Married to Islamic State: The women Australia doesn't want | Four Corners
In this exclusive Four Corners investigation, the former brides of Islamic State reveal the extraordinary details of their lives in the IS caliphate.
Tracing their journeys from quiet Australian suburbia to the streets of the Middle East and now the al-Hawl camp, the program exposes the network that led them to Islamic State and reveal the key figure at the centre of it.
Their families in Australia are also speaking out for the first time, in the knowledge that going public will bring judgement and attention.
They too, want answers as to how the women came to be living under Islamic State.
In the face of new security laws passed in Australia that could see them prevented from returning anytime soon, the women insist they are not a threat. They are begging the Australian government to let them come home.
Watch the extended interview with Nesrine Zahab here: bit.ly/2marDeQ
And watch the extended interview with Mariam Dabboussy here: bit.ly/2ouqm2Z
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That lack of taking responsibility is a HUGE red flag.
And the ENTITLEMENT is just other worldly. For real.
These Islamic women were BORN into a nightmarish, oppressive, unforgiving, sexist PATRIARCHAL society. Men make ALL the rules. Stop blaming the women and start blaming Islamic MEN.
@@angelwild9145 There's still something about their stories that doesn't feel right. I would like to believe that they are telling the truth, but it doesn't seem to me that they are.
@@clairey6407 very true these woman are very manipulating and playing victim card
@@angelwild9145 women in past did grow up in a word inked by toxic masculinity but look now... Those girls fail to learn from that, their lack of ownership of their actions speak volumes
I have no sympathy for the men and women who went over to Syria but my heart breaks for their children. They didn’t chose it and they have lost so much by the desisions their parents made
True...you nailed it🙏🇨🇦❤️👍
Please ask NYC “Mayor” Adams to get them here. It is a sanctuary city. PLEASE!!!!!!!
@@johngallagher8527 Was the WTC incident not enough for you?
yes what about syrian people where so many childreen dies and or other lose theyre parents because of the west propaganta agaisnt bahar al assad governement
The children didn't decide, I didn't decide to be born in Sarajevo when the shelling started, but I was born. So many children did not decide to be born in Aricka countries where they are dying of hunger, but they were born. Parents decide what name and what kind of life their children will have, these women and their husbands made a decision and now regret it. Maybe only future is to give the children to adoption and never see them again so they can have a "normal life" in Australia
I’m a Muslim but I’m not stupid they knew what they where getting themselves into. Not one of them mentioned the torture the poor Yazidi girls suffered at the hands of there husbands, how they where gang raped how they where held as slaves how they where murdered, how so many innocent people died not one of them mentioned it. Had the IS been successful they would not of been in this documentary. Yes I feel sorry for the kids but my heart breaks for those children that where made orphans due to their husbands and sons. Even hell doesn’t have a place for IS.
i doubt they have any simpathy for the victims of is terrorist attacks in the west such as Berlin christmas market december 2016 or barcelona they'll cry no tears for them it seems to me.
But ur kuran and hadiths are terrible and as long as that exist this continue
ISIS was down and let’s go back to the #1 welfare country.
Some were even sold abroad as sex slaves but somehow those women made all about themselves
@@asilaslapt1510 Islam is peaceful religion but there's ppl who using Islam names to make sure everyone will blame Islam as terrorists
"I have a country... why am I still here? " the fact you don't understand is really the problem
It's not fair, she cried. Well it's also not fair to the person your husband decapitated.
Exactly; they are lying through their teeth. Smh
@Sabahudin Ibn Ibrahim woah woah woah, look who we have here, the guys from the greatest peaceful religion on this planet!, lol
If her husband decapitated someone, he should be held accountable. But again she chose to be with him. That's on her. And unfortunately, she has a part in this.
@Sabahudin Ibn Ibrahim if her husband. Was a decent man she and her kids wouldn’t be living in a hell hole
@@quasarstarpower2858 people in australia married murders all the time or people who kill people do theu throw out those women out the country?
You don’t accidentally find yourself abroad, married and a child in a war zone…
You check videos from ppl all over the world and none of them knew where they were going ~ I understand that’s a plan to get away of any responsibility. I only feel sorry for the children, they shouldn’t be there
@@pulanbear these adult women did not know where they were going leaving their country on a plane?
@@hillary3677 Syria is not a holiday destination. Its camps are not holiday camps.
@@hillary3677 you have no idea how much control some men over their wives. though I understand not all are blameless no doubt somewomen in these camps did this knowingly but some were sadly victims themselves
It's quite possible she thought it was a holiday, to visit husband's family etc and once over there, he drove her somewhere else and announced they were staying longer.
Red flags: - saying Islamic State instead of ISIS - smiling while telling her story like it’s a romatic fairytale - going in to details while describing how she wanted her husband to look like and where he should come from. She seemed very willingly to get married - expressing how much she wanted to get pregnant while living in a warzone - life was “good” at the beginning while living under ISIS. Because they were strong at first of course. - they fled to Al Hol from Baghouz. Baghouz is the last place where ISIS fled to to fight until the very end. Only the diehard supporters went with them. Furthermore, Nisrine annoyed the hell out of me with her “better-than-thou” complex.
They are not "stranded" in Syria!! They chose to emigrate to Syria, so they can just stay there. Too bad, so sad.
"I have a country. What am I doing here?" You tell us, lady
How bad does a religion has to be to do all this in the name of religion - WORST !
