Ben's Vision - The Lost Sonic SatAM Third Season/Film (FULL DOCUMENTARY)

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Ben Hurst was the co-story editor of Sonic SatAM's second season. Once the show was cancelled, he spent the rest of his life trying to get the show revived for a proper conclusion, whether through another season, or a film. This is his story.
This is "Ben's Vision", a documentary going over the history of Ben Hurst's unmade SatAM film/third season.
This documentary goes over the history of Ben Hurst's unmade SatAM film/third season, both it's revival attempts, and what's known of his plans for it, feature a reconstruction of Ben's plans for SatAM's third season, with voice acting for the scenes in which Ben wrote, and illustrations contributed by tons of fans.
Huge thanks to the artists and voice actors who contributed to this documentary.
For those who wish to know where I sourced my info on the third season, along with where all quotes from Ben Hurst came from, I compiled everything Ben Hurst said online in this document: docs.google.com/document/d/1d...
Just to make it clear, the illustrations are fanmade, and artist interpretations of how certain events/characters may have looked/played out. All of the narration by Ben (portrayed by Quod) are direct quotes from Ben himself, and have not been altered (aside from one or two cases in regards to grammar). So, anything said by him is his direct ideas for the third season. The illustrations/storyboards are interpretations of those ideas. For example, all we knew about the Jungle Freedom Fighters was that they existed, but JustAGuyNamedSam created character designs and characters based on the concept. Those exact designs and character names aren't official, but simply a concept based on Ben's idea. Just wanted to say that before anyone goes around claiming these are "Lost Production Drawings".
All of the dialogue is by Ben as well. the Epilogue is the only exception, being a newly written final scene based on an ending idea by Ben Hurst.
Regardless, enjoy the documentary!
Credits:
Directed, Written, Researched and Edited by Jacob Berkley
Voices:
Jacob Berkley - Narration, Ken Penders, Mike Spooner, Eric Mason, and Antoine
Quod Matter - Ben Hurst
CheesyWheesy - Ron Myrick
Dontae M! (Swordtee40) - Jon Gray and Robotnik
TaShara Lee (Dway-nic) - Sonic
DeeLee The Oddity - Sally
Sydney Paige (@abluemoon88) - Alison Scharlemann and Young Nicole
Scrillow - Computer Nicole and Bunnie
Audio Editing and Equalizing By:
Jozsef Molnar/404 TV and Jacob Berkley
Contributed Art/Storyboards By:
Gwen LongcrierCat
Chris Jones
fightorflight78
cherryboi
Sea-Salt
MegaMotion
Masquayla
JayFoxFire
Gruffdasmuff
Erika Ayala
SEGAMew
RobotGlovesArt
SonicDownUnder
Danilo Santos Vieira
Simon Innes-Skippy
RingMaster
JustAGuyNamedSam
Sebastian Dorn
AmeixaRoxa
Tim Tapp
Stovan
Nicole Design conceived by @TVict101 and finalized by @syntheticghost_ for @SonicPolaris, Used with Permission
"TBD" designed by AmeixaRoxa
Amphitheater Design by Sea-Salt
Nicole Satellite Design by Gwen LongcrierCat
Posters By:
SonicDownUnder
Azul35 and Gwen LongcrierCat
Epilogue Music Score By:
F0XShadow
Music Used From:
Micheal Tavera's Unused SatAM Score
Sonic SatAM RPG
Sonic Epoch
Sea3on Comic Soundtrack
Steven Universe
Show/Film Footage Used:
Sonic SatAM
Taxi
Bums
Star Street
Tiny Toons
The Real Ghostbusters
Captain Planet
Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog
Sonic Underground
Sonic Armageddon
Le Petomane
WaterWorld
BumbleKast
Sea3on Animated
Thanks for Watching!
0:00:00 Intro
0:03:04 Ben's Early Life
0:08:29 Enter SatAM
0:23:43 The Underground Revival Attempt
0:31:53 The Super Special Revival Attempt
0:36:14 The Sabotaged Attempt
0:48:41 The Gift Revival Attempt
0:59:18 Ben's Later Life and Passing
1:15:49 Ben's Conclusion: The Beginning
1:34:12 Ben's Conclusion: The Middle
1:55:08 Ben's Conclusion: The Ending
2:00:01 Epilogue
2:02:51 Credits

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  • Hey everybody, I'm so glad so many of you enjoyed the documentary! Just to let you know, I'm going to be putting out a "Director's Cut" of the documentary in the near future, which will feature a few bits of additional information, two new illustrations, and will feature minor editing fixes, and equalized audio with no audio peaking! I'm also writing a book about the history of Sonic SatAM, which will feature even more information about the show's production, and more information about Ben. Check out the Twitter for the book project here: twitter.com/SatamHistorian

    @AdventureMaster18@AdventureMaster183 ай бұрын
    • Uh what’s the audio drama you recommend for Nicole’s origin again?

