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What's especially creepy to think about is that there is a high probability he had earbuds in listening to the stream and was fully aware of everything being said about him.
it was also creepy when she pass by him the music "every breath you take" was playing and the song is about stalking
@@tweep5918 its her music
@@tweep5918 idiot she put the music
You have absolutely no way of knowing that lmfao this is pure 100% speculation
@@jtubef8620 The stream could've been how he found her in the first place. Could've been searching local streamers to stalk.
Since last year, it's officially illegal to stalk in Taiwan. At first, the stalker only got warning from the police, but eventually got arrested for not being cooperative.
Only since last year??? It’s crazy if that’s true, being stalked is terrifying
I thought u said ‘legal’ the first time I read 💀 and got scared for those people
@@mar-nyan Stalking isn't illegal at all in most countries.Which is even more terrifying.
@@Knowledgesquad1 I don't think people realize how often stalkers get off with warnings. Most of the time police won't do anything until the stalker actually does something violent, at least where I live.
@@mar-nyan Stalking is sadly not illegal, or at least is not treated as it should be by the police in most countries. Most of the time, police will tell you they can't do anything if he didn't try to do anything to you, or they will give the stalker a warning for harassment. It's crazy, and this inaction from police is what resulted in many deaths and rapes.
When she walked passed him and singing "I`ll be watching you", I guess my heart stopped beating for some seconds. How brave she was to do that!
Brave isn't the right word.. clueless, or stupid, those are the right words
@@hastyscorpionwhat?
Time stamp?
@@RazzBeri1 ah yes very clever... the dude couldve jumped her within 1 second and kill her while twitch chat watching in horror, you are just dumb and unaware of danger lol, you have no idea how quickly things can go from 0 to 100 you should never ever get so close to a person who stalked you for many hours lol, i even seen some comments saying: "if someone stalk you stop and let it pass by you" NO never do that lol, only stop if you got to a place with other people nearby because otherwise if you all alone the stalker can easily stab you, rob you, attack you or worse so dont get in grabbing/jumping distance of stalkers and take care
@@RazzBeri1 idk if it’s clever to walk past the person stalking you
If he got aggressive with the cops, imagine what he would've done if he'd approached her. Definitely the kind of person to go apeshit if they feel shut down
I bet he was trying to find out where she lived 😱😱😱😱
Or if she approached him
Who liked at the same time I liked 😭
@@violethighley5978 bro he would've been in for a surprise having to walk that much
Yeah after an hour and a half of following it's probably safe to say he crossed well into creepy territory and is definitely a person you'd want to avoid. Social awkwardness excuse doesn't extend that long
It's possible to have been in the same area after an hour and a half of walking if they both kept walking during that time. The unbelievable part is that he's still in the same area after her sitting down to talk to chat for an random amount of time and him still being around, her stopping to due to tech issues and him stopping when she does and starting back up when she leaves, and STILL being in the same area nearby after 4 hours.
@@DarkAoiishi Sure, but covering himself up that much in that kinda weather? It gives incredibly bad vibes. I wouldn't feel sorry at all if he got arrested and weren't a stalker. If he isn't a stalker he is a god damn walking fashion crime.
@@3Dyler in the beginning I was thinking she should try and talk to him. Maybe he would lose interest maybe she would have to make it clear that he was creeping her out. Thank god she didn't, if he was agressive to the police imagine how he could've reacted to her confronting him.
@@3Dyler Taiwan starts to get stupid humid this time of year too. You'd have to be crazy to go out in a hoodie and pants willingly.
There is stream sinping then there is stream stalking
i like how she says "he'll get all the help he needs" she took it well because that dude definitely needs help
For sure. It's scary being a woman, a famous woman... alone. Who knows what that stalker wanted to do, completely unacceptable behavior. Police did a great job here
She took it well? It looked like she was dense about the whole thing not paying attention half the time until chat spotted him and made her check her back every now and then. It's great that she ended up safe with a happy ending, but most of the time these cases don't end up all bright and happy. I don't understand how you can do something like this with no sense of awareness. Chat:"Oh did he get up from the bench" Her "uhhh idk".. at what point do you start blaming the person being stalked for not taking action or finding safety. I get things should not be this way anywhere in the world, but the reality is things are. These people are live streaming their locations.. it doesn't take much for someone to drop by and doesn't matter how many thousands of people are watching, if someone is covered up enough she could have been easily kidnapped.
@@butlike8988 how could you possibly blame her? She's got thousands of viewers for one, looking at chat while streaming is a whole ass job. For two, with that in mind, how could you blame her by continuing her journey? Do not blame Jinny here. I don't even watch her but it's hard to juggle chat and streaming at the same time. She might not have noticed otherwise. I thank chat for looking out for her.
@@butlike8988 Can’t you just be happy that it ended well and not be a bummer 💀
@@butlike8988 You DON'T start blaming the victim. Criticizing the victim for how they handled a scary situation is disgusting and can _very quickly_ lead to some extremely problematic takes.
When my mom was young she was nearly killed by a stalker that followed her for a long time like this. He eventually jumped her and started to strangle her. She only got away because she stopped struggling after a bit and pretended to be unconscious and when the guy let go she took off and out ran him. It's good that the road was busy but still you never know when someone like this will actually end up being dangerous and no number of people watching on twitch is gonna matter if the guy is crazy enough to not care. Jinny probably should have called the police because you don't know if they're just a weirdo that doesn't realize how creepy they're being or if they're actually dangerous and it's not worth the risk. Really glad it worked out alright though and that she's ok.
