This Off-Road Camper Will Make You Want To Quit Your Job!
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(www.TFLoffroad.com) Is the ITW Overland Boreas XT camping trailer one of the best options for you? Alex runs down all the features.
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Jokes on you. I don’t need a trailer to make me want to quit my job.
I figured that thing would be really over priced for what you get, only I was off by 10k. 28k for that thing is an absolute joke and they should feel ashamed.
At that price you could easily make your own for about 5 or 6k
yea a fully loaded Hiker is what less then 15K with everything and fully offroad.
and the base hiker in that size is 5900 if that is a 5x10
@Mike Boysen lmao thanc
@@Lee-gc2mq exactly there's a very very small market for that trailer at its price point I think everyone who wants one like it could build their own
$28K lmfao wtf. Might as well buy another car.
Very limited market with this price range. I’d have to keep my job for that price! Lol
I don't care if it was made out of gold. That thing isn't worth $28k.
1950 lbs of gold for under 28k . I would buy 100 of them
Your right bro. Kids now days??
I'm seriously thinking about getting one of the Off-Grid Pando 2.0
It's heavy too
Looks like an awesome rig, but I would pay any more than 15-18k for it.
wow, this price should include a tow vehicle.
Truth
Welcome to the world of overlanding
That’s why you make your own
27k and no air conditioning!! 😂😂
27,500 ???? What a joke !!!!!
I am. Oticimg that most tiny off roaring camper company's are selling their trailers for 20 to 45 grand. Crazy high prices for these very tiny off road type camper trailers. Could just go buy a big 24 to 30 door long huge trailers for that kind of money. I will just spend 3,500.00 to 4 grand on a rooftop tent to install on a bed rack on my 2023 Tacoma TRD OR model 4x4 truck. Then get my naval officer son to help me find a old military trailer to build out to hold my camping gear and a n electric mtn bicycle or a small enduro style motorcycle.
28 grand for a trailer that has no ac and I can’t stand up on the inside?? No thanks!
Just a quick follow-up: You did a great job on this video. Presented the details well and was easy to watch. Thank you!
$27.5K HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahaahahahah
lol....
you can buy 9 base price hikers for that
HAHAHAHA AHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHA !!
Post of the week! LOL!
Can't figure out who this is for... Like you're not gonna do crazy offroading overlanding with a trailer..and if you just want to camp, for the price you can get a better camper.
This price is a joke for what you get. I paid 10,000 for my mini camp trailer new and I have AC, TV, toilet, oven and so on. I don’t have solar panels. You got me there, but I got my generac.
Generac? Pfft. Peasant. I only go for name brand. J/K I just like to make that pun every chance I get.
Would love to know the brand of yours. Been looking to import one or two
14:56 into the video. Check out how rusty the frame is already...and this is brand new.
Thought it was dirt to start with, but yeah, that's a rusty weld right in the middle. WTAF.
Mostly dirt, but still...
For $27.5k, this thing should be made from carbon fiber, have electric motors in the hubs to power the trailer for rock climbing, a battery pack to power the electric motors, a small generator to run electronics, hvac system for year round use, and should hydraulically raise the roof when parked to have dual beds and a small shower toilet combo.
Mike Boysen lol, you think you need an over priced trailer to camp? I got news for you. That thing is dead weight. It’s for wealthy older individuals whom dream of hitting the elements yet never will. Good luck pulling a 1 ton unpowered object up and over terrain a good 4x4 could barely make it up. But who am I to stop you from experiencing those warm and fuzzy feelings of buyers remorse when you realize how much a liability 2000lbs of dead weight is on an actual trail.
