much for your great tips always!!!

    @brutalkubi@brutalkubi2 жыл бұрын
  • Useful stuff as always

    @binsquirrel@binsquirrel2 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for sharing your early work, that takes a lot of courage! And great tips, as always

    @namyzarcmai@namyzarcmai2 жыл бұрын
  • Really all in in this video! Thanks! 👍

    @midcam@midcam Жыл бұрын
  • This video was bloody fantastic. Just what I was looking for! THANK YOU

    @dodogreners@dodogreners2 жыл бұрын
  • Been watching a bunch of your videos while beginning and learning how to create tracks (only about a year and a half experience). Thank you for what you do!

    @ikkoikki2773@ikkoikki27732 жыл бұрын
  • SUPER useful tips!! Thank you very much, you have a great way to communicate your knowledge.

    @riquelmista6153@riquelmista61532 жыл бұрын
  • You are the best! It's so easy to learn with you man!

    @andreglam1@andreglam111 ай бұрын
  • Great job, easy to understand, i learn a lot with your videos, many thanks

    @onito974@onito974 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video! This made me feel finally understand at least some basics. Now have to test it on my tracks 😁

    @dominikpoignee9297@dominikpoignee92972 жыл бұрын
  • Extremely useful info in this video and also in all your underdog clips from your channel. ❤

    @bricheag@bricheag9 ай бұрын
  • Super helpful! Thanks a lot!

    @GeekGearSynths@GeekGearSynths2 жыл бұрын
  • Useful as always

    @omojjegomosc8211@omojjegomosc8211 Жыл бұрын
  • I LOVE this!! ❤

    @interestedbystander196@interestedbystander1962 жыл бұрын
  • pls more Videos like this, this realy helps so much!!

    @TheDjAliceD@TheDjAliceD2 жыл бұрын
  • Your teaching style is next level. Clear and precise. You have helped me so much and I thank you! 😉

    @phantom-lab@phantom-lab2 жыл бұрын
  • Cool video. Been producing for just over a year and your videos and other you tubers sure help. Still learning but see progression in my soundcloud so good for you to share your earlier work to aspire others to get better.

    @Samivermusic@Samivermusic2 жыл бұрын
  • Really interesting and informative, learned a few things, Thanks!

    @mattster303@mattster3032 жыл бұрын
  • Absolutely the best electronic production channel on YT, always so clear and understandable in the way you explain everything! Keep it up!

    @ethanpreston@ethanpreston2 жыл бұрын
  • You are an amazing teacher and really great in explanations! ❤

    @noxyu3m@noxyu3m Жыл бұрын
  • I love your videos, big up!

    @grzesiek13307@grzesiek133074 ай бұрын
  • Always great advise, thanks :)

    @NIGH.NE.@NIGH.NE.2 жыл бұрын
  • Gold thanx mate🙏🏻❤️

    @mikroflake23@mikroflake232 жыл бұрын
  • What a great teacher you are!

    @myceliumtechno@myceliumtechno2 жыл бұрын
  • Just what i needed, thanks Oscar!

    @draganbevandic2859@draganbevandic28592 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you so much for this video !

    @goldwingdu44@goldwingdu4411 ай бұрын
  • Dude you are an amazing teacher, thanks for your work. Honest and clear.

    @carlosgil9886@carlosgil98862 жыл бұрын
  • Wow! I heard so many of my own mistakes in your examples Oscar! That groove tip is a game changer!

    @carlrowlinson2833@carlrowlinson28332 жыл бұрын
  • Each video I'm amazed at how much I can learn thanks to you. And I'm not even trying to produce music, but my listening experience is greatly enhanced - now, I'm gonna pay attention to the tonal balance of my favorite tracks for instance. Thanks !!

    @soifpls@soifpls2 жыл бұрын
  • Great tips!

    @ReasonStudios@ReasonStudios2 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for the incredible content Oscar! Best electronic music teacher I have ever listened to. (And please keep up the Reason videos!)

    @tombanner3720@tombanner37202 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for these advices! Cheers from Madrid.

    @AlPlatino@AlPlatino2 жыл бұрын
  • GREAT idea for a tutorial! Thank you!

    @jsav100@jsav1002 жыл бұрын
  • great video ! thank you !! keep doing good job :)

    @dbdbdb12345@dbdbdb123452 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you sir very well explained I'm sure takes a lot of practice on the tips you shared ❤️

    @talentro3304@talentro33042 жыл бұрын
  • Real dope. Thank you so much.

    @adamdoppler@adamdoppler2 ай бұрын
  • Great video! ✨

    @FredericVCthinking@FredericVCthinking2 жыл бұрын
  • Great video and content as always....

    @citizenoftheverse4653@citizenoftheverse4653 Жыл бұрын
  • Some solid advice here, thanks a lot.

