Republican Roman Soldiers of the Second Punic War

2017 ж. 15 Ақп.
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During the Second Punic War, the Republican Romans used just five kinds of soldier, and here I describe them and their roles.
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  • "Video about Roman soldiers." *Interest peaks* "How they were ranked and elected." *Excitement mounts* "I talked for 38 minutes." *Grabs popcorn* "So I had to cut it down." *Popcorn withdraws in disappointment* All those in favour of feature length Lloyd ramblings say "Pilum!"

    @inconceivablecanine9014@inconceivablecanine90147 жыл бұрын
    • Pilum!

      @Biczeschlappe@Biczeschlappe7 жыл бұрын
    • Pudge Wolfe Pilum!

      @Koendabomb@Koendabomb7 жыл бұрын
    • Pudge Wolfe Pilum!

      @HarryPotter-uv8yp@HarryPotter-uv8yp7 жыл бұрын
    • Pilum!

      @bendo9162@bendo91627 жыл бұрын
    • Pilum! And Celtic Berserkers armed with war-picks

      @chadthundercock4982@chadthundercock49827 жыл бұрын
  • 'As people got older, they generally got richer' - I still haven't got the hang of that.

    @Camcolito@Camcolito4 жыл бұрын
    • Try making more money than u spend.also spend money on things that make/save money :v

      @mardukgilgamesh1500@mardukgilgamesh15004 жыл бұрын
    • Also on campaign you not only got regular pay but also plunder

      @kilaliam671@kilaliam6714 жыл бұрын
    • Try pillaging more

      @knightshousegames@knightshousegames4 жыл бұрын
    • Rome did not yet have banks. In fact archeologists are still finding jars of coins from the late Imperial period buried in different spots.

      @christianfreedom-seeker934@christianfreedom-seeker9344 жыл бұрын
    • What's up fellow Velite !

      @joeyjaime3746@joeyjaime37464 жыл бұрын
  • Btw, Pila is a (somewhat childish) portuguese slang for penis. So, when the enemy was being hit by a load of pila, they were well and truly fucked :/

    @godthisisannoying@godthisisannoying7 жыл бұрын
    • -And it was the... "tip" of the pila that did the work -It was also designed to bend upon penetration so that it was hard to pull it out *snickering*

      @TheSecondVersion@TheSecondVersion7 жыл бұрын
    • OMG.

      @sallyforth3225@sallyforth32256 жыл бұрын
  • "Our velites defeated the enemy." "What the..."

    @somewright4440@somewright44407 жыл бұрын
    • "Punish them!"

      @neutronalchemist3241@neutronalchemist32417 жыл бұрын
    • If the skirmishers take out the enemy that is exactly how I would have responded followed with a face palm of biblical proportions.

      @jamessheesley5484@jamessheesley54845 жыл бұрын
    • If your velites defeat the enemy, was it really an enemy?

      @Fif0l@Fif0l5 жыл бұрын
    • @@Fif0l Exactly. Either you were about to be ambushed or you were purposely misled and the enemy has walked past your forces and is on their way to taking your undefended homes.

      @agustinl2302@agustinl23024 жыл бұрын
    • They actually had the most "fun" job. Throwing javelins at random elephants and other skirmishers would be very adrenaline latent.

      @JoeyVol@JoeyVol4 жыл бұрын
  • Republican roman soldiers?... As in.. Banning persians and making pompeii great again? . Not to mention hadrians wall.

    @jakeflorence2005@jakeflorence20057 жыл бұрын
    • Jake Florence ohhh damm the jokes are on fire

      @thekaasmaster8172@thekaasmaster81727 жыл бұрын
    • The empire grabs back

      @andrewkazakevich8611@andrewkazakevich86117 жыл бұрын
    • Well the American political model is loosely based on the Roman one so......... Trump Caesar?

      @Calsopify@Calsopify7 жыл бұрын
    • better than the democrat romans who just let the barbarians run amok and rape and kill and pillage

      @ccswelding1599@ccswelding15997 жыл бұрын
    • gripe, gripe, gripe...

      @capnclawhammer3024@capnclawhammer30247 жыл бұрын
  • I WANT THE 38 MINUTES VERSION TOO! No ammount of Lindybeige is too much Lindybeige.

    @GerackSerack@GerackSerack7 жыл бұрын
    • +

      @wobblysauce@wobblysauce7 жыл бұрын
    • Will Shellman I'm just more impressed with that now after I was told he doesn't script or cut.

      @LoisoPondohva@LoisoPondohva7 жыл бұрын
    • +Loiso Pondohva it is not that hard, try speaking of something you know very well and much of.

      @SNIperofDARKness02@SNIperofDARKness027 жыл бұрын
    • SNIperofDARKness02 it's hard to make it so smooth. Most of the people make more mistakes. It could be hard to notice first-hand, and easier to see on the record in retrospect. I don't say it's impossible. I do it for a living in some sence, although in my own language (well, he does too). I just say his quality deserves appreciation.

      @LoisoPondohva@LoisoPondohva7 жыл бұрын
    • Speaking as someone with little talent for smooth video performance (look at my few banjo vids, long story made short, I SUCK) I am constantly greeneyed with envy of Lloyd's screen presence.

      @capnclawhammer3024@capnclawhammer30247 жыл бұрын
  • Battered, shattered, but none of it mattered, the Triarii cut down the units that scattered.

    @CrackingPearPrd@CrackingPearPrd7 жыл бұрын
    • Cracking Pear Productions so they wouldn’t wind up plastered.

      @CraftQueenJr@CraftQueenJr5 жыл бұрын
    • ....covered and smothered.

      @GenXstacker@GenXstacker5 жыл бұрын
    • ...bleeding and crying, eventually dying

      @imaducky2617@imaducky26174 жыл бұрын
    • What're we doing?

      @victoresan@victoresan4 жыл бұрын
    • Is it too late to join?

      @RB-tl8cf@RB-tl8cf3 жыл бұрын
  • "The most experienced men are qualified to do next to nothing." So nothing has changed. That's a perfect summary of all but two of the chiefs and one master chief I worked for in the US Navy.

