Old and ruined Winchester 1897 restoration - gun restoration
2023 ж. 28 Ақп.
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In this video, im going to show a restoration of an old and ruined winchester 1897. This winchester model 1897 is a riot gun, but there are the cover of a trench gun. This it was done to raise its price. During this gun restoration video, during i work on this old and ruined winchester 1897, is use only original tecniques to preser the old finishin.
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not a freaking chance
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Maybe I'm wrong, but this has the look of a reasonably well preserved gun that was artificially weathered.
Hmm I don’t thank but just my take on looking how hard everything was on the break down of shotgun
I've watched a ton of these restoration videos. I'd really like to see one on how they rust them up first.
fax another ruined piece for what content?
@@Kluee if you're asking for clarification- the only time I've seen a gun that rusty was in every restoration video. Every restoration video. Every, single restoration video.
@@billdanosky perhaps, the only reason you would see a rusted gun in a restoration video, is because if they were unrusted, they would not need to be restored.
@@billdanoskywell if they were nice and clean they probably wouldn’t need to be restored huh? You’re brilliant 😂
@@gnarcotics_ I just proved this point in the reply above, but I guess your the smartest, genius.
im fully convinced that 90% of these channels oxidize and rust weapons in a matter of a week just to make content videos
Really it's a 1897 they were used in WW1.
He's saying OP is artificially aging the items for the sake of their video...
@@killbeers6890 exactly.
@@robertfandel9442 steel wool in the barrel, also wood NEVER LOOKS this clean after a supposed 100 years of being exposed to the weathering
That KZhead money is to sweet.
No annoying back ground music ✅ Straight to the point ✅ ASMR (debatatble) ✅ 10/10 video i loved the sounds
The best CYMA shotgun restoration ever!
Cyma? Hope you have see the final bro 😉
I do love firearms maintenance, but restoration is another level. As an Ordnanceman, this makes me happy to watch. Great work!
Intentionally Rusted/ Then this guy "Saves this Shot gun" 90% of these comments are praising this dude for fixing something he caused and was untruthful about.
Who cares HOW it got rusty. We're watching a restoration
@@antoinejackson4311 "who care" ?? Really ?... those who love the truth :)
126 year old shotgun still getting it done. R.I.P Mr. Browning, your designs are timeless.
It's probably more like a 26 year old shotgun as it's a riot gun that's been made to look like a trench gun
That one's a keeper! My grandpa had one just like it but sold it in a garage sale for $25 when I was a kid. He told me that he didn't need it anymore because he bought an 870. Luckily, I got the 870, but I sure wish I had that 1897!
SWEET! I was expecting a before and after but not a firing test! Exceptionally cool! I'm glad you kept so much of the original character of the piece. Reconditioned but still looks old. Very nice!
I own one of this exact model! Passed down by my grandfather's grandfather. Really cool to see one bright back to life.
Deliberately aged weapon, was it left in salt water for a couple weeks before this video?
My thoughts, it's rust is off.
More than likely.
@@france_stoneshore2150 It's almost the same kind of rust that was on this bloke's Spas12 video. Man's just destroying historic relics, no shame.
I WISH I could find one in that shape..nice restoration!
More like a very serious cleaning than a restoration. But I'm glad it wasnt polished or anything. That old weathered and pitted look gives it that nostalgic look especially with these old west guns.
It makes me sick when I see old things like this neglected and trashed…makes me happy to see someone putting in the time 😊
You realise these "restoration" channels will deliberately age these weapons for content right? This guy has mistreated this relic just to bring it back to how it was
Surgical band on the stock repair is top notch use of things laying around.
ah yes. My favorite kind of wood: rusted.
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Reminds me of a trench shotgun, that’s my favourite shotgun
It is... Might be wrong but pretty sure it is.. edit:just checked and yes this IS a trench shotgun
It is. Its a Winchester Model 1897. Even had the heat shield/bayonet lug, though he didn’t do any kind of refinishing of that part, unfortunately. Yeah, my favorite shotgun too.