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Ban Mosques and Sharia Law Courts. That will greatly reduce the strength of Terrorism
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what's wrong with these women's voices?
I don't like how that father Kamal says these women are "victims" because they had so many kids, or married several ISIS fighters. The actual victims are the Yazidi women. Why are there so few documentaries about them? Why do so many in the west seem so much more sympathetic towards women that willingly joined ISIS than to Yazidis that survived slavery and genocide?
Thank you for saying this ! Nobody cares about them they are not victims!
I bet these women sat and watched their husbands sodomized the Yazidi women.
@Carolynska S There is a price to pay for everything..... what you sow you shall reap ! You choose bd then that is Bad for you ! he world will be better place with those women and their offspring kept in that camp until they die
There are so many documentaries about the yazidi women and people on KZhead. But don't believe everything you see on KZhead a lot of it are lies and propaganda. To sway your opinion onene way.
@@darrenlacy3975 I feel sorry for the kids, I wish they could take them away before they get completley brainwashed too. So many die anyway within a few months, I never will understand this women!
As a Muslim I don’t feel bad for any of these women. Why should we risk everyone’s safety for these women
Respect their culture
"I had nowhere to hide" Good well now you know how your victims felt. She said "I did nothing wrong" The lack of understanding of what you did is why you are a threat. You just proved why you should not ever be allowed back! The govt might decide to let them back in but i can assure you most Australians won't welcome them back nor should they.
What victims?
@@xafsafarah7701 of the group she gave material support to. Dont be obtuse!
It’s like a cult. Most women are coerced and brainwashed into this. Many of them are/were raped, secluded and others. It’s the concept of radicalisation. We have to understand that and be comprehensive. Gosh this comment section depresses me.
She
@@solarose7820 And yet at the end of the day they are responsible for their actions and the consequences of those actions. She chose a zealous man she was complicit in her own radicalisation.
I love how he says "we have a sister who's stuck overseas as the moment". No... she's not stuck overseas buddy, she went there to marry into a brutal terrorist group. She choose that. She has to live with those consequences. End of story.
The 9 Yr old has nail polish on her finger nails??? The kids have clothes and dummys, where did they get them from if nothing is avaliable, want to see poverty and hardship and a war zone look at Somalia camps and the kids there
true.
U tell em Nadine
Preach nadine
These people are joker.
I can't understand how one of this women is complaining about living on a tent. They don't understand how much pain they (ISIS) have caused to a lot of innocent people.
That’s what’s so crazy to me. They never talk or show remorse to the people VICTIMIZED, KILLED and TORTURED by ISIS.
@@interlockin2775 yes. That is what struck me too.
@Blue Bell Christians too
They talked so bad about us western countries and people but when they need help we’re the only one helping em .
Exactly !!!!!!!!!! And I’m sick of it !!
Correct!!! These were stupid young ladies mesmerized by the new-found
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She doesn’t show remorse. She looks happy. For someone who was deceived.
If a single Australian woman is a relative of "many" of the women in one camp.... I have trouble believing they were ALL tricked into travelling there.
BINGO
None of these women take personal responsibility for their actions
Must be tradition same as there men seem amazing at hide and seek
We have one from the UK. Shamina Beghum. She wants to come back but she has been stripped of her citizenship. These women went their chasing the men they saw on the internet
These women take the “I like bad boys” to a whole other crazy level
I keep on thinking: would they have given us mercy had IS been successful and invaded our countries?
Absolutely not unless you converted to Islam.
Nah you an infidel
@@chansunchimsun6004 You are absolutely right. If the Twin Turds Bush and Blair had not invaded Iraq (an act of criminal aggression by anyone's standards), none of this would probably have happened. The Yanks always have to make trouble somewhere or other, and/or interfere in other countries' business. The Yanks always have to have an Enemy, preferably one they can drop bombs on. Always remember that the USA is the ONLY nation in the history of humankind to have actually used TWO atomic bombs. And then they have the infernal gall to complain about Iran. Give me the Iranians any day. They are intelligent people and just so bloody friendly and nice. But no. The Yanks always have to demonise some country or group of people.
No they wouldn't
@@mfjdv2020 perfectly said, couldnt have put it better myself
As someone who’s from the Middle East This is so devastating these ppl were living a life we wish we had but no they sold their houses only to come to our country to destroy the little things we called home
thankyou.. they are foreign fighters (they happily supported fighters in a foreign land...) and don't deserve sympathy it seems.... don't want them back... maybe the UN can set up some camp for them....
@@Gumiho121 ISIS was a direct result of the Iraq war, which was based on lies by the Bush administration, and the interventions in Syria so tbh Nasser has a point. If “we” hadn’t toppled Saddam Hussein then ISIS would not have existed today.
@@cdvz321 actually the Syrian civil war really kicked off Daesh
@Nasser K All that ISIS did has its roots in Quran and prophetic traditions. Stop putting the blame on the other and start taking responsibility for your history and your traditions.
If Australia doesn't want you, Ask Islamic countries for asylum, for example, the Afghanistan current government will be more than happy to take all of you. DO it for your chirdlen.
Exactly
Omg 😆
That is perfect. However, most of these girls and women were duped. We men can dupe women very fast. However, if they are genuine in wanting to live in an Islamic government(like Saudia and Afghanistan) let the UN help. Most governments including Muslim Ones regard them as security risk. Muslims have suffered more than any community from terrorists including being treated as suspects and called terrorists.
@@mohamedasaid7910 Yeah, you here to play victim card?