    @franciscodanconia3551@franciscodanconia35514 жыл бұрын
    • Of course. If you work, you make mistakes. If you don't work, you don't make mistakes. If you don't make mistakes, you're promoted.....

      @Lassisvulgaris@Lassisvulgaris3 жыл бұрын
  • "Nobody expected the velites to defeat the enemy" Meanwhile in Rome: Total War...

    @AllCanadiaReject@AllCanadiaReject7 жыл бұрын
    • Tbh, I like the velites but after eating one too many frontal charges I kept them on my flanks.

      @AlvorReal@AlvorReal6 жыл бұрын
    • I never use them actually

      @hellothere507@hellothere5076 жыл бұрын
    • Thats because in that game the unit strenght its related to its culture rather than actual facts. So logic goes like this: Rome total war = rome OP wins all map with only Hastatii and auto resolve in Hardest dificulty.

      @sergiohenrique2411@sergiohenrique24116 жыл бұрын
    • I mainly use large numbers of equites or calvaries to lure the enemy to break formation and once they are scattered I smash them in detail with repeatedly hitting from behind and run before they can retaliate.

      @bingbong1821@bingbong18216 жыл бұрын
    • Then you have AoE II, elephants hard counter skirmishers

      @juanfranciscocosta5387@juanfranciscocosta53875 жыл бұрын
  • If RomeTW taught me anything, it is that the most devastating unit in those times was the Arcani - a elite squad of Roman Ninjas. Im surprised Lindy is not up to speed on them.

    @adymode@adymode7 жыл бұрын
    • The time of RTW is over, R2 is the thing now... oh nevermind *cries in DLC

      @telemnarnumenorean8557@telemnarnumenorean85577 жыл бұрын
    • Andrew Input Those were the dumbest units in the game but I still loved them

      @LouisKing995@LouisKing9957 жыл бұрын
    • Harry Pothead Urban fucking cohort. fire man who can defeat heavy roman infantry. seems legit.

      @GeertWilders-dg9ui@GeertWilders-dg9ui7 жыл бұрын
    • Geert Wilders #2017 But at least they were a real unit. The arcani, as they were presented in TW, were completely fantasy. The real Aracni(called Areani) were imperial Intelligence operatives used in Roman Britain during the 4th century, not battlefield Ninja warriors.

      @LouisKing995@LouisKing9957 жыл бұрын
    • NO? Aw, man, I'm crushed! I was so hoping they'd have extra-long katanas with antipersonnel pommels and incendiary throwing stars and and

      @capnclawhammer3024@capnclawhammer30247 жыл бұрын
  • The idea of the triares serving as a sort of "command presence" encouraging the first and second line to stay in the fight feels right to me. Any veteran who has known a grizzled old sergeant knows the feeling you can get just from having them around -- they inevitably have a sort of steadying, calming presence that makes you feel like "Oh, yes, it IS all going to be alright, isn't it?"

    @Oberon4278@Oberon42787 жыл бұрын
  • Did anyone else burst out laughing when he said, "they usefully ran away."

    @thelemming54@thelemming544 жыл бұрын
    • Brave, brave sir Robin

      @multiapokalipsa@multiapokalipsa3 жыл бұрын
    • Anyone else laugh when he talks mentions the equites being "very useful for scouting." Just made me think of all the times rome is ambushed by Hannibal and the gauls. Maybe that makes sense though that their scouts are these spoiled rich kids with a ticket to politics and so they don't bother doing their job very well.

      @TheJimmyp427@TheJimmyp4273 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheJimmyp427 spot on imo. Definitely they also didn't see this as something "Honorable" as the Romans were just more prone all out frontal battle.

      @tasnimulsarwar9189@tasnimulsarwar91893 жыл бұрын
    • A la MP"s *"The Holy Grail"*

      @RDO-tw4qn@RDO-tw4qn3 жыл бұрын
    • Hahaha didn’t anyone burst out laughing at this part?? ____ BWAHAHA ITS HILARIOUS hahah did anyone else start BURSTING with laughter and joy at this part?

      @Monkforilla@Monkforilla3 жыл бұрын
  • You mean the most effective unit against elephants wasn't flaming pigs, I'm a bit disapointed about that

    @JustMe-kp8ik@JustMe-kp8ik7 жыл бұрын
    • Or, mice wranglers. "Release the mice!"

      @TheCoffeehound@TheCoffeehound7 жыл бұрын
    • Coffeehound "Welease Woger!"

      @SenorTucano@SenorTucano7 жыл бұрын
    • It's a Rome Total War 1 reference

      @Lo-tf6qt@Lo-tf6qt6 жыл бұрын
    • Hey, I'm sure that if you were to actually take a bunch of pigs and set them ablaze before sending them running and screeching towards the elephants that would very much scare the shit out of them.

      @filipferencak2717@filipferencak27175 жыл бұрын
    • @@filipferencak2717 hell, if i beheld shrieking pigs set ablaze coming at me, i would be a bit taken aback

      @dreadedlyfe@dreadedlyfe5 жыл бұрын
  • You mentioned the use of trumpets to relay messages and it got me thinking, I'd love to see a video on the use of musical instruments in war.

    @NeilDoyle92@NeilDoyle927 жыл бұрын
    • Definitely, but the Chinese use of bugles has to be included. It's too funny.

      @PromethiumOxide@PromethiumOxide7 жыл бұрын
    • I have always loved horns so if they have their place there it would be an awesome video

      @monkeyorful@monkeyorful7 жыл бұрын
    • I did my dissertation on Roman brass music. Even now in Afghanistan, the British used Bugles to get the radio chatter to flare up and triangulate the location.

