4MATIC Vs xDrive Vs Quattro 4X4 System - Mercedes Benz / BMW / Audi
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4MATIC Vs xDrive Vs Quattro 4X4 System - Mercedes Benz / BMW / Audi
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Was not expecting to watch 3 ads disguised as an informational video.
The quattro shown here, is quattro Ultra Drive, which is made for better fuel consumption on some models. The quattro system in the performance cars are different. For example, cars with transversely mounted engines (hatchbacks and TT) use the Haldex variant, which is FWD biased until needed, the performance cars like RS4,5,6,7 and S variants use Torsen quattro, and is permanent, 60 rear, 40 front when just driving. The R8 system is it's own as well, which is 85 rear, and 15 front.
what about the As
Incorrect info in that comment. I don't have time to go over all these systems to correct the errors.
на самом деле у А5-а6-а7-а8, на скорости квадро передает 95% назад, и 5% вперед,и только при старте или случае скользкой дороги 60 сзади, 40 спереди.
i’m a merc fanboy but when it comes to all wheel drive i’d take an audi quattro any day
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yeah bro! you won’t regret that!
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Why? Do you live outside civilization? You have dirt road?
I researched for 7 months before buying my Audi. It’s the best awd on the market. It’s gotten me through some extreme snow situations over the past couple years. 8+ inches up steep roads. I swear by the Quattro system. And I don’t think I’ll ever buy anything other than Audi.
Yeah man, I also was researching a lot, before I made a choice with old 1996 a4 audi with torsen, and now it really meets my needs all year round, all weather conditions. Some say that this is quite tricky car. Sometimes it breaks down, but I love it.
I own bmw xdrive car, that s perfectly fine in muddy conditions. Fuel consumptions are greats too
you should try Subaru. And none of those Q models are even near G class, Toyota FJ Cruiser and 4Runner or Mitsubishi Pajero Dakar edition.
@@am-mm2sl попробуй ауди - крупный седан(A4-A5-A6-A7-A8), там совсем другая квадро, 200км\ч по ледяной трассе, на не шипованной резине- легко- и все это с частыми обгонами и перестроениями. Хоть я и бмвист, но полный привод у ауди божественный!
right because your favoritism was clearly not visible there...
I just gotten more informed than I was yesterday. Thank you for this video.
Even under the same brand name, not all systems are created equal. MB actually has 5 different kinds of 4matic. The video only depicted their compact car 4matic system, which is FWD biased. For full size cars and SUVs (C class and up) the basic system distributes power 50/50 front to rear (eg. GLE 350), and the higher end system can distribute up to 100% to either axel (eg. GLE 450). Then there are the Performance 4matic (eg. C43) and 4matic+ systems (eg. E63) on the AMG tuned cars.
I have a 4matic 2008 S550. Drove at 80mph in snow storm. Awesome handling 👍🏻
Damn that’s really fast on the snow 😅
With xdrive i drive 140 without problems on snow 😅😅
@@chrisibrandstetter LOLOLOL
@@chrisibrandstetter yeah sire...but the eay was clean...was snow only on the mountain i think...always its someone like you that make the difference thank you because you born
Audi Quattro 💪
I see how this is working, what ever manufacture you own is the best.
So none of these hahaha
@RockaBilly Their torsen diff'd 4wd system is better than the haldex system, but not as good as the old torsend ssytem with the 3 diffs
No.. Acura SH-awd is better... Instaed of using the "Brakes" to drag your inside wheels around corners.. They use planetary gears on each rear wheel to PUSH the car's outer wheels faster---- much better design. Instead of dragging brakes, its pushing you around the corner. Fundamentally superior design.
