From the Vault: Remington 11-87 from "No Country for Old Men"
We're back in "The Vault" at the movie prop house Independent Studio Services (ISS) with motion picture armorer Larry Zanoff. Today, Larry shows us the silencer-equipped Remington 11-87 shotgun carried by the psychopathic hitman Anton Chigurh, played by Javier Bardem, in "No Country for Old Men." The script simply called for a silenced semi-auto shotgun - but at the time (2005) such a weapon didn't exist! So Larry and his colleagues had to get inside the head of the Anton Chigurh character and create the type of gun he would have built. (Spoiler Alert: they didn't build a real silencer; the "silenced" shots were created through sound editing.) The result? One badass assassin's weapon that became almost another character in the movie!
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Forget the weapons the scariest thing about Anton was his haircut.
It's the clash between the haircut and the psychotic persona,it definitely is an important element in the movie that does make it scary.
Buster Brown is coming for you.
Kenny dalglish esc
To wear a haircut like that with pride you would have to be a killer as a kid I'm sure he was a bully.
The only man who could be terrifying with a bowl cut
"it's not a real silencer its just a contraption on the end of the muzzle" legal defense game on point
There would be no way to muzzle a 12 gauge like that. Not to be that silent anyway. I knew it couldn't be real
@@jaymesnin go play call of duty
@@kayhoww lmao
@@jaymesnin my pal used to fire 3.5 inch Cheddite through a silencer and it was not that much different to the film honestly.and it carved a 3 finger sized hole through 18mm 0sb board and a 1 mm steel uni strut at 50 yards.truly terrifying
@@jaymesnin If you used slugs, it fundamentally work no differently than any other suppressor. Bonus points if you can find or load subsonic rounds. Also, look up "Teleshot" ammunition.
I agree that No Country was a great movie; but when I think of the Anton Chigurh character I don't think of the silenced shotgun - I think of that abattoir gas bottle & bolt gun !
Same. The cattle gun was too cool.
i think of both
I wondered what that contraption was that he used to punch out lock cylinders!
@@angelajohnson6659 captive bolt gun
agreed
Well in the book the silencer is quite well described: "a shopmade silencer fully a foot long and big around as a beer can".
Yep. Made from a map gas bottle.
@@jonathanstill4701 never says that
@@ViktoriousDead I read that book 6 times. It absolutely says that. Matter of fact it goes into quite a bit of detail about how he made the can. Read it agian, Duke.
They were pretty spot on other than the length
@@jonathanstill4701 shiiit you right you right
Anton Chigurh is hands down one of the most absolutely terrifying characters in the history of literature/film. Bardem did one hell of a job bringing him to life on the screen
Yeah ghosts and monsters don’t hold a candle to a well written human villain.
Is there a book?
@@ESRUTILO yes
You're right.
@Goughs Bastard the Border Trilogy as his best? Interesting take. Personally, I think Blood Meridian and Suttree are without a doubt his best (the B.T is still obviously fantastic though).
“What’s the most you’ve ever lost on a coin toss?”
🙁
Sir?
The most.... you ever lost on a coin toss.
😐
What time do you go to bed?
"We made this silencer" ATF wants to know your dog's location.
Repeal the federal arms act of 1934 and your problem is solved
Unlike you, he has an armorer's license...
@@SoloFalcon1138 armorers liscense doesn't allow you to produce items that are restricted, unless you have federal permits.
Hey you forgot to shoot that chiwawa
@@HealedCoyote997 Form 1 does, it's faster than a Form 3 too
"StepoutofthecarPleaseSir" "What?" "Iwantyoutostepoutofthecar,sir"
😂😂
I actually met the guy that plays the victim in that scene. He runs the bank in Marfa Texas. Really nice guy.
@@branchsnapper2228 That's great!
Did he get robbed by those two pesky brothers Tanner and Toby by chance? @branchsnapper2228
I wish they put a "silencer" on the background music while he was talking.
Just every once in a while you hear it barely audible over the background music.
Silencer is the original name, from the 1st person who patented it. So silencer is correct
😭😭😭😭😭gawddamn man
@@josephholley4017 not a lick
What background music?
"Do you see me?"
No
*proceeds to coin toss*
He wasn’t an accountant. He lied to Anton. Anton asks who he is. He lies. Anton knows it. Proceeds to tell him about the Mexicans and the receiver. The alleged lowly accountant knows of this. Accountant my rear end. The dude was dead meat.
"who said that?.."
I HEAR A VOICE, HELLO??