Hey the women may have been duped or gone willingly but don’t suggest children be taken to Afghanistan especially the female ones. The kids are not responsible for the way they are having to live.
The fact these Australian womans are still speaking with an arabic accent says it ALL.
What do you do ?
Well I agree that they aren’t good people and shouldn’t come back and all. But what has an accent got to do with anything?
@@tanya292 it MEANS there Mentality it Still very Much ISLAMIC. And Not Australian.
Self pity is different to being truly sorry. These women don't seem to take personal responsibility for anything. I do not believe that they knew nothing.
Maybe is true, maybe not. We don’t have any way to know for sure. So that’s why we can’t accept them back. I feel sorry do, for those innocent children who didn’t ask to be born and live in such terrible circumstances.
They are silent support of their own male family causes. No pity to them
You know you just don't walk into syria without knowing anything.
Personal responsibility should central to any legal arguments for repatriating these women or leaving them where they are. If you believe that you can't argue with your husband, even if he's committing a crime, then you are no use to yourself, and no use to the wider society. Infact, these women are a danger to their neighbours wherever they live. Let's not forget, that many of the women in these camps don't come from wealthy westernized countries. So why are the media focusing on the Europeans who think there should be special rules, for them?
They miss tv and Aussie life. Trying to have their cake & eat it.
There’s something wrong with them if they don’t understand why they can’t be trusted to come back home. It’s strange that they don’t see what the problem is and only keep reiterating how much they’ve suffered.
Right? And with no care in the world to the people they made suffer.
Look at most of the women at the meeting all dressed in their 6th century clothing .
I feel their pain, the families. But I feel the pain of the families whose relatives were murdered by Isis, sooooo much more 😢😢😢😢
The crazy thing is, if ISIS was still going strong they would be happy to stay there and fight, ignoring the heads being cut off next door.
Absolutely!! They only wanted to leave when ISIS was wiped out!!
Aussie special forces were discovered to be killing innocents afghans for fun ! Monsters and they are still in Australia !!
@@nabilrise1551 And they are prosecuted by law if they have done such things. Unlike people who followed ISIS Australia has a proper legal system.
Rogah that
Exactly. Only when things go wrong are they suddenly victims. I just don't want to become a victim of their hate
I can't feel sorry for these women . The way that Nesrin was telling her story smiling gave me the chills . Who goes "helping" giving aid to people ,doesn't even bring a bag but brings her passport. The only time she cried is when she told how she was separated from her husband and left alone. I have never ever seen someone telling their traumatic story giggling and laughing. Poor babies though they deserve better.
She's young and naturally bubbly. You should better at judging personalities before you start judging ptsd affected young women
She got happy seeing his father after a long time
She could have helped lots of people in Australia, redcross. No need to go to Syria!
What’s so funny? Oh I know.. your not going bad to Australia
Exactly, watching the differences in facial expressions between the Yazidi women who had everything taken from them vs this interview is so strange. It’s hard to believe she’s had any trauma and that the laughing, smiling etc is ptsd.
It's heartbreaking for the children to also pay the price for the mistakes of their parents. Those poor little kids.
No problem they go jannet.
@@kokildasi8604 they need to live in a clean environment, not a camp full of radicalized people who can still brainwash them while they are still babies. They deserve a life.
Let them live happily there. The life they choose.
The real victims in this mess are the children.
It just makes me hate those traitorous women even more. I’d say most of them willingly brought their children with them to whatever Middle East hellhole they thought they were going to live. Even if they didn’t know they were going to Syria (which I doubt), they had to have known going overseas with their husbands was definitely a huge risk. Plus they know Australia wont have the backbone to teach them a lesson. They’ll be taken back, it’s just a waiting game and, of course, they want their wait to be as short as possible.
Don't let the parents back but allow the children before their disgusting parents brainwash them anymore!
ISIS children are not victims , they are taught by ISIS to become "Cubs of Caliphate" or ISIS Child Soldiers
The only victims!
@@sansansansan7319 That’s what qualifies these children as victims. You, yourself, said “they are taught by ISIS to become...”. Key word “taught”. How can you not understand this concept?
I also love how EVERY one of the brides has an excuse. I was tricked. I was on vacation. I was trying to help. I made a wrong turn. Cracks. Me. Up.
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Yup!filled with any excuse now the Islamic state have lost!😂🤣
That is islam for you,,,,,, always the victim ! Until the knife is in THEIR hands !
ThisorThat Ha, ha, ha!
@@darrenlacy3975 No this is an extremist splinter group from a religion. In a way, if you look at it, western life is so corrupt. The rich getting richer, the poor getting poorer, fascination with stupid celebrities, ripping the planet a new one. No excuse for extremists of any religion and yes IS and Boko Haram and any other extremists should be killed but please don't single out Islam, every major religion is guilty. Atheists are guilty, these days few are innocent.
I love how she at 23:55 tried to explain a "horrible" Situation of being "kidnapped" while smiling into the camera... Her facial expression really tells it all.
It really does not though You cannot predict whether someone is telling the truth based on their facial expression People express themselves differently No studies have been able to establish a correlation between expression and honesty , thats why lie detectord have to measure physiological changes not just expression
@@DerpBane exactly ! I feel so sad for them.
@@DerpBane Plenty of behavioural studies to prove connection and trained behaviouralists can baseline an individuals body language.
