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kind of ingenious. I never understood why Zippo never sold/made something like this standard
Many people have asked that over the years but they just have no need to make the zippo better, the same design has been around since 1932 with only minor changes I would love to see the classic zippo design stay the same BUT I wish they had a factory version similar to this with a sealed bottom of the insert and a fill area with a screw and o-ring to keep it sealed maybe sold as a special version or something they can make a KILLING if they did that even if they were $50 each they would sell...Even at $100 each plenty of collectors and some users would still buy one, haha
cutlerylover I would buy one just for the functionality. I am by no means a collector of zippos(I have a handful), but I personally prefer them over other lighters. Whether it’s the heritage, the ability to service them, or just the sound I love it! Hell, I’m not even a smoker besides the one or two cigars a month.
@@Johnny2Gats Many reasons to enjoy a Zippo )
Cause it's not original
Its not original and also it kinda forces you to buy/use more fluid.
How do you tell someone is a zippo lighter user? They smell like gas and are asking you for a light
I have learned to always carry a backup bic if my zippo lets me down...
lol ,veteran zippo user will have spare plastic lighter
I have a keychain canister for some quick recharge. If you use your Zippo correctly(meaning not playing with it constantly), one fill will last you a week. Plus the little canister where you have 3/4 of a full recharge, people are asking ME for a light. For ten long ass years i have been a reliable source of ignition. Zippo all the way. PS. WAAAAAY too much fluid in the video...
@@Juniek100 tooo much liquid Forsure, supposed to wait for it to drip down the wick then stop. Dude prolly smells like fluid all day every day😂 I keep mine with about half the amount of that and don’t even smoke..vape now but still love my zippo.. and I don’t smell like smoke or gas cuz I don’t act like this guy😂
@@Juniek100but playing with it constantly is just too fun :(
I'm glad they have aftermarket accessories for Zippos yet they keep their originality and let the customer decide what they want. I love their simplicity and durability. Tip: you can keep flints under the felt pad as well 😉👍
better still keep the flint there but if you have one of those tiny aftershave sample bottles , you can keep some extra fuel in there too :)
Two things: You're WAY overfilling your Zippo. You need to stop before you see saturation in the cotton. If you do this and have it in your pocket, it will leak and leave you with a rash on your leg. I would guess you're supposed to remove the felt pad at the bottom and replace it with the gasket. By packing it on top of the felt, you're squeezing the cotton below and essentially wringing it out, making the lighter hold less fluid.
i always filled my zippo till it ran out the wick not a big deal just light the lighter to burn off the excess I never had a rash from the fluid
I figured that when I saw the fill hole.
At the 5 minutes marks he also states he overfilled them. I believe he did it on purpose to prove the point of "Does the gasket hold the fluid "
Jeff Khoury want me to hold your purse
Jeff Khoury What do you mean by saturation in the cotton?
That's a comically large amount of lighter fluid.
especially for it just to evaporate
"ThE mOrE tHe MaRrIeR"
@@dozi3r that's why he's showing the product id say (evaporation )
that's how you fill a Zippo lol you're supposed to saturate the rayon so it lasts longer....
@@gunfuegosaturate, not drown.
Nice experiment, I can't wait to see the results!
When I smoked I loved Zippos! biggest problem for me with leakage in my pocket I would smell like lighter fluid and my leg would get a rash.
@yan chang lol yup
I've never had a problem with leakage.
*Zippo Butane Gas Lighter/ Zippo Arc Lighter = NO PROBLEM*
Jason Abbott just put less lighter fluid if the cotton looks wet then you put to much
Probably because u over filled
hey cutlery I'm an old fan from like 7 years ago I used to love your Zippo videos, thanks for making vids and congrats on the sub count
I bet there will still be a small amount of evaporation through the wick end
Dood Bro it’s not meant to stop it completely, just prolong the process versus having no seal plate at all.
There was a guy who used old used bicycle intertubes for this to make a tight seal around the entire case when not in use. Im guessing the bottom plate leaks a bit due to the door it needed a screw in plug and as for sealing the whole thing well they aint like the peanut lighters and so they actually need an airproof case to fit around them ideally
Yes, even a 1920s style oil lamp will run dry just through evaporation from the wick alone within maybe a month.
