Local Elections Debate: voters question five main parties
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Local Elections Debate: voters question five main parties
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14 years of tory excrement & it's still someone else's fault.
You can't house millions of people that keep on arriving, I notice that people aren't talking about the genocide of our culture in these debates. Immigration is a serious issue for the majority of people in the UK. Proportionally, the UK has more migrants than France and our people are suffering due to it. It is National State of Emergency! Especially when there is another 780M people that would like to come to the west. We have to close the borders and put a ban on immigration for ten years.
Plus a lot of the audience are thick, don't understand politics, economics or even the history within the uk!
@@bereal6590If you even slightly understood history, you wouldn't vote labour or tory. The pendulum have swung back and fourth between the two and the country has gotten worse year on year, election after election. Neither party is fit to run the country.
I am a quantity surveyor who has been involved in building over three thousand houses in the past 10 years in London. Some of this house/apartments are labelled "affordable" which is not really the case. In general, out of all the houses/apartments built in the past 10 years, 80% of them are not affordable. So when politicians say we built millions of houses, ask them what percentage is affordable and you would be surprised they don't have a clue
Who can afford a house nowadays and I'm in my 30s picking up every shift going and doing 12 hours and weekends and I still can't afford a house. My finances just stay at the same level... the tories know exactly what they are doing. Also a bet property developers get profit from all the houses they are building.
Ask them what percentage are given to immigrants more like it
@@zapre2284"given"? 0%. Migrants are in the same queue as everyone else.
Tories have sold everything off
Like what, what is everything
Royal Mail privatisation is a disaster, Tracked items prioritised over letters
Asset strippers
@@tulab4295railway, energy, post office, telecom, water and our homes sold to landlords
@@tulab4295 water and electricity production and distribution, post office, buses, trains, trams even some canals are private, train tracks, train station(all separate private businesses by the way one owns the tracks one owns the train and another the station and staff) council houses parks, dentists, Steel production, BAE systems, rolls Royce, BP(British petroleum) army recruitment, British telecom, nhs recruitment nhs procurement nhs collection of patient data private financing for hospitals which means the hospital building is private ownership paying private hospitals for patient care decrease in negotiation powers for the nhs allowing private businesses to get more money out of the nhs, the entire construction sector, mining companies, British airways, banks, British Gas, should I carry on?
The fact that the housing minister can show his face to public is unbelieveable arrogance!!
They got no shame
People like them are profiting from the lack of genuinely affordable housing.
because he has no shame like the rest of his cronies
@@speedboostr how so? x
@@speedboostr lies as usual- flippant comments with no substance or truth. Take a look at Angela rayner and her shenanigans- lying liebour
We want a General election. Go home tory
Your not British,
Tories have definitely been the cruelest and coldest party ever, betrayed the British public, they will never recover
Ooooh we better get a nursery teacher to run the country then
@@tulab4295 good one👍
C#### were even known as the nasty party by their own leaders in the late 90's yet the hydra rose again.
@@tulab4295 Better than the clowns of the last fourteen years.
Local councils are screwing up their budgets
The 75 year old gentleman is spot on 👏👏he has got their number and was rudely interrupted
this reform bloke is like a harry enfield character....a caricature of the pub bore backseat driver
Just like the rest of reform, a pub party.
Unfortunately there's a huge percentage of the population that barely finished high school, can hardly read or even communicate effectively in the one language they're expected to get by. They're easy to sway with soundbytes and they'll react like villagers with torches and pitchforks whenever the elite take something away from them and tell them the "other" is the cause of all their woes.
Yes because the main parties are full of serious politicians with real vision 😂😂😂
Yeah but he right…
@@emanuel1940 can you elaborate?
TORIES ARE SHAMELESS
They are the only ones telling the truth. Thousands of immigrants flooding the country is obviously going to affect housing - it’s just truth but the lab, libs and greens are shameless liars . You are deluded
Lefties are the ones to blame for lack of housing. If they actually admitted there is a problem with mass immigration we might stand half a chance , instead they make up stories about lack of new houses, which is a lie. They don’t stop building, areas are looking like concrete jungles but let’s continue to build bulld build, never mind lack of hospitals, schools, lack of services, additional Pollution, waste and unfit air, but let’s just build until we burst at the seams - greens and liebour are hypocrites and a liability
they don't care because the are prospering from suffrage
They all are
@@doonthepan1290"suffrage" -> "suffering"? "Suffrage" is permission to vote.
Reform guy is such a clown 😭
Not as much as the tory
looks like a rejected extra from peaky blinders
The reform guy speaking common sense
Channel 4 news is the Guardian Newspaper on Air
Why?
