502 NBA Open Court - Decades

It's because he's black.

Cody As a black man Im seriously offended .... that no one else said this, the original white chocolate, Ernie “Elevator Ern” Johnson

He ain't white he's lightskin lol

Jorden Sampson ozgiuuyu

Ernie is the Boss! He should have another show called... “Ernie J’s Couch” If I may quote the starter, the very 1st guest of the Couch. The Bad Boy Isaiah Thomas... “Maaaaaaaaaaaan C’mon!!!” C’mon Man! Ernie J’s Couch would be a killer! I’d watch it for sure! Would love to see Sir Charles’ Couch! Barkley, The round pound from downtown! OR Denis “The Worm” Rodman’s Couch...

Zeke’s beef is bad because there’s actual hatred there lol. Shaq and Nash are able to still talk to each other lol

Zeke has a point tho, he was the best player on those Detroit championship teams and was the greatest pg behind only magic. fair enough If mj or bird or magic said no but to have Scottie or any of the others is disrespectful to how good he was

I love the way he says “Well you know, it’s been on my mind.. about 25 years..”

thanks to Nick Anderson's 4 missed crucial free throws in G1 of the 1995 NBA Finals hahahaha

Nick Jackson lmao

@@RedWarrior081 that would only change the outcome of one game if he had made them though

@@RedWarrior081 Nick the Brick... :-)

This was the part that killed me.

When Kenny speaks everybody is annoyed, a mark of less intelligent person.

i agree Brent Barry is straight up and honest, amazing BBall mind

Brent's clearly there for his mind. He was raised by a HOF which is the one thing these actual HOFs dont have. But props to brent. He used his dads iq and genes to carve out a 14 yr career and is currently vp of the spurs' worst season in 30 years

I think it’s more of an awkward silence

@@anzelatoleikyte2083 hahaha Kenny wasn't even there and he still annoyed us!!

"What position did he play?" "I don't know."

Mentioned eric snow but no d wade

For a few seconds..i was like "who???" oh yeah him.

GOAT shooter Eric Snow

@@joshnaround_9463 bench😂😂😂

I agree. Just watching/listening to this is so interesting, it just feels authentic. No Stephen A Smith saying "I know this guy, I love him like a brother" over and over.

Jinjo Ghost Yea ....stephens great.....i love him, ive known that guy forever

Sigh.... I've known him for a long time. He's a good dude. He's a close personal friend. And by that, I mean somebody who I have seen play on television, but have never actually met. LOL Nah, but for real, that's why I love "Open Court" as a series, because it gives a unique persepctive from the *PLAYERS*... Whether you agree with their views or not, they feel more authentic because they've actually lived and breathed the game, both on AND off the court. Also, the panelists consist of a good mix of both stars, leaders, AND role players, so the discussions feel more rounded.

true

Alot of them are really, really dumb and biased. Have you seen Pippen's and Barkley's all time lists or statements? Absolutely useless.

except he never averaged that

@ 40:00

"I'm mad Penny had Little Penny" I was dying.

@@ChrisJames-cy3gc Shaq should be a stand-up comic. He's a LOT better than most so-called current comics.

T K I Miss What he Exactly Said about Phil Jackson. Something about Weed . But What Exactly?

No he ain't he just played NBA Live and smoked weeed, that's howya learned things ,see

@@monolithgeometry3221racist

@@selfishstockton6123 I see you really liked your comment 😁

Really wise soul right there. Cool listening to him talk about the ABA/NBA transition, especially with his dad having roots in the ABA. Really great episode yet again, awesome show!!

@@greatomeister675 whats that got to do with anything.....

He felt like an outsider. Everyone was joking around and being goofy and Barry goes all serious and kills the mood

@Ry Guy dogwhistle af

Tom Flaherty he knows the game. I would’ve had Ricky Barry and Dr. J at the forwards.

Qiao Li bill russell is the greatest big man of all time

bill? u mean wilt

Qiao Li Yao ming and dikembe matumbo are the better big man

kody scot no he means bill

Best big man is Olajuwon

Isiah still probably seeing some stars after what Malone did

Then you can hear tf wrong with you faintly lol

Didn't know that, learn something new EVERY day!! Thank you for stating that

Racial bias. If be was black he’d be talked about more

I do think if him & Tracy McGrady didn't get hurt they would be remembered as two of the greatest of all time.

Lebrun James my favorite player but that was my favorite play of all time

No doubt. He was the shit back in that era.

Grant Hill was Lebron (playing style wise)

@@oN3xShOtxkilL Stupid comment... as Grant Hill CLEARLY came 1st. How is Grant Hill gonna be LeBum when in 95 Bron was like 10 years old

Same here

shaq is the only guy on the panal who keeps up with modern times

Ernie waddup cuhz, waddup boiboi 😂💀

Yup...him and his cousin j-Will ,😎🤣😅

Always about race with you yanks

is that good ?

You are correct! Don't forget about Andrew Toney also.

Dude Adrian Dantley is the most underrated

- Alex English - Sidney Moncrief - Shawn Marion

Amar Skelly agree. Terrell Brandon is another name nobody ever mentions.