@@lilith1971 the commentor doesnt have a baseline of their body language and link one of the studies so I can explain why it doesnt show a correlation that would allow you to assess someone as lying so stridently as in this case
@@DerpBane I was referring to your comment inferring no connection between body language and behaviour , I'm just informing you that it's entirely possible and something that law enforcement and the legal system, defence force and fbi etc utilise constantly. Do your own research.
It is jarring how many parents across the world make excuses for their children.. especially adult children. My mom has always been the type to say "I love you but you have to deal with the consequences. I will not make excuses for you." I see less and less of that.
This is terrifying. If each of these men gets that many family members into Isis... that's a huge national security problem.
Those women are the product of the zio nist west. They should go back to you. You fully deserve each others. Great acting by the way
Denmark needs to step in
Yep…. The radicalization begins at home… These girls were already taught by their families
Somehow I was in Turkey, then magically Syria. Please, part of my Armenian family is still in Turkey, you know you are leaving the border…they cry for their children and fellow women but probably not a tear for Yazidi or anyone else they slaughtered, including Armenians. Stop the pity for butchers
I feel very sorry for their parents. These women were all grown adults who made very bad choices. They've not only ruined their own lives, they've ruined their families lives. Actions have consequences. I migrated to Australia and it's been brilliant to me and my family, I'd never fight against the country that has given me a safe and secure life.
When she went there-she was about 22. In 2018 I was 21. Two girls were slaughtered in Marocco and a video of the act was posted on the internet. I read and article about their deaths and, since I did not believe that such thing could be done and no one could do anything to punish the violent act-I decided to check if I could find that video. I wish I never did. Just thinking about it- I can hear the women screaming in agony. NO HUMAN would do such thing to another! Those people are NO HUMAN! They teach their kids how to hate and for such thing-there is no redemption!
The interview with that lady showed how insane she is. I'm not a certified body language reader here but I seriously doubt that a girl that has been forced into marriage and being told that she will not be treated as Princess and yet she laugh happily. Like sincerely happy. She loves Isis.
Yeah when she cried about her husband never meeting the son. She’s messed up in the head
These women are time bomb. Now they have nothing to loose, they are playing innocent. No countries will take back someone whom will pose a risk of security later
Canada would.
The EU breeds them, 2000 ISIS members have been captured who are from France alone.
Adamantium Scorpion Canada doesn’t want them either, thank god!
for sure....thanks Fumi
they went there themselves and later on they are crying on TV
Snuck away from their families to help refugees in the Syrian conflict. Yeah, right.
That's what RED CROSS and U.N peacekeeper for.I wonder why they couldn't do that
what do you mean by 'snuck'? it's a revolting word. Must originate with the septic tanks.
zunai andre she said it makes her feel good that she helps these Syrians.
very unlikely..and they r Lebanese background..going to help syrians...very unlikely..
@@mfjdv2020 "Snuck" is not really a word in English, anyway. It's a common grammatical mistake. The correct past tense for "sneak" is "sneaked."
(37:50) the fact that they’re all related and arrived at different times kinda makes it obvious that they weren’t tricked or trafficked, they all went there willingly with their families support
they all talk of pity for their family members but never anything about the victims of ISIS
I feel awful for the children, but their mom's chose the life they're living.
@Learn Punjabi I feel sorry for little kids who didn't choose that. Some of those kids are really small. Not their fault. Their mothers however can rot. I don't believe at all that they had no idea where they were going etc.
@@naguoning exactly I don’t understand why people join isis like what good do you get out of joining isis nothing they should not go back to there country
And should rot there forever. They are potentially terrorists in waiting
You are all jaded these are innocent children and they should be taken away from there and given a proper chance in life.
@@naguoning offsprings of them should be drowned not sympathy
They are only talking about their pain and pretending that they know nothing about the brutalities carried out by their husbands. Never let them in!
I would say they must be punished...
Exactly.. exactly!!! Facts
When you witness a murderer and murders.. in any country.. your charged with accessory to the fact... Keep them out point blank ! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Don't let them back. If they return to Australia, they should be rounded up
Punish them
I have no sympathy for them. They rotting in their own self made hell.
As interesting as these docu’s are, there’s a lot of them. Giving women who WILLINGLY joined a platform. Yet there’s thousands of Yazidi girls and women forced into that life and there’s barely any converge on them. I’d much prefer to hear their stories of survival and these girls’. Now their young kids are a different story, they had NO say in this and I’d gladly welcome them back to my country.
There is a lot of coverages about Yazidi girls . I can provide you with links ... but they are very heartbeaking stories .
There is a difference between those who are forced and these traitors who joined on their own accord. They are traitors. Only their children should be rescued, so that way the kids can get educated and be spared a horrible life because, unlike their parents, the kids didn’t have a choice.
A family member says: Bring them back to Australia, set up confinement for them here, then deal with the legalities here. That's a brilliant idea....NOT!!! Why should this be dealt with on Australian soil? Who the hell do you think will have to pay for this? Harding working every day Aussie tax payers! NO THANK YOU!!! I pay my way to live in this amazing country I call home. They left Australia to live this life, not our problem. They made their bed, they can now lie in. Nesrine......way too happy for my liking and the most painful interview I've ever watched. All smiles, life there can't be that bad for her.