That is the trench gun. Iconic
@@Hath.0 indeed
You bet it reminds you a trench gun.... It is a Winchester 1897 trench gun ! I'd like to have one !
126 years old and yet it looks so impossibly modern !!! I really love the way you've retained the original patina !!!
the last 97 winchester pump was made in mid 1957 if u idjuts looked this stuff up before making yr selfs look like dufues u d be better off i have 5 of them one made in 1904
Honestly, thank you for not putting music
Brother soft jaws for your vice please 🥹🥹🥹 Great restoration Glad you got your soft jaws out Phew Looks great 👍 👏👏👏
Nice job! Saved but not ruined by a overzealous restoration. I’m fighting with myself as weather to take my original condition (90% blueing gone) 1897 and convert it to a trench gun or leave it alone! If I come across a spare barrel cheaply(doubt it) I might do a trench conversion to that one. I like the way you do things!
Im in the same boat lol it seems such a tragedy to cut down a nice barrel.
As a gunsmith who has refinished countless guns I like the way you did that it maintains the Integrity of the Piece
How nerve wracking was that first test shot is what I'd like to know lol. Honest to God, my new favorite channel obsession. Remarkable work here, truly an art
BallisticBackyard is simply better.
Glad to see you got your channel back. Thank you for this amazing work. 🇧🇷
I’m sorry, but you MUST refinish the heat shield and re-install it on the weapon.
Heat shield is not original part. Is added for fraud the last owner. This is a riot gun not a trench gun.
@@restaurato6629 thanks
Exactly what I was thinking. Thanks for clearing that up. Gorilla Glue is amazing. I restored 2 completely broken stocks that were broken at the wrist. If you didn't look very closely you'd never have seen the joints. Were you using oxalic acid on the rusted steel parts?
Agree 100%
Just thinking the same thing.
I have my grandfathers 1890’s Belgian made Model 12 12 Gauge Automatic Shotgun. It has been taken Great Care of over the last century and shoots as good today as when it was new.
hope it stays within your family forever
I occasionally receive guns that are badly rusted because they were left in a damp case or picked out of a lake. In every case they had deep pitting. Your gun looks like it has very light pitting. Looks like it was left in the rain for a few days and has lots of surface rust. Very seldom do I see a uniform coating of rust. Still fun to watch.
Yes most of these videos restoration pieces man-made to look super old
Are all these weapons artificially rusted for this channel
What do you think?
Absolutely
My Grandfather owned a gunshop and he'd buy peoples used guns even the rusty ones to fix up, so ive handled lots of firearms that are in rough shape IE rusted through a natural process of time and improper storage... Anyway the guns in this guys videos all have the hallmarks of intentional forced patina. You can just tell when something is real, its hard to explain. But the tell is that its a perfectly even layer of active orange rust that is thin and has not pitted or eaten into the metal. This tells me its recent and also deliberate. Whole guns rarely rust at the same rate, like the tip of the barrel or grip or highpoint surfaces will go first. My assumption is he takes a firearm in probably fair to decent condition, uses vinegar or other chemical agent to strip the bluing to bare metal, then dunks the whole gun in salt water and leaves it outside under the sun for a week. Winchester riot 1897s (in the description he says its a regular model that he added the shield to so its not a real valuable trenchgun) average in the USA around $500-900 depending on condition. IDK where he is located. But you may ask this is wasteful right? But think about it; he got 4.5 MILLION views in less than 3 months on this video alone. He has nearly 1 million subscribers. He has made, by conservative estimates, $45,000 from google ad revenue off this video alone. But probably several times that much. Not counting his other videos, donations, sponsorships, etc. With minimal filming/editing work and a $500 dollar upfront investment and a few hours of his time. This guy is a fucking genius. A deceitful genius, but genius none the less.
I have been saying that for a long time it looks like they were all put into a shake and bake bag
when i was young (in the 70's) an old timer would hand you one of these to see you tear the hide off your thumb when pumped,, it just takes once to learn how to hold one of these knuckle busters properly,,, nice video!