      @rockmanmix6242@rockmanmix62423 ай бұрын
    • ​@@rockmanmix6242Sonic Polaris

      @AdventureMaster18@AdventureMaster183 ай бұрын
    • @@AdventureMaster18 got it

      @rockmanmix6242@rockmanmix62423 ай бұрын
    • Finally had a free evening to watch this, I though you did excellent work on this vid. I'll look forward to the directors' cut & definitely pick up your book when it releases. Thank you for giving us what is likely the closest thing we'll ever get to a proper conclusion to this underrated part of the Sonic franchise.

      @CrashWeezerman@CrashWeezerman3 ай бұрын
  • RIP Ben...that bit with Ken Penders screwing him over still boils my blood. Honestly his overall story for the 3rd season sounds great. I particularly like his Mobius origin story. Nice to see he wouldn't have shied away from some dark subject matter.

    @Razorgeist@Razorgeist6 ай бұрын
    • And also we could’ve had knuckles in an actual good sonic 90s show no offense to adventures of sonic the hedgehog By the way

      @DontforgetPercyproductions@DontforgetPercyproductions6 ай бұрын
    • @@DontforgetPercyproductionsthat was sonic underground not the adventures of sonic the hedgehog

      @skeveyishere758@skeveyishere7582 ай бұрын
    • @@DontforgetPercyproductionsbut regardless all 3 series are goated reguardless and should have been allowed to finish

      @skeveyishere758@skeveyishere7582 ай бұрын
  • Rip Ben Hurst. You wrote a great story.

    @starkotletka8655@starkotletka86552 ай бұрын
  • Wow so both Archie and Ben Hurst had a similar idea of Mobius being a nuclear transformed Earth. Tough the key difference in the former was the whole Overlander story.

    @JohnnyTightlips2007@JohnnyTightlips20076 ай бұрын
    • Archie took from SatAM's notes, actually. They even used character ideas the show discarded, like Nate Morgan.

      @Idazmi7@Idazmi76 ай бұрын
  • Happy to have voiced Sally for this! Thanks for having me!

    @DeeLeeTheOddity@DeeLeeTheOddity5 ай бұрын
    • @sandkastletv813@sandkastletv8133 ай бұрын
    • You nailed the Acorn Princess role. I love it.

      @michaelaburns734@michaelaburns7349 күн бұрын
  • Even though I wouldn't say SATAM is my favourite, it's sad Ben didn't get to finish it.

    @trevortyrrell175@trevortyrrell1757 ай бұрын
    • Yes. 100% agreed.

      @hazukiwarrior9218@hazukiwarrior92186 ай бұрын
    • I feel the same for Sonic Underground. Didn't care for it, but the fact it's left unfinish despite being so close to an ending is jsut baffling.

      @WhoPutsThisStuffHere@WhoPutsThisStuffHere5 ай бұрын
    • @@WhoPutsThisStuffHere I'm making a reboot of it if that helps. =D

      @Angie2343@Angie23434 ай бұрын
    • @@WhoPutsThisStuffHereyeah I was so confused that it had no real conclusion 😅

      @gracekim25@gracekim254 ай бұрын
  • Honestly after learning the story of underground's development I'm impressed with how they actually managed to push 40 decent episodes with all those limitations

    @charmingmagican9821@charmingmagican98215 ай бұрын
    • I'm making a reboot! With the timeline of the show rewound like a VHS tape!

      @Angie2343@Angie23434 ай бұрын
  • Ben was even trying to save Sonic Underground and even push to Episode 66. Season 3 of SatAM would have been hype galore. Rest easy Ben Hurst.

    @michaelaburns734@michaelaburns73412 күн бұрын
  • OMG! Poor Nicole.😢 This is so beautiful. And the Ben Hurst caricature at the end.... 💐💐💐💐💐💐💐

    @TwoTailedSponge@TwoTailedSponge4 ай бұрын
  • I feel really bad for Ben honestly 😢

    @gracekim25@gracekim257 ай бұрын
  • We are so PROUD of you! ❤ Xo, Em

    @TeamSea3on@TeamSea3on7 ай бұрын
    • Thank you so much Em!

      @AdventureMaster18@AdventureMaster187 ай бұрын
    • Hi

      @freedomfantom8213@freedomfantom82137 ай бұрын
  • I would of like a revival of Sonic Satam if it wasn't cancelled.

    @CoenGearhart@CoenGearhart7 ай бұрын
    • That's why Sea3on is going to happen ;)

      @Giovanni_Team_Rocket_UK@Giovanni_Team_Rocket_UK7 ай бұрын
    • @@Giovanni_Team_Rocket_UK But when is it gonna come out that what I was thinking

      @CoenGearhart@CoenGearhart7 ай бұрын
    • @@Giovanni_Team_Rocket_UK I was gonna make a follow up series based off the third season but I was thinking of a fan movie

      @CoenGearhart@CoenGearhart7 ай бұрын
  • As a long time fan of the show, this was a absolute delight to watch. And seeing what a possible ending could have been for the series as a whole, I gotta be honest, that bit between Sally and Nicole, that made me tear up, I love it!