@@edi9892 yep your right thats why alot of peanut lighters encapsulate the entire thing air tight. Due the tiny bit they can hold is what they intend to keep till ya use it. you can get sevral short burns out of one fill however its not an ideal lighter for most people. Its an emergency lighter that works in cold conditions where a bic won't work without a few tricks to heat it up due to the nature of liquid butane speaking of encapsulated lighters they got a forever match that works on the same idea . zippo is cool for those who use a lighter alot tough some people dont like the fuel taste everything has its highs and lows a propper sized elastic band around the seam of the zippo is the best your gona do for a classic Zippo unless you do the butane retrofit
Probably
Ya I carry one in my edc bag and same story every time I needed it was dry. So I bought a butane insert and never looked back
I like this video and it's very interesting . Where the evaporation of the fuel occurs is the seam where the lid meets the body . Common bicycle inner tube works GREAT and Ronsinol fluid is superior to Zippo fluid . An eye dropper bottle holds enough fluid for at least 4 refills . Old Army Ranger . ATB
My old man always kept an extra flint in the spring area.
Jeff, along time ago, you reviewed the plasmatic zippo style. Which instantly caused me to purchase one so i could use the insert in my zippo. At the time i was just getting into collecting, and i have an okay collection now. mainly of rare numbered ones. but the zippo i used this in was my grandads harley zippo, i believe from the 70s, i cant quite remember. This is because it was stolen along with the insert. My grandad now has dementia, and can just about remember me, but i always make sure to bring zippos to show him. and i was wondering if you still had the plasmatic insert, and if youd be willing to sell it as he always found it interesting, and he was the first person i showed it to too. so im hoping it might spark some memory, alike the zippos do. Thank you - Long time subscriber Corey
Some fuel will still escape from the wick end but they do decrease fuel evaporation so you will be able to go a little longer between refuelings. Love your channel bro.
Just what I was thinking.
I'm also excited to see the results!
True story: while in the Navy as a flightline crew, one guy was bragging on his new Zippo. After a week came time to refill we all told him the JP-5 we took from the planes for fuel samples was a great replacement. He left it in the lineshack and we filled it everyday without him knowing. For several weeks. After he finally commented it seemed to never run out and how happy he was, we started emptying it especially if he refilled it. For him it never worked got so pissed he gave it away. 🤭
I had a buddy that did the same thing to a coworkers car
Do you still have the diamond super tank? Would be interested to see how it holds up in comparison to those aswell.
I have multiple flints and a extra wick inside my zippo. Nice product.
Ive used the ranger band method and it held for a month but for an everyday use option this seems as a better option
Oh. Nice to know I'm not the only one who has evaporation problems. I never even thought to look into it until this showed up in my Recommendations.
I carry Zippo lighters, despite having quit smoking (except while drinking beer on Fridays) a few years back. I keep a regular Zippo insert with extra flint and a can of fluid in the house and all my vehicles, travel and camping bags, and so on for backup, but switched to butane torch-style inserts for general use, mostly because of fuel evaporation. Interesting...
😱 You mean I might actually be able to use the Zippo as an everyday lighter? I love mine, except for the fact that I fill it up and it’s out of fuel within a day, regardless of whether I even use it.
This is a great thing, if it does work. There is also a butaine insert I have found online, that fits in the zippo casing, that I got and use. The butaine does last quite a long time too. If this gasket does work, I may switch back to the lighter fluid insert. Thanks for this video.
It usually just evaporates in a tropical climate, fully saturated (some pouring out upon refill at the bottom, even) in just 4 days. I wish Zippo would fix this almost 100 year evaporation problem and update their design. I had to buy a pack of these 3 gaskets which has Zorro cotton + wick + 30 flints bundled (I something just like to make this spark for stress relieve- light or spark or fire is soothing). God bless.