Anton Chigur is rated as one of the most--if not THE most--authentic cinematic representation of a psycopath ever. And if you've watched other films with "psychos" in them, they don't hold a candle to this character and, especially, to Javier Bardem's repreesentation of him. F*cking brilliant!
I'm curious about the backstory of Chicurgh: any idea if he had a tough upbringing growing up which led him on the path he chose? Losing a parent or both at a young age?
Yeah he comes off as a man that has his own system of ethics that make sense to him. But he's just a killer.
Up there, if not above, Todd Alquist (idk I didn’t watch Breaking Bad but I have watch old men, not to mention No Country For Old Men)
I don't want to be a know it all, but psychopaths are very different from Chigurh. I work in this field, as I research the biochemistry and neurobiology of psychpaths. I would go so far as to say Chigurh was not a psychopath at all. He may have had some psychpathic traits. But: The two primary characteristics of psychopaths - the so called "core traits" of psychopaths - are positive effect, and extraversion. People with high positive affectivity are typically enthusiastic, energetic, confident, active, and alert. Chigurh was not extraverted, nor did he have a high positive affect. Chigurh was a cold blooded killer. A psychopath is remorseless, yes, but their main features are positive affect, extraversion, and then, glibness, superficial charm, and narcissism. Check out Dr Robert Hare's Psychopath checklist. A psychopaths main weapon isn't their callousness. It's their charm. They appear likeable, agreeable, engaging. They're con artists. They con people, trick them, manipulate them. In many ways Chigurhh was not psychopathic at all. He had a code. He viewed himself as a manifestation of fate. A psychopath has no such conviction, and no such compunction. A more accurate depiction of a psychopath - again as distinct from a cold blooded killer - would be in the UK TV show Des, about the serial killer Dennis Nilsen. Psychopaths are also characterised by reactive anger, and impulsive violence. Chigurh was calculating. Cold. Careful. People often conflate psychopathy with cold blooded killers. Watch Ted Bundys interviews it behaviour in the court room during his Florida case. He's arrogant and brash, he's talkative, extraverted and charming. He scored very highly on the psychopath checklist. For more on psychopaths, check out any of Dr Hares works, or Dr Hervey Cleckleys pioneering work "The Mask of Sanity."
@@eggmcguffin4794def not todd lmao maybe inglorious bastards dude
I was surprised he didn't also mention that such a shotgun didn't exist in 1980 either -- the year in which the movie is set.
I like to pretend it was an 1100 so I can avoid thinking about that error lol.
Phased Plasma Rifle in the 40 watt range.
@@Ktallicano one cares about the error
@@Daniel-WeaverJust what you see, Pal.
@@SirWilly77 Hey, you can't do that.
"People always say that." "Say what?" "You don't have to do this."
“...You don’t”
Dam I was hoping for a demonstration.
Same here, I even fast forward the video looking for that demo.
I imagine that it does a negligible job of stressing the shot. As he said it’s completely Hollywood aesthetic and the movie audio was all sound effects. Furthermore, suppressing a 12gauge would require something much larger. And I don’t know if using shot could be suppressed, let alone silenced. Maybe a slug could be suppressed to some effect.
No kidding, same here
They can’t demonstrate it, it’s a prop and wouldn’t fire, plus it wouldn’t be silent.
@@johnnybraccia452 was thinking same thing. Subsonic slugs could probably be pretty quiet.
2:46 "And what does he care what the metal finish is? He's an assassin" Cartels: _laughs with $60k ornate guns_
The Remington is scary alone, but Anton Chigur with the Remington is something else.
"Is that what you're asking me? Is there something wrong with anything?"
"You dont know what your talking about do you "
you married into it?
"Call it, Friendo"
"What business is it with you where i come from friendo?"
😄
In the book he talks about it being a military grade shotgun with a shop made can
Book is a good read better than movie
Robert Dereski There’s always that one person who has to respond with this comment. Also, it’s not.
Rusty Shackleford It’s never better to not see something. In a movie, you can actually see it happening, rather closing your eyes and thinking about it. For example, would you rather read Penthouse Letters in the magazine or watch the real thing on the internet?... Ok now I’m just being facetious. This person just wants everyone to know that he read a book. I bet he’s a vegan too, and tells everyone his whole life story within a matter of minutes after meeting him. Don’t read too in depth into my comment. 😏
Regarding the book vs movie debate: Ordinarily I would agree that books are better, but we’re talking about the Coen Brothers here. You couldn’t ask for a better set of filmmakers for this book. While their work was amazing (just the cinematography alone!), the book did contain a lot of subtle yet powerful elements we don’t see on screen. All in all, the book and the movie- in this instance- are a tie. They’re both equal yet different masterpieces.