I have a 2006 Audi A4 2.0T Quattro with 6sp Tiptronic, from what I understand, this application of Quattro uses Torsen differentials, not sure if it uses them on front / centre / rear differential, but from the video showing the cutaway Quattro front differential you can see that it is an open differential. Every application and generation of the powertrains are different, but from what I've seen, Quattro does perform extremely well in snow conditions. Cant speak on the others, but I see alot of electronically controlled clutches. Service on any of the systems shown will most likely be abysmal for those working on it and those paying for it. The ABS system on the Quattro is a really key component as with any of these for torque vectoring both on braking and on acceleration conditions at the wheels. General conclusion: get out and drive, and dont skip on maintenance steps, even if the manufacturer says it's a "non-serviceable" fluid -___-
Torsen is only at center, front and rear are open.
Yep... Torsen doesn't need milliseconds to work out where it needs power. It's not synthetic - it's natural!
I saw a video of Quattro not figuring out how to get up a hill and the xdrive left it in its dust...bmw for the win
@@Wicked_RotF30 probably there was a low power engine, unless powerful engine quattro does not reveal it's capabilities
Audi Quatro 💓💓
audi have 60front 40rear= haldex
Only A1, A3, Q2, Q3 have haldex. Current haldex gen has 100%/0% up to 50%/50%. What you say is only true for old gen haldex before 2011.
Quattro*
babylon4953 big difference .....
DerbiReising Audi S4 B7 60:40 R:F via Torsen also B8 body via Torsen without Haldex.
The Audi one as shown here, is not the torsen quattro, it's the Haldex system which can shut down the rear axle completely if not needed, in fact Haldex in the Audi's is a fwd bios awd system, on the other hand traditional Torsen quattro sends %60 power to the rear wheels and %40 to the front wheels all the time, it can send up to %70 to the front and %85 to the rear if needed. For the record, A1, S1, Q3, A3, S3 and RS3 all use Haldex awd system, A4 and all the upper models use torsen Quattro.
Yağız Toprak OKUMUŞ It is actually the new quattro Ultra system, which is comparable to x-drive and 4matic in how it works.
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and RS4 and up have 70% power to the rear to give it more sporty feel like xDrive and 4matic.
Audi!!!- Quattro!!!
I have a W212 E350 cdi 4matic and it is absolutely stunning in snow! I can't compare with others...
To sum this video up. Pointing at things makes for design.
Time stamps 00:13 mercedes benz 02:49 audi 05:49 BMW
Audi
A U D I ! 😘😗😙😚
good information for beginners ...thanks for sharing....keep updating new engines.
merc has the best marketing team they did a dreamy spot
Usually BMW has the best ads 🙄
@@BorisGen Look at all the comments, clearly when it comes to AWD systems Audi's marketing department is light years ahead of everyone else. Everybody thinks quattro is a gift from God even though it's basically the same thing everyone else is doing (especially since Audi doesn't even make their own transmissions or diffs, they buy them from the same places as everyone else ie ZF, Torsen, Haldex etc).
Germany always king of engineering....! respect for Germany
You missed Simmetrycal AWD Subaru , All Trac Toyota, Honda Legend, Terrain Response Land Rover, Mitsubishi, Jeep...
@@juanete69 and lada?
All 3 males are German!??
In my country ,we’d call it “GERMAN MACHINE “
Audi Quattro! BEST! No explanations required. Its self explanatory! as shown in the video
subaru: hold my steering wheel
Draggy654 I've got a rs4 b7 and the quattro is amazing especially in winter I never had any problems but I have to say, that Subaru's awd is the only system that's better.
@RockaBilly Audi +Subaru=🌨️🌨️🌨️🌨️ bro................ 💪
Audi/Mercedes Benz/BMW = Germany ☺️☺️ Germany built the best car and Bus truck , diesel engine.
poor english
As a German auto Tech, No one can touch Audis Quattro system
In what term? Driving? Reliability?
xdrive is the best
Yeah. Right. 😂
Thank you sir
Do you happen work for audi good sir? 😂
Audi's legendary Quattro system created by legends
The best solution would be united all three systems!That would be a MASAKER😀 ps i have Audi
On the Audis, not all models can be front-wheel only when all-wheel drive isn't required. Only the smaller models or the Ultra variants have this feature. A lot of the other (larger) models are perm all-wheel drive.