      @falcons1988@falcons19887 жыл бұрын
    • The Roman Army had three different types of Trumpeter (or Horn Player). The Cornicen, played the Cornu - HORN. (not a Trumpet). Horn in Italian is Corni, they mainly featured with the Infantry. Then you had the trumpeters; Tubicen and Buccinaetors. They played the Tuba (an 4ft-8ft long post horn) and Buccina. The Tubicen main had cavalry roles and general staff, though I believe they did feature with the Infantry. It is possible Buccinaetors were more musician than battlefield. (little is known). At first glance the Buccina and Cornu look exactly the same, but they aren't. I think that clue to their difference lies within the name, and it is backed up by archaeological evidence and the study of the mouthpiece. The Buccina and or Tuba in Latin translates and Trumpet; Cornu translates as horn. Could it be reasonable to suggest that this is the difference and therefore construction? Now I am rewriting my dissertation.... Lindy, Can we collaborate?

      @falcons1988@falcons19887 жыл бұрын
    • Why is that? What did the Chinese do with bugles?

      @Hirsch3y@Hirsch3y7 жыл бұрын
  • So reading Asterix is not enough to learn about Roman soldiers?

    @samikalastaja@samikalastaja6 жыл бұрын
    • You might learn something, but Asterix and his companions are fighting against Julius Caesar and his troops, so there's a 150-200 year gap between the army of Caesar and those of the punic wars.During that time the roman army was heavily re organised, especially under Marius. And the lorica segmentata that the legionnaries wear in Asterix were used late in the reign of Augustus up til the 3rd centrury, so they would not have been available at the time of Caesar's campaigns.

      @havareriksen3395@havareriksen33955 жыл бұрын
    • Of course it is! Likewise, I got my knowledge of the UK watching documentaries like the Benny Hill show.

      @obfuscated3090@obfuscated30905 жыл бұрын
    • @Dieter Gaudlitz the hell are you talking about

      @garliconionshallot@garliconionshallot5 жыл бұрын
    • @Dieter Gaudlitz They probably didn't have enough time to form up before Asterix and Obelix bashed them, with that magic potion thing.

      @gavinhudson5251@gavinhudson52515 жыл бұрын
    • Psychologically psyching up your troops with placebo magic is just as effective as popping tylenol. Just ask someone with a headache. That shit works.

      @JoeyVol@JoeyVol4 жыл бұрын
  • Lindybeige going off the rails and making a much longer video than planned is the Lindybeigiest Lindybeige thing to do.

    @dorkmax7073@dorkmax70735 жыл бұрын
  • As a statistical representation of the average sensible consumer you should be advised that I will not purchase your book unless it makes gratuitous use of fire arrows, heeled boots, and dual wielding. You have been warned.

    @jontrout2010@jontrout20107 жыл бұрын
    • *insert pommel throw here*

      @rainnydaay2116@rainnydaay21167 жыл бұрын
    • That sounds painful.

      @ViolosD2I@ViolosD2I7 жыл бұрын
    • Jon Trout mounted archers?

      @Rajj854@Rajj8547 жыл бұрын
    • Lots of lightsaber moments.

      @amitabhakusari2304@amitabhakusari23046 жыл бұрын
    • Little did you know, NO ONE would be purchasing that book...

      @rohan1_@rohan1_2 жыл бұрын
  • Wrong, Lloyd, just WRONG. Everybody knows that you need to shoot fire arrows at elephants to make them run amok! It's almost as if you've read an actual book instead of spending your formative years alone in your room playing Rome Total War

    @AtunSheiFilms@AtunSheiFilms7 жыл бұрын
    • The best think is Numidian Cavalary! Fast and throwing Spears kill the elephants when i play even when they run amok their run in my army

      @bebe89ger@bebe89ger7 жыл бұрын
    • Atun-Shei Films Dude just get some pigs, set them on fire, THEN you deal with the elephants.

      @marcelob.678@marcelob.6787 жыл бұрын
    • Except that everyone knows that the real way to defeat elephants is to send your elf buddy skilled in archery to climb up the elephant's back legs, kill anyone riding the elephant, shoot 3 arrows into the back of its head, and slide off the trunk.

      @thexalon@thexalon5 жыл бұрын
    • OR just get one guy on a horse with a spear to skewer the guy streering the elephant. This will (obviously) make the skewered guy turn the elephant that he is riding directly towards the other elephant and since the elephants themselves are brainless robots, they will smash into each other and kill each other.

      @filipferencak2717@filipferencak27175 жыл бұрын
    • I didn't see that joke coming!

      @victorfergn@victorfergn5 жыл бұрын
  • im gladii i watched your videii

    @sneedNfeed@sneedNfeed7 жыл бұрын
    • Harshith P.K You made your pointy point -- or at least you took a stab at it.

      @donna30044@donna300446 жыл бұрын
    • Punny.

      @ddickson1167@ddickson11674 жыл бұрын
    • Gaudeo video hoc videre sum

      @giulioaprati338@giulioaprati3384 жыл бұрын
    • You fugged it up in 2 languages.

      @davidgormunt9031@davidgormunt90313 жыл бұрын
    • @@davidgormunt9031 yeah lol... Looking back at my teen self, that was kinda cringe 😅

      @sneedNfeed@sneedNfeed3 жыл бұрын
  • Lindy: "I'd like, if I may, to talk about Roman soldiers for a while." Me: "You may not!" And yet he kept going. How rude!

    @MCYonazz@MCYonazz5 жыл бұрын
  • If the Triarii were hanging around at the back with long spears, maybe they were there to defend the army from outflanking cavalry. Wouldn't that make a lot of sense? I mean, if the Romans' own cavalry was usually outnumbered by those of their enemies, then putting their somewhat lower-energy (but seasoned, no-nonsense type) people all along the army's rear with long spears would make for a pretty obvious choice, I should think.

    @jamesgordley5000@jamesgordley50007 жыл бұрын
    • Yes it would make sense - total sense. You are spot on! Romans almost never had an advantage in cavalry, and their famous multi-line formation with Triarii at the back is ideal if a flank gets turned. A single line is hopelessly vulnerable to cavalry flanking, and can be rolled up even by infantry if it's broken anywhere along its length. So it was the younger and fitter men that engaged first as they have more stamina. The heavyweights like Principes and Triarii did the knockout punching. So the enemy attack is disrupted by the Velites and Hastati. Then as the Hastati are holding the enemy the Principes counter attack the line.