The military used Remington 870 and Mossberg 500 pump shotguns. Only recently have a few semiautomatic shotguns been added. The breach stays closed on a pump shotgun and they can fire a wide variety of loads. Semiautomatic shotguns tend to be more finicky and the suppressor could screw it up.
-where did you get that Sir ? - at the getting place
deki r my favorite line
I love that his tool and weapon of choice is all silent, he even took his shoes off before breaching that other hired group's room, I love his style, very original.
“If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?”
Do you have any idea..how crazy you are?
You mean the nature of this conversation?
@@JayTekken1 I mean the nature of YOU.
Lol love it, finished Carlson's lines in my head. Then read them here. Great movie.
The irony of this being turned around on anton when the car hit him... this movie was amazing
Phase plasma rifle in a 40 watt range!
@Meat Grinder Mike uuuzii nine millameta
@@akmd114379 You really know your weapons. Any of these would be ideal for home defense. Anything else?
30 watt
There's a coin toss scene with Arnold's voice dubbed over Xaivier.
*loads shell into SPAS 12*
I think Anton Chigurh was the kinda guy who would make an ersatz suppressor out of an oil filter.
And would do absolutely nothing to suppress a shotgun at all...
That silenced shotgun that the assassin had was insane. Love this movie
“What time do you go to bed?” “Around dark” “I could come back then”
Why would you be coming back, we'd be closed...?
jakisthe XD
jakisthe “You already said that.”
"You're a bit deaf aren't you?"
Heeaads then..
I love how the music is all cheery for one of the darkest movies ever lol
Hardly one of the darkest movies ever, even if it may be one of the darkest movies you've seen, it's far from something like A Serbian Film, Salo, etc.
Darkest movie ever? Lmao okay.
Daniel Lee well.......maybe not darkest. But Anton Chigurh is super dark
OuijaSTi I shall check them out. Thank you
OuijaSTi What music? I don’t think there was any in the Movie? I could be wrong?
Wow how fascinating, you guys did an incredible job. The gun on its own is so cool but in Antons hands it becomes absolutely iconic, probably my favorite movie weapon ever.
Great movie. Slow, serious, great acting, no scantily clad hotties, no exploding jets in every scene
Put the silencer on my gta v pump shotgun cuz of chigur
Me too I did that for trevor cause hes crazy 😂
I did the same thing lol makes it my favorite weapon
Same
Same lol
We all did
So you married into it? I loved that scene.
Alan Warner if thats the way you want to put it..
I don’t have some way to put it, that’s just the way it is.
What’s the most you’ve ever lost in a coin toss?
@@lance3526 Good way to decide to kill someone.
Alan Warner no it’s a terrible way you jackass. Shouldn’t be killing anyone.
Point of interest: The last time we see this weapon in the film is when Anton Chigurh -- whether in actuality or just in Sheriff Bell's imagination -- is pictured behind the door at the Desert Sands Hotel when Bell revisits the crime scene where Llewelyn Moss was murdered. Interestingly, when Chigurh later confronts Carla Jean after her mother's funeral (or afterward in his car accident) he no longer has it.
The perfect silenced weapon that does not even suppress sound. Nice!
Always enjoy seeing Larry talk about the work they do at ISS. Thank you guys for this series!
The sound they came up with was the best part...totally unrealistic, but undeniably sexy..then silence.
Not sure if "sexy" is the word I'd go with
@@YarrBr0 satisfying maybe is a better word
Just thinking about Tommy Lee Jones’ monologue at the very end gives me cold chills. “Out there in all that dark and all that cold...”
Love seeing this behind the scenes type of stuff. Awesome stuff.
“Heads or tails” “Huh” “Call it”
"You've been putting it up through your whole life, just didn't know."
@@26muca07 you got to call it , I can't call it for you . other wise is not fair.
@@Gamingclutch1993 I'm a horror movie guy. And this scene is at my #1 most tense moments while watching a movie... It's not even horror...
"You're a little deaf aren't you?"
@Tyrone Taylor Don't put it in your pocket sir!!
I started listening to 'The Black Angels' because of the movie "No Country for Old Men". May I recommend the viewers take a listen to their album titled 'Passover'. It has the song "Young Men Dead" which we hear in the movie. They're like The Doors but with a modern - more psychedelic twist. Keep up the good work my friends. EDITED for double spacing and misspelling.
I listened to that
👍'd for editing the double spaces. Good recommendation, also.