@SHERROD ole T-rex looking jumpshot 😂

Rajan Bansal I swear Shaq is so straightforward

As a suns fan I remember this game it’s even funnier now knowing grant told Jason Richardson that.

Tim duncan and nowitski were deserving

Blame Ernie he voted for Nash lol

It is a travesty but kobe bryant for the most part was splitting votes with shaq when both of them were superstars in the same team and by the time shaq went to miami kobe was great but his team were hovering around the 6-8th seeds. Shaq actually had higher chances of winning it. But the best record in the league was a very big criteria and nash had a lot to do with that

Wilt didn't win MVP when he averaged 50pts per game in 1962. Oscar Robertson averaged a triple double in that same year and still didn't win MVP

how is he underrated? He is a consensus top 5 PG of all time

Fucking Millennials

Hate him or love him but if you factor skill and accomplishments you gotta put Curry 2.

Isiah is many things. Arguably 2nd best PG ever. Underrated is not one of those things.

Best point guard of his generation.

He had me wondering why he thinks he belonged in the 90s conversation, Hakeem, Malone and Robinson all ran him out of the playoffs in the 90s. He doesn't belong on the 90s list. That guy ALWAYS makes it about himself.

@@markbrinton6790 stfu

Jasen Effendy Olajuwon schooled Shaq, get out your feelings

@ 33:25

@@jaseneffendy17 gee, brilliant response. That did happen. Why so mad kid?

And all of them played great defense.

@@jonathanblaze1648 except Shaq LeBron and ai

Mrudula Lele u crazy lol

@@dallasd214M hes right about lebron and ai

Yeah but the sad thing is theirs only one basketball

Casey Cantey *Dominique* Karl Malone was possibly the best PF in the world in the 1990s.

Isiah is the corniest dude in sports he laughs at everything he says can’t stand listening to him

Yeah guy won 2 mvps in 90s .. Isaiah a bitch

I thought Dennis was right

Ace Harris Barkley was better. Better rebounder, better all around scorer. Barkley could score from all 3 levels. Never had a great PG like Stockton to feed him easy buckets. Malone just took better care of himself so he had more longevity

Of course. He was an incredible athlete with all def, off, right pass, IQ. A beast

DEFINITELY!!

"PREACH"

80's was no joke gotta remind the kids :)

mmafan2223 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Sadly, there will never be basketball like the 80's again. we were taught growing up in Detroit in the early 80's to play like the bad boys even before the bad boys existed. guy comes down the lane, make him pay and send him to the hospital. its just how it was. the reason it changed is just like regular tv, the lions share of women viewers didnt take to it. once you lose women viewers, the programming changes. ever think of this? in real life you see older guys with much younger hotter girls. but you dont see it on tv. for a reason.

The women? No one wants to watch the hacking basketball of the 80’s and 90’s and end up watching free throw contests. And if the only way you can stop someone is to hurt em, you don’t belong on the court anyway.

Love Kevin

Chris Land Charles Barkley said that he was the toughest To guard.

Nah, Barkley was better

Understandable. He’s the step child of that era. He battled the “darlings” MJ, Magic and Bird his whole career and doesn’t get his just due for beating them. He deserved to be on the Dream Team over Stockton but was kept out. That’s a lifetime memory he was denied. I’d be salty too lol

@@jonnykilroy9762 he and Stockton both deserved to be on the team. It's Pippen who didn't deserve it.

Eric Thomas Stockton was deserving but not over isiah. And someone like Pippen had to be on that team given Bird’s condition at the time. Magic and Mullin were already defensive liabilities and even as great as MJ was he couldn’t guard the whole perimeter by himself lol

Thomas comes off as whiney when it comes to Pippen.

@@jonnykilroy9762 i feel you

Amazing player

He was so great that nobody has taken what he did and surpassed him overall since. Of the modern players that most resemble him, they each only learned a fraction of his game; Curry's shooting range and handle, & Nash's passing and pace.

And passed away way too early

Thomas. Walter alcohol problem due to his mother’a passing. He had a sad life, but he was truly happy playing basketball. He retired as a Celtic, imagine if he and Bird played together in their primes? That’s multiple championships guaranteed.

He also did it without carrying the ball like guys today.

I like the admiral but no way he's better than the dream But shout out to D-Rob

@@Peakfreud no one said he was. However I would kick Malone out the lineup, move Hakeem to the 4 and start Robinson. Dominant post, especially defensively

@@jasonpierce2024 Now were talking yeaaah, I like it - it should be best starting 5,after all. Shaq teams were getting swept in the 90s ,let's not forget

What does little penny mean?

31:40 ... "You can't say NOTHIN'!"

"What?" 28:18 Had me dying!

Soundin' like Lil Jon lol

Ro

Jordan kills it all

have you watched the whole thing?

Moses is the center of the 1980s, has to be. They give it to Kareem here, but there's a lot about the 1980s these guys are forgetting as they all take turns kissing Isiah's behind. Kareem couldn't handle Moses, Moses won two MVPs to Kareem's one in 1980, and Moses' Sixers swept the Lakers in the 1983 Finals. It has to be Moses.