    @Christolclear101@Christolclear1017 ай бұрын
  • This has been a delight to share with friends. Thank you for having me on for colouring and painting the background on the poster, designing the satellite, the Organicizers, the Freedom Fighters' families, drawing Tails's Steven Universe moment, drawing the Origin of Mobius, and a lot more. It was a delight to bring Ben's vision to life and we can only hope that this continues to be shared by fans for a long time to come. Working with you this year on this and Super Sonic Sisters was a real Blast from the Past that Im glad we brought to the Future as well as getting to share time on Rejuiced. I have high hopes for you, Jacob. For someone who's only in their early 20s you show a lot of promise with your work in regards to this series and I wish nothing but the best for your endeavours. Thank you for bringing us all together to bring Ben's vision to life. Id like to do that again.

    @LongcrierInProgress@LongcrierInProgress7 ай бұрын
    • Thank you so much Gwen. Your art is amazing and I would not have been able to finish the Super Sonic Sisters video or this documentary without you. :)

      @AdventureMaster18@AdventureMaster187 ай бұрын
    • @@AdventureMaster18 Can you please consider my suggestion? Maybe do a documentary of the origin of the freedom fighters (from the "1993 Sonic Saturday Mornings DiC animated television series" aka Sonic SatAM) and how their designs may or may not be based on the Animal buddies from the American Lore of early sonic games? If you’re interested!

      @gabeheartz13saravia97@gabeheartz13saravia974 ай бұрын
  • Wasn't expecting to cry, I really wasn't. Then the epilouge hit with Nicole and I just started bawling. This was so good and informative. SATAM is and always will be my favorite Sonic verse. IT's my usual go to for when someone tries and tells me about how bad their show got it or something. So hearing this, all of this, hits hard as I have been curious as to the whole story from end to end. I do wonder, maybe the emeralds would've played in season 4, after all you can't have Knuckles without the emeralds. And if the show went further, could've Shadow made his own way?

    @Martialartfruituser@Martialartfruituser6 ай бұрын
  • This is very well made. I wanted to cry happy tears. R.I.P. Ben Hurst.

    @TheEzekiel300@TheEzekiel3004 ай бұрын
  • What a guy that Ben Hurst was. Always so respectful to fans and giving his all to them for what they wanted, and yet, he just couldn't catch a break no matter how hard the reached.

    @Jeff-gj7ko@Jeff-gj7koКүн бұрын
  • 3:31 no god damn way. Dude was trained by the best voice actor of all time.

    @Averagebasementman@Averagebasementman2 ай бұрын
  • I'm glad to have contributed the first storyboards to this documentary! Here's my boards: 1:45:55

    @dorn_sebastian@dorn_sebastian7 ай бұрын
  • The ending nearly made me cry. This is arguably one of the most well-researched and documented video on a cartoon I've loved for a long time. X3 You did an incredible job and so did everyone else for bringing this all together. :3

    @ari-dynamic@ari-dynamic7 ай бұрын
  • 27:15 "Siblings, Music, Missing Mother, Stupid New Characters" 😂 never gets old.

    @ZekeyX2004@ZekeyX2004Ай бұрын
  • SATAM Sonic was such a work of art, it deserves the fandom it has. Ken Penders being Ken Penders unfortunately boils down to “if I can’t have it. No one can have it.” Now thinking about it, Ken sabotaging Ben Hurst was like eerie foreshadowing his unhinged lawsuit that sealed the Archie sonic comics’ fate.

    @zachduperron8543@zachduperron8543Ай бұрын
  • that ending really moved me it's a nice portion and a can 100% believe this would be the end of the show thank you very much for this and i hope we can see Nicole, Sally, and the rest of the gang again one day

    @rocky-my5ck@rocky-my5ck7 ай бұрын
  • I DID THE NICOLE MELTING BIT!! [Now instead of text walls and screenshots, I can send this video to whoever I'm info dumping! :D ] Thanks for letting me draw stuff for you! It's fascinating how much darker this show could've gotten.

    @masquaylathesplendid7516@masquaylathesplendid75167 ай бұрын
  • Thank you so much for having me! Great documentary!

    @abluemoon88sydneypaige44@abluemoon88sydneypaige447 ай бұрын
    • You were way past cool! Your performance as young Nicole shook me to my core, your talent was on full display!

      @kittygardenva2741@kittygardenva27417 ай бұрын
  • This was worth the wait, I enjoyed drawing Robotnik with a pug face.