Mike Boysen it’s actually called a long-tail strategy. Based off statistical distributions. Businesses typically go for products that reach 1 to maybe 2 standard deviations away from the mean (vast majority of people). These strategies are the opposite, and go for customers in the tail of the distributions opposed to the bell(2-3 sd) as they are not being represented. Problem is that there is little economies of scale there. Meaning you design a product and have few customers to distribute fixed costs over as well as paying more for materials. They are also probably trying to offload their higher fixed costs with variable costs, which raises marginal cost, so that they can scale with demand. If they invested into a production facility they could dramatically lower marginal costs, but would run the risk of not selling enough units while having to maintain the fixed costs. Which is a huge problem of long tail strategies for physically produced goods. It’s generally a poor business decision which is why you don’t see large firms doing it, but the risk can be very rewarding. Here is the kicker. In these strategies, marginal revenue has to be dramatically higher than marginal cost in order to be profitable, so it’s easy to build the product at a profit(MR>MC). Which means if the market expands, then firms will enter and reduce economic profit. All of this has nothing to do with the fact that it’s a useless trailer. It’s too heavy and unpowered to make it over difficult objects, and too small for leisure camping. Better off getting a used motor home and flat towing your rig. For the size of this trailer, an alloy frame with carbon composite body would make it far more useful. Give the wheels the gift of torque so it could actually pull it’s own weight and it wouldn’t be such a huge liability off road. Hence the original comment. Either way, this is a super niche product that is heavily dependent upon older males with $30k to blow on a tent wanting, not actually doing, to “overland.” I am sure that any halfway decent diy-er could build something similar for half the cost. Heck, I could buy a small enclosed trailer for a few grand and fairly easily build something comparable for 1/3rd the price. If you need to spend $27.5k on a couple conveniences while camping, then I feel bad for you. A quality tent takes only a few minutes to deploy with an inflatable mattress, or even a roof top tent.
Mike Boysen So you refuse to respond to the 1 ton boat anchor response for the second time, yet keep shifting the discussion towards economics. Lol. So I take it you don’t disagree with the fact that this trailer dramatically reduces off road capabilities. To the economics, it’s quite simple and is the reason why you don’t see large firms enter these niche markets. I already outlined why it’s a poor decision, but I’ll reiterate the key points. These firms are catering to very small markets. This means that fixed costs cannot be diluted across the products, and that materials to build it cost more. Because investing in production (automation, buildings, tooling) is quite risky, firms must depend on skilled labor. This raises marginal costs. Higher marginal costs means lower profit since profit = revenue - cost. The biggest risks are changing consumer landscapes and economic downturns. Either could cripple the firms ability to generate economic profit. Especially considering the nature of luxury goods. Enormous long term risk with relatively low reward = poor business decisions. Ultimately the market sees very high failure rates in niche businesses.
@Mike Boysen So your THIRD response that doesn't address the actual problems with product like these. That they're too heavy and dramatically reduce offroad capability despite them being intended for that. Ok then. I never attacked anyone about buying this. I find the price to be extremely unrealistic, just like I find the price of a Ferrari to be as such. I would never attack someone for overspending. My original comment simply states what the product would have to be for me to justify spending that much money on it. You're the one attacking people for being shocked by how overpriced this product is. Clearly you have become very defensive over your intended purchase that you're displaying classical signs of cognitive dissonance (irrationally thinking people are attacking you is a strong indicator.) You consistently try to change the argument from "a business charging too much" to "why don't you build it yourself." Anyone with a remote understanding of business operations realizes the high cost of prototyping, so only an angry troll would try and conflate a finished product that should be streamlined with an inefficient prototype. By all means, buy a $30k trailer that will heavily restrict your movements. I couldn't care less about your financial planning. But stop crying about how others have a different opinion than yourself. Even your own asinine comment about how people are predictable for posting that this price is outrageous shows that you're trying to convince yourself that this is a good purchase. That's also extremely hypocritical of you to accuse me of attacking people when you have engaged in multiple threads attacking others for simply stating the price is too high. What? No cute comment about my "wood" or "size" like in the other thread. It must be a sad life to motivate one to go onto youtube and troll others for simply posting their thoughts.