Ur mom's smart
It's unbeleiveable to me that she did that When u start to panic it would be the last thing on your mind
happy for your mom, god saved her
She used a counter💀 Jokes aside congrats to your mom
I'm so glad chat kept checking in and wanted to keep her safe. Stalkers are so terrifying, it's nice that people are being more empathetic about it. So scary to watch this, I can't even begin to imagine experiencing it. I'm so glad she's okay and that he was arrested.
ludwig getting scared by coots is a great parallel to this situation
Who's Ludwig?
@@forrevv yeah, that's mogul mail
Bro literally can’t stop copying charlie
@@ncwolverine bro…. No.
@@ncwolverine what
What's crazy is most people that stalk genuinely believe they aren't being creepy and weird while stalking.
What is your source for this exactly?
@@zengrathmost addicts are quite aware of their addictions, y'all need to stop infantilizing people who exhibit bad behaviors it's really weird
alot of people that do this also dont care because they have horrible things in mind also common practice of trafficking
@@QTpatootie95 asks for source proceeds to send a paragraph thats very wrong without a source himself. Gigachad
@@QTpatootie95 "Whats is your source for this exactly?" makes you sound like a defensive stalker who is offended.
Twitch chat is usually like an absolute war. Which can be good or bad depending on the streamer. But seeing twitch chat get an aggressive stalker arrested is one of the most wholesome things I’ve ever seen.
4:40 "He doesn't even come and say hi." lol wholesome
Learning to walk was the first step, Ludwig. Keep going, you got this
Good one
the first step is always the hardest
The most important step a man can take is the next one.
whos ludwig i only know mogul mail
I only see mogul mail
Jesus that could've ended bad, good job twitch chat and I'm glad the news team came and even filmed the guy.
Might've even be them who tipped off the local police. Find it hard to believe that local cops would respond purely on an out of town tip on their phoneline. But if they got a heads up from an established news station it would make sense that it lent credibility to the multiple random calls they were prolly getting
Part of me wonders if the news team came by specifically because of the stalker dude. Like how would they know of her location and what she was doing if they weren't watching the stream
@@Angels510what if it's someone from in town? Lol that could've happened too.
Brave new world …
repent to God
"I hope he gets the help he needs" is a very very gracious thing of her to say.
I know the entire thing is horrendous, but it's lovely that they got him to a hospital and he's getting help.
agreed. True justice isn't punitive beyond what is absolutely necessary for remediation and public safety.
I just picture that Simpsons scene of, I think it's a guy who runs onto a stage and is pulled off by security and they're like, "Don't worry folks, he's getting the help he needs!" and it shows security beating the snot out of him in the background. :D
My heart dropped when he ran across the street, I honestly thought for a second that he was about to charge at her
Same
I thought she was done for when she walked by him standing in the grass “looking at the view”
Nah the cat though😭😭😭
@@nicoleparreira1024 😭😭 he weird asf
@@nicoleparreira1024 Yea I was so nervous when she walked by him that close
She handled the situation really well, making sure that the creep was following her by constantly keeping an eye on him.
@@SimonWoodburyForget Yeah obviously call the police, but the first thing you want to do is make sure they're actually stalking you by making turns and stuff.
@@bossturner9540 after she stopped at the coffee shop and he was still there. Dont leave the shop and ask them for help
@@SimonWoodburyForgetHe could have ran away or actually Try to get a lot closer to her because stalkers well atleast most of the stalkers are scared of police getting involved so she could have gotten hurt or the guy could have ran away and then do something to her Some time later
@@SimonWoodburyForget That could initiate them to act sooner. You always want to make sure that you are in a safe place with other people before you call the police on a stalker.
It wouldn't surprise me if that guy already met her then pulled this stunt then got set free then met her again without the costume. He knows exactly what he is doing. And hopefully that is all he is doing.
1 hour 22 min 6:30 “kick him in the balls”💀(in stream chat)
💀💀💀
Lol
shoutout to that guy in twitch chat. youre a real one
The fact he was aggresive is even more concerning. Imagine what would've happened if he actually tried something worse
What if he was just a random homeless guy with a mental health disorder and the cops were harrassing him for no reason for the thousanth time in his life....
@@badm.d i don't think the cops were harrassing him lol they took him to get help he needs and did state he did not cooperate at all
@@badm.d he wasn't some random guy he was intentionally stalking her WTF
@@badm.d You will do ANYTHING to justify creeps.
@@badm.d I can't believe people like you. You're way to naive. That guy is dangerous, don't sympathize with him.
Good to see that we still have the remaining good people in chats that wouldn't want anyone they like getting harmed, we're blessed people.
Indeed
yea
Of course we do bro, you think most chatters would want to see this guy assault her or something? Come on, 99% of chatters are normal people
i think a good portion of twitch chat aren't fucking weirdos.
@@darkphoenix2 I'm talking about people who are weirdos, not all people are perfect, but it is without a doubt a "choice", I would say that most of this individuals viewers are the normal people, but we also have some disgusting ones.