I'm already fed up if reform, bunch of cranks
The Ruling Uniparty it is then
@@jeffsimon9594 lol, people see right through reform
@@bereal6590 LOL comrade
Oh you are definitely uneducated
Improve government spending efficiency. Should people be paying to accommodate migrants in hotels, should taxpayers money be sent to Ukraine, should the NHS be allowed to increasingly outsource to private sector healthcare providers, should the UK be giving money to France to stop their migrants being offloaded to the UK.?
Tories shifting responsibilty onto local councils when they’ve cut local council funding by about 50%. Tories always have money for war and tax cuts and helping out their rich mates / cushioning them from tax and everything else is living beyond our means.
I wish the rest of us lived in the same country the Tories do... It sounds great but it doesn't resemble the UK. 😂😂😂
Go live with the loopy greens then
@@tulab4295 Run along now, it's a school day.
You mean a dump,like u leftys like it
So many in Government should not just be removed, but arrested, put into court and placed in prison
All parties, and the media, and the heads of the police forces, Health care service and media
@@zapre2284 But they get away with it, and continue to
What an absolute pile of horseshit. We're doomed
Yep. If voting worked it would be illegal.
Politicians are selected, not elected.
Isn't it interesting that this debate is about the LOCAL elections, but 3 out of the 5 debaters are MPs. And it would likely be 5 out of 5 if the Greens and Reform had more than 1 MP each. Why not invite council leaders or even elected mayors, the people directly involved in local politics?
Because they probably know that most people vote on national issues and not for local candidates (frankly that's even true for MPs at general elections) and very few people would actually tune in for local councillor debates where as you say the housing minister (I think that's what the Tory bloke was) it's a recognisable title of someone the vast majority of people want to see get a whopping
@ForbiddenPlanetB I think a big part of the problem though is public interest, most people just don't care about voting because there parents were disenfranchised by politics which they then pass onto the next generation so we've ended up with multiple generations of people who just don't see the point of voting, unfortunately it's only really the poorest in society that feel that way leaving "middle class" upwards to vote meaning even left wing parties have to put forward policies that are more geared towards the rich or they won't get anywhere near votes
@@chrisd1982 Your opinion is one of the very few accurate expressio0ns of reality
@@iskrajackal9049 that sounds like a very long winded way of saying true dat 😂 but I appreciate it non the less
I understand time restrictions, but what’s the point of inviting the public to ask questions and then not let them speak?
Absolutely right. Why have the public there in the first place?
@@wleon4068for generalized reactions like laughing or clapping.
Has the the Reform gadge got a shift behind the bar after the debate?
He's going back into his cage at the zoo.
The reform guy is the only one to believe !!!
@@keithworrall8481 it's easy to believe someone when the height of their intellect is to tell you that the sky is the colour blue.
@@dazzwsmith Better than the people who bury their head in the sand and turn their back on people who are effected
@@dazzwsmith I laughed for 10 seconds non stop reading this
Yeah build more house for the Tory landlords to buy yeah so it is the wrong houses
End the occupation.
Need a general election this is will of the people.
When I was in UK. I saw empty boarded up streets under a constant grey sky, litter everywhere. Homeless people sleeping in doorways. A women with cat whiskers makeup casually walking into Tesco with her pajamas. Opioid addicts out of their mind and women so drunk they urinated on the streets. It's a sad declined country.
sir, your words remind me of Alan Ginsberg's 'Howl' - a beautiful poem, based in tragic reality
Like something out of a dystopian movie?
Reform shouldn't even be in this debate, the fact is only voters in a few council areas will have the option to vote for them. So what they have to say is irrelevant for most voters in this election. General election is a different story, they'll probably have quite a big impact then.
they'll end up with the same amount of seats that got in the last election as the Brexit party damn they change their names almost as often as 30p Squarehead changes parties. Basically they will have same amount of impact as a wet sock being thrown at an invading army .
If you don't like democracy go live somewhere else
@@oliver4693 What a foolish response. Reform are running very few candidates in this set of elections, compared to the other 4 parties. It is on this basis alone I don't think they should have been included.
The mainstream parties are 2 sides of the coin. we need more choice and viewpoints. I will not be fooled by ineffective puppets, and for.democracy to function correctly, we need free and fair elections and press
😂😂😂 reform have got candidates in every local election area and they are a breath of fresh air compared to stuffed shirts who know nothing of the working everyday person on the street...they have my vote and many of the people I know or I have spoken to ...oh and ps I have an education and do not live in a council property
Channel 4 News, You're the best! I subscribed because I love your content!
It used to be, obviously it has a new landlord now.