    @RobotGlovesArt@RobotGlovesArt7 ай бұрын
    • He looked very adorable.

      @anthonyluetmer8499@anthonyluetmer84997 ай бұрын
  • Amazing video. Ben's work on Sonic was a huge part of my childhood, and I never gave up hope that we'd eventually get to see the conclusion it deserved, at least until Ben's passing. Of all the reasons to despise Ken Penders, even the nonsense that went down at the end of Archie 1.0 pales in comparison to what he did to Ben back when the pitch for a movie was a thing. Him taking on Archie was ultimately just him trying to get what he thought he was owed, from an industry which is not kind to artists and writers. It's just that doing so fucked over a book that was, by then, better than anything he ever put on the page (as long as Ian wasn't doing stories longer than eight parts, anyway). Him stabbing Ben in the back was him betraying one man because he thought he knew better, when everything we've seen of his own movie pitch is, quite frankly, absolutely awful. In some ways, I find it hard to go back to SatAM now. I mostly watched it when I was a kid, and not long after Ben's death, I fell out of love with preboot Archie _hard._ I hated the direction the book took after Issue 200, and I started to see the things I didn't like in the new issues in the ones I'd previously enjoyed, and it caused me to kinda... shove a bunch of my old Sonic favourites in the nostalgia box where I can keep my childhood memories of them being good and not have to think too hard about whether it holds up to my grouchy adult tastes. I've yet to be disappointed by the episodes I _did_ go back to, they're just as good as I remember, but no full-series binge yet. One of the things that always stuck with me was the Nicole backstory. I used to be a fanfic writer, and I always used that backstory. Even when I was writing in "Very definitely the Archie canon up until Issue XYZ", I'd always drop the Archie-derived time-travel backstory in favour of the SatAM one. I always found it fascinating that the character with the most terrifying powers in the entire franchise was also one of its kindest, and most gentle. If she wanted to, she could've responded to any threat by just melting the brains of any antagonistic force, but she never _would._ Nicole has long been one of my favourite characters in the series, from her genesis in the cartoon to the work Archie's various writers put into expanding and developing her character (depending on my mood, her not being involved in the Mecha Sally Saga is like 50% of the reason that story doesn't land for me. Like, c'mon, with her powers and Sally having recently freed _her_ from mind control, this is a _perfect_ opportunity to really get some mileage out of her, and she's basically not in it? For shame, Mr. Flynn!), and the additional details that Ben provided only add to that. She's sitting in S-tier alongside Emerl and challengers to that throne are few and far between.

    @ToaArcan@ToaArcan5 ай бұрын
  • Excellent work to everyone involved! I had a blast (to the past) viewing this documentary :) I did the Nicole scenes where she is in her little cyber space realm and the bits of Julian and King Acorn (someone out there probably recognized one of the scenes based on the fake screenshot I done over ten years ago)

    @segamew@segamew7 ай бұрын
  • This is amazing all the development we have come to know in the years leading up to a potential season 3&4, explained this video! The real sucky part is, from the context I was able to construct in my mind is that Ken Penders screwed over the pitch for the movie/season finale, and thus, was able to essentially steal Ben Hurst’s work under the legal protection of the SEGA IP, then after filing the complaint back in the mid 2000’s after Chronicles release to claim that it was HIS work SEGA was “stealing” from, however, could do nothing as Ben was still alive. After Ben’s sudden death, the sudden renewed desire to pursue his case was launched, and with Ben no longer in the picture, SEGA couldn’t have a living defense against the claim, thus Penders wins the case, stealing the credit for the whole SatAM universe, and really ultimately destroying any chances we had for more SatAM content going forward. I’m NGL this is the darkest retrospective I’ve had the pleasure of watching. Good work! I do hope this comment gets pinned. If not, I’ll come back to this is a future KZhead video project…

    @Isotropic_Phoenix@Isotropic_Phoenix7 ай бұрын
  • Does sega REALLY hate referencing the american cartoons? Nintendo embraced it with the super show reference in the Mario movie. So, does nintenDo what sega doesn't?

    @rootatnite@rootatnite4 ай бұрын
  • Wow this video is amazing, getting to know some of Ben's plans was very interesting. The animation of Sally seeing Nicole is very touching and I think would be a perfect ending to the show. The work done for this video is amazing and everyone involved did a great job.

    @PrincessLunafan21@PrincessLunafan217 ай бұрын
  • Man, this came together beautifully... 🥹Thank you so much, for thinking of /including me in this (I Voiced Sonic), it is an honor. 💙

    @Dway-nic@Dway-nic7 ай бұрын
  • I wouldn't call myself a massive SatAM fan at the time it aired, I was a bit young to really enjoy it's more serious story, but I do remember being a legitimately bummed out 6 year old when it didn't come back in '95. I did end up getting into the Archie Comics series heavily around 8 or 9, loving all the different Freedom Fighters. As I got older, I realized there was a vast community of fans trying to bring it back and it always left me with a tinge of melancholy knowing that it was most likely a fruitless endeavor. However, I will always respect Ben Hurst for sticking to his guns and pushing hard to get this thing back. His ideas for season 3 may have been a BIT to heady for the era, (that being said they'd fit snuggly alongside stuff like The Owl House and Amphibia today), but I admire his tenacity. The last animatic feels so legit here.