I love the concept. Ill have try the gasket with with a ranger band. Itll probably still evaporare but take a lot longer.
is there an update vid on how well that gasket performed? please leave me the link thx
Great idea. I would try one on my Zippo Pipe Lighter
hi curt hey could you do another video on how this worked..?? i have zippo lighters and i love them i don't smoke cigarettes so i don't use them often or hardly at all but i would really like to see if this works..???
So what was the outcome with these things? I don't smoke, but have Zippos and they just don't work for me because they dry up. I'm considering the new blue flame inserts but would also like to keep one as a soft flame lighter. Did the gasket work for a long period of time?
I use a Zippo daily and it works well for it's intended purpose. Evaporation is a issue for those that don't actually smoke. Granted the Zippo is a high maintenance device needing refueling every other day, wick pulled about 2 weeks and wick replaced 1.5 months. Lighting requires an up/down motion because of the nature of fuel/gas. A plug/gasket will lessen the flame to the point of not being wind proof. More complication makes for more issues down the road. Simply put the Zippo is a good lighter for it's intended purpose.
Is plastic piece a replacement for top felt pad, or added too felt pad as you did? Resulting in tight fit. Maybe exact fit replacing pad rather than adding too it?
Great video, thanks for sharing this, if it works I'll definitely buy one of these
cool!! how come no one has thought of this before also the since word you were looking for is control .
Donde venden ese plástico protector buen video grasias 👍🏼
Cool. My spring tip is a little worn out, not that worn out (I thought that was the flint), is this ok?
is there a product like this for the top part of the lighter? I feel like as much or more fluid is evaporating off the wick and through the seem.
Great video thanks for sharing but I would never tighten with a screwdriver finger tighten only those threads will strip out.
Agree. Also, use the case or lid if you must.
Hey, your cotton top piece seems like it sits lower than all my zippos. Should I take the cloth piece you usually lift to fill OFF before adding this? Seems like that would help you refuel easier with this plastic piece in, too.
Really looking forward to this working.
Cool little gizmo. I replaced both of my zippo inserts with single and double flame butane inserts.
That's an interesting experiment and possible solution. I am wondering how much fuel/air transfer happens through the wick and the lid, and why Zippo has never corrected the problem (because they sell the fuel?),
05generic there probably is no fix. Other than their new butane insert
I love it! I'll definitely be ordering some of those!
YES I thought it, we've all thought it but someone finally did it.
Interesting little tidbit, the 1935 zippo replicas use a slightly different insert, both aesthetically and in size, I tried putting one of those thunderbird butane inserts in mine and it's just a smidge too tall, same with a regular zippo insert.
Gotta zippo. Haven't had any problems. Thought about getting the gasket. But I mean it's gunna evaporate, the fuel isn't expensive, and my lighter always clicks over for me. It seems like a nice idea, but I feel zippo did a great job as is.
Nice test one of the reasons I don't have any Zippos
Definitely let us know if it works. I really wanna carry a zippo with my edc. If the gasket doesn’t work then I may try that Thunderbird insert. Have you reviewed the Thunderbird insert?
He has some older videos on them I believe. The fuel in those lasts indefinitely and i think is a much-needed upgrade. My Zippo keeps fuel for months until it runs out from me playing with it, haha.
I don't have Thunderbird brand but I use a double jet in an Armor series case for edc and its been excellent. They don't always fit perfectly depending on brand and quality but they're reliable and don't run out I got a monogrammed slim series at my best friends wedding and I'd kill for a gasket or an insert for it
Darth Croll Ok, thanks for letting me know. I saw nick shabazz’ review on the Thunderbird insert, but I’ll watch his video as well.
Josh Rowlison It’s butane fueled?
Can't wait for the results.
Though it's a neat idea, I don't have high hopes for it. It may reduce the rate at which the fluid evaporates by sealing up the bottom, but the fluid will still evaporate through the wick. In fact, I'd say most lf the evaporation happens through the wick. The fuel might last longer, but I'm not counting on the difference being large enough to be worth the purchase.
The best thing I've found for my Zippo lighter was a butane insert. I hate the taste of lighter fluid and this butane insert solves that. Got mine on Amazon
Practical , but takes away the originality of the zippo feel , fueling up , changing flints is all part of the zippo experience :)
Excited to see what happens!!