Enter: Video game streamer
Why are they all so scared to criticise isreal ?what hold does isreal have on this country.
They all get Epsteined with video evidence.
cant say sadly ... you will get in trouble for even asking your question
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Israel isn't very local
cause there not the problem
My god what a car crash
Reform candidate - classic pub chatter 😂. Who invited him to a serious debate.
CLOWN 🤡
don't you like people who speek the truth ?
@@keithworrall8481 truth? which but of what he said you liked. He's barely literate. Y'all got Nigel Farage and Richard Tice recruiting any dumb dumb cause they know you would identify with them. Wise up, they're con-men.
What's their plans for defence funding ?@@keithworrall8481
the pub bore
The Reform guy was a joke!
I know & they what to convince people that there the change candidates, there all coming from France sounds so similar. To even accept someone such as Lee Anderson claiming he is a man of great integrity you've lost me right there. Richard Tice big talker with very little substance as far as I'm convinced.
So are you saying that either the Tories or Labour are our best bet. I'm not saying reform are but they are the two worst parties at the moment.
@@allydlovesherdogs Did you only see three (Labour, Tories, Reform) parties being represented?
@@allydlovesherdogs I actually haven't been too happy with Labour in recent months I would still much rather prefer them than the Con's. I want to vote green though this time around & if I can help another way by bringing more green MP'S into Parliament that would be really nice to see.
@liamstanley2325 I need to look at more of Greens' policies. I can't just write them off, really. We definitely need a big change in government Liam. 🙂
I'm an Irish gentleman living in my beautiful beloved country, Ireland 🇮🇪 but I must ask you as an EU citizen too. Why would we want Britain in the EU again? All that going to happen is someone like fartage gets elected to EU parliament and doesn't even turn up to do their job 😂😂😂😂😂. I can't see Britain being allowed even a better deal, let alone, allowed to rejoin the EU 😅. My own wife is born and bred in Yorkshire, and she tell you the same thing. We're better without Britain in the EU, although I really do believe Scotland wants to be an EU member and should be given the opportunity to rejoin. But please, while Britain is not even upholding its own sign agreements, can we in EU stop talking to Britain 😢they haven't stood by agreements why would stop as EU members they didn't before after all. If Britain does get membership again, then they will destroy EU .
Also, every time, you see a man in a terrible blazer and YOU KNOW he's a Tory.
The left are such nasty people , what’s his blazer got to do with it
The Reform guy had a pretty heinous waistcoat, to be fair.
@@annphillips1086unsurprising, both are from the same stable.
If the British people 🇬🇧😅😅 vote conservative or Labor again were really Doomed 👎
defo vote reform & watch things change !!
@@keithworrall8481 How exactly? They have no costed policies just pure gobblygook but hey why not swap one bunch of rich privately educated toffs for another that sounds like a really refreshing change.
@@SirlarrythecatReform are just another extreme lunatic fringe of the corrupt conservative party .
@@Sirlarrythecat they will get our country back its funny if you think starmer will !!
@keithworrall8481, your country back. wasn't that supposed to be brexit , which they championed. Must be true turkeys would vote for Christmas. Reform voters are absolute knuckle draggers.
It’s unfortunate this wasn’t held over several evenings where the claims made by the panel members could be fact checked.
when this format was introduced there was indeed a follow-up discussion & there were experts in the audience whose opinions were heard. It was still all filmed in one day though.
"The Tories have built 2 1/2 million homes". Erm. Nope. They've actually not built a single home. They have allowed billion pound developers to build huge numbers of homes. And changes to planning law have removed the incentive for the developers to include social and affordable housing in the mix of what they build.
You will not get enough social housing with mass immigration. Immigrants get council houses too.
They have built to many houses that no one can't afford in small towns and people wonder why the roads are grid locked and the crime is up. Its down to lack of services, infrastructure and letting anyone into the local areas.
Cracking debate. Amazed the host could handle it Everyone had a fair chance to speak
Really? How much did Ellie Chowns (Green) or the Reform bloke get to say?
These "argie bargie" discussions? What a tool! This is about peoples lives.
'if I'm honest'😅😅😅😅
This just makes me want to leave the country 😂
you leave the tories, to vote for reform.... man!!! we need to have an intervention on your behalf.
People like you don't even believe in the free will of man, not everyone agrees with your views ___ DEAL WITH IT !!
a man with sense !!!
There are lots of reasons to stand and vote for the smaller parties.
It’s funny how they desperately dodging the subject and getting choked when Israel is being questioned.
"We've built 2 1/2 million houses"....no you haven’t. Private developers have built most of them.