First off, the Winchester model 1897 is not an easy to tackle when healthy,,,but bless you for breathing life back into this ol shotgun. My dad gave me 2, a 32" full and a 20" cyl. I've had them since i was 12. They are not for everyone.
Man those rusty screws sure did come out easy
Thanks I've been looking for this, now I can replace the real one with it in the Spencer Mansion
Great job, Congratulations!!!
I really liked that you chose to leave off the after market vent hand guard. 👍😎
how do u know its after market check ur history ww 1 ww2 korea viet nam these guns where there being used
I hope you clean and reinstall the bayonet mount and heat shield. They are original military issue and are quite rare and valuable.
That’s what I thought.
During the restoration process i write about bayonet lug "this is not an original part of riffle" is added by a gunsmith in the past for fraud the original owner. This is definely a riot gun not a trench gun.
Amazing how this old gun has no pitting whatsoever lmao
Great video. When i was a kid in the early 80's, we had a small gun shop in my town, and they had an original 1897 pump wWinchester with a bayonet. They used to let me hold it, and it is still one of my favorite weapons. The late 1800's to the early 1900's was such an interesting time in weapons development.
The restoration is impressive. What's more impressive is how he puts it back together!
Dang, how long did you let this one sit outside before making the video?
That steel wool did a lot more than I thought it would
Probs cos it's a fake resto job. The gun isn't from that period, and the rust is due to being soaked in salt water for a week.
Your attention to detail is absolutely amazing
Excellent video. Anti-freeze works very well. It does not lose its shape after drying. Axe handles - it'll tighten those up with the same effect also. Best!
Nicely done! I liked the shroud on there, had that Trench Gun aesthetic, but looks good.
The old rusty appearance on this looks rather "fresh" and fabricated !
Yeah fresh rust. Lmao
Most of these videos are using intentionally " rusty" items. It is obvous
The best pump ever made in the world!!! This weapon was rolled in the mud and dust during the war so it was functional again!!!
You restored it *AND* fired it. Respect++
Great entertaining video, funciotionally it works, but from a non-professional perspective, I missed some polishing to make it shiny and easier to sline by reducing the friction
Well done
I miss my Winchester 97. first gun I ever bought. paid 200$ for it while I was camping out in rural Oregon, found it at an antique store. was a solid-frame first year gun, long barrel, full taper choke bore. someone had painted the pump grip some sort of grey, but the stock was still pretty. I cleaned and re-stained the pump grip on a picnic table while camping out in the high desert grassland. ended up using it to drive off a mountain lion during my stay there.
The slide action at the end was beautiful 😍
I’ve never seen so many old rusty guns in my life. How long does it take to let a good gun rust?
Less than a minute into this video and i had to go the the safe, get my 1897 and show her how she will never be treated like this.....shes a queen and deserves the best care and maintenance....by the way, my stock has a smaller chip in the exact same spot. Unfortunately, I dont have the chip.
Would have nice to see the kind of fluids used for the various stages. Good job on making it serviceable again. Looks and functions great now.
I had one just like this. I inherited it from my grandpa. It looked brand new. He took great care of his firearms.
Thank you for preserving this gun's legacy and patina. I once had the privilege of selling one of these in perfect condition from the man it was issued to in WWI. I'll never forget that man , or that gun.
What an incredible result! A highly skilled, clever restoration - truly outstanding work!
I would love to see the expression on the face of the actual maker of this piece as he watches and wonders how it got into this state and then to see it restored. Amazing. Thanks for the video.
This is the best shotgun for the military at the time and I like it
I still have my Grandfather's 1897 to this day.
Me too! Still shoots, take it out every once in a while, run some lite bird shot thru it.
Narration (or subtitles) explaining the chemicals being used would be a huge improvement.
Oh boy, this was super calming, thank you
Bravo. Looks classic.
At 37 seconds you can read Winchester on barrel as he disassembles it. For his $$$ I hope it is real. Nice Job!
So what if its fake, its still enjoyable to watch
Wow! A real conservation resto!