That's neat I'd like to see how long it lasts too since i don't smoke
I never really had an issue with the evaporation. I carry a Zippo as my main lighter and use it for most things I need a lighter for and I carry a Bic as a backup in case my Zippo runs dry or to let other people use it in case they either don't like the smell of a Zippo or they decide to walk off with my lighter.
I think a gaskets would be the standard for this type of Zippo if they just had a bigger hole, like as big as possible so it takes the least amount of time to fill. In fact they could just remove that flint hole since you can already put flint in the cotton. But the price is certainly right, you get a few for around $6 or more.
@cutlerylover So what was the result? Is it any good?
That is one practical little gizmo, gonna order a few
I've never had a problem with the fuel in my older zippos I've had in the past evaporating. It's only been a couple of newer ones I've received as gifts that have been doing that.
I stash my extra flints under the felt pad I’m curious too good idea I always thought zippos lost vapor through the lid cause the lids aren’t air tight
i was thinking of making one myself but yeah i knew eventually they would start making those somewhere lol but the rubber needs to be lighter fluid resistant and not melt or react with it like many plastics that ppl use to seal them
did you ever make the update to this? how did it turn out?
these are sold on ebay as "kerosene lighter gasket" for 3-4 $ btw can you insead weight the 2 zippos with a precision scale? it would give more accurate results
Mustang Rt I like that idea
$3.99 plus $3.21 shipping for one on fleabay. Ya better off getting 3 on amazon for $8.89
But my Zippo is made in China cost me 4.50
@@user-neo71665 aliexpress about 2 dollars lomg ass shipping time tho
Swear nobody knows how many things are dropshipped🤦♀️
So what was the result? I'm interested as I bought these gaskets also.
It looks like he ultimately used different Zippos in test, but here is a follow up: kzhead.info/sun/d8qFqJaIi5uBZWw/bejne.html
In my experience, after completely filling a Zippo with fluid, it takes about a week for the fluid to completely evaporate. This is if you just let the lighter sit there with absolutely no usage. My Zippo now has a Zippo branded butane insert that doesn't allow fluid evaporation.
I use a piece of bicycle inner-tube around where the lid and body meet works great.
So how did it work out?? Where's the update vid??
These things really works great!
I stick the nossle into tnt hole of the pad and fill mine that way. It's easier than lifting it to me. I'm just happy that I finally got to use mine after roughly 4 months
Have they got something similar for the zippo handwarmers???
An innovative idea but the band around the two sections is the answer. It might be a good test to add that option into your experiment.
Not seeing a follow up video for this. Did it work or what?
Did you ever end up giving us an update on these?
Do you not need a toop seal like in a imco triplex .??
Helps but minimally, i have those old ronson lighters which are like to wick out fuel too quickly and can catch the whole lighter on fire. Im guessing being sealed creates pressure which can make it wick out too quickly. But the fuel still evaporates out the wick mine have gasketed screws on the fill ports so only one way to evaporate
Pretty nifty like someone said before there will prolly be some evaporation but hopefully it'll be a lot better! Like you I don't smoke but I'll use for bbq, candles n such and it is pretty annoying for the fuel to be completely gone within like a week
Subbed. I periodically buy myself a zippo and even gave one away in the box to a good friend as a bday gift (everyone loves them, makes a great gift) so anyway, in my collection, I have old ones, new ones etc the new ones have that little hole in the bottom of the cotton that old ones didn't have and I know from experience that little hole contributes to fuel evaporation, all my new ones run out faster (when not using)
Just got mine today. Haven't had time to see fuel consumption comparison. However, did find that in a Zippo insert, it's a tight fit. It will fit in a Japan Continental/LDL model, not as tight of fit due to more rounded style but will seal enough to keep fluid from going to the bottom of the case. For those with that question.
any update?
Not bad, but better create a gasket for the parts above. Much fuel seems imho evaporate over the wick anyways so the lid is more important but of course much more difficult. Still a nice idea though, especially the flint storage.
Have you done a long term update for this gasket?
You sound like Devin Stack from the channel Black Pilled.
Same wick in mine for the last 30 years and it works fine.