Atleast she made the stalker walk a good distance as well
this video is just perfect omg. i like the kinda minimal editing, its straightforward, you keep it interesting with the perfect amt of talking and explaining and showing video clips and the clips were like the perfect amt to show what was going on plus it didnt feel dragged on omg i love this vid
She’s got balls of steel, I’d be absolutely terrified
looks like she used to it, which is even more sad
she's a bit reckless, it's the same as having balls of steel
@@bucherregaldomi9084 Yeah walking by him on the street was INSANE. Basically gave him an opening to do what he was gonna do. IRL streamers especially women really should stream on a SIGNIFICANT delay. Fuck the chat experience if it means it's harder for psychos like this to pull shit
Same, I'd be freaking out at 5 mins of following
Ovaries of steel.
I love how the most replayed part of this video is when his cat got scared.
Cat :)
This gave me some hope back for humanity because of how people responding to her & the situation. So glad she is safe!
Pro tip: if you’re walking down a road and make multiple stops over an extended period of time and someone is within 100 yards of you for the entirety of that time, call the cops. If you stop 3 times within 30 minutes and they’re also stopping, that’s enough. She’s lucky something bad didn’t happen.
It is insane to me how clueless this whole situation is. I don’t know if it’s a generational thing or an influencer thing but she is extremely lucky she’s not being sold to traffickers right now.
@@NovemberFoxtrotRC I think there are much more easier targets than a famous streamer walking while live lol..
@@minimushrom Camera and viewers isn't going to do much if a hooded guy pulls a van up beside her and throws her in while shes out in the middle of nowhere. Streaming =/= protection. It's not the same as having physically other people around her who can do something if bad actors act out. If anything, streaming makes her even more of an easier target for traffickers because they can know exactly when she's in a vulnerable spot.
Is this a pro tip from a stalker or from a past victim of a stalker
@@raiyuiscool it SHOULD be common sense.
I've been stalked before & I can't fully explain just how unnerving it is to have someone constantly around you but completely silent, always staring, always a step behind, & never knowing what they're going to do or why they're doing it. I'm really glad there were multiple people that cared about her well-being enough to do something
bro just challenge them to spar
@@omeganeoz hilarious
@@ZerglingLover i know, i have been told multiple times i am insanely funny
@@omeganeozYou're so funny. I could kiss you.
@@baconiumo thanks bro
1:52 fun fact - many streets and roads in Taiwan do not have sidewalks, especially outside of Taipei. I was always on alert walking and biking around Kaohsiung because collisions are plentiful
I respect how calm she was the entire time!
Jinny definitely needs to be practicing safety things like not walking towards the stalker. You never know what someone might have on hand and if they will stop once or continue this behaviour. I'm glad the news guys are filming the stalker.
when she was walking from that inclined path where he had been I was legit expecting him to jump out and try to grab her. this guy wasn't just watching her, dudes don't follow you for 4 hours planning to have nothing to show for it.
i dont watch her but i expect she will have planned out the route beforehand as she probably wont know each area very well, so deviating from the path and getting lost somewhere unfamiliar while being followed is an even worse situation.
I've had the same feelings once. I was shopping and kept telling myself that the guy wasn't following me. Because what if he was getting some of the same stuff. Nope. He was filming me the whole time. And even pretending to check out at the self check out. The cashier noticed he was pretending to check out that's when I lost it and told them what had happened because someone else noticed how weird the guy was being. The security walked me to my car. Always trust your gut. Even if someone isn't following you and it is a coincidence it's better to be safe than sorry. Never be afraid to protect yourself. if it's legal she should look into mace.
@@fatlizard_ I think they meant smaller precautions like crossing the street first instead of walking on the same side of the road as the stalker, not changing her entire route. but in the clip they're referring to (4:56), it looks like there's not much space on the other side of the road to walk safely (there's also a car parked there which I might not want to walk right next to), so I don't blame her for choosing not to cross.
She should never have left that cafe. she should never have walked past him within 10ft...go back to the cafe, WHY are you walking past him!?
Twitch chat does ONE useful thing.
Rare Twitch chat W
And thats AALLL we get for the next 5 years
There is always good people, they’re just hard to find
@Robotninja lucky it only takes one hero to tip off the cops
But they do that one thing VERY WELL
I appreciate you covering this Ludwig
1:23 the real stalker
@@Meltygachalife2no, the chair
Behind the window 😱 Just kidding
This is terrifying. Glad it ended well and she's safe. Can't believe how calm she stayed during all of that - if it had been me, I would've been too scared to even leave that restaurant.
Perhaps she was even a bit too calm… Things ended well this time but if this ever happens to her again in the future I really hope she’ll try to escape the situation asap by asking either the locals or the cops for help. It’s probably best to stay at the restaurant until someone can come pick you up and drive you to a safe place.
@@mar-nyan The stalker would have just found her again, especially if he's a viewer, which is probably the case since he kept immediately responding to her movements
@@mar-nyan this happens to her a lot
Let's not let this vid distract us that Mogul Mail literally stole Ludwig's walking hobby too.
And cat
Murders the man on camera, steals his cat and girlfriend, steals his car, then steals his habits. Mogul Mail must be stopped!
Ludwig got what he deserved. I will continue to support Mogul Mail to the end.
@@Dkgow is this canon?!?!?