      @Caratacus1@Caratacus17 жыл бұрын
    • I just wanted to say the same thing. Long spears sounds like they were used to guard the rear or - if thing go wrong - the retreating army from a light-cavalry attack. Retreating infantry is defenceless against cavalry.

      @TheGyuuula@TheGyuuula7 жыл бұрын
    • James Gordley they probably served both as a force to guard the flanks and to form a line in the case of a retreat. That is the idea of reserves, they are supposed to be adaptable

      @kapitankapital6580@kapitankapital65807 жыл бұрын
    • They act as senior warriors, their presence is mainly to prevent any retreat from the less experienced battle lines, or to allow them to reform behind in preparation of a renewed attack. They truly are a pillar. The were able to defend the rear on a few occasions but, most of the times, if they are attacked from this direction, it can only be because the flanks have failed, which most certainly means the battle is lost. In Cannae, the triarii line was indeed struck from the rear, but what they saw coming at them was not the enemy, but all sort of allied units and attendance that were resting behind, and who were the ones who faced the Numidian cavalry coming back into combat after they had chased the Roman flanks out of the battlefield.

      @zamzamazawarma928@zamzamazawarma9287 жыл бұрын
    • *James Gordley* Nope. The role of guarding the Roman army's flanks was reserved for the Allies. The Allies also fielded decent cavalry. Remember that the Triarii were a leftover of the old Republican, Greco style phalanx army. And how do you fully exploit the rigid solidness of phalanx shield and spear formations? Guess? Alexander. Companion Cavalry. Hammer and Anvill. Alexander the Great's army had excellent, powerfull companion cavalry that would crush the enemy infantry from the flanks or from behind while they were pinned by the Macedonian phalanx.

      @AudieHolland@AudieHolland7 жыл бұрын
  • you re uploaded it in the middle of me watching it.....

    @grant9855@grant98557 жыл бұрын
    • Curious Beats same here. I was able to watch the video but was unable to like it when it finished. Could this possibly be a sneaky deja-vue experiment? 😆

      @photonic1970@photonic19707 жыл бұрын
    • ya me too i had this theory all typt out and i was correcting it and i thought i lost all of it hahaha

      @annunakim525@annunakim5257 жыл бұрын
    • for what reason was it reuploaded

      @RagbagMcShag@RagbagMcShag7 жыл бұрын
    • probably the advertisement

      @grant9855@grant98557 жыл бұрын
    • It's shorter than the other one

      @mickles1975@mickles19757 жыл бұрын
  • As time passes I am getting increasingly convinced of that videos of this channel can be watched multiple times provided that they are watched with sufficient intervals.

    @ahmettahaaltug1746@ahmettahaaltug17464 жыл бұрын
    • A lot of videos are like that, you can watch any video multiple times if you leave enough time in between.

      @arthurb6882@arthurb688211 ай бұрын
  • I always thought the wolves skin might be a 'Award' of some sort to distinguished velites. Otherwise thats alot of of wolves....Poor wolves.

    @serwombles8816@serwombles88167 жыл бұрын
    • +Lawrence Lai well, its never trully mentioned that velites must have a full wolf coat for each of them as uniform. it more likely that while some has that full wolf coat, some will wear part of it like caps of some sort, making 1 wolf can be wore by more than 1 person. also wolf at 200+ B.C. is borderline "pest" for countryside cattle and vilage, their number was vastly greater than today, and the wolf hunt is quite common without the "mass hunt" image we might think

      @deadwalk7753@deadwalk77537 жыл бұрын
    • I seriously doubt they all had wolf pelts.

      @Lycurgus1982@Lycurgus19825 жыл бұрын
    • @CipiRipi00 poor publious was stuck with a poodle pelt. : )

      @Lycurgus1982@Lycurgus19825 жыл бұрын
    • Wolves compete with humanity , kill pets an children . Man all ways takes out the dangerious predators , Dawn of history till , Teddy Roosevelt , 1975 ,

      @garymingy8671@garymingy86715 жыл бұрын
    • @@garymingy8671 well, not anymore they don't. We are far more dangerous.

      @Lycurgus1982@Lycurgus19825 жыл бұрын
  • A reason you'd want your skirmishers doing the guard and night watch is because it's such a bother, guard and watch duty is a drag and tiring. Having line infantry in formation where some of the guys are wasted from guard duty seems to me to be a recipe for disaster, these guys needs to be 100% on the ball. The Triarii are the backup in case something goes real shite so you can't use them, cavalry is full of rich fucks likely exempt due to their station. Leaves you with the Velites

    @TheZorkiel@TheZorkiel7 жыл бұрын
    • When you job is just to chuck stuff at the enemy, leg it then rinse and repeat, your the dogs body for every thing.

      @SuperFunkmachine@SuperFunkmachine7 жыл бұрын
    • Velites were the poor bastards who still had to join the army in times of need because they were just above the level of penniless paupers. Of course they had to do all the shitty jobs.

      @AudieHolland@AudieHolland7 жыл бұрын
    • Just like a modern army, it's a mix of that (You don't want your commanders and leaders doing sentry duty) and what the video mentioned: the velites were essentially privates. The older guys passed off the shit onto the 'kids' with much less demanding jobs

      @MrWarlord396@MrWarlord3967 жыл бұрын
    • It's also about discipline. Guard duty is about self-discipline because you have to stay alert and awake while tired and/or bored. Presumably the younger, less experienced troops need this discipline more. Veterans don't need to be told to remain alert because they've faced the consequences of not doing so. Also, Velites (and Equites) could be used for patrolling/scouting as they're fast and light, rather than garrison guard duty which I'd expect would be ideal for Hastati...?