Man I remember seeing them live a few times around 2011. Super great stuff
A "Hush puppy" was a .22 semiautomatic pistol with a suppressor integrated into the barrel. It was used in Vietnam.The name came from its use of silencing dogs in villages and elsewhere where you needed to keep your presence quiet.
that’s really different from this
Thanks👍
Great work on this design. Very stylish and fitting.
“Do you have any idea how crazy you are”
215WEApON you mean the nature of this conversation?
@@stevea3149 no...i mean the nature of you
you can have the money Anton (forced smile as a last effort at life)
Not in the sense that you mean.
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
I love Larry's work on Gun Stories and Hollywood Weapons. He and Terry have a real chemistry.
its one of a few movies that you can start at any point and get the story enough to be engrossed. amazing flick.
Fantastic prop work. The material and finish choice for the silencer in contrast to the gun, the shape and size of it, the visual balance between the two. Makes for an instantly recognizeable, distinctive and iconic look.
“Its just a metal contraption on the end of the muzzle” .... as is every suppressor... lmao
Not really... A poorly-made suppressor will blow out all of the baffling on its first shot, then the rest of the muzzle blasts will actually be louder because the shell of the can will act like a speaker cone.
@@nercksrule Well you're right, I think what he is saying is... technically a suppressor IS just a metal contraption, not necessarily a badly made one... But guns are just metal contraptions too lol.
i wonder if it really sounds like a 1970s flash camera when they shoot it, like the movie ncfom makes it sound
Tom Conlin From first hand experience, thats a big no. Unless its something small caliber with brand new wipes like the old hush puppy/B&T VP9, or an integrally suppressed .22, that is. Even then it’s really not the pin-drop “pthew” the movies make it out to be. Suppressors only average around 28-40 decibel reduction.
What he means is it is only for looks, has no actual muffling and not functional.
"What business is it of yours where I'm from? Friendo".
I didnt mean nuthin by it
He's kind of a dick.
Have seen this movie 4 times, never gets old!
Woody never got to fire a shot..Chigurh just eased in behind him going up the stairs.. woody's character was like "ok, im history.."
Thanks for the video, Friendo.
What business is it of yours
"It was a great book, and a really good movie." Oh...he's that guy.
What?
@@stickman3214 IIRC the movie won an Oscar for Best Picture. So, a little better than really good.
Luvta Handload think he just tryna say the book better cause it give you more to imagine and in the movie it just is the way it is
@@luvtahandload7692 the film was ok wouldn't day it was that great
@@danielkerr4100 it started out slow. My local theater finally got it in months after it won Best Picture. It had an all-star cast.
One of my all time favorite MOVIES!! Great job on the shotgun 👍
Mr Javier Bardem your work on this film was outstanding good job.
the look of that gun was genius. I love how he almost drags it around as he walks through the hallway of the motel and sneaks up on lewellen.
NO MORE BACKGROUND MUSIC. Stop it. Forever.
This was really interesting video and its always nice to see a person explain something so fluently in which they are an expert in. But, was kind screaming "shoot the gun already" on the inside throughout the video.
the sound it makes is so other worldly in the film its crazy
"And then all Heck breaks loose"...well golly gee.
John Berry Conway III *insert captain America* language!
If the Remington tac-13 was available when this movie was made it would have been even better
Isr Strategies but how would you get a silencer on it?
One of my fave movies. Loved the noise that shotty made.
remington suppressed sound effect was nailed in the movie in my opinion.
Great piece!
"You could even say that he has principles. Principles that transcend money or drugs or anything like that"
Well he don't talk as much as you. I'll give him that.
@@jshepard152 Yes he does watch the movie 😂
Great Presentation! Cleared it up for me.
the sound was sick too
“Would you hold still, please, sir?”
Very interesting 'behind the curtain' look at how the weapon was developed. Great explanation... Shows you how much work and creativity actually goes into making a movie.
Sawed Off vs. Suppressed Shotgun. Never saw that before NCFOM. Spectacular Movie!
Only Anton Chigurh could make a coin toss terrifying
If the rule that you followed brought you to this... Of what use was the rule?
Love that quote
Do you have any idea..how crazy you are?
meow bastard you mean the nature of this conversation?
@@andrewwestman2407 I mean the nature of you
Ah no, my good sir. Anton Chigurh isn't maniacal. ... He lives in a society.
😔😳
Marcel la Rastaban nice pfp!
He is what society has become
That’s very cool, and I love learning little things like this. Thanks foe the video.
i came here because i was totally impressed from the beauty of that gun and the silencer and now hear "we made it kinda look like he made it up in his garage" XD
Too bad the shotgun is an anachronism. The movie takes place in 1980, and the 11-87 didn't come out until 1987. They should have used an 1100.