    @ZyxthePest@ZyxthePest4 күн бұрын
  • Had a few tears at the end, that was great!

    @geremipineault308@geremipineault3087 ай бұрын
  • I just want all good shows for children to have a proper conclusion if it's essential

    @gablit-gt8kk@gablit-gt8kk6 ай бұрын
    • Me too

      @yellowstarproductions6743@yellowstarproductions67436 ай бұрын
  • thank you for putting so much effort into this documentary to bring closure to not only Sonic and Sally, but to us fans too

    @marcogonzalez9673@marcogonzalez967319 күн бұрын
  • this was wonderfully put together! Ben's ideas were so cool and i loved hearing about them alongside all the fanart you compiled for the video. SatAM is something special

    @littlemadster@littlemadster6 ай бұрын
  • YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS YES IT'S HERE!!! i am going to shed a few tears over this, most definitely

    @shadowelii@shadowelii7 ай бұрын
  • Finally, finally had the chance to watch part two of this. Thanks so much for compiling all of this. I've wanted this closure since I watched the season two finale in the early nineties.

    @johnlittle8045@johnlittle80456 ай бұрын
  • So great to see this visually, as well as seeing JayFoxFire take part in this project

    @maximusw01@maximusw017 ай бұрын
  • This was such a great watch and listen. RIP Ben❤

    @clarke3193@clarke31937 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for putting this all together, what a wonderful way to celebrate the recent anniversary of the series.

    @snailbail2261@snailbail22617 ай бұрын
  • This was a fantastic documentary and its endearing to finally hear Ben's full plans for Season 3. I dont recall the ending every being released to the public so this is news to me. I will admit, the conclusion is a bit conflicting and bittersweet. NICOLE being brought back in her physical form, yet shes still in the body of a 5yro. Sally and her childhood friend reunite, but adopts her as her daughter. Overall, I waited decades for an ending to the SatAM saga and now that I got it, I feel a sense of satisfaction knowing that these characters got a happy ending.

    @Rych3rInLyf3@Rych3rInLyf37 ай бұрын
  • id have given anything to get season 3 ; ; Ben was an absolute legend for all the effort he put in for trying to get season 3 on the air

    @MilkshakeSkunkette@MilkshakeSkunkette6 ай бұрын
  • Now this is delightful! Congrats man, this documentary is a beautiful product of your hard work and passion, and you should be incredibly proud!

    @GeekySonicVA@GeekySonicVA7 ай бұрын
  • This was incredibly well done. As someone who grew up with these characters since a young age, that ending really moved me. Seeing the FF victorious was only something I was able to see in the Archie comics. I was weeping as much as Antoine at the end there!

    @aaronsarchive82@aaronsarchive829 күн бұрын
  • This is absolutely incredible! Massive props to you and everyone who was involved in making the documentary 1:55:01 and i found this moment really sweet Amazing job Jake!!!!

    @That1Yoshi18@That1Yoshi187 ай бұрын
  • Genius work... but then Ben Hurst was a genius. Thank you for putting it all together and giving us fans closure.

    @MaveriKat@MaveriKat5 ай бұрын
  • I'm not crying, YOU'RE crying! 😾

    @Kattywampus@Kattywampus7 ай бұрын
  • Absolutely stellar dude! 🎉

    @MegaMotionCD@MegaMotionCD7 ай бұрын
  • 1:33:30 I love that the last two are references to both Robotnik and who he has been portrayed by. The Bear being Winnie the Pooh, who is voiced by Jim Cummings, the voice of Robotnik in this continuity, and Dr. Ivo Robotnik as portrayed in the Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog. A nice nod I may say

    @SuperSans64YT@SuperSans64YT28 күн бұрын
  • 1:00:53 it’s that really Ben Hurst? If is him i love he’s voice of narrator because he’s voice is alot with passion and that talent is amazing

    @miguael_ribuera@miguael_ribuera7 ай бұрын
    • Yep, that's Ben! He had a really good voice.

      @AdventureMaster18@AdventureMaster187 ай бұрын
  • This was beautiful, no words could do it justice....

    @kittygardenva2741@kittygardenva27417 ай бұрын
  • This turned out incredible! Thanks once again for having me in board!