Couldn’t that just be PTSD? I agree that her manner was quite inappropriate relative to the situation. But she’s seen and experienced things us Westerners have no idea of. I think her manner is the result (at least partly) of trauma. I know lying is allowed in Islam if they feel it’s in the service of their goals and religion. So I can believe their husbands lied to them. And anyone with eyes can see women would be traumatized by this situation. But there are lots of holes in their story. You vacation in Lebanon?? Ok, maybe. But you just blithely trip along, offering “aid” on the Turkish border and happen to trip into Syria and end up an ISIS bride? Yeah, um no. I’m American and we have American ISIS brides wanting to come home too, claiming they’re victims. I don’t think ANY ISIS bride should ever be allowed home as they pose a grave security threat. To do so would simply be to foster ISIS sleeper cells at home.
@@SmartPracticeSuccess I agree with your points highlighted. PSTD or sheer nervousness being interviewed. Dont' know, either way, she wasn't doing herself any favors and something just wasn't right. I too noticed a few holes in their stories. The whole time I kept thinking, it doesn't make complete sense that one minute your here, only to then come to the realization you're in Syria. Pull the other one! When you're in a situation like this, you know exactly where you are at all times, every minute of the day. I'm not buying it. The risk to return them is putting our own people and country at risk. They should have thought about that before leaving. I was also shocked to see how many children had been born whilst there. Baffles me as to why you'd want to have babies, after babies, after babies. If the conditions are so bad as they say it is, why keep having one baby after the other? Just ridiculous. Maybe it's their next brood of ISIS fighters?
@Don K back in 1788 it began & safe to say we've all moved on into the 21st Century living our lives in harmony, diversity & peace. These people will never stop fighting and will continue for years to come so NO WE DON'T WANT THIS BROUGHT BACK TO OZ SOIL!!!!
They were young women that made a mistake. They are Australian as much as anybody.
I understand where your coming from. However, each person on Planet Earth has to hang on to hope even though dark times and tragedy. It doesn't mean she's necessarily "happy", but it may mean that I'm trying to make the best of it. I see the children suffering the most.
All I hear is “my husband died, now I’m upset.” There is no other sorrow except the loss of their husband. No sympathy for the war they joined nor feeling bad about their Choices. No sorrow the loss of other lives. I bet if their husbands where still alive and well they’d be content and not want to leave. These women need to stop playing the victim card.
They chose to go...let them face the consequences.
Why would you throw away a life and opportunities you had for something like this? I would love to know what goes on in these women's heads.
"We are clueless parents." Never a truer word spoken by a complete liar.
Radicalization starts at home… Most of these parents are hard line Muslims themselves
@@fern7306 most muslims dont consider these people as muslims.. chill out
Init. He knows what he did to her
I think she said it right, at the end, when she said "they have their laws" distancing herself completely from normal Australians, they have THEIR laws, not we have our laws
She didn't distance herself , all she wanted is to help people. She has been kidnapped and force to marry. This all happened against their will
@@yasminsayyed5343 ...................... When are you going to settle in Afghanistan.... :). Good place for true muslims.
or it could be because she knows her Country is against *her going home*, so she's talking to the *ones that are against* the idea of bringing her home.
@@yasminsayyed5343 actually she said she fell in love are you deaf?
Lol. She fell in love. Hahahahahhaha
I’m interested to know if any of their family members who live in Australia had any knowledge of their daughters ties to ISIS and if so how much of a role they may have played?
These women spend so much time telling each other how unfair they have been treated that they forget what part THEY played getting themselves into the situation
Lies, lies and more lies. From every single one of them including the parents too. Despicable.
You write ,, lots of lies
I've worked in the UK penal system for 30+ years and have become pretty adept at picking out liars these two are positively lying.
I Ching 🤔
UK penal system... a pinnacle of success 🙄
@@bestofmusicchannel were you meant to reply to me? That response doesn’t even make sense, complete non sequitur
@@lzw3 There you are i deleted my post if that made you feel not ok.
Obviously
If they go to prison, tax payers will have to support them. Let them stay there
Shes laughing the whole time while being interviewed like it's some crazy cool story or something. Doesn't seem upset or show emotion at all except smiling and laughing.
Imagine if ISIL was still around and winning. I'm sure they'd be singing a very different tune to what they're singing now.
exactly!!! im sure they think they are fooling somebody lol fools to themselves
You are beautiful
How does corona feels loosers!
They are very deceptive. It is acceptable in their religion to lie and cheat non-muslims. They present a very sinister cruel face in places where they have an upper hand. When they are at a disadvantage, they are servile and will try to fool you with the cunning tricks. NEVER get them back to your country. Allow them to rot in their paradise
I don't understand this thinking. How many run away girls end up in prostitution or somehow trafficked partly because they left home and need half way homes to help them get out? There's all sorts of groups like Narcotics Anonymous - set up realizing that people need redeeming. These girls are incredibly young - there's no way they fully understood what they were getting themselves into (whether they were tricked or not). They have more than suffered and served their own prison sentence for their decisions - and the children - why should they be punished?
Not only a danger to Australia but to whole humanity!
@Nasser K Yea everyone is lier only muslims are telling the truth 🤦♂️😂😂. Go enjoy your new regime established in Afghanistan.
@Nasser K your backward green plague will never take over this world! Stop dreaming at a "muslim universe" and show respect for other religions and cultures! Oh, wait! In the toilet paper, called "quran", they don't teach you about this, of course!
@@maryoo7131 no
I don't feel sorry for these women
God help the children who are innocent of their fathers’ and mothers’ choices.
I agree
@@juicymullet585 its not their fault though
African children are also suffering in poverty and civil wars owing to their parents, please consider raising voice for them too. Bring entire Africa to Australia!!!