U mean Ludwig stole it from Mogul Mail
That honestly could have ended a LOT worse. I'm glad that someone called the police and that they came and took care of it. I can only imagine how much worse it would have been in less densly populated areas and/or at night... scary stuff.
You just know if he was an allright guy he would've went out of his way to either let her walk waaaaaay ahead of him or he would have walked faster to eliminate the impression he was a stalker. The fact he kept waiting for her is spot on stalking behavior, and I can't shake the feeling he was waiting for her to get to somewhere specific where he knew he could attack her.
I have been a victim of stalking and I always say this; be sure not to refer to the person stalking you as "my stalker." instead, say "a stalker" or "a person stalking me" because calling them your stalker makes them feel like you have validated their delusion that they have a right to do so. that being said, regardless how the perpetrator views it, in no way is it the victims fault in any stalking scenario. these are my tips from experience, not ways it could have been prevented. no tactic is ever surefire but everything is worth a shot at safety. it's important to spread awareness on ways to possibly de-escalate the situation and increase chances of safety. remove titles, spread word, alert authorities, and share your experiences.
Valid criticism but I also think taking the power away from the stalker is fundamental in making them stop/think twice. The mental game I understand but I would of personally asked any kind passerby's to insure safety. Safety in numbers, cause it the possibility that the stalker was tuned into the stream feeding him information isn't something I'd be surprised by. She was streaming for a long period of time, I am so stunned she even had the nerve to walk pass by that man. As much as it is nice that the internet isn't a completely awful place and it can be used for good I dont think having someone on camera would of been enough if his face is completely covered in broad daylight.
@@mirror2922 you're not wrong, I wasn't speaking on this specific scenario. in any case, it's important to keep them from feeling important
To be fair she def doesn't seem like a native speaker and I doubt the stalker was either
I think it’s really awkward to correct the victim honestly, especially over something the stalker is likely never going to hear anyways.
@@SpiritualDemo It's not a bad thing to give pointers that could potentially keep someone out of danger. If somebody does something they didn't realize was dangerous and got hurt by a sicko, educating people on why you shouldn't do that thing isn't victim blaming, it's victim prevention.
Jinny has been doing IRL streams for a very long time by herself in alot of different parts of the world and she deals with stuff like this alot. That's why she's so calm about everything. It's crazy but she still loves doing it. She travels to places sometimes for a month or more and if she puts together all the creepy stuff she's come across, it would be like days worth lol
She needs to keep safe not worth it
She would be a lot safer even if she is at least with one other person. Like the one sergeant said in that one popular video: "You're dead! You have no battle buddy!...Strength in numberrrrrrs!"
I'm just know her very existence right now, but damn, she really need a travel buddy or something if that's the case. Like fr
@@minaryeon9259 Driving your car then isn't safe.
wow she's so inspiring, I want to live stream walking around the world... how does she afford food? Twitch donations?
Although this was 3 months ago, I also feel like the station that interviewed her could have also called the police from that point too since it immediately gives them a scoop on their arrest and hospitalization, since they were there at the location at the time. Also if they're the ones that called it in, that could give the police time to surveil the stalker to find the right timing to confront and arrest them. I noticed at the part where the police caught them, it seems like she did take a different route off the road they were following her on. Though I wonder if the police was following them both and she just turned off the main road at that moment and caught that little snippet. I guess since they (stalker) did become aggressive with the police she couldn't really stop and give a statement and probably walked on on the road to the right (viewer's right/her left as everything we watch is in a sense mirrored).
Hats off and a round of applause for the Taiwanese police. I am confident that if this happened in the US, police wouldn't have cared to show up at all, ESPECIALLY without pleas from the victim themselves. Even if they happened to show up, the stalker probably wouldn't have faced any repercussions, and on the slim chance he did, he wouldn't get any psychiatric help whatsoever. Our police force SUCKS compared to so many other countries.
more and more proof us americans have to fend for ourselves on most of this stuff, since the police don't give two shits
@@Just_a_Piano_ but...how? As a woman, if you're being stalked it could end in someone physically overpowering you then being physically assaulted, sexually assaulted, kidnapped, or killed. What are you going to do, shoot someone then go to jail because stalking itself isn't considered enough of a threat? FUCK that shit, we need police, legal system, and prison reforms. We're not living in the wild west or some shit and we live in a first world country - we deserve better. I don't want to live somewhere where everyone is "taking it into their own hands".
What a load of crap.
Good ol' 'murica
Did you not catch the part where he was only arrest for insulting the police, they were going to give him a warning
That's crazy. Been following her for years and I hop into her streams from time to time but it's been a while now. Glad she's okay.
THE FACT THAT AT 5:14 THE SONG SAYS 'ILL BE WATCHING YOU' IS RIGHT DOWN INSANEE
When parasocial chat comes in clutch they usually kill it. It's 90 percent of the time they're annoying and 10 percent of the time they are life savers. Love to see it
They're obsessed with her so makes sense
More like 99.99 percent insufferable and 0.01 percent useful.
If this happened in America, the police would have done nothing because there would be "no evidence of a threat."
true, and then they would blame her for being outside and endangering herself
it's same in Taiwan. the stalker get in Hospital because of he insult police first.