Perm AWD is actually an advantage of quattro
BMW xDrive with the dynamic handling package (torque vectoring and four wheel steering) you couldn't go wrong.
Absolutely. BMW is far superior.
Audi Mercedes and BMW all three legend of auto engneering
sorry but i think toyota is the legend of auto
Boukhris Djilali Mohammed no way
Sanjeet Patle Lexus
O Trio Alemão é simplesmente sensacional.
As a Mercedes tech I have to point out that the 4Matic system shown in the video is for front wheel drive only. It’s much different for the rest of the fleet that are primarily rear wheel drive.
Interesting. I know in the real world my Quattro in the snow is way better than my ML with 4matic. Audi feels like it’s on dry pavement in comparison. Maybe that’s a bad thing because it gives you a lot of confidence. Haha
@@Lonnie91aYour tires play a large role in that
4 me AUDI is the best 😎👍
I drove an audi quattro a5 for the 10 years and loved it but just switched to 5 series xdrive. It might just be generational difference or the chasis rather than the drive system but as a package, the 5 series is way better when cornering at speed.
Did your Audi have the sport differential option? I went from a 2008 A4 to a 2016 S5 with the sport differential and it definitely made a difference when cornering at speed. With that being said though I really don't have much experience with xdrive so it could just be better as well.
Then you must stay in the sideway position to be able to go anywhere
Salute to those engineer and worker how they put too much hard work and they make for us calmful nice car
Quattro lovers ,like here....🥰🔥
not a real quattro, thats not torsen in the video
Now that's some quality compilation....
Audi Quattro 💪💪😍😍
Haldex and this 4matic is awful, give me a proper 4wd torsen diff any day of the week. For sporting driving you want it to send more power to the rear as per the ayc in an evo.
4Matic sends 66% of the torque to the rear wheels.
not necessarily, it depends on driving conditions, and they are all fairly intelligent drive systems
4matic has a center LSD which are find for road use and can transfer power front to pack as needed.. You dont need locking front and rear differential with low range transfer case.. you're not going off-roading or rock climbing in a luxury sedan with 3inch of clearance..
You can get 4MATIC in Mercedes sports cars that are rear wheel drive, can send up to 50% to front wheels, can go 100% in the rear and activate drift mode in some AMG models. It has all the electronic fancy stuff to be fuel efficient while at the same time giving you the most grip possible
@@MrBitemeidareyaYeah thats the new version, only been out a year or so hasnt it. I had haldex 1.4 in my tts and it was AWFUL.
My Audi Q5 is still a real Quattro...I was considering trading on a new Q5 but now they are just FWD with the rear being turned on sometimes I think I'll just keep the current car.
You can tell by which way the engine is mounted. If mounted traversal, you have a Haldex AWD system, biased to FWD and can usually only split 50/50 when needed. If engine is mounted longitudinally, you have a torsen system which is RWD biased with generally a constant 60/40 split under normal conditions.
The Mercedes 4matic and BMC Xdrive are kinda similar. The Audi Quattro is really exceptional
They are all the same! Merc executed it in the simplest way possible. Weight advantage!
maliti emmanuel not really. 4matic and xdrive are shit in winter compared to quattro and awd from Subaru.
@@l.m.1375 That moment when ppl think a product from their favorite brand is the best! Get serious!? Check out the GLE 2019 or the G 2019. Systems are always updated! Next year it can be Toyota on top!
maliti emmanuel new isn't always better. Older cars are often better than new one because of more mechanic than electric. And that's just a fact because I've drove many different cars and also from other people's experiences and what I've seen: xDrive and 4matic are shit when you live in the mountains.
L. M. Watch tyrereviews snow test on quattro vs xDrive vs jag. XDrive is not all behind and most new quattro is a haldex.