      @GonzoTehGreat@GonzoTehGreat7 жыл бұрын
    • Would you like to explain that to the British army please so I can get some sleep before exercise

      @daniwalmsley611@daniwalmsley6117 жыл бұрын
  • "a load of angry romans going stabby stabby" 😂😂

    @jamesbearpark3794@jamesbearpark37947 жыл бұрын
    • James Bearpark as opposed to angry Greeks, who go slashy slashy slashy

      @ethanhatcher5533@ethanhatcher55336 жыл бұрын
    • alright sunshine, get back in there

      @evilsexyhamlet6399@evilsexyhamlet63995 жыл бұрын
  • I guess enitre ww2 italian army was composed of velites

    @maogenvivi@maogenvivi7 жыл бұрын
    • Z-Key same with the French

      @jeromevegona5024@jeromevegona50246 жыл бұрын
    • Lol

      @popcornfilms1@popcornfilms15 жыл бұрын
    • Jerome Vegona nah the French were Gallic levy freeman

      @CABOOSEBOB@CABOOSEBOB5 жыл бұрын
    • Zerg Rush!

      @bilbo_gamers6417@bilbo_gamers64175 жыл бұрын
    • You wankers need to grow up and learn some historical facts. Stick your mindless racism up your butts, which where your brains, what few may posses, resides!

      @khankrum1@khankrum15 жыл бұрын
  • We show up for the sweater and hair. But, we stay for the knowledge. Thanks Lindy!

    @anthonycontreras5003@anthonycontreras50037 жыл бұрын
  • Oh, Lindy, PLEASE release that 38 minute vid!

    @andrewgilchrist1816@andrewgilchrist18167 жыл бұрын
    • Yes! Please!

      @CraftQueenJr@CraftQueenJr5 жыл бұрын
  • we love your long videos loyd

    @Riot_Games_Support@Riot_Games_Support7 жыл бұрын
  • When I was in college I had several professors like Lindybeige and I admired their passion for teaching and learning

    @duncanbrave3465@duncanbrave34654 жыл бұрын
  • When Lloyd started a tangent about Latin pronounciation 2 minutes in, I think we all knew we were in for a good one.

    @vathek5958@vathek59587 жыл бұрын
  • Noone can ever speak too long about Roman military!

    @georgederuiter1412@georgederuiter14127 жыл бұрын
  • Already played Rome Total War, you know?! :P

    @Drumsgoon@Drumsgoon7 жыл бұрын
    • Rome 2 Total war sucks. The first part was the best

      @andrewkazakevich8611@andrewkazakevich86117 жыл бұрын
    • Lindybeige also played it, I guess this is where he got the information.

      @SNIperofDARKness02@SNIperofDARKness027 жыл бұрын
    • Андрей Казакевич divide et impera makes rome great again

      @YTPoljo@YTPoljo7 жыл бұрын
    • I like Total War Attila because the Western Romans get FUCKED... rip

      @joshanator21@joshanator217 жыл бұрын
    • Josh Phoenix Have you played Empire Total war or Napoleon Total war? Those are the best games I've ever played

      @andrewkazakevich8611@andrewkazakevich86117 жыл бұрын
  • Hi Lloyd! I'm so happy that you are interested in the second punic war. It happens to be that I come from the city formerly known as Qart-Hadasht and later on as Cartago Nova. Our ancient history connects us with both Carthage and Rome. Every year on the second half of september many people at home takes upon reenacting some of the important points (mainly the ones afecting our city) of the second punic war. Let me know if you'd like to come and visit the city during the festivites, as I'd be glad to arrange personaly for your welcome. Currently I live in London.

    @Mr.BuRGm4nn@Mr.BuRGm4nn7 жыл бұрын
    • Tunic. Willie taste snot muffin

      @isoperuna2@isoperuna24 жыл бұрын
    • @@isoperuna2 Beautifully put Puppude. Although I am afraid to say, I think i've missed your point.

      @pegleg2959@pegleg29593 жыл бұрын
    • Qart hadasht is carthage. Carthago nova is a different city in spain.

      @destruktor_7301@destruktor_7301 Жыл бұрын
    • @@destruktor_7301 Quart Hadasht is Punic (or Phoenician) for New Town. And just the same way the first founders of Carthage in what's today Tunisia, 𐤒𐤓𐤕𐤟𐤇𐤃𐤔𐤕 was used to name the new town in the Iberian peninsula. P.S: I come from the city in Spain

      @Mr.BuRGm4nn@Mr.BuRGm4nn Жыл бұрын
    • @@Mr.BuRGm4nn oh ok. Carthaginians were really creative i see. Thanks for correction!

      @destruktor_7301@destruktor_7301 Жыл бұрын
  • Man, I'm on a Lindybinge today. This is, at least, video 12 I've watched today. And probably 10 yesterday.

    @NorthernChev@NorthernChev5 жыл бұрын
  • A little correction - pronouncing the V as V is "church" latin, and V as W is classical, roman way!

    @Maaaarz@Maaaarz7 жыл бұрын
    • Evocati I didn't want to write it due to a high chance of typos ;D

      @Maaaarz@Maaaarz7 жыл бұрын
    • +Marz Spellcheck is your friend.

      @LordVader1094@LordVader10947 жыл бұрын
    • In german there is no difference between Veni Vidi Vici and Weni Widi Wici we'd pronounce it the same way.

      @Thoran666@Thoran6667 жыл бұрын
    • Thoran666 Yep. Also, the word Kaiser is closer to the latin pronunciation than the Italian and English pronunciations of Caesar.

      @angryyogbuscus1578@angryyogbuscus15787 жыл бұрын
    • +Thoran666 ...and in the actual "Romance"-language-speaking part of the world, people have messed with the letter "v", and made it into an altogether different sound than it was for their Roman forebears. So odd.

      @jamesgordley5000@jamesgordley50007 жыл бұрын
  • I don't think i've missed a single one of your videos. In fact, i would be upset if i had. By the nine you're great.

    @ArgonZavious@ArgonZavious7 жыл бұрын
    • You get a thumbs up for the expletive xD

      @talknight2@talknight27 жыл бұрын
    • Watch yo profanity

      @bartolomegaray368@bartolomegaray3687 жыл бұрын
    • Argon Zavious I heard the thalmor are looking for you... you filthy Talos worshiper!

      @scvtvm7914@scvtvm79147 жыл бұрын
    • sick boy Long live the empire! :D

      @scvtvm7914@scvtvm79147 жыл бұрын
  • Watched 2 of theese videos in a row, an hour passed, but felt like 5 mins, I love the Roman era.