    @Swordtee40@Swordtee407 ай бұрын
  • Thank you so much for making this video! This version of the Sonic franchise was what I grew up with (rewatched the 2 seasons whenever I could). That end statement about Closure is perfect, as I often wondered what happened and why the show never continued on. Also loved learning about Ben and how much care and love he had for the project.

    @sweeneykitkat5154@sweeneykitkat51549 күн бұрын
  • So glad I got to be a part of this and work on some storyboards. It turned out great!

    @Cherryy_juice@Cherryy_juice7 ай бұрын
  • What an incredible project! Amazing work Jake pulling this all together and bringing so much SatAM energy!

    @ReggieMeisler@ReggieMeisler7 ай бұрын
  • great job guys ben would be so proud

    @jordanmadick7378@jordanmadick73787 ай бұрын
  • To whoever produced the music for this documentary…thank you for using Michael Tavera’s wonderful theme from the *first* season. The beautiful music is half the reason I enjoyed this show so much as a kid. I especially like how the music fit into the final scene when Sally reunited with Nicole. Very nice touch…and thank you to everyone who put this documentary together! I wish I was more involved with the fan sites from back in the day.

    @ChrisNeptuneMusic@ChrisNeptuneMusic4 ай бұрын
  • Congrats on the release man! You Did an amazing job!

    @Big-G@Big-G7 ай бұрын
  • I always figured that Season 3 would introduce Metal Sonic and Amy/Rosey the Rascal-- it was weird that they weren't part of Season 2, particularly given that Uncle Chuck was clearly based on Metal Sonic. Knuckles and Knack would have had to be the Season 4 antagonists debuting along with the returning Robotnik.

    @TheHobgoblyn@TheHobgoblyn18 күн бұрын
  • Ben is so talented, he should have been the writer for sonic 06 no doubt

    @marioandsonicfan1991@marioandsonicfan19917 ай бұрын
    • even if Sega considered hiring him instead of the writers responsible for Adventure 2, Heroes and a good chunk of Sonic X, I doubt this would've saved the game's reputation, given how much of mess the development process was for it, being rushed to meet a deadline and all. in fact, you could compare it to Sonic Underground which had similar problems behind the scenes, and that one actually HAD Ben Hurst onboard. realistically speaking, it wouldn't have changed much.

      @ScatterbrainPete@ScatterbrainPete6 ай бұрын
    • @@ScatterbrainPete I disagree

      @marioandsonicfan1991@marioandsonicfan19916 ай бұрын
    • @@marioandsonicfan1991 that's fine. just remember that when it comes to video games, it's usually "game comes first, story second". as a writer, you're lucky to influence the actual game you're writing the script for. it's an unfortunate fact. if you don't believe me, you can ask Ian Flynn about his involvement with Sonic Frontiers and Origins. I'm sure he's already shared some of his experience on his Bumblekast.

      @ScatterbrainPete@ScatterbrainPete6 ай бұрын
    • @@ScatterbrainPete ok

      @marioandsonicfan1991@marioandsonicfan19916 ай бұрын
    • @@ScatterbrainPeteI mean it makes sense in the grand scheme of things it is a video game so gameplay should take top priority.

      @Skye2993@Skye29936 ай бұрын
  • That final scene I have to say I got emotional. Nicole is no longer in her computer and she is in the fur. 😭

    @michaelaburns734@michaelaburns7349 күн бұрын
  • Fantastic video. I really enjoyed it. Finding out all the plans Ben had and did not happen. I hope many of these ideas happen in Sea3on :3 Thank you very much Jake for making this fantastic video! You really made alot of SatAM fans happy!

    @Giovanni_Team_Rocket_UK@Giovanni_Team_Rocket_UK7 ай бұрын
  • Nowadays, this show does not fit with what Sega, and by extension the world, thinks of sonic, but there is more than enough proof that this show deserves more than what it was given, because it’s not just about pacific characters, it’s about continuing a story that children never got to see the conclusion too.

    @Kwizzy8406@Kwizzy8406Ай бұрын
  • Beautiful Beautiful loved the happy ending and God bless Ben Hurst 🙏

    @adamcox7415@adamcox74156 ай бұрын
  • You know that left behind mutant looked a bit like Naugus. Maybe he is a mutant too?

    @anthonyluetmer8499@anthonyluetmer84997 ай бұрын
    • That was an inkling of the idea I had while drawing the Mutant and also making them look more primate. When I got to draw the origin of Mobius storyboards I noted how Planet of the Apes the whole set up was and so also included a cheeky reference on the Mutant's shirt.

      @LongcrierInProgress@LongcrierInProgress7 ай бұрын
    • @@LongcrierInProgress nice. Maybe Lazaar could be a mutant too. Also I imagine that the human space captain could be Nate Morgan.