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All these silly names come from the marketing departments. For the engineers, this is just one same system with same purpose.
they are all AWD systems but they each work slightly differently
The Quattro is great, I have a 2001 S8 and A4 Avant but the 4Matic is very good also. Have driven my sister's 2000 E320 in a snow storm when everyone else was crawling along at 25 I was able to 50 MPH safely. In fact I really didn't notice a difference vs dry pavement. I haven't driven many AWD BMWs or at least in the snow. I owned a 89 325ix years ago and driven in the snow but wasn't very impressed with that system. Though I think the newer BMWs borrowed technology from Land Rover when they owned them in the late 90s. Around 2004 they put BMW 4.4 V8s in Range Rovers.
Simply put, you could not have been impressed with 89 325ix because the xdrive didn't exist back then. They only introduced the system back in 2003. the cars since 1985 with AWD used a different approach to drive all 4s. quattro has been the king of AWDs but only until about 10 or so years ago, now these systems (at least from top manufacturers) have very little between them. It will mostly depend on driver, technique and tyres. Where I live, my 16 F11 xdrive gets me through 25cm snow (close to 1 feet) without any signs of a struggle.
@@oskarsveberis4543 BMW borrowed the tech when they purchased Land Rover but still the early X5s are problematic. Took them a decade to figure it out to be more reliable but they're getting there.
I was driving Audi quattro many years on snowy mountains and Audi quattro is so much reliable than any car for that environment because of their transfer's and differential system.
I just came back from a skitrip, we had a BMW X5 with Xdrive, it climbed the icy mountain easily and we even rescued 2 cars by towing them up from a valley.
Muss du aufpassen..Bekante im Schnee Gas gegeben..wollte seinem Sonn zeigen wid x5 Drifftet..Ackswelle war durch..gefertigt aus Rohr..beim audi ist Antriebwelle aus Metall..kein Rohr...
AUDI QUATTRO all day long. I own 17 A4 and it’s my 4th AUDI in a row and no plans of trading this brand
Audis engine and transmission bad is just crap
Francisco Martinez wrong, I've owned 4 as well, no failures years range from 1999, 2011, 2014, 2018. All great to own
Not even after they caused all those Tdi owners to lose 2/3 of the value of their car over night? Oh yeah I would love buying a car from a scam artist for 30k then the next day it’s worth 10 because vw is crooks
i own both bmw benz and Audi,but I have 5audis ,only 1benz and 1bmw, I’d say Audi awd system is the best of these 3 German brand
Too bad vw doesnt have a quattro. You could save some money since you're technically driving a vw with a different badge. Lmao
I'm down with the Audi Quattro.
I have W205 AMG w/4Matic, and the biggest difference between 4Matic & Audi/BMW AWD is that there is lack of individual wheel torque adjustment/tune, essentially it's based on the whole axle, whereas Audi is able to affect individual wheel speeds for cornering and/or icy/uneven terrain. The only real advantage is the huge weight savings and simplicity/fuel economy.
Globeonline what do you thing wich is the best drive Quattro,xdrive or 4motion
Audi = King of AWD
Stupid fanboys
That's true Audi is the best, exceptionally the best
Mercedes is the best at the interior and luxury because of Maybach and mercedes is also best in F1
Audi = king of ccksckrs
just right after subaru
AUDI quattro💪
Very Beautiful Video Thanks.
The pto on the merc seams prom to shear on the output the diff is pretty standard
Audi and Subaru are the best. Would be great to see comparison of these two.
since this video, BMW has introduced a new faster acting traction system called ARB internally. fiber optic system that works 10x faster than previous ethernet based talking. also instead of cutting throttle and testing for traction return it simply knows how much traction each wheel has and gives that individual wheel all it can handle. Also in 2018 Audi started moving every one of their Quattro systems to a more rear bias to improve sporty handling.
Let’s agree that Audi is the most sophisticated awd system featuring it on 95% of their cars
Amazing! Thank you! From Rio.
I love Audi❤❤❤❤❤❤😍😍😍😍😍
Quattro is the best wall times
All motor company’s work on there own principles for human kind future. Experimenting makes new innovation to arise.great things by top premium auto maker brands.