    @xgmode@xgmode Жыл бұрын
  • Brilliant advice cheers 👌😁☮

    @SuperRingoffire1@SuperRingoffire12 жыл бұрын
  • This is one of you best videos Oscar, thank you! And I can only confirm, learning gain staging and using references is crucial for a good sound. Took me way too long to realise that.

    @jang3853@jang38532 жыл бұрын
  • I'm really enjoying these videos, so insightful. Thanks Oscar.

    @meltdowninteractivemedia@meltdowninteractivemedia5 ай бұрын
  • the audible groove and overall feeling of a techno track was awesome insight. i would love to see you do a video of building a groove, and balancing the various elements in real time to make a coherent groove that works really well! thank you for your videos, loving your content.

    @frankiewylde7649@frankiewylde76492 жыл бұрын
  • So many answers in this video! amazing class

    @diegosalazar1086@diegosalazar10862 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you, for taking the time to teach for free. I appreciate what I learned from you and it has helped me immensely. I just wanted to say thank you.

    @djdsp8207@djdsp8207 Жыл бұрын
  • Reason does have a handy frequency display. It's the large button with the wiggly line just below the yellow EQ tab on the SSL mixer. Super useful.

    @JaffaDelicious@JaffaDelicious2 жыл бұрын
    • I was just scrolling through to see if anybody had pointed that out

      @redbones6046@redbones60462 жыл бұрын
  • amazing man!!,

    @mihovil5806@mihovil5806 Жыл бұрын
  • Excellent advise !

    @gbigbo_zjebeezjeboo@gbigbo_zjebeezjeboo Жыл бұрын
  • this is my fav channel so glad I found it.

    @idontknowwhattoputhere371@idontknowwhattoputhere371 Жыл бұрын
  • So much thank you.

    @rybotekk@rybotekk Жыл бұрын
  • Wow! Very important Stuff right on the point explained with your own Story, Examples and Mistakes. Really enjoyed this Video :-)

    @ko_3x335@ko_3x3352 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you.. great video

    @jamesbolt4489@jamesbolt44892 жыл бұрын
  • Great video ✋❤️

    @Reg-Edit@Reg-Edit2 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks. Best EDM teacher I have seen on youtube. I am struggling with choice paralysis so I like how you break things down. Also you seem like a thoroughly nice bloke! Wishing you the best with your channel and music. M.

    @MoodooVanSpoon@MoodooVanSpoon Жыл бұрын
  • I enjoyed this video, especially describing what I hear.

    @FranckMartin@FranckMartin2 жыл бұрын
  • hey mate , always brillant u are , thx a lot

    @fredericpasco2863@fredericpasco28632 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent presentation. Thank you. You have one more subscriber xx

    @tonyt303@tonyt3032 жыл бұрын
  • incredibly useful, I have been making most of these mistakes myself at the beginning and wish I had been explained this back then!

    @unternehme@unternehme Жыл бұрын
  • definitely the most util and necesarie videos of music production on the entire known internet

    @ruidokalasa3171@ruidokalasa31712 жыл бұрын
  • Wow. I am 8 months into production and this was a lightbulb video for me. Thank you!!

    @analisatafro5140@analisatafro5140 Жыл бұрын
  • Very useful indeed, you are very clever because nobody has ever explained it too me like you do. I actually learned something 😁👍thanks

    @GrozerVonTeplitz@GrozerVonTeplitz Жыл бұрын
  • Another great and very useful video. I also wish I had all the help available now when I was younger. Thank you Oskar. A suggestion for a video about fails... Sidechain.

    @konzekuenze@konzekuenze2 жыл бұрын
  • Fastest click of my goddamn life. Love your content (but techno especially ;D)

    @Jefrejtor@Jefrejtor2 жыл бұрын
  • i may be a musical illiterate, but I like the snippets of Hedon and Instinct massively.

    @Bartyron@Bartyron6 ай бұрын
  • Absolutely incredible and invaluable video. Thank you for sharing!! 😎👍🎶🎵👏👏

    @TheC0G@TheC0G Жыл бұрын
  • Amazing explanation

    @tkctrlofevltn@tkctrlofevltn Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks Oscar! You make musical world better! I wish you a good luck!

    @daly_ramay@daly_ramay2 жыл бұрын
  • Very pleasant and easy to understand. Can I really confirm everything exactly like that. Also, how well he gets to the heart of the important things will save many a beginner many years of frustration. And you also get a rough structure that helps you to find a start and to keep track. Thank you. 😀

    @MrMichaelHeat@MrMichaelHeat2 жыл бұрын
  • I’ve learned so much from your videos, and I really appreciate your work that you do. 🙏 Btw. On a side note; I watched this on my iPad without headphones & I could surprisingly still hear the sound down to 34~33Hz 😄

    @ArcticXun-936@ArcticXun-9362 жыл бұрын
  • This is just excellent advice, a truly great lesson on some very important fundamentals. Even though I know these lessons instinctively, I'm not certain I could have articulated them as well as this. Thanks! This is very useful. I wish I had seen it three years ago!