No she’s fine. She can be Syria’s princess. If you were traumatised you would be pleading and even though it was excruciating you would tell your story and you would help the authorities if need be. She smiled and enjoyed telling her story of being a princess and finding an Australian IS husband.
my thoughts exactly .... she is a liar
I can’t stop laughing at this it’s funny but messed up 😂
I'm having a hard time feeling sorry for any of these women. You followed these men around like little dogs depending on them completely whilst bringing children into a war....... I don't believe that every single one of these women were tricked. And they have the nerve to ask what they have done wrong and wonder why they are considered a threat.
I guess it didn't turn out to be as glamorous as they expected. Oh well, some decisions just can't be reversed
100%
43:00 she s asking why they been detained???? No why would they take you back!! Probably her son will act like his dad
I agree. They really tried to gain sympathy didn't they, their living conditions and these poor kids. You've got be a fool to sympathize them without questioning they themselves brought on all this hardship an they won't admit it. It's everyone else's fault, the guys who "tricked" them and the Australian government for not taking them back
It's known the Kurds (The brave people who guard these savages) have said the foreign quarters in ISIS detainment camps were the more radical.
Very difficult situation ...these ladies choosen to be part to the Islamic state and married men who are fighters now they want to come back to the safe and democratic state their Islamic state was fighting and describing as a Hell ...now they want their rights recognized ..sorry for the kids but I can really understand the Australian government in not willing to host orthodox Islamist because there is no integration possible in a western culture and avoid social and cultural problems amoung the Australian state ....more and less this is
Who the hell tell them to go over there when they had a good life in Australia!?
Right💯
They're lying through their teeth. Repatriate the children, but never let those women back in.
let them in but they have to denounce islam, that would be a sure fire way to tell if they are lying
@@evanf111og why let them in they left their country for a terrorist group and want to come back. Their families wanting them back are selfish
@@evanf111og What is "Taqiya". Look it up, you're welcome.
Well they have to go back to their land and go to prison its not fair to leave them in syria they entered syria illegally its not syria’s problem to care for them they need to be punished in their countries. Illegal immigrants in europe get deported back to their countries all the time . I don’t get why western countries are refusing them well its their people their problem to deal with.
Really you don't get it?
Being a father to a 2 yr old daughter my heart broke for the little girl in maroon. I wanted to hug her and tell her it's gonna be okay. But I would be lying to her. She unfortunately being used as propaganda by her own mother, these women pretty well knew their choices. I would request Aussies don't take them back, except take children and rehabilitate them.
I agree 100%. The mothers will attempt to use their children as anchor babies though. The children should be removed and rehabilitated. The mothers should live the life the chose. They’re responsible for supporting the deaths of millions. Absolutely horrific crimes. Horrific human rights violations. There is no redemption for these murderers.
Honestly I've been of the opinion of all foreigners who joined ISIS willingly should be executed. Any who were children brought by their parents deserve to rehabiliated back in their home nations with new alias's and government grants so they can have a future but the adults need to be killed. They're no different than the German SS-Totenkopfverbände and the Muslim world isn't strong enough that another IS can easily form in the many cracks across the Islamic world. This would be nipping a problem in the bud and nothing more.
See that those children don't follow Islam
I completely agree with you on that I think the biggest threat now and the biggest revenge that any government should pursue against these women is take their children away, because the idea of keeping their children is a way of win for them. Their children represent their ideologies in the upcoming years, so we are basically fostering more Isis believes, so we are keeping the children with them. They are raising the children for X amount of years. We will have a gnu bred of Isis followers that are actually more dangerous why because they will want to seek revenge if they were ever to come back they would want to seek revenge for their mothers for the lives. They missed out on and for the fathers that Will probably be represented to them throughout their lives as heroes that they've lost under the hands of the west. Bringing back the children, only and re-raising them or putting them into childcare is the best revenge that can be taken against these women . That will not only be a physical loss of the children, but also an ideological loss that these women deserve to get.
Becoming the wife of murderers is worse than being a killer yourself. It is disgusting how they can causally laugh and smile as if they don’t know what their barbaric men have done!
Hows it worse than killing itself
When women who have been raped and trafficked by Isis are interviewed, you see the real trauma ans sadness. These Australian women don't appear like victims.
She is laughing like her situation is a big joke. Clearly has no remorse whatsoever and still won’t take responsibility for their actions.
It's the entitled victim mentality. She'd do it again given the chance.
My thoughts exactly
My thoughts exactly
I think she's just nervous about being on TV and being interviewed.
Trauma makes people behave in different ways. The long lost normality of things etc. Just for that short time with family and the interview she was taken back to that naive happy kid. Nobody can judge them. It's sad that some women where so brainwashed into becoming suicide marters.
she's literally smiling the whole time. leave her in her tent man
Duper's Delight.
yes it suits her
I think it’s not laughing out of happiness, I think their nerve system has been stretched to their limits, they probably have disturbed emotions now after trying to take care of their children in such hostile situations
@Finlay Mackenzie well as a soon to be psychologist I have to understand human cognitions
Could be shell shock, they definitely chose to leave, but they still would have been subjected to horrifying stuff, that’ll leave a mental mark for sure
This is gross honestly you choose the life you live, you want to romanticize terrorism then you get what you deserve… and on the other hand … we have women here that NEED help and resources and they didn’t make a choice to leave … I am disgusted .. those women deserve what they get and for their children that too is on them …
Not everyone gets to choose to live the life they wish! Many are born into situations they can never get out of, or manipulated into positions they can never escape from!