    @Krend3r@Krend3r6 жыл бұрын
  • Love to see a channel that shares enthusiasm for Roman history. Please never refrain from giving us long videos in the future. Any content you have to share on Roman history in this format would be appreciated

    @evannesbitt7852@evannesbitt78525 жыл бұрын
  • "Biff baff biff baff biff!" - Nicholas Lloyd 2017

    @bretalvarez3097@bretalvarez30977 жыл бұрын
  • Wish I had a history like you in school, I'm amazed by your knowledge and ideas, keep it up.

    @jackson24241000@jackson242410007 жыл бұрын
    • Mark Williams you are allowed to read books and teach Yourself, and watch lindybeige.

      @darronjknight@darronjknight7 жыл бұрын
  • I love how informative your channel is, thank you for your work.

    @noXsTiLkKy@noXsTiLkKy7 жыл бұрын
  • Fascinating. I have just discovered your channel and can't stop watching your videos. Informative and funny. Nice one.

    @ronpeploe@ronpeploe6 жыл бұрын
  • I love the look you gave to the camera when you talked about the triarii preventing the fall back, what a boost for morale to those guys. I recall that on some phalanx formation the elderly formed also at the back with a similar use.I guess that preventing a rout is a high possibility regarding that they formed on a solid block that left no space between to flee.About the size of a centuria I have heard that the number were less than a hundred due to servants and auxiliary personnel were also counted in the unit size but not in the unit fight duties.

    @julesnestt@julesnestt7 жыл бұрын
  • i just whatched this and now its been ulpoaded again

    @necron1050@necron10507 жыл бұрын
    • necron 1050 I think there's a few seconds cut out?

      @Seamy18@Seamy187 жыл бұрын
    • no i genuinely watched all 30 mins and then went to my subscription feed and it poped up saying posted 1 second ago and to my surprise the oldest comment was about 30 seconds old

      @necron1050@necron10507 жыл бұрын
    • I think he may have cut a section where he was sidetracked while speaking about the sponsor :)

      @rosiello5100@rosiello51007 жыл бұрын
  • Been watching matty Easton for years and I'm glad I finally got over to your channel. Appreciate ypur time and your work. Thanks much

    @TheTorlock@TheTorlock6 жыл бұрын
  • I honestly consider it a perk of your videos. When you go on tangents its very interesting to see minor bits of a topic dissected in vivid detail.

    @theredblurb132@theredblurb1325 жыл бұрын
  • As always, thanks for the entertaining and inciteful video. Three questions: 1. What were the relative mortality rates among the velites, hastatis, and the pricipes? 2. When the velites fell back, where did they go? Through or around the formations behind them? Or? 3. Apparently the hastatis were not expected to prevail, but were they allowed to fall back? And if so, where did they go?

    @tomeubank3625@tomeubank36257 жыл бұрын
    • 1. Don´t think we have any data on that. 2. Behind the line, through the gaps in the checkerboard formation of the Hastati and Principes. 3. Again, through the lines (or well, the line, in this case) of the checkerboard formation.

      @hjorturerlend@hjorturerlend7 жыл бұрын
    • Tom Eubank I think i can answer the 3rd one. The romans had deliberately made gaps between units (cohorts?) so the in front troops could retreat. triple axies formation i believe it was called.

      @MrBonki123@MrBonki1237 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you both for your replies. In many portrayals of front-line combat, it seems as if everyone was always expected to fight to the death and retreat was a shameful capital offense.

      @tomeubank3625@tomeubank36257 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah, fleeing from a fight today would be called deserting.

      @MrBonki123@MrBonki1237 жыл бұрын
    • the whole concept of fighting to the death on the front line is foolish when their ways to swap out an tired front line with fresh troops

      @basilharpham9372@basilharpham93727 жыл бұрын
  • Dammit Lloyd! I had just gotten top comment! "I haven't even watched the video yet, but Lloyd is talking about the Roman Republic and I'm terribly excited about it!"

    @kevinoneal9779@kevinoneal97797 жыл бұрын
    • Upon recent discovery, the blame now falls onto "www.Audible.com".

      @kevinoneal9779@kevinoneal97797 жыл бұрын
  • Lindy I just wanna say that you make me very happy with all this talk and all your content on your channel, keep it up!

    @RonGaming09@RonGaming09 Жыл бұрын
  • I just pro-ordered your book, and just donated to your patreon. You're awesome Lloyd, by far my favorite KZheadr. Keep up the good work!

    @Irsupertacoman@Irsupertacoman7 жыл бұрын
  • Oh give it to me baby. Talk about it ALL.

    @mattmattigan5036@mattmattigan50367 жыл бұрын
  • Lindy: "Ladies and gentlemen, I like, if I may..." Me: "You may."

    @UVtec@UVtec7 жыл бұрын
  • I really enjoy your longer videos. You get so much more information across. Ramble on my friend. Ramble on.

    @matthawkins3584@matthawkins35847 жыл бұрын
  • I think you are absolutely correct that one of the roles of the triari was to prevent retreat. In the 18th and 19th centuries, officers were in the front leaving the unit into battle; the sergeants and corporals were in the rear acting as "file closers", i.e. making sure no one fell back without orders.

    @michaelhorning6014@michaelhorning601410 ай бұрын
  • That little glance of panic @ 6:12 where yet another thing about velites pops into your head (elephants!) and you twig there and then that the video was never going to be a short one :-) Great video, Lindy

    @fifthpint4571@fifthpint45717 жыл бұрын
  • This Video was AMAZING. why didn't I know of your channel earlier!!

    @4ngryGn0m3@4ngryGn0m37 жыл бұрын
    • Your mom ruined your life

      @isoperuna2@isoperuna24 жыл бұрын
  • Love Lindybeiges videos, even the usually boring sponsorship was great!!!

    @stevehodson4984@stevehodson49844 жыл бұрын
  • Personally I don't mind the longer videos or the 'rambling' at all, in fact I quite enjoy it because it always gives us more information and more to think about and it's also a sign of how dedicated you are to doing your research and transfering as much of your knowledge as possible; which I appreciate a lot. Your new video and audio recording equipment is a nice upgrade as well, I love seeing how much care and effort you keep pouring into these videos. Keep up the good work and I'm definitely looking forward to your book as well as future videos!