@@acg19573 but in america they wouldn't even show up
@@wtfisggon7251 thats not something you can just outright say. they probably would have shown up even if they thought there wasnt a threat. youre just overexaggerating
@@acg19573 stalking is illegal in Taiwan. it is not the same at all
I like to imagine that a police officer, who's a fan or follower of her, was actively watching the stream and decided maybe he and his partner should go look into this stalker guy
I have always and will continue to believe that IRL streaming, particularly as a woman, is an incredibly dangerous career
twitch chat really stepping it up to youtube chat levels
Bro we all know nobody uses youtube chat stop cappin.
@@Jawsomest tell that to hololive vtubers lmao.
@@TopOfAllWorlds I don't speak.. Korajapanechinesian
@@Jawsomest not you merging all three of those countries with their own distinct shit n stuff into one category .. just say you only speak english or something you genuinely did not have to start naming all three of the most stereotyped asian cultures
@@angelelelelalalalalelae It was a joke. Like, for a laugh?
It's surprising how little she seemed to care, at least in the clips you showed. I would be anxious as hell if someone followed me for 4 hours.
violent crime is very rare in taiwan. from a recent poll, taiwan is ranked third in the world for the number, 83.3%, of people who feel no danger in walking alone at night.
Appearances can be deceiving
She probably felt at least a little bit protected by the fact she was livestreaming since so many people were watching and could send her help immediately if he tried anything. Fortunately I think the fact that she was livestreaming probably was what kept her safe for so long because he didn't want to risk chat seeing his face
@aMiFiii We might have different definitions of immediately because as something is happening is about as immediate as you can get in my brain. She was doing a really good job of keeping him in frame so chat would've been able to see him getting ready to attack her before he actually reached her. She's also reasonably athletic and was paying close attention to him so she probably thought she could outrun him/fight him off for at least a few minutes to buy time for help to reach her on top of that which could've also made her more confident
Crime is rare in Taiwan plus acting distressed and doing something like making a run for it might spur him into action too. Hard situation. Great that she took it very seriously and people were willing to help
thank you for bringing this up
One of the few times where Twitch chat is actually gangsta, calling the cops on someone for being creepy and not just to randomly swat someone.
It’s crazy of Ludwig to stream during a Mogul Mail drop. He should know that he just can’t compete with Mogul Mail’s incredible content
Seriously? Some year old joke is your reaction to this?
@@destituteanddecadent9106can people not make jokes anymore?
@@JBLilPaper of course they can. In this case, it's just old, unoriginal, unfunny, irrelevant to the video, and inappropriate. Just my opinion.
@@destituteanddecadent9106 How is it irrelevant and inappropriate?
@@arcynull as for relevance, how would it be relevant? As for appropriateness - it's not one of the "fun" Mogul Mail videos, this is about stalking. The streamer was in very real danger. It's a problem everywhere that needs to be addressed seriously.
I genuinely worry for her safety walking across a country. I’d worry if she wasn’t live streaming it. But live streaming it, could essentially be broadcasting her location for weirdos like this guy to come find her. Hope she doesn’t have to deal with this again
Its bound to happen. IRL streams get robed often and that's just money not a predator.
But wouldn’t live steaming make the stalkers more hesitant to do anything since thousands of people can see what’s going on?
@@WeiYinChan No it wouldn’t at all. It’s been proven cameras in public places don’t lower crime. Criminals are gonna be criminals. Simple as that
@@WeiYinChan What is Chat gonna do if someone with a mask robs her or something worse?
@@SiameseOnMC well in this case someone called the police who arrested him…
She is so wholesome ❤️
great composure, awareness, and skill/commitment to making her content.
The fact she didn't call the police after like an hour or two is crazy. He's clearly stalking her. Obviously just glad she's okay.
I gor mixed feelings about it. The fact he found her meant he was watching. He could very well see her call the police and be violent...idk im not too sure how to feel about it
Initially I thought this was just going to be some awkward creepy stream sniper that just wanted attention by doing something weird. Then I heard his face is covered and I got worried. Then the police talk to him he gets aggressive and they strap him to a gurney and take him away. Holy shit that could of been really bad. I don’t think Jinny should be doing this alone. This was a close call and broadcasting her live position is not safe. Especially when she walks through rural locations and BY HERSELF.
I don't know man, obviously we can all agree that tagging along with at least one other person would be much safer, but if i had to pick between going through a rural area by myself without anyone knowing where i am, or with thousands of people watching everything that happens around me, i'd definetly feel safer with people watching me and having everything on tape
@@jinfra- does it matter if everythings on tape if youre wounded or dead? id rather avoid being hurt in the first place by having someone else there
@@jinfra- if that guy attacked her on stream, wtf is chat going to do?!? Type really angry messages? Call the cops so they can show up after she’s dead or kidnapped? Even if one of them did call the police, it took them like 4 hours. Guy was in a mask so no one could identify him anyway.
@@basementality4924 exactly like there’s only so much that can be done by people across the globe just watching a stream. his face was fully covered so even if he did do anything no one could report who he is
@@s4int980 i mean most of the viewers are from Taiwan, and Taiwan is a tiny country. Not saying a viewer going there physically could help but if they happen to be in the same city (there’s only like 23 total) they could be there in 30 min.