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Little bird told me that Acura’s SH-AWD is actually the best all around AWD system out there…
Indeed, Acura's AWD is no. 1. I've seen some incredible moves from Acuras. And after i drove some cars in harsh conditions, i think older Subaru's AWD is somewhat better then Audi's Quatro. Didn't drive the new Subaru, i own a 2010 Outback and it had better stability and traction then a 2020 Audi A8. Also, i heard that Toyota will use Subaru's AWD on their new generations of Toyotas and Lexus, that is very very good decision, especially for Lexus, which is only a city car.
Bird is wrong. SH-AWD is a clutch based part time system. Any permanent AWD beats it, example Subaru, Torsen Quattro, Jeep quadra trac. Honda CRVs similar system was rated worst out of any crossover, cant even beat a Rav4.
Mercedes over 60 mph is a monester , astonishing stability and handling, the car wants to go !!!!
Best awd system I ever drove was on the old Nissan GT-R 32/33. Rear drive with viscus diff and hydraulic clutch pack in the transfer case. No matter how hard you launched it there was never a delay in engagement. Just sweet rear drive grip with a very progressive torque transfer to the front. Plus it had a gauge that told you how much torque was being sent to the front. Plus plus you could just turn it off for sheer hooliganism.
Audi is best technology Deutsch car
This is germany 💎
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The one you have is the best.
if they (OOOO) don't use anymore the torsen central diff "bullet proof" system which have to had that engine in the front of the axle.. why they didn't resolve understeering character by moving engine slightly to the back?
quattro power is best
BMW 😍😍
Bmw king❤❤❤❤
What's the name of application you use to do this animation??
They are great format to have fun and to modify and create art on and correctly spec out on them why not more technology for us.
From these videos I see, there is not any difference. All are multi-plate clutch systems which couple other axle when needed. Audi has some strange decoupler additionally to switch off driveshaft completely. I wonder how much thic additional complexity saves fuel. So no central torsen diff for Audi anymore, quattro is just marketing slogan. Considering torsen was licenced technology, probably Audi switched for cheaper one and as multiplate clutch is mostly disengagend on good roads, saves fuel.
I'm with you. When you smear away the marketing wank it comes down to who spent the most on real-world software tuning.
Om
AUDI CUATRO❤💪👍
Buenos días. Cual es el más eficiente de los tres? Gracias.
Audi Quattro ultra
Quattro ultra es el más eficiente
@@ibrahimibrahim2427 muchas gracias. Un conocido se ha comprado audi q3 sportback 230cv.y dice que el sistema que lleva es el mejor🤷♂️ pero este coche creo que no lleva ese que dices.no lo se. Gracias👍
O M G ............THANKS THANKS THANKS FOR YOU YOU DONT KNOW HOW IT HAPEN TO ME NOW .....THANKS ONE MOR TIME
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Quattro the best when it come to all wheels driving system
This describes the system for A, B, and GLA class. The other classes are setup differently
Audi as well. The part-time systems are generally rubbish except for rain and maybe getting you un-stuck from your driveway or at a stop light. So you have to check each model to see what system it actually has as they are all branded the same for for marketing purposes.
@@plektosgaming cheaper models across all makes have slightly less effective systems. Audi, bmw, benz, more expensive models have better systems. The Asian cars as a whole except Subaru (and some acuras) have very ineffective systems.
@@kgpax From what I can tell, they are designed for rain and that's about it. If your car has to come to a stop and then it takes literally half a second to a full second to jiggle the wheels around to find its brain, it's useless in actual snow or mud. I get what they wanted to do - which is to put an extra diff in the mix so that the 4wd system could work without the tires crabbing and hopping around corners, but relying on computers and hydraulic fluid is absurd if it takes several seconds for it to start working. The original (and expensive) AWD systems (Audi and Subaru) worked because they did this all mechanically, just with extra components to handle the differing driveshaft speeds. But then the bean counters got involved and a $5000 system - well, we can do it cheaper... If it can't handle snow or keep the wheels spinning, it's zero wheel drive and a bunch of fake advertising. As we see all too well.
@@plektosgaming sort of.....but in general yes...you are correct..