    @zeerob9516@zeerob95167 жыл бұрын
  • I must congratulate you on your marvellous sponsor plugs.

    @Pletzmutz@Pletzmutz7 жыл бұрын
  • Glad you said that about the Triarii. I've always seen diagrams of their formation and thought they seemed set up to 'motivate' the younger troops.

    @decam5329@decam53293 жыл бұрын
  • Great history! Great presentation! I really enjoy your site and I am passing it on to friends and family.

    @jimivey6462@jimivey64626 жыл бұрын
  • I love how you even manage to make the sponsored part of the video brilliant :D

    @ironhawk175@ironhawk1757 жыл бұрын
  • Never forget the 6 billion wolfes genocided by the Velites

    @RavenioTheHatamoto@RavenioTheHatamoto7 жыл бұрын
    • oy vey

      @erwinrommel144@erwinrommel1445 жыл бұрын
    • Maybe the Romans accomplished two things at once. Outfitted their Velites and controlled the local wolf populations.

      @winomaster@winomaster5 жыл бұрын
    • Genocide is for people exclusively. But I was thinking the same.

      @longwoolcoat2266@longwoolcoat22665 жыл бұрын
    • R.I.P.

      @Lycurgus1982@Lycurgus19825 жыл бұрын
    • I was just thinking about it and they all couldn't possibly be rocking wolf caps or pelts. Maybe only a few in the bunch so you can tell it was friendly troops. Or maybe they did just kill a ton of wolfs like humans have done with bears, leopards, beavers, otters, whales and etc.

      @otroflores91@otroflores915 жыл бұрын
  • "I'd like to, if i may..." You may!

    @Jenny-zu6nm@Jenny-zu6nm7 жыл бұрын
  • I love the humor sense of Lindye, is uncomparable, and i loved the last message as always

    @Mitaka.Kotsuka@Mitaka.Kotsuka5 жыл бұрын
  • Makes sense. You go to break and run look around and there's a bunch of more mature men eyeing you. Especially with the youngest soldiers it really does make sense. I just found your channel and I love it. Thanks a lot for the learning

    @rickyhurtt8692@rickyhurtt86924 жыл бұрын
  • There might be another purpose to the Triarii: Let's make an analogy with another physical job like construction. The thing about physical work is that, when you are young you are never tired and you feel indestructible. As you age, all that punishment you took over the years catches up to you. This is why you often see the older guys working a desk job when they are near retirement. What I'm getting at is that the Triarii is the desk job for old Roman soldiers. It shows the younger folks that the army core will not discard them when they are no longer at the peak of their physical performance and that the state will employ them and give them a cushy job to support them until they can retire. This does not mean that they are useless. Young folks always benefit from the wisdom of their elders. You can see this when a company lays off all the old employees. What they are left with is usually a big mess of people who do not know what they are doing.

    @gatovillano7009@gatovillano70094 жыл бұрын
    • No... their jobs were far from cushy

      @charliebowen5071@charliebowen50713 жыл бұрын
    • @@charliebowen5071 is it because you do not know how to form a rebuttal or that you do not have an argument? ''No ...'' is not an argument. You said nothing. The only proper answer to your comment is ''Yes...'' You see how we have accomplished nothing?

      @gatovillano7009@gatovillano70093 жыл бұрын
    • @Kanada Dry you schooled him. Nice

      @charliebowen5071@charliebowen50713 жыл бұрын
    • I would think of them as standers. They can't run away but they can absorb a charge with those spears or hold off heavy infantry assault with that armor. The velites and remnants of other lines could reform behind them and support them in the last ditch defense if things are going badly.

      @LTPottenger@LTPottengerАй бұрын
  • Run away! Run away! “Bravely ran the Velite, they bravely ran away.

    @irvinmartin9259@irvinmartin92595 жыл бұрын
  • I always enjoy your videos, thank you for the hard work.

    @danielc810@danielc8107 жыл бұрын
  • I never thought of the triarii as "get back in there, mate", but that's tremendous. And tremendously plausible.

    @SimuLord@SimuLord6 жыл бұрын
  • Why do you think we want short videos? We love long videos!!

    @TheAidiwashere@TheAidiwashere7 жыл бұрын
  • Hey Lindey, after you've published the graphic novel about the Romans, could you possibly make one about the Crusaders?

    @alasdeangel3929@alasdeangel39297 жыл бұрын
  • I love the way you explain it all, so entertaining. Thankyou

    @stuartwatts8033@stuartwatts80335 жыл бұрын
  • I love these vids cause its awesome to see speculation backed up by actual historical accounts and sound reasoning.

    @stephenboerner251@stephenboerner2515 жыл бұрын
  • What confuses me about the Roman three line system is that they rarely describe being outflanked by a wider frontage of the enemy which you'd expect if you put the same number of people in three lines instead of one. That should be a large shrinkage of front line to present to the enemy. Where did all the enemy troops go? Possibly the idea of reserves wasn't that foreign or they resolved it another way?

    @mangalores-x_x@mangalores-x_x7 жыл бұрын
    • Terrain is possibly the biggest contributor to winning or losing.

      @JoeyVol@JoeyVol4 жыл бұрын
    • Shrek porn

      @isoperuna2@isoperuna24 жыл бұрын
    • @@isoperuna2 words of wisdom

      @hannibalburgers477@hannibalburgers4772 жыл бұрын
    • They never account for shrinkage.

      @ladhominem1728@ladhominem17282 жыл бұрын
    • look at the battle of Watling street, romans tried to use terrain to keep enemies at bay as much as they used their gladius and scutum

      @juwebles4352@juwebles43522 жыл бұрын
  • Would like to see an ultimate warrior match....Velitas versus John Cleese with a pointed stick!

    @TheWhitehorseman1@TheWhitehorseman17 жыл бұрын
  • More Punic War related videos please! This was great!

    @lamorte42@lamorte427 жыл бұрын
  • The summary is brilliant!