I've been in the same situation as well! There was a girl in a hoodie following me for at least 2 hours till i reach my friend's house. I made sure to run at the last corner while talking to my friend in order to open the door quick before she sees where he is living
Almost a good thing that streaming like this exists so at least there is a record of this. Keep safe out their ladies be sure to travel in groups always. Having those chat viewers was like having a guardian angel in this case.
I was watching some of this live and while on the other side of the world I felt scared. Glad everyone was safe and hopefully that guy gets all the help he needs.
You’re down bad
@@dathunderman4 The hell?
he needs to fix his mental health before he continues
props to the twitch chat for actually informing the police and helping her keep an eye out. usually twitch chats are the opposite of helpful, but this girls fanbase is amazing.
twitch chat doesn't do anything. you probably didnt notice the fact that a news crew showed up and took interest... they're the ones who probably tipped them off.
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I hate stalkers. Last year, I was involved in ALL women team of 7 co-worker stalkers in which included my manager, supervisor and my lead. This lasted for at least 2 months that I'm aware of. I finally talked to my manager on 2 different occassions and she said she mishandled it the situation. I was mad, upset and lost trust on management and so I decided to put my 2 weeks immediately. They never talked to me privately about the reason/s they were stalking me for so long. I'm glad I left the company. I really don't like working with people with fake intentions trying to find an excuse to approach to me and talk to me.
nah if I was in her shoes, walking alone on a street next to what looked like a beachside, I would be freaking the fuck out and would be ecstatic he was arrested. her being completely calm and brave about it and then saying "he's gonna get the help he needs" is insanely inspiring. it definitely takes the soul of a super strong individual to walk anywhere far alone, especially an entire country. Hopefully, she makes it soon!!!
i hope so too! and hopefully one day everyone can live in an environment much safer to walk around in :)
We consider it strong because she lived and wasn't harmed. If she actually was attacked, then we'd have called her incredibly stupid, which goes to show that it's not so much bravery more than bravado honestly, I don't think she truly understood just how bad it could have gotten, seeing how she chose to walk by the dude purposefully. That had to have been one of the stupidest things ever to do in that situation. She should have called authorities much sooner.
idk how this blows peoples minds.....
@@KingPinguofDingu I find your comment incredibly strange, maybe we just run in such completely different circles in terms of what media etc we consume, but the type of comments I would fully expect to hear, if she were hypothetically attacked, the narrative wouldn't shift to victim blaming as you said, but calling her a "hero" and "survivor" for.. well, surviving such a traumatizing event or experience. Just to clarify, I'm not outright calling you wrong. I'm sure there are people who would say that. People and their responses range the entire spectrum, but I'm just saying, that in my own personal experience, those are the comments I most often see or that stand out to me, and your experience seems to differ. Interesting, albeit weird, I guess. Kinda.
@@KingPinguofDingu I also agree it doesn't feel like the best idea to walk directly by the dude.. I mean, cmon, at least cross the street. That's literally like a common saying for a reason. But yeah, fuck dude. It's always, always better to be safe than sorry. I don't want to pretend to assume too much, but just how casual and calm she was to do something like that, gives me the impression that she's never experienced being assaulted or ever made to feel you've had your sense of safety ripped away from you. Speaking from someone who's grown up and always lived in a really bad area, you just don't take these kind of risks. And at least in my experience, I believe I even heard Mike Tyson say something very similar in an interview about his childhood.. That, being jumped, at least has the possibility, it may not happen to everyone but certainly did to me, that it takes this sense of safety and security you once previously had, and you can never truly, fully get it back. It only takes a moment for you to realize just how vulnerable you as a human, and all human beings are, and how quickly someone can make you feel powerless and defenseless, if not take your life away, it only takes an instant. And that shit can be and is deeply scarring. I haven't been in a fist fight since roughly half my life ago, something like 14yrs? and I STILL look over my shoulder every several feet, constantly vigilant and taking in my surroundings, always noting where exits are in stores and buildings. Idk, I guess I wouldn't exactly wish it on anyone, but to see someone so careless and not cautious in the slightest, I don't really entirely know how to feel. Almost a slight envy that her reality is one I could never go back to, but should at least be tweaked for the sake of her safety.
She should've immediately called the police once the pattern of stalking was established by the chat. She's lucky he didn't actually decide to do something terrible to her during the stream because really insane stalkers don't care about cameras watching them.
they might not care, but the police would at least be able to have a lead to what happened to her if something did ever happen
@@PunkRatSoda and if she was killed, at least the police would have a lead on him right? great logic
@@TurtleTofu Yes? Would you rather she didn't record and he got away scot free?
@@PunkRatSoda No one is saying that. The comment is saying the police should have been notified once they realised he was stalking her. Recording it wouldn't have protected her if he did decide to do something, the police could have stopped him before anything happened.
Exactly my point, people are saying she handled this really well, but in my opinion she didn't notify authorities soon enough. He had ample time to actually do something to her before she actually told the police about this. She's lucky he didn't do anything sooner. And the fact that she walked by him? She's super stupid. She's either confident in her abilities to fight back if something does go down (which is a mistake on her part, unless she's a professionally trained combatant, which doesn't seem to be the case at all, and even in such a case, most practices will teach you to just avoid such situations altogether), or she's just highly ignorant on the possibilities.
this is something straight out of a horror movie, feel so bad for her
Bro his computer need a Oscar for having that many tabs💀
4-5 hours being stalked wtf. Jinny sees some weirdos. She's a tough gal a lot of people would freak out.
she is an amazing woman glad she is safe if anyone can find the link to that video I would like to watch that video. since I would like to look into something that maybe others have caught about.