I just bought a brand new Zippo in the last year or so and I've been pretty disappointed how shoddy they're making the insides now. The cotton batting used to FILL UP the tank to the point that the absorbent end-pad just barely fit back in. Now there's a solid quarter inch of extra space at the end... this video just educated me as to why. Apparently Zippo is manufacturing their lighter to take this evapo-trapper device without making it such a tight fit.
Makes me wonder why they don't just create it themselves... They'd probably sell a lot more lighters lol.
@@Camelotsmoon Because Zippo wants you using more fuel. I bet Zippo makes more money on fuel than lighters.
You Can Also zeal the case with a piece of rubber from a bicycle, it keeps most air from leaking into the case.
I use both. Zippos last about a week and a half. Still sucks. I just bought a gallon of white gas and fill it up every week.
But does it work because evaporation will still take place through the wick?
I have a Douglas field lighter which solved this and has a spare sealed container of fuel built in. Check it out, you can let it sit for years and get it started right away
They make some really cool zippo logo plastic flames that fit right where the wick goes.
Will it fit the slim long zipped?
That's pretty kool, if it actually shows significant lack of fuel evaporation I might have to get some
Offhand this seems like a good idea, there's nothing wrong with trying to make the most out of your fuel. I've come at this problem from another angle, I use inexpensive naptha gas in my Zippo, I bought a gallon of Brand X camp stove fuel years ago for about 10 bucks and I'm still using that same gallon, so fuel economy isn't an issue, cost-wise, but there's still nothing wrong with trying to maximize your fuel economy.
So how long did it last? If you want send me one I edc my zippo everyday smoker lmk. That way it's really street tested.
Wouldn't this replace the felt?
I always carry my Zippo but hate that the evaporating naphtha irritated my skin and had to refill after a couple of weeks. I bought a Butane insert for the Zippo case and now can carry it for months with no irritation and no loss of fuel. The butane insert always lights.
I, too, have been frustrated w/the fuel evap. I don't smoke so even though edc it's not for that purpose. That said, I don't have occasions to use it much but still carry it in a great leather belt holder. By using a ranger band I can extend the time to empty by about half. The test I would love to see you do is fill both and never use. Just test it every (name a day of the week) week and see how many weeks you can go before dry. Test would be to just see if it ignites. Don't need the 60 second burn for my purposes (or yours) as you stated you don't use it everyday anyway so i assume you don't smoke and light up 10 or more times a day. To truly test for the evaporation aspect....I think you should only light it to see if it will light. If you keep it going for 60 sec. it kind of defeats the purpose of an evap. test? Thanks! and I agree the extra spot for the flint is great.
I think it may slow the evaporation of the fuel, but the wick still allows vapors to escape. However, it may very well be an improvement!
Most of the fuel is lost through the wick anyway. Bottom is actualy sealed quite well as it is, you even hear the "pop" when you pull it out. So i call BS, this gadget will not help at all.
I've once wrapped the zippo with electrical tape around the hinge and seam where it opens. and i was able to light it after several months when i unwrapped it. But most of the fuel was gone anyway. I beleive if you can find zippo-style lighter which has screw-on cap with o-ring, it will work for much longer time, but it will be awkward to use.
@@harviecz older zippos don’t have that *pop* as they are worn down, so they’d leak more from the bottom than a brand new one
Wonderful idea hope it works
Wrapping a bit of Teflon tape around the end of the lighter (the side with the cotton) works great for me
I hope this works because i work outside and tye heat evaporates my zippo faster than usual
So how much longer did it last with the insert
Best. Video. Ever. I've never smoked, but have always loved Zippo lighters. I stopped carrying them when one leaked fuel inside my pocket and onto my thigh, giving me a nice chemical burn. If this thing can keep the fuel in, then yee ha!!
overfilled :)
They got these for zippo slim?
Yo, you're supposed to take the felt pad out and discard it. That's why you had to force the orange rubber plug in. The way he did it the fluid won't absorb as well. The flint hold down screw was not seated properly. I'm surprised no one caught that.
Yeah, I was wondering why he left the felt pad in. It had looked like he may have punches a hole through it or something.