@@plektosgaming I can tell you here in the northeast the so called cars that have AWD get stuck often and can't get up icy hills.......I believe in some respects some cars should not be allowed to be badged as AWD.
Сам фанат BMW но щас то чуство что ауди в пот надовал своим конкурентам
Quattro, Quattro, Quattro!!! 🤩
Super bro
All are good seriously , i drive all of these no diference , All have the same tyres.....🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙✌👍👌👍👌
Am happy to be one of the plane drivers...x5
So.. The new quattro system isn't permanently awd? Really!? These new changes to the 'proper quattro' system suck. It means that your next new Audi A4 quattro is going to basically be front wheel drive most of the time! ???? It's nonsense that it will make the car more fuel efficient. My c4 a6 quattro is permanent awd and it's 5 cylinder diesel engine is very good on fuel.The only thing this change in the quattro system is going to do, is it's going to make the system more complicated, more fragile and more prone to braking down.Mercedes creates an awd system that basically turns it into a predominantly front wheel drive car, and spoils the handling of the car and now Audi has blindly followed them like a sheep and is going down the same road!?Sorry Audi, but your permanent Awd system was one of your USP's. And now you are basically forcing a similar system on us like the Haldex system that everybody who knows anything about it, hates!Subaru must be laughing in their boots! They will be the only decent truly awd cars left to buy. Talk about an own goal Audi!
Don't want to bring you down but Subaru has never had permanent awd. This "symmetrical awd" is just marketing. There is no central differential like torsen in (real) quattro.
omg, now I see you're a girl! and you drive C4 audi, wow. ;)
Some more expensive Subarus had centre diff with limited slip diff, but mostly yeah they are multi-plate clutches too.
I had a Subaru WRX as my daily driver for 16 years. Subaru must have a really good marketing department, because the "symmetrical awd" worked very well for me. I never got stuck on damp hilly grassy car parks at concerts and gigs, or in snow, or gravel. It just went, wherever I pointed it, on whatever road surface, at whatever speed I wanted. It was really good in the snow, when I could drive up and down the steep hill where I live and weave my way around the abandoned front and rear wheel drive cars and the people trying to dig their stranded Audi, BMW and Mercedes out of 2 or 3 inches of snow. I think my model had some sort of limited slip diff between the front wheels, another between the rear wheels, and another in the centre to slip the power front to rear. Nothing for me to adjust, just get in, drive. But after 4 sets of tyres and 150,000 miles with very little maintenance, and everything else still original, my other half and children said it was time to grow up and get something "sensible" before something did eventually break one day and leave me stranded.
Yes, it was already pointed out to me. I was very much misled by inconsistent terminology. In many articles viscous coupling (like in the Haldex) is used to describe the Subaru's mechanism instead of a limited slip differential. I'm sorry that I copied this inaccuracy. Actually I'm glad that this is not true. Although I'll be sure when I disassemble one such differential by my self. ;)
this video is top 3.
The viscous coupling which often being used decades ago were bygone. Also Torsen.
Quattro 💪💪💪
Ауди🤴
Quattro is the best!!
Used to have an Audi 2000 A6 & it let me drive on 5 in ice with semi-slick tires
Wow, who else here owes their transmission guy a little more respect? 😂
Perrps
audi quattro! king of all wheel drive technology
can`t watch this chassis with the engine out of the wheelbase and manufacures beeing proud of it!!!
BMW x drive with proper tyres is the best after testing
No
Audi system is better. Plus Quattro sounds sexier than xdrive or 4motion. 👍🏼 They just copy cats 🐱 Lamborgini huracan is based on Audi 's 4x4 system. ENUF SAID ! WINNER 👍🏼
MrBig s Quattro sounds like Mexican burrito
Sheer driving pleasure in a Mercedes ad. Hmmm
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I have audi a5 sportback and the performance in corners is awful but it saved my life once when I needed to slow down from 230 to 40 I did not lost control . My alfa romeo 159 is so much better in corners.
Love Quattro