I can't imagine American police taking a situation like this seriously, props to them
true
they mindset is literally: shoot anyone who looks dark
The country doesn't matter. The fact of the matter is that the police can't really do anything about a person allegedly stalking someone on public roads unless they make some form of contact with the victim. After all, an isolated stalking incident is damn near impossible to prove. In this case, I'm sure the Taiwanese police were only able to do anything because of the guy's demeanor and how he acted around them, which gave them justification to arrest him. Otherwise, they probably would've just told him to leave her alone and wait till she called again if he continued. It's unfortunate how that works, but from a legal standpoint, stalking usually requires more than someone just being in the same area as the victim for a prolonged period of time, even if it's obvious what they were doing.
@@insidiouslol2682 That is American speaking, in my and I bet many more countries you can call police on a guy that is masked and tailing you for an hour and a half. The police may not be able to arrest the guy right away, but they sure could give him a warning and watch him for a while, and if he tries to continue, then they can arrest him. That is enough in my book.
They'd be like, he didn't do anything so we can't do anything. This is coming from an American.
love the cat and your vids keep it up man
I like how the police arrested the creep like they were taking him to Arkham Asylum haha
Props to Ludwig for setting goals to better his health!!
@david [JohnnyYTwest?!More like PooPoonnyPooPooest] thank you for the full clip where MrBeast commented
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So glad Jinny's safe and the waddlethon is paying off. Its great seeing the majority of people come together for a good cause, and to call out the delusionals when they see them
*Bro had nothing better to do in his free time. What a dumb way to spend your weekend.* 😂
That cat has on point timing.
Love how both Ludwig and Charlie's cats have been jumpscaring them LOL
She said "that guy was following us" thing is we aren't really there with her. If something happened we would only be able to watch and listen. Like when you're on a call with someone and you let your guard down because you feel like someone is with you. Sucks that as women we have to be so aware and careful all the time!
Most crime happens to men not women
@@ottomanpapyrus9365 yeah OK 👍🏻
@@ottomanpapyrus9365 By other men. Why are yall always starting crime?😂😂
@@insecticaa It's a longer explanation but the short answer is testosterone
@@ottomanpapyrus9365 robberies and typical violence probably happens to men the most (I’m assuming), but sexual crimes happen to women a lot more often. I’d rather get robbed than r*ped but both would be extremely terrifying and it sucks that there are so many people who have such little compassion or respect for others that they’d harm people who’ve done nothing wrong to them. This is also pure speculation, but I think women fear being violent crimes more than men (even if it’s less likely) because on average we feel weaker, or at least smaller. Many men, even if they can’t, probably feel like they could take on a criminal.
Twitch Chat saved her life no cap
I think i like your long form videos better than short
At this point I wish Jinny would hire some security for herself. I'm sure it's a hassle in itself and not the most fun thing. But she already had to deal with so many weird and bad situations that it would be better. She got scammed on the street, really weird fans interactions, people trying to steal her stuff, now this.. it's starting to be a lot and it is worrying
Not just trying, in Chile someone on a motorcycle snatched her phone and sped away.
@@toms7219 Ah, don't worry, that's just a normal day in South America, ain't got nothing to do with her
Or have a male friend join her on these trips. I'm not a streamer and there's some places I just wont go alone, period. Sucks this is the world we live in but we've got to look out for ourselves.
@@shinjite06 I always find it crazy how people just expect women to NOT do completely normal things like Walk Down The Street Alone Like An ADULT or else she'll be harmed, because misogynistic hate crimes are SO PREVALENT that we don't even call them "hate crimes"
@@jadecoolness101 THANK YOU its so upsetting that we have to have a male companion so that nobody will harm us -_- misogyny sucks
Twitch chat really pulling through this time. It goes to show when shit gets serious, they stop trolling and help. She's got a good community
Twitch good trolling vs IRL bad troller xD
The power of simping.
@@josephbolt6203 or caring for a fellow human
@@henriklindberg1646 A human you've never met before in your entire life, and probably staged this whole thing for views. That's simp behavior.
@@eatass7746 on god there is no hope fot you lol
1:19 when he said a guy showed up, the cat was instantly like "I gotta listen on this" 😂
playing ‘every breath you take’ whilst walking past someone you know is stalking you is crazy badass
Well that sucks that she had to deal with that, but at least it's a happy ending with no worries about him coming back and the hope that he will get the help he needs.
I always love it when a bunch of random strangers like Twitch Chat come together to do something great or wholesome like this, since the stigma is usually "chat rooms are bad".
To be honest whenever this happens to me, i first, stay still, look at them as if i'm the stalker, if they stop then okay onto the next step, i walk into a direction, if they walk in to the direction i was walking towards to i'd go the opposite direction, and then STARE at them, if they happened to "forget something" (this happened before..) i'd go away in their "path finding" and watch them.
"Because she's walking around the WHOLE DAMN BITCH!" Made me laugh
We must not forget that while Twitch chat is usually a collective hivemind of some of the most deranged people on this planet, they are still smart and perceptive enough to be a danger detector when they notice something off in the stream. Never underestimate how much they care about their streamer.