You did such a great job with this restoration, You restored it. well also making sure it still look as if it was properly aged ❤
Great work
My gripe with these type's of videos isn't the fact that MOST are fake its that people don't do a shoot test after the restore as if they don't trust they're own work
Excelente trabajo de restauración de esa vieja escopeta Winchester mod 1897..!! Llegó muy maltratada y muy oxidada, y quedo muy bien, se llevo mucho trabajo y tiempo, si la hubiera pavonado hubiera quedado preciosa..!! Muy buena explicación del desarme paso a paso..!! Muy buen documental..!! Excelente video..!
Beautiful work and attention to detail. Loved watching. But...the heat shield.
I have a a 1897. It was my grandfather’s. It’s in pretty good shape. Don’t know that I would want to run modern shells through it however.
1897s were made well into the 1950s. I have shot hundreds of round thru mine. They were well made guns. early 16 gauge had a short chamber tho. 4those you would not shoot modern shells thru.
dubble 0 buck works great in them
I really enjoyed this
What an absolute treasure!!! Thanks for sharing!!
your a true gunsmith great job from Rhode island
Hello i have an advice for you, if you take two sheet of copper on you'r vice you can hold every pieces of metal without risk of scratch and twist you'r pieces.
I have rubber clamps... you can see the alluminum support
At least it wasn't a real trench gun. Trench guns were not takedown models, they had fixed barrels...
You did an excellent job at restoring that! The original condition that you got it in at that point it would have been just wall art but restoring it to complete working order that's amazing! Most other people would have not have done that most would have tossed it or as I said previously, wall art.
Very thorough, professional, and patient work. Near work!
Old ruined Winchester turned into a restored ruined Winchester
when you fake rust these guns dont you worry you will damage the gun? orange rust = new rust btw
They have no respect for historical artifacts, only views
Ich liebe es, diese Restaurierungen zu sehen 😊
Wonderful old gun. Love the sound of that action!
my favorite shotgun.
Eu gostaria sim de ver tanto a restauração das armas como a fabricação de novas peças das peças da mesma, Obrigado pelo ótimo vídeo.
Beautiful work. Those were carried by many Marines in World War One, the Philippines, and Nicaragua. In WW2, Marines on point carried this weapon or a Thompson Machine gun. Even in The Dominican republic, and Vietnam, The Marines carried these for a time. The Germans in WW1 actually had the gall to complain ( they were the first to use mustard and phosgene gas in artillery shells!) About the shotgun, as you could clear a trench very quickly.
If I could have any hobby I would do this. Seems so satisfying! I wouldn’t even know where to start
Enjoyed your work saving history instead of destroying it
Honest effort...
hardly!!!!! just a waste of everyone's time!!!!!!!!!
I want to go on like this to restore so bad I am going to do a ton of magnet fishing this year hopefully I find one. Definitely on my bucket list.
Awesome job !!! Preserving the " patine " made it all :)
Gostei muito desse trabalho , dessa restauração, principalmente porque a arma tá funcional !
Guns shoot
Ha ha ha
you HAVE to put the heat sheild and bayo lug back on, thats the coolest part about this gun!! this is one on my short list of needed guns that ill probably never get.
I write in the subtitles during the restoration. The heatshield cover and bayonet lug, is added for fraud the last owner, this gun's was sell for trenchgun, but this is a riot gun, and riot gun dont have any heatshield.
@@restaurato6629 i keep subtitles turned off, its too distracting for my brain to not read them, then i miss the video. and theres a difference between a replica and a fraud, you can still have the trench gum look as long as you dont try to sell it at an inflated price by calling it something other than what it is. 👍👍
You did an excellent job. Thanks for the video.
That's one of my favorite shotguns! Great job!
Looks a lot better, but I would have gone a bit further to polish up some of the moving parts to improve reliability. Good work though.
I understand not doing to much in the sense of keeping the gun as original as possible. But did you put oil or anything on the barrel and mechanism to protect it?
We can hope.
Finally a real gun restoration video, also with one of my favorite shotguns
Seeing one of my favorite shotguns getting fixed is wonderful to my eyes