    @emarsk77@emarsk777 жыл бұрын
  • Wow, this could have been broken into 6 videos, that of the 5 unit types and the arrangement of them. Though I do quite like the video being all in one piece.

    @micahphilson@micahphilson7 жыл бұрын
  • I already know a lot of this, but he's so immensely entertaining I just have to watch anyway. It's sort of like "Monty Python and Military History".

    @johnmeyer2072@johnmeyer20723 жыл бұрын
  • I love your videos, sir, and even enjoy your commercials. Coming from me, that's a great compliment.

    @iNowHateAtSigns@iNowHateAtSigns5 жыл бұрын
  • Lindy, I keep getting lost in the pattern of your sweater. It's absolutely mesmerizing.

    @TrickMyWarthog@TrickMyWarthog7 жыл бұрын
  • Allllrright !! Form a screen!!! OK now, everybody at once !!!! ENHANCE!!!

    @charleswood4635@charleswood46357 жыл бұрын
    • Wait a minute!! That's not amok, you call that AMOK ??!!! A little more amok on the rt plz!!! OK, now!! ENHANCE !!!!!!!

      @charleswood4635@charleswood46357 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks Lindy, i always thought the plural of gladius was gladioli!

    @adolthitler@adolthitler5 жыл бұрын
    • .. Wot...?

      @mattaffenit9898@mattaffenit98985 жыл бұрын
  • You made me fall in love with the Flashman series lol. Thank you!. My favorite is “Flashman at the charge”. (Charge of the Light Brigade)

    @zackingtut@zackingtut Жыл бұрын
  • Thank you Lloyd for the free book. I've just got "The History of Ancient Rome" by The Great Courses. Cheers!

    @SwiggityStag@SwiggityStag6 жыл бұрын
  • Ah, to be back in the day, when a 38 minute lindybeige video was considered too long

    @brianholmes1812@brianholmes18123 жыл бұрын
  • Actually, pronouncing "velites" as "welites" is the correct classical pronunciation. True, the Romans had no W, but technically they also had no V, because V and U were identical in their orthography. Thus, the "w" sound.

    @danukil7703@danukil77037 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah, when I started learning Latin I expected a lot of "v" sounds and when I started I realized Latin sounded nothing like what I thought

      @granth.1919@granth.19195 жыл бұрын
  • Evening Nikolas, I've been following your videos for quite some time. Especially when you visited Malta! You seemed very intrigued by its past roles Malta played in History. There are many "Military time-periods" which can be an interesting topic both for yourself & the audience. An example being the year '1565 - The Great Siege of Malta". You're top rank when it comes to explaining subjects. Have a look at us when you got time. Thanks for your time mate

    @jordansaliba@jordansaliba7 жыл бұрын
  • More videos of this length please!!

    @leeinnes7127@leeinnes71277 жыл бұрын
  • "alies" => tactical meat shield? :-)

    @vladimirhodan7360@vladimirhodan73605 жыл бұрын
  • Not even 2 minutes in and you've already talked about latin pronounciation of certain vowels. I feel like you're not very good at talking about very specific things, Lloyd.

    @alnoso@alnoso7 жыл бұрын
    • He's not complaining, he's just having a cheeky jab at Lloyd's digressions that he tries so hard to avoid.

      @TCproducitons@TCproducitons7 жыл бұрын
    • alnoso well that's why we watch him! A simple discussion becomes a 10 minute long video!

      @havememesgonetoofar64@havememesgonetoofar647 жыл бұрын
    • please don't discourage him! i relish the minutes spent on topics not directly related to the topic of the video!

      @VoodaGod@VoodaGod7 жыл бұрын
  • Real clever with the way you put your sponsors in. Cant really skip em because they are right in the middle of your videos.

    @efafe4972@efafe49727 жыл бұрын
  • I wouldn't have minded for that longer video. Gotta love your style, Lloyd! Edit: That kneeling position... In FDF we called it high kneeling, commonly used and can be held for quite a long time, once you learn it. With grieves I've no idea, but I would suspect that once you learn how to, there's nothing to it.

    @tapioperala3010@tapioperala30107 жыл бұрын
  • @ 19:36 That sounds more plausible than you realize: Arabs "adopted" a similar tactic, though the line in the rear was usually composed of women--the wives and mothers of the soldiers in questions. They were armed with tent-poles, used to beat the tar out of the soldiers if they ran (usually accompanied with threats of being deprived of their women's pleasure). The women were surprisingly effective. Anyways: the main concern was likely that they were the reserve--much as the Imperial guard were centuries later in Napoleonic times. The spear is in this context an effective shock weapon (not unlike an over-armored hoplite), which coupled with the rest of the kit made them the hardest-hitting units in the Roman army. That's likely why the commander of the first Century of the first Cohort in imperial times would be called a "primus pilus" (another word for Triarii was Pilani).

    @Albukhshi@Albukhshi7 жыл бұрын
  • What about Roman siege equipment like the ballistae? Were they special units or acted like modern artillery, packaged out to different units

    @nicktrains2234@nicktrains22345 жыл бұрын
    • mae brinkyrae wiff fae was avicii xxvi

      @isoperuna2@isoperuna24 жыл бұрын
    • @@isoperuna2fuk u >:o

      @mardukgilgamesh1500@mardukgilgamesh15004 жыл бұрын
    • It depended on the size of the ballistae. I think I am right in saying there was a small 2 man ballista added to the units and the larger artillery pieces tended to be more static.

      @andrewharper1609@andrewharper16094 жыл бұрын
  • I attended a naval military camp for a few summers in high school and I found a flashman novel in the library of that place and I have never since heard any reference to the series but I liked the novel so much I, uh, sorta took the book and never gave it back, really brings back memories to hear mention of it again!

    @Whobgobblin@Whobgobblin5 жыл бұрын
  • 19:00 ish, love it Lloyd, very good, very good indeed sir :) been watching you all day, having found you by the internet's seven degrees of separation. Great service you are doing, keep it up and thank you :) Bruce.

    @bmartin7961@bmartin79614 жыл бұрын
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