Twitch chat is unadultered, unfiltered human nature
I would NOT have handled it that well, props to her holy shit😅
Zack Morris with a web cam, a microphone, enjoying the sound of his own voice.
this is the perfect plot for a found footage horror movie
The pure irony of him playing “Every Breath You Take” (which has the lyrics “every step you take I’ll be watching you”) whilst watching her walk
Dunno if he was playing it or if it was playing on her phone like the California song earlier
He wasn't playing it you moron she was 😂😂 because it was all a joke to her
She was playing it because of the situation.
Well the song's about the stalker's pov after all🙊
Wow I haven't heard about this chick in a LONG time, glad chat was actually helpful in this
I watch her streams or clips sometimes just for the entertainment and she's had many close encounters lately. her phones been stolen while streaming several times the past year alone right out of her hands. I don't understand why she still travels alone, she's crazy and i worry something really bad will happen eventually. I mean for a single attractive women to basically be broadcasting where she is all the time while traveling alone is asking for trouble. I hate that we live in a world where in this day and age bad shit happens but it does.
@aMiFiii i stopped watching her streams for the same reason. They're so stressful to watch.
@aMiFiii Shes good at staying calm, but makes questionable choices. She knew the guy stalked her for hours but still walked towards him to go past him. I wonder why she didnt turn around and go back to the cafe or somewhere.
@aMiFiii "her level of irresponsibility" nice job blaming someone for wanting to walk 👍
@@idontknowwhattoputhere371 Do you look left and right before crossing a road when the lights are green for you? Maybe sometimes you don't, but if I had a child, I'd tell it that whenever they cross the road, they should look if a car is oncoming. And if they didn't, I'd shout at them for being careless. Would I be "victim blaming"? Taking precautions is smart. Just because by law, you aren't doing anything wrong, doesn't mean that you aren't endangering yourself. If someone falls down the cliff because they stumble on the edge, while they could be walking further away from it - is it smart? If I say, they are dumb for doing that - is that "victim blaming"? Maybe we ought to victim blame people a lot more.
Happens all the time in certain Asian countries with Twitch streamers. Seen many clips in Japan with people sexually assaulting them or punching them in the face.
If your being stalked get somewhere safe like a restaraunt wheres people so there is a lot more safe if there cause kidnapping just wouldnt work there.
She’s being blamed (not by lud) for this guy being a creep? Women or anyone but especially women should be allowed to freely walk around anywhere. Pls think before blaming people for things they shouldn’t help. It’s not her job to keep people from being creep freak aholes
who is blaming her?
Her job isn't merely being a woman either. Her job is being an internet celeb and filming 24/7, so people she's trying to wring money out of will get obsessed with her, will know where she is at all times, and will definitely wear clothes hiding their identity because they know cameras are rolling. Movie celebs or politicians have been really picky about going outside forever due to obsessed masses always having dangerous individuals, and streamers still casually walk alone in the middle of nowhere giving their whole precise location to everyone at all times, while making sure to entertain their viewers' parasocial relationship. Whoever you want to blame for this, it's not about "women should be allowed to whatever", because that definitely didn't happen because she was a woman. It happened because she was someone with a huge following, having no other skill than just being attractive, outing her location to everyone, including the most vulnerable / mentally unstable people among her viewers. You can blame the guy all you want for his behaviour, and definitely should, but that won't casually stop without adressing the bigger issue.
@@vvey4523 I see what you are saying... Dudes have been very creepy and scary towards me a couple of times and I'm just an average girl with no following or anything like that. Creepy men follow you when you are just trying to live your life and just walking during the day and going to the metro or something. Maybe her job makes it even worse, but honestly this is not that rare for non famous people. I'm too scared to walk alone in big cities because of experiences like this. Maybe her filming herself and having proof of what's happening is somewhat helpful, rather than being all alone and just calling someone who can't even see anything.
@@vvey4523 and I disagree with the part that "this didn't happen because she's a woman". It definitely did happen primarily because she's a girl. This is common even for non famous women, while men, even the ones who stream, don't have to deal with this. And talking about it and judging creepy dudes won't change anything, I know that, but honestly some things men don't understand about women. Just like I don't understand many struggles men have to face everyday, many guys also underestimate how often creepy stuff happens to girls. I think men are under a lot of pressure nowdays and society is too harsh on them, and also women often don't feel safe. We face different problems and it's good to listen to each others struggles to help each other.
@@kateginger Well you know, carrying pepper spray, avoiding getting paranoid (because men do walk faster than women and will inevitably "follow" / catch up to them, and you'll end up seeing stalkers wherever you want to see them, which leads to unnecessary feelings of insecurity), and moving to low criminality places help. Besides that, I'm pretty sure the stalker in this video is one of her viewers, the behavior sells it. It's not like he was randomly following women in the area cause they're women, he knew her and wanted to get her attention.
What surprise me more than anything is that the one that called the police managed to state so well and expose his concern for the girl that the police actually attended instead of dismissing it as a weird online stuff (although I don't know how the Taiwanese police handles themselves, maybe they are good and know these cases could end badly)
Taiwanese police take things a lot more seriously than American police. America's police are often terrible at their jobs (though there are good ones).
i love how the most rewatched part of this video is ludwigs cat jumping