    @briancase6180@briancase6180 Жыл бұрын
  • Amazing auto analysis and criticism. I don't recall I ever seen any video like this. Very helpful. Started to follow after I've watched one of your video about the rumble on reason. You're my man. Big thanks 🤜🤛

    @fabgott8026@fabgott80269 ай бұрын
  • Awesome video! A quick tipp in regards to high-passing (or a little addition to your tipp on listening to the sound "thinning out"): Consider the key your song is in and root notes you use in your music. If the lowest note in your song is an A, you should cut frequencies a few semitones below that note, as to not take away the "foundation" of your sound (e.g. an A1 is 110 Hz, so you should maybe start cutting at somewhere around 100 Hz).

    @barely_awake@barely_awake2 жыл бұрын
  • I’ve learned more in this 22 minuet video than I did in the years of ‘experimenting’. Eureka moment. Thank you!

    @martinbridgewater@martinbridgewater2 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome great music song so sound great audio 🤘👍

    @MrPeter924@MrPeter9242 жыл бұрын
  • Along with good speakers, I found that my room was also important. When I first started I played in my basement which had a concrete floor, finished walls, and no drop ceiling. All the surfaces were relfective. This resulted in me fighting mud that surfaced after the sound left my PAs. My new "studio" in my next house has carpet on the floor, a drop cieling, and I made acoustic panels from rigid 3M fiberglass panels. Plus theres soft furniture in the room. So, there is much less mud. Good headphones would eliminate that for everyone but I like to mix on the PAs I am going to use so there are less surprises. Thanks Oscar for your time and efforts in sharing your knowledge. Peace.

    @CaptainPhilosophical@CaptainPhilosophical2 жыл бұрын
  • -chills in car- i could hear all the way down till you stopped... awwwww yeee!!!

    @roxasparks@roxasparks2 жыл бұрын
  • Lesson #1 learned from this video: the built-in iphone speaker is surprisingly good at reproducing low frequencies! I could still hear the operator quite well a bit below 100 Hz. Not that I do any production on my iphone, but… maybe I should? I’ve got a bunch of music apps on my ipad, they’re quite fun to fiddle around with sound design…

    @mortenwintherolsson3237@mortenwintherolsson32372 жыл бұрын
    • Listening on my crappy 2015 MacBook Pro, and somehow I'm able to hear all the way down to 70Hz (though it's very quiet)?? That's like...a LOT better than I expected.

      @imlxh7126@imlxh71262 жыл бұрын
    • Yes I’m shocked at how Apple did this. I’ve mixed songs for artists and if it doesn’t translate well on my iPad speakers, I need to do so more surgery

      @LocaliLLocano@LocaliLLocano2 жыл бұрын
    • I do all my production in iOS - we now have enough decent apps and plugins to compete with desktop systems and there are various setups you can configure to your liking. Mixdowns are another matter, but we’re slowly getting there too!

      @djkrptdnb@djkrptdnb2 жыл бұрын
    • My Shure Aonic 215 earphones didn't have any drop off at all. Could even hear it when the frequency got so low it started to disentangle from a tone to a vibrating series of clicks. Just as well I use them when producing on the move! 😂

      @carlrowlinson2833@carlrowlinson28332 жыл бұрын
    • In this interview with Rampa of Keinemusik, he tells that he does all his mixdowns on his macbook speakers. His way to check the sub and bass was by feeling the soundbar while laying on his couch.

      @rutgerdenijs9286@rutgerdenijs92862 жыл бұрын
  • That little EQ scope looking button above the HP/LP filter controls opens up the spectrum analyzer.

    @roryfunkedub@roryfunkedub2 жыл бұрын
  • I love how practical your examples are, especially the relationship with white, pink, and brown noise and how that relates to looking at a track's RMS and LUFS. Absolutely brilliant. I have several tracks that I really like, but they have a lot of issues despite all of the other tutorials I've watched about tonal balance and mastering, and this one video has given me a real plan to address what has been getting me stuck for months. Your videos always take me 500% longer to go through because I take so many notes. ;)

    @OpenEarth@OpenEarth2 жыл бұрын
    • Cheers, so happy it's helpful ✌✌😁

      @OscarUnderdog@OscarUnderdog2 жыл бұрын
  • thank u man!

    @sophia5798@sophia5798 Жыл бұрын
  • My headphones are bangin. I heard it all the way down to 37

    @jareddrogose1470@jareddrogose14702 жыл бұрын
  • Than you! 🌷

    @danmonge3531@danmonge3531 Жыл бұрын
  • Great tips

    @m3zza9@m3zza92 жыл бұрын
  • thank u so much

    @social_chemical@social_chemical2 жыл бұрын
  • bruh, your tutorials are amazing, but your techno is even better :D

    @pahvalrehljkov@pahvalrehljkov Жыл бұрын
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