      @anthonyluetmer8499@anthonyluetmer84997 ай бұрын
    • ​@@anthonyluetmer8499my idea was that he was like a cousin or nephew to Nate. I would have thought that Nate in the Archie Books is styled after how he would have been in SatAM. Ken Penders tended to "borrow" (or as some internet artists on some Reanimated projects like Re:Opal taught me as "just be a thief and go") ideas from Ben Hurst often. Like with that said, when I got to draw the Origin of Mobius, I laughed that it was a nuclear bomb that kickstarted all of it. The "Xorda" bomb was always a part of the storyline. Ken is a thief.

      @LongcrierInProgress@LongcrierInProgress7 ай бұрын
    • ​​@@LongcrierInProgressJust a few corrections Gwen: The Nate design is Archie is likely a design made for the show, but "anime-ified" for the comic. It wouldn't be stealing to use it, since it's materials from the show they were given. The Xorda origin was actually the creation of Karl Bollers, not Ken Penders. Ken actually hated the Earth origin because he wanted Mobius to be an alien planet lol. I don't like Ken, but I just wanted to correct a few things.

      @AdventureMaster18@AdventureMaster187 ай бұрын
    • @@AdventureMaster18 either way I view that captain personality wise is like Commander Adama from Battlestar Galactica ( the 1978 version not the 2003 version)

      @anthonyluetmer8499@anthonyluetmer84997 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for getting the information out there, I probably would've never found it.

    @ClassicSonic0410@ClassicSonic04107 ай бұрын
  • This turned out great!

    @mcmistle9892@mcmistle98927 ай бұрын
  • Mind you, if this show were to continue with a third season along with a new character to add to mix, the Archie Comics would've gone a much more different direction..

    @jose.lfurtado6245@jose.lfurtado62455 ай бұрын
  • It's very cliché, but I suppose the third season really was the friends made along the way. Very nice video. As a huge fan of Sonic, but with only a recently developed interest in the SatAM and the other Western continuities, it was interesting to see all this laid out. I had known of the Nicole twist for example, but didn't realise there was so much to it. I wonder if it was worth including Penders' defence regarding his involvement in the "sabotage", though I understand the video is strictly by Hurst's own words. Not like any one of us could know enough to consider a 'whole' truth anyway.

    @MONKEYmaddness54@MONKEYmaddness547 ай бұрын
  • Hey - Dawn Best here. First of all, really great video. Second, minor thing for your re-do, but I think I should note that Alessandro Sanasi is male. My source for this was that we were all on the same mailing lists back then :D But I loved the synopsis of what could have been. Really well done video, man.

    @chordsykat@chordsykatАй бұрын
    • Thanks for the kind words Dawn! I love the art you did for the Archie Sonic comics, you have a wonderful art style. :) And thanks for the correction on Alessandro Sanasi's gender, I will definitely fix that for my Director's Cut!

      @AdventureMaster18@AdventureMaster18Ай бұрын
    • @@AdventureMaster18 My pleasure! I love your dedication in chronicling the old days of Sonic. Great stuff, man. If I can be of any help in the videos you do on this multifaceted subject, don't be afraid to reach out!

      @chordsykat@chordsykatАй бұрын
  • ben hurst is best sonic writer ever

    @freezeblazestar1079@freezeblazestar10793 ай бұрын
  • *I've been looking forward to this* 👍

    @SoranotRoxas@SoranotRoxas7 ай бұрын
  • Amazing work, great job everybody on the project!

    @DrakeMystical@DrakeMystical7 ай бұрын
  • oh my goodness, this was amazing!!! massive thank you to all of you who made this, you all did an amazing job researching and recreating everything! thank you all for this!

    @NikiPaprika@NikiPaprika7 ай бұрын
  • It's really ridiculous that Ben seemed properly obsessed with finishing this story and had well over a decade to actually flesh out the season but never did.

    @sr212787@sr212787Ай бұрын
    • He did flesh out the season, he had tons of notes and ideas written down, but most of them were never made public/shared. What's presented here is all that's currently known about the season based on what was shared online/with his friends.

      @AdventureMaster18@AdventureMaster18Ай бұрын
    • @@AdventureMaster18 Many times in this video he's quoted saying, I don't know I never fleshed it out, I'm just saying if it is all fleshed out and written down somewhere, I would have given it to one of those three trusted friends in case I died so that the story could be told.

      @sr212787@sr212787Ай бұрын
  • I got to ask. Will those SatAM images near the end of the video be used in the season 3 fan film? And was that the Jaleel White voicing Sonic again?

    @TheEzekiel300@TheEzekiel3004 ай бұрын
  • Awesome video and a great tribute. Well done.

    @Polycomical@Polycomical7 ай бұрын
  • Amazingly insightful!

    @keithrowsell6847@keithrowsell68477 ай бұрын
  • Thank you so much for putting this together. One thing I have wondered about for MANY years is what "Power" tails would have had. 1:45:37 Explains it.

    @TheDanimatorsChannel@TheDanimatorsChannel6 ай бұрын
  • So nice to have all the information finally in one video.