Imagine isis Was a Government...... .........Would They Give "Us" a Second Chance ???. .Well Said u Genius.
I hope Australia is smart and leaves them where they are!!!
Wait till a Sweden-Feminist Government Inspired crackpot comes to power. She'll let them all in. All it takes is one Angela Merkel / Feminist Swedish Tenure to wreck an entire nation. Once they're in - its too late. Any attempt to dislodge them even AFTER Stabbings (London), Bombings (Spain), Vehicle Attack (Berlin), Freedom of Press attack (France Charlie hebdo) is met by chants of Islamophobia by Liberals/Leftists/Feminists.
@@damienspectre4231 🤣😂🤣 hasn’t happened yet! By that time their Islamic husband killed them
@Whonix they made their bed
And then drops a bomb on it.
@@ymatT601 nincompoop
These women wanted to get to Syria when Isis was riding high, they believed they were in love with “tough guys” well now it's tough luck .
I kind of thought they all expected to be Isis widows
Lol
Yeah, they wanted to marry a man in shining armour.. They feel like they are cinderella. 😂😂marrying an intelligent decent guy is not their dream.
@@funlife3484 she already told daddy's princess....lol...she wanted a daddy
I feel sorry for the families, but to portrait those women as a innocent victims of abuse is wrong plus for them to pretend to not understend how they get into this situation is just silly.
It always has been the case with them, 'When in trouble play victim card before the infeidels but when you are strong exterminate them barbarically. This is what they have been to taught to exercise.
With so many extended family members all going to the region, I dont believe any of them were unaware. Some of them sold property and made decisions to indicate they were not coming back. Nobody sells their house to go on a 2 week holiday to Lebanon. I would not bring them back to Australia. They would be better suited living in an Islamic country. Many of them have a connection to Lebanon, so the Australian government should do a deal with Lebanon to take them, or any other Islamic country in the Middle East I also dont believe these women just did housework. Reports from women who were taken as sex slaves said ISIS women were involved in brutalizing them, and these women were married to senior leaders of ISIS, they most likely had leadership roles. I dont trust any of them. Once you have lost your humanity to brutalize other human beings because of religious brainwashing, theres no hope for them. Its really sad that in 2019 there are still people brainwashed by religious fairytales, and are willing to throw their lives away over a fake religion.
Agreed
My question: wtf are they gonna do there women they are mothers who just want there kid to live a good life not grow up In a warzone that's just sickening. At least bring there kids back
Alex I believe they should be tried in Syria and Iraq. That’s where they traveled and that’s where their crimes (likely aiding and abetting) should be punished. Not to mention, they are ALREADY in Syria under guard. They are not even under the authority of any other government.
@@shannonbrown5913 agreed!
No extradition would be needed since they are already there. They should be tried in the locations where their crimes were committed. Again, they are currently being kept under guard in Syria. What should the Australian government and other governments do? Demand these women’s return...or else? They must pay for their mistakes, and be patient. These women and their children are not owed anything.
This NEEDS Subtitles, these women are IMPOSSIBLE to understand!
Paulo Eclectik lmao
Godless Nana they’re sick. Respiratory issues due to crappy living conditions
This is how all the arabs talk in the western suburbs. Rough as guts
Koo Krampel And that makes them talk fast like they’re on speed??
@@CBeatty59🤣🤣
by seeing many islamic country and regions, i have no mercy left
I wouldn't want my children to suffer through this. I would probably put my children up for adoption to a nice Australian couple that do not support the IS caliphate.
I wouldn’t trust these women for a second. You chose this life now do the best you can with it!
Well we know they all don’t get to choose
Im only commenting to let you know, I was your 100th like
Its there brain not them
I agree with you perfectly. If australia refuses to take them back, Aussie might be correct.
Keep them there...
Not once did she say anything bad about isis, only said it was hell living there with the c130 overhead and russian barrel bombs.
coz hardliner still lurking on them
ah probably becoz she could get attacked by them , that's why
God i am not a supporter, but remember she is stuck in that area, and just like the Taliban coming back, there are many ISIS supporters still around. One wrong sentence and they’d kill her.
@@Itried20takennames can't make up excuses for these people any more. Hard world, but I would not want one of these people back around my family or my country men.
@@Itried20takennames Serves her right!
At first I thought the families in Sidney were I Syria, the way they looked and the way they dressed. The mom says: I want my daughter to ask why she has left for Syria. The answer is very easy to know. Have you ever looked at yourself on a mirror?
In some cases, they even burn their passport, proudly recorded the process and upload it online. A few moments later, when their military power crumble, they ask humanity and their home country a passage back home, hugging their little ones. The country be like : bruuh?
"I waited so long to get pregnant" what? This girl is not doing a good job at convincing people she did not want to be there. Making family plans and all?
That shocked me too. I'd be trying desperately NOT to get pregnant. That reveals that her life was good and she had fully embraced it. Wanting to have a child with a ruthless murderer?!?!
Did you notice that in the beginning she said that she never wanted to get married and she was totally against it when her mom talked to her about preparing for the day when she will be a bride and later she is like “I waited so long to get pregnant”. Such a liar! She enjoyed her life as an ISIS bride and she went to Syria specifically for this.
Good Catch. I was Thinking the same. She get her self Cought lying.
Citizenship should be given only for people , who really wish to integrate in civilised countries !
When you settle in another country, respect and adopt the laws of the host country. If you are not happy, go back to your country where you came from.