It's funny you say that because I believe there is a scene in the convenience store where there is Jack Link's beef jerky in the background and that too was also not around at the time the story takes place.
It’s hard to make a film without anachronisms. In the gas station scene, Anton’s peanut wrapper has a nutrition label, those weren’t widespread until a while later, not in 1980
I’m glad there’s some autist out there finding these things out
A bunch of old people recalling the past because they can’t remember the present.
nice pic, Lateralus is the greatest ever
That pressure canister was scary as hell 😳
That was the first movie to give me nightmares since i was a kid... And i think I know why, the whole movie seemed to perfectly encapsulate that feeling of being chased down in a dream and you cant get away
Great movie and no one else could have played that character better than Javier Bardem.
Getting into the mind of a crazed killer whith a supressed 12 gauge in you’re hands. What could go wrong. 😂
Even at only about 4 mins, the video starts to feel a bit long to just finally acknowledge: It's just a prop can bolted to the end of a prop gun.
WTF the subject of the video is a famous film prop. What were you expecting? The legit real onscreen prop obviously does not function, doubt it even shoots blanks.
Neojhun It’s a real gun. Every time he shoots it in the film it’s firing blank ammunition.
Anton using the livestock bolt killer was crazy
This movie never gets old, you can watch it over and over again and learn new facts. I didn't know some things like if you see him you die. That got me hooked!!!
You ever wonder if he met another killer what would happen
“What’s the most you’ve ever lost on calling it a silencer"
If I remember correctly from the book the sound of it being fired is akin to a "man coughing into a barrel." Something unsettling about that.
thanks for that! awesome.
it might have nothing to do with anything but i like that the colors don't match. It fits Anton, he doesn't care how it works and it has no personality, but if it kills, it works
Interesting and worthwhile video.
He said you have to “become Javier Bardem” as if Javier Bardem was just playing himself in the movie
Great video. I had originally thought that it actually was a suppressor made for the movie. One observation, though, the assassin's name in NCFOM is _Anton Chigurh_
Uh, you mean the actor wasn't a real assassin? Good lord, you're breaking the movie for me.
@@RyeOnHam Yeah, seriously. Xavier Bardem is only an actor, not an actual killer. I was confused about it too. Go figure...
@@tuberaider They should have hired Keanu Reeves, then, if they wanted a real assassin.
great movie, great book, and great opening line from a great poet, WB Yeats, his poem,"Sailing to Bysantium"
Really enjoyed this presentation, very knowledgeable thank you.
So, from a 'reality' point of view, all that needs to be done to make this silencer is drilling a whole bunch of holes in the barrel and deburring the bore. The outer sleeve has a good amount of volume. Not sure it would be 'silent', but it would reduce the report somewhat. That's just a Form 1 and a 9-month wait away.
That title 2 post requires a form 4 and 200 dollars.
It would be not as noisy
@@videosuperhighway7655 I don't think Anton cares very much about tax stamps.
I love the sound they came up with for this weapon! It’s exactly how i imagine a Remington 1oz rifled projectile spinning threw a suppressor would sound. Can we get a demo anyone???
he probaly uses buck
You can look up videos of people shooting suppressed shotguns. They do not make a 'foop' sound. Furthermore, any suppressed firearm with a report that quiet would still have the sound of the action cycling. (If you have a semiauto shotgun to do this with, go into a quiet room and quickly cycle the action a few times. It's pretty noisy.)
The sound of it being fired is what most got my attention. I thought the sound was great!!
Thank you for the interesting presentation.
Thanks for the interesting video. I'm surprised there was no mention of how unrealistic the sound level was in the film (as is the case in all films featuring hollywood "silencers").
How are they wrong? (Serious question, I have no idea)
@@sigmundfreude4088 Suppressors (called silencers in Hollywood) do not make gunshots sound like silent farts or Star Trek sliding doors closing. It is still quite loud; probably comparable to when the neighbors call the police to complain about the loud electric guitar playing solos and strumming power chords, or the loud rock drummer.
Anyone else remember 10 years ago, when red jacket came out with an actual suppressed shotgun?
I remember when the first shotgun silencer/suppressor was released they talked about this gun prop.
That movie was awesome and no CGI
Yes, it was a "good" book.. but compared to the films that are/have been made this past 20 years it's an _exceptionally_ brilliant movie.
It's completely far fetched.
@@JesseWright68 It's a "movie"?
CorMac mcarthy is a legendary author
Call it!
That is the most beautiful silencer I’ve ever seen
Amazing movie. One of my all time favs now