    @edward18517@edward185177 ай бұрын
  • BRAVO! BRAVVO!! Magnific documental!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏🥺🥰✴✳

    @FliviART@FliviART7 ай бұрын
  • Cant wait for more great content like this!

    @valmid5069@valmid50697 ай бұрын
  • More than two years ago, I was in contact on Facebook with what I initially believed to be the voice actress of Sally Acorn, but I found out very quickly that it was scam artist when they asked me to buy them a very specific gift card. Worse than that, they didn’t even get Kath Soucie’s date of birth correct when I quizzed them about it.

    @ShyGuy83@ShyGuy834 ай бұрын
  • I still think that the Sonic the Hedgehog episodes should focus on Sally, Tails and Bunnie.

    @EddieKyteABCDEFG12345678910@EddieKyteABCDEFG123456789105 ай бұрын
  • This is really well made!

    @DaddlerTheDalek@DaddlerTheDalek6 ай бұрын
  • Thank you!!!

    @MistaJonz@MistaJonz7 ай бұрын
  • I've always wanted to know the history of the show and this video best explains everything. I just finished watching the show and while I still don't like it, I can understand why. Ben Hurst had a great vision for the show and season 2 (despite the duo Antoine episodes) provided an idea of what the show should have been. The ABC Network treated SATAM like a typical generic 90s cartoon. But if Ben and his other writing pals had more freedom (and less Antoine), we could have seen the definitive conclusion.

    @TheVideoScientist-bi7px@TheVideoScientist-bi7px14 күн бұрын
  • Thank you for sharing the storyline of Season 3. And little of Season 4.

    @justincarlbrown1@justincarlbrown13 ай бұрын
  • Why is this only at 3.5K views I am going to fistfight KZhead this is so thoroughly researched and clearly so much work and passion has been put into it. I am delighted to be watching this, thank you for sharing this with the world ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😭😭😭

    @shadowelii@shadowelii7 ай бұрын
  • I find it funny how Ken Penders sounds like Inspector Gadget here.

    @pal-of-pals@pal-of-pals19 күн бұрын
  • If only Sega had greenlit Season 3.

    @OrtemionQC@OrtemionQC7 ай бұрын
  • Sounds like the greatest chance Ben had was if he never brought Penders on board. Penders just had to fuck it up what a bloody hack.

    @BahumutTH@BahumutTH4 ай бұрын
  • I don't believe that a show, animated ones especially can have a stable run under any big corporations. I mean you never know if the studios's bigwigs decide to axe the series or not let it conclude (or go beyond its intended ending) with the high likelihood of dumb mandates from the suits that can really sour the experience for both the artists and its audience. In case you don't know, I don't think very highly of any of these big corporations as most if not all think about how to get as much money and profit as possible and don't think of passion at all. I certainly believe that the 80s and 90s were especially bad for the animated series. I mean, can you think of any animated series around the '80s and '90s that had a proper conclusion to the series? Well, If you can name some of them, I consider them to be the lucky ones. Or maybe it was possible that the team was smart and considered enough to make the season finale feel like a conclusion on some level. If Sonic SatAM got a shot of continuing and ending with a proper conclusion, it would only as an indie animation. (or something along these lines)

    @alexandrpeterberg390@alexandrpeterberg3905 ай бұрын
  • It's juice and jam time

    @LeviChurch@LeviChurch7 ай бұрын
  • Man... his vision does have full story without getting a revived yourself and other will took this ben's idea will close to compete it many storyboards part of the episode but now nobody can't beat is main studio never give them a chance with movie, tv series and most of all reboots need to change is not going to be all ages...made for kids' stuff to be funny for us for give us nothing... like teen titans was cut out to be last season no more coming back before crossover other movies. How it about to end of season 3 and 4 starting without cancelled in the 90s cartoon, all your favorite childhood never sees this "THE END" of lost film. Rest and peace Ben, you have a good run on you and SatAM fans. 👏 (Also, I'll will become LC studio no matter what it was cost lot and animation took times for me with one pilot is "Pinky cake meet Pinkslime")

    @jimmyhoandlightcartoon8355@jimmyhoandlightcartoon83556 күн бұрын
  • This video literally came out the day after a Sonic Convention in Bristol I went to ……..Just thought I’d mention! 🤣🤣🤣

    @spinballpac-man@spinballpac-man3 ай бұрын
  • Archie Comics shared a similar storyline of Nicole turning back into her Animal Form as well

    @justincarlbrown1@justincarlbrown13 ай бұрын
  • At 2:05:15 I'm playing this, I just can't imagine not hearing this for the last time. kzhead.info/sun/hNesaLBxgKqrgps/bejne.html Spoilers: It's the show's closing credits.

    @blazingsonic@blazingsonic7 ай бұрын
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