@@tessietesoro7407 So if you are diagosed with depression Will the aboriginals show up and escort you back to England?...Irony
@@found13 Unless you were born a female, gay, native, black In most countries You can fight for you're country And die But still not old enough to vote for the ones that sent you there in the first place Just because you were born in a country Means nothing History has shown that People's rights only fit those in power No one else...never forget that
Pièce of sh*t they were born aussie... Or should we remind you the brutal history of the first people who came to Australia? And even at that time, pashtun people were amongst the first people and they mixed with indigenous people
@@nabilrise1551 No one will blame a good person, no matter the race and religion.
They both looking like their laugh in our faces. Like someone advise them just to tell their been trafficked and we should be stupid enough to fall for this, so they can return and continue their " mision".
It is a tragic story. When the women met with their parents, it was genuinely heartbreaking as they knew it was only for a short moment. I felt for the parents, but they will never be objective in this situation because they are their kids and have unconditional love for them. It is hard for me to believe that their husbands tricked these women and were completely unaware. Any followers of radical movements are dangerous to society. Adults should face the consequences of their actions, but these children are innocent and are victims of their parent's behaviours. The Australian government could consider helping relocate the children to their Australian families; however, it is tricky as we do not know if the children have the right to get citizenship due to their parents' actions. Also, giving their children away would deprive them of hope and a sense of living...what a deadlock. .
To all those saying theyy had no chance and wanted to escape earlier: They stayed with ISIS til the very last moment, til the very last city fell... that doesnt scream insubordination to me. Much more it feels like they foolishly believed in their self constructed fantasy world until the very end. No one can be sure whether they are lying to get out or not. But make no mistake: a few months ago they were without a doubt singing a very different tune and it wasn't a nice one.
Because it was so easy to leave...
@@alkennedy4867 yeah theyd be killed for resistance
@@juliuscaesar1573 wome n have n o rights in islam, manipulators are known to have booked flights to Syria and claim theyre going to Turkey for example, and the woman doesnt have to know anything or have any say, thats how these people operate, watch the doco about women trying to escape from saudi arabia and how their handlers will lie and go to any lengths to get them back, including tieing them up and dragging them back onto a flight back to saudi arabia from a thailand airport, to never be heard of again.
@@juliuscaesar1573 Rofl if you really think majority of these women are not as extremists as their husbands were and are innocent because supposedly got manipulated in an era where you can find all info you want thru internet in a matter of seconds , being 15 or 55 Do you see a woman in fear or in distress ? Because i dont see any fear or a person with very traumatic experiences in this documentary. I see women who dislike being in a camp and being in a stressful state because of it. Go check a person with very traumatic experiences talking and behave like then talk to us about common sense
@@juliuscaesar1573 It's not easy. Please read up on the Sharrouf children. Khaled Sharrouf forced his eldest daughter to marry his friend.
At least these families know where their loved ones are. How about the Syrians who were killed by Isis who have no idea where their families are. They could send them money, food medicines but they shouldn’t be allowed to come back to a country they voluntarily gave up.
Exactly.
From what I know, Australia doesn't leave people stateless. They would have dual citizenship, so surely they could go to the other country. If they have been stripped of their citizenship, then they have another option. If they haven't, then they just have to wait. They made a choice.
There is a difference between being eligible for a dual citizenship and actually having one. Unless you’ve been through the formal process of registering the second citizenship and have a second passport then it doesn’t really mean anything. Plus from a diplomatic and social point of view it shouldn’t be and isn’t the responsibility of a secondary country, who may or may not have anything to do with ISIS or the Syrian conflict to then tidy up the messes of Australia or any other Western country. The world isn’t the dumping ground of the West. I’m from the UK and there’s similar arguments happening over UK ISIS members and particularly women like Shamima Begum, who was barred from re-entry back to the UK. It was initially being claimed that she had dual nationality with Bangladesh, or that she was eligible for this, and that she should simply go there but the Bangladeshi authorities came out and said that officially she was never a citizen and in the light of her actions would be denied entry to the country. She’s still in Syria and has tried multiple appeals to try and have the initial decision overturned.
"the women Australia don't want" I don't want em either. Who does 😜
I guess the whole world disowned them. the taliban in Afghanistan can have them all 😂😂
Same, we don't want them either.
Yeah seriously, their religion are cancerous.
@@benedictelarsson4060 I don't mind taking in Turks or Central Asians but I'll never accept South Asian Muslim's
@@xxxdieselyyy2 turks.....?! Sure😨
These women were told to act innocent if captured and give a story to say to lie about there presence in Syria
My yazidi friends will feel so sorry for them.
Ha so so true they deserve all they get
@Pandey Sir ah, ok, this is where I tell you about irony. I am joking.
Take the children away from them. They didn’t choose any of this. As for the traitors they should never be allowed back, they are potential killers. They can’t be trusted.
Yeah, unfortunately those children are probably brainwashed and possibly too late to save them now. These groups get the members through child brainwashing at an early age.
While some may be traitors some may be also brainwashed and taken against there will Look what the taliban is doing taking younf girls against their will
The kids have been indoctrinated. They can't be trusted either.
The children are born in Syria and are Syrian citizens. They belong in Syria with their mothers.
@@sofie5619 most of those children were born in Australia...
Not one of them mentioned the yazedi girls, they were treated like less than animals and we are supposed to feel sorry for you.
How about talking to the families of the people that were beheaded or don't they matter?