Firestarter the problem is the mike is clearly the old idiot who bought this thing and is doing everything in his power to defend his purchase when he knows 100% that you are right and he’ll never actually use this thing
Picked up a Jayco Baja for $5500 that'll do everything this will and sleep a family comfortable. Have a dual 6v setup with 260w of solar, water purification, outside shower, propane/electric/diesel heaters, 3 beds, indoor AND outdoor kitchen, and platform for my ATV or bikes. Added a rear hitch to also take my boat to the lake. That isn't a bad trailer, but it's too spendy for what little you get.
You can’t take your Jayco off road up a mountain though it will fall apart on your second trip for sure. AND THAT IS THE POINT
Put bigger tires on a pop up camper and you have the same thing for 1/4 the cost.
Tex Patriot and change the suspension for another 800.
Really a Déjà vu spin of info commercial from yesterday.
This is actually a pre-made released later than with 17 minutes vs only 10 tho. :P
$27500???? 😂😂😂. Without AC? Hahahahahaha..... not a chance.
Love the video, gave me great ideas for building my off-road trailer!!! I think I build it for 6,000, struggle to find a door like this one.
Its really nice but like many have said,Its to expensive.
Hahaha 30k, for 30k ill build my own!!! And save about 27k whist im at it!!
i'd buy that for about $4,500.
that's probably how much it costs to build
if that's the case, they need to improve their efficiency. no way it costs 4.5k in materials unless they sourced the most expensive stuff possible and didn't negotiate. stainless steel sheet metal is 0.95-1.45 per pound right now. I'd estimate COGS@std at like 1.5-2k max. You can straight up buy an ATV with an engine and moving parts for 4.5k.
Exactly I wouldn’t pay anymore than 5k for this.
spons1982 you’re forgetting labor for the people building it, or do you work for free?
No, i'm not. Modern assembly is relatively inexpensive via automation and assembly lines. Those also aren't expenses calculated in COGS@standard. Typical mark-up on manufacturing items as they go from manufacturer to dealer/distributor is 30-50%, which covers the operating costs you're talking about and allows a bit of margin. What we see here is an initial markup of likely 400% with more dealer/distributor markup on top of that, likely from estimated volume being low. I think the thing they didn't account for was that they are forcing volume to be low by offering at such steep prices well outside the range of most American families. You could straight up buy a new vehicle for the same amount complete with actual engine, electronics, software, etc. these folks are crazy.
Lost me at 27K lmfao...
Horrible price.
Really cool concept and I’m sure they might sell a few but as many have said it’s really pricey. It’s definitely off road worthy but most places don’t require that much off road ability to camp and enjoy. Good video
Thanks guys, this was a great video!
Great video! Id love to see more overland stuff.
Didn't they say on the other video they only sold 125 units ? At that price it's no wonder.
Most folks scoffing at the price have never towed an RV Off-road. They come apart at the seams shockingly quick. Mind you, I'm talking trails, not dirt roads. I'd rather pay once for a trailer up to the challenge than destroy several that weren't and be out the total investment. If state parks is all you plan to visit there are plenty of options to do this cheaper.
What a few peeps below don't get is you can leave this thing close buy the site your exploring and camp is set up when you get back ,and yes you can tow them over tough terrain fairly easily with the right vehicle. But yea, i am old to some but i am living this life not weekending it. So basically enjoy your tents and your home built s as they fall apart on the trails . Been there done that . DO YOU ! and i really hope it works out for you. Check prices, they run across the board similar.
It's too damn expensive for $27,500! No way!
So over priced....but hey, so is all the off-road equipment as it's the new trend...gotta look good for Instagram pics lol
Into The Wild Overland makes a solid trailer 👌🏻
All I know is that I am making a super beefed up strong overland camper right now with a steel frame and independent timbres axles along with all the features I want and it is going to cost me around 6k so this is kinda ridiculous.
Also, that weight! Crazy heavy for a teardrop.
Looked at the comments and seen the price, didn’t even watch the video. Looking for a camper not another mortgage payment 🖕🏿
Great walk around
This looks like a sales video to me.