Tories love the housing system - they're all landlords. Less houses - their assets are worth more ... Also with immigration - more people come here, either legally or not - more people for the workforce that are forced to take harrowing conditions without Unionism, like that sweat shop in Leicester. It's money on money for them.
Its so so funny when Tories talk as if they haven't been in power for years. they've destroyed our country since the 80's
Literally every other party representative kept speaking over and interrupting the Green Party representative. She showed a lot of respect and politeness to people who didn’t deserve it.
No one is saying, that if we stop paying hotel bills for illegal immigrants, there might be enough money available for the homeless, the schools. hospitals and more. Wake up, you British people. The people on the panel do not have a clue what the poor folks are going through.
They do. It's is Brexit and a complete mismanagement of the asylum system that's given rise to the hotels.
U Muslim convert
The Torys essentially stopped processing asylum claims in 2010 until there were enough in the queue to need hotels. Hotels which, purely by coincidence, are owned by Tory donors.
When they say "illegal immigrants" they mean refugees but there is no such thing as an _illegal_ refugee under International Law. Everyone is legally entitled to claim asylum wherever they like & take any route to get there. If the government re-opened Embassies & Consulates to asylum claims a lot less would arrive here but Tory donors with hotels wouldn't be paid £millions to house them.
what a load of rubbish, need a more formal set up for the debate. If there isn't enough time to get full answers for each questions, take less questions. Need far more local councillors aswell, too many MPs
Agreed! Factchecks would be useful too.
End no fault evictions.
He speaks about 'difficlties,' like his party had no part in creating those catastrophic problems
intro with snappy tough questions was good. i like putting all of them on the spot.
Aslong as People come legally and acknowledge were better than there country and they need Britain
Rent control now!
end none fault evictions as well
Also as someone from the Wirral myself i dont trust the lady who is in charge of here one bit .. her council has destoyed this area and its their own greed and their own fault. They are known for corruption around here and spending money they dont have and spending it on investments for their own benefits not for the public.
If capitalism requires a growing population you cant hide behind said growing population when theres a housing crisis. Also good to see the correction over the term illegal immigration.
From the 1930s & into the '70s there were 300,000 to 450,000 houses built every year, there was a slow-down when Israel's Yom Kippur War caused the 1973 Oil Crisis & after that 200,000 to 250,000 houses built every year till 2010 then essentially none till 2015 & still very few now, the Torys are talking about 100,000 this year but with no funding we have yet to see what will actually be built.
@@alanhat5252 thats outrageous, no wonder we are all fucked
if you keep voting for tax cuts nationally, you cut local provision as long as the nationalgoverment is the principal fund provider for local councils that they view as their political rivals in terms of achieving local successes
The tax burden is the highest it's ever been yet Public Services are collapsing left, right & centre!
Arggghhhh if the power companies hadnt been privatised then the government could lower the energy bills without the windfall tax or anything else
If the price of bills wasn't pegged to gas the bills wouldn't have gone so high. If tidal & geothermal energy wasn't blocked bills wouldn't have gone so high. If the planned wind & solar had been built bills wouldn't have gone so high. If the requirement to buy & sell gas "on the open market" hadn't been set prices wouldn't have gone so high. There's a litany of faults & failures, all of which were done by the Torys with the backing of Labour.
The Government _can_ lower energy bills, it's a policy choice & other countries have done it!
Incredible how they all answered the questions without answering the questions
From the start Alyson, representing Labour, sounds as Tory as the Tories. Yes, the country wants a change, but don't expect anything earth-shatteringly different. Remember Tory Blair?
Utter rubbish
So vote for a different party! It's not difficult, it's just tick a different box on the same slip! I'll be voting Green because I actually want to see a genuine improvement.
What the interviewer fails to realise is that, although Reform UK is a new party, his bosses of Channel 4 have invited a Reform UK representative on the panel because the popularity of the party is such, that Reform UK, and thier voters are multiplying every day...
Nobody mentioned the boat visitors costing us billions.Funny that.
"When are we sending all the muslims back?"
Amen to that,here,here,i could not agree me my friend
I am 64 and I have been hearing these same questions and answers for 50 years. What's the point
The point is that people have paid less & less attention to democracy & we now have very very few people who know how to cast a vote, how to find out which candidates are charlatans & which are genuine. Programmes like this start to address the problem but we need much more engagement.
@@alanhat5252 There is no democracy, we all get a vote every five years to con us into thinking we had a say. Most of the time no party represents our views so there is not much choice and the one you vote for does not do what it promised and does other things it never mentioned
I have big arms and going to show them...
the only party that gave a straight answer on where to get money for councils was reform.
only because Greens were silenced, they have had workable policies for years.