At the end of the day for the Lakers, it was about Magic Johnson. Nobody's rushing to put Michael Cooper on the All-Decade team, and he has those same five rings Kareem won with Magic (btw, I think Cooper should be in the HOF, very underappreciated all-world defender who Bird said gave him the most trouble). Kareem was outplayed badly by Moses in the 1983 sweep by the Sixers. Parish got him in 84. Hakeem beat him him 86. Plus, these guys have Kareem as their center for the 1970s. I don't think Jabbar or Dr. J should have two decades. I watched the Bucks' Marques Johnson outplay Doc many times in the early 1980s and Bird dominated the middle years. There should be a one decade rule. In that sense, Kareem and Dr. J and Rick Barry WERE the 1970s in the NBA, so that's easy. Jordan then, should cede the 1980s to Sidney Moncrief, the only other choice at the 2 guard.

***** Offensive boards its not close at all - 7382 to 2975 (4000+ for Kareem if you estimate for the years the NBA didn't track those). Total rebounds per 100 possessions - 17.4 for Moses, 13.1 for Kareem - again, not too close. Total rebounds stats were always kept, so that's all of them for Jabbar.

***** Kareem played in 105 more games and wasn't considered a great rebounder in the 1980s. The raw number doesn't make your case, so whether it's a fact or not is irrelevant. And of course you can estimate if you make conservative estimates based on known performance. Based on kareem's numbers 1974-1977, we can conservatively say he had a minimum of 3 offensive boards a game and almost certainly more given the 115+ pace and the 42+ minutes per game KAJ was playing. At minimum, KAJ had 4000 career offensive rebounds. In the 1980s, the decade at issue, all rebounding counted: KAJ - 5980 total REB, 1563 ORB source permalink for KAJ: www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/abdulka01.html#1980-1989-sum:totals Moses - 10269 total REB, 4224 ORB source link: www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/malonmo01.html#1980-1989-sum:totals Moses All Pro in the 80s: 7x Kareem All Pro in 80s: 6x Head-to-head in playoffs - 2x, 1981 and 1983 Moses wins: 6 KAJ wins: 1 Lakers eliminated by Rockets (1981) and swept by Sixers (1983). Moses wins the 1980s. The Open Court guys clearly dissed Moses in this video. Don't make the same mistake!!

How old u think he was lol

I was shocked to hear that

He looks younger than every single one of them

he is not from this planet :)

There is an episode where EJ was surprised when Shaq mentioned having trouble with Big Country

Rick Smits too

Josh Jackzone he is the all time steals and assists leader too! By a long shot too.

@@rampantcolt oh yeah I knew that but good point. He is also one of my all time favorite players.

@Samuel Brown what are you saying

@nfatai rata...no he doesn't dumbass..

He knows the 70s more than everyone in his panel because his dad is a bad mofo. Yet again, he knew Dr J is better than Rick Berry

Joshua Johnson he was joking with his friend

@@eboooo these folks are dumb as shit

Damn make some friends dude

Shaq has always shown respect to Hakeem, which might have to do with how many times Hakeem schooled Shaq during Shaq's first couple years or so in the league.

@@eboooo That may be the case still would’ve been nice to hear Dennis’s answer before Shaq interrupted him 🤷🏾‍♂️ Smitty said it best “you can’t get every decade” I like Shaq but sometimes he comes across as sensitive if someone disagrees with him. We also see in this episode how salty he still is that Steve Nash won MVP twice.

I dunno, man. Would've loved to see Kenny's reaction to @41:35 LOL

jp3813 well the MVP is a regular season award for example the only unanimous MVP in the history later choked in the finals

The reason A.I. or Kobe have lower %s from-the-field is due to several circumstances: A) for most of their careers both were their team's 1st-options on offense (frequently creating their own shot off the dribble) while Nash's primary role is the distributor -who MIGHT create his own shot - but he's as or more likely to catch&shoot, B) A.I. had diddly to kick it out to for 3s during his title run. He got a young Korver later but then ran into the Pistons or injuries every year since. Didn't mesh well-enough with 'Melo to last. In Bryant's case, in over 20 yrs he had Glen Rice for 1999-2000 and an injury-laden Vladimir Radmanovich in '05-'06. And the ever-intimidating Sasha Vujacic. Oh, and I nearly forgot: C) How often was Nash double-teamed?

Nash is probably the most overrated player of all-time. He was a poor man's John Stockton, and as great as Stockton was, he was never MVP level. That Nash won two when guys like Shaq, Kobe, and Garnett were around is ridiculous.

Still not MVP..dont see it. Plus all you have to do is put a Greg Popovich team in front of him and he folds. he never cracked the top 350 in DEFENSE. *prime example of his lack of defense* 👇 kzhead.info/sun/nrNtk8WHroVsnYE/bejne.html I see how he can be a distributer..buts thats all..

Steve Nash couldn't have made the finals doing what Allen Iverson did. Iverson didn't even play on a team as talented as those early 00s mavs let alone those mid 00s suns.

smegma24 naw

Barry is an intelligent basketball player and analyst.

These are the legends you correctly named spunk boy

Nahhh Smitty is just riding along with the fellas

Thats why its so good for TV though