Didnt we get a walk around yesterday? And why isnt this on the Tesla X? And who is this?
This is a more in-depth look at the trailer with Alex. Alex has been working at TFL for a few months, primarily on TFLoffroad and behind the camera work on other TFL channels.
They already did the road trip with the Tesla X. They just have to edit it. So while they have this trailer, might as well make more vids on it. Maybe there is a # they have to make to get the discount on it for using it. lol
Keep him behind the camera. Annoying voice and the one man cam isn’t entertaining it’s grating on my nerves.
This one is really loaded up (RTT, 270 awning, heater, full kitchen, Dometic, water tank, on/off grid power, etc) if that $27k price is correct. I also like Hiker Trailers and Tiny Camper Company in Groveland, FL
This trailer starts at $27k but it's around $45k as shown in this video. Hiker Trailer is a much more affordable option but still not cheap when loaded up, think its about $23k when they're fully loaded up.
I think these trailers are great. It would be so cool hitching one of these up to my truck. We have owned a few campers and I wonder what my wife would say if I sunk north of 20k on a camper that provides no toilet. Does anyone ever consider you have to take a dump from time to time? Yep, I have done my share of crapping in the woods (I would not expect my wife to). But if I am spending this kind of money I'm gonna crap in comfort. Oh, that's right you can pitch another tent for your porta potty. Hmm so I spend all this money because I am tired of tent camping then I have to pitch a tent anyway to take a dump. Like I said these are great and probably best for younger people. I'm 58 and at this stage I think having a decent crapper is not too much to ask for. I just wonder how many people buy a camper like this because they are crazy cool looking and have everything (well almost everything), get to where they are going, cook a great meal in that fantastic kitchen then later after processing that meal wondering; Oh crap!
For that kinda loot, I would rather buy a cargo trailer and set up a Hilleberg tent in it, and have all the real estate still, to carry my Quad and other camping supplies...Besides it's departure angle is similar to a cargo trailer with off road tires. BTW, they said no wood? Aren't the interior walls and cabinets plywood as I saw in the video? An invitation for mold and mildew. The Expedition 2.0 Squareback trailers by Off Grid trailers are much better suited for off road use. Build using no wood products, it's all metal composite and insulated. Totally customizable. And a lot cheaper bc of the Canadian dollar. kzhead.info/sun/mauyY5SMg4yfhYU/bejne.html
I think either Roman, Tommy, or the manufacturer dude said it was actually composite but had like a wood vinyl/sticker over it so it at least looked like wood.
I have an idea now to make one like this for myself
The interior wall paneling is not FRP (fiberglass reinforced plastic), it's plain ol' vinyl laminated wood paneling, either 1/4" mdf or 1/8" luan. I'm glad about the price though because when I start making my trailers they will sell very well with an under $10k price. These camper makers are insane with the prices they are charging.
No departure angle at rear underside means you will drag the rear on small steep hills. No air conditioning.. The price is too high. I can buy another Bronco sport or a jeep for that price. Still a nice camper. Not sure how well it would do in snow conditions
Awesome review! Price is a little high for that trailer though.
Why not also do a Hiker Trailer review and then a head to head comparison, Hiker Trailers are made right there in Denver and way more customizable.
Beautiful camper, perfect for Idaho backcountry! I wonder if it’s possible to get a partner stove instead? Subscribed!
Its a well thought out trailer that would be great for camping multiple days. But its way too expensive, my ball park guess would be $10-15k.
We had the rear half of a pickup modified to be a trailer. All of the trailer engineering would already be done. How much is a 4 Wheel camper?
28k for that? A flat utility trailer and a trip to home depot later and you can build this yourself for about 10-12k. Hell I bet you could hire contractors to do it and still only pay 18-20k. You're just better off getting a compact travel trailer and replacing the stock tires and suspension if you really need something this offroad capable
Where can I find these outside lights on a switch on the side of your trailer?