Bye bye blue
Labour Party Councils are going bust 😮
*ALL* Councils are going bust!
This is not CGM best work. Trying to fly from one sound bite to the next. No interest in depth.
Agreed
Lee Rowley did well imo
Generally prefer C4 News over most broadcast journalism in the UK, but have to say that it makes you appreciate how well run Question Time is.
There's not much to choose between them now (apart from QT is regular) but C4 used to have a follow-on discussion after in which the experts in the audience emerged.
that Fiona gets right up my nose she lets tories talk for to long when its labour all the others on the panel she hurrys them up when its there turn
god help us
Toy MP claiming there is no money again after wishy Sunak find 75 million for defence yesterday
2.5 billion for war but FA for the poor
Reform Uk has hundreds of PP candidates in every area of the counrty. Everyone I know is voting Reform UK in the general election. Even my neighbour, aged 72, who has been a staunch conservative since she was of an age to vote is voting Reform UK in the general election.
I was a conservative voter,im also thinking voting reform
If you want an un vetted immigrant as your neighbour. Vote labour
British politics is sounding too much like I5raeli politics. Utter denial. Get rid of both parties. Another world is possible!
Un otro mundo es posible. 🎉
That's what we are working on !! Labour should be avoiding being in power because all that will happen to them is the same as Tories. We know they are garbage and will utterly fail even before they get power.
join reform my friend and help get our country back !!!
@@keithworrall8481 😅 Tory tribute act. Already got Starmers lot for that.
@@karlmuud so where do you go then for change & to get our country back ??
Reform....vile
You don't need to build more houses if you control rents and landlords, because you are them.
Channel 4 has turned into the local university 'think tank' department. Such a shsme as it once made good programming. Why the government dont sell it off is beyond me.
Before we build more houses we need more reservoirs and water treatment plants to support the new houses.
UK should vote for the workers party
Freaking farce... 🤣🤣😂
Dear oh dear
USLESS.
Five main parties that do what the WEF tell them to do.
Do you have proof they are receiving instructions from the WEF ? If so, tell me about it.
The WEF a bunch of bored rich old farts that swap fairy tales and mugs like you believe them your tinfoil hat is on too tight.
@@alexmarsh1839 Do your own research its really easy a child could do it.
Is the WEF any less competent to manage the economy than the current parties?
@williamfraser8059 a child could do it because they'd stumble across a conspiracy website. You're mentally on par with a toddler, not surprised a child could achieve what you did😂😂😂😂
You seem to restict Ellie Chowns' speaking
Thanks for posting
How can anyone defend the Tories? What they have done for the last 14 years? It's common b****** sense.😡🏴
they keep saying we need more housing they are forgetting the elephant in the room {mass immigration}
Why don't you see a poor tory 🤔.
That torie is delusional
The building of council housing is down to councils! For example, Cheshire East has none - and then householders still have to pay very high council tax. To keep letting in migrants on the scale it is at now is ridiculous. Out of this lot I must say, the Reclaim man makes the most sense and seems to be the most genuine.
My grandsons sitting at home because he cant get help ,he has speacil needs but refused ehcp at college twice now no help no nothing its ridiculous ive tried every avenue i need help.
Well in Peterborough they put in raised curbs at bus stops for the council run bus service weeks later they stopped the bus services did anyone get the sack I wonder
Use your vote WISELY people! Look at the state of the country in its past years..😮
I think her with the pink suit in should for pm she talks more sense and seems to know how to deal with money unlike these idiots
“sick of these legacy parties” yes thats why im voting green mate, because they are some of the most sensible people in politics and you look a little insane
So Labour don't care about what we think, the Tory is in denial and the Greens are weeding in the garden. Lib Dems, what did she say and Reform is sacking candidates for jokes about Scotland. Who shall I vote for?
i voted for the Green Party 😊😊😊
😂
Green Party voter here as well 💖
@@mollyseymour10 well done
@@mollyseymour10 Green Party is the future
@@mollyseymour10 i love the Green Party
RIP UK
Why does the people's can't go to work and sold their familie's problum?. They want everything's free from this country.
what?
Green Party FTW!!!
They will keep your energy bills high.
There is No more Money left to give away 😂😂😂 think about it
Simple figures- 2010 to present, Tories cut local government finance by 25-40%.
They have cut funding everywhere and karma is coming to them because people can't get an appointment, pot holes everywhere, crime up because they have shut down police stations. I think the rich get richer needs to stop and I can understand the ones that work hard but it's being noticed that greed is a problem in this country. I've noticed people don't have respect anymore compared to 14 years ago.