$27.5k an has bungee's holding stuff
That is a very nice camper. Subscribed and switched on notifications
Over $27k!? Wha!? Is that 4 1/2 mattress 1000 bucks an inch or something?
When you guys do your walk around always and please cover what's the cost ? How much . From lowest price point to the Highest one ???
Great job
No ac? So it's not meant to be used in the summer when most people are able to get out. And here in Texas it's good maybe one month a year unless you consider sleeping in a sweat box a vacation.
I agree with you, fellow Texan to hot to not have A/C. I have researched this trailer a while back, and not sure but think it can be had with A/C. I like these size trailers for overlanding and off-road. I am near Corpus Christi, and enjoy traveling up and down Padre Island National Seashore. This trailers and a few others like them would be excellent, and not sink in the sand. So I enjoy surf fishing without the hassle of getting stuck. Not to hijack TFL, but there is another company out of Utah called "Bean trailers." Trailers are all fiberglass construction not wood, built for overlanding. A/C can be ordered on these.
@@danielhoegler2062 for the price I would expect to not have to order ac. And something I didn't like and in your usage with being on the beach it would be worse is the bed taking up the entire interior. Can you imagine how much sand you would bring to bed with you? It needs enough area inside the door so that you can close it, change out of wet, sandy or muddy cloths and then get to the bed. Maybe put a super single if two people or a single for one person instead of the fill every inch of space queen size they come with.
@@JamesSmullins Hahaah! Yes, I have learned to live with the sand!)) I can agree at the price and having A/C included.
Was just wondering if there are ever used ones that maybe someone traded in that would be for sale
Very similar to many lightweight Campers in Australia
I love these, but I hate the price tag. They’re too proud! I’d love a base model with a solar panel.
Wait did u say 27k!!!!?? GTFOH.
Off-road? How is the chassis/ frame built? What is the suspension? Recovery points? How is the wiring routed? On and on and on...what does it mean off-road?
Off road just means KO2s and a funky rotating coupler.
The reflector side should be facing in to get the inside temp a few degrees cooler test it and you will see.
I have tried it, the black fabric radiates a tonne of heat inside.
Your camera skills are giving me a heady
It would be great to add a popup section to the roof so you could stand up in the trailer. I know you would have to remove the roof rack bars and the popup would only occupy a central portion of the roof, but being able to stand up and put on overclothes before going out in the snow or rain would be great. Relative to GT500's post, the chassis might need reinforcement if you cut the roof.
28k,...... NO THANKS!!!!!
Hello. Where to put your shoes when you are inside?
I rather put that money dow for the rivian
Take it on Hells Revenge to test the offroadiness of it.
Are the TFL channels just making infomercials for anyone who sends them a vehicle?
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT !!
Just add “overlanding” to your name and you can price it four times higher.
Could carry a cordless drill for the leveling jacks
Ironic title considering most people find the price overwhelming. Thus they would need to keep their jobs in order to pay for it. :) And while I say.. too each their own, this is def. not my thing either. But for the purpose of what you are going for, I reckon it is ideal for your show. More power to you. :)
Hey, Alex (very handsome). Love the idea of an "off-road" camper. Maybe not for rock climbing, but at least off-pavement down a dirt road that is not the slide in pick-up camper my dad had. $27k = ouch, think much better 5th-wheels can be found at that price.
No thank you. It’s a nice trailer, but at that price point, I’d rather get a leftover 2018 Jeep JL Wranger that’s sitting on the dealer lots.
Luke Edward that’s a hell of a way to look at it. 😂 I love these things, but damn they’re expensive.
I've been researching trailers and so far the only one that's the most appealing to me is the High Altitude Trailer. I haven't contacted them yet but I do like the one piece tub design and what appears to be metal plate on the actual trailer before the tub goes on. THEN the wood goes on. If I'm seeing all that correctly, that seems like the best option for longevity and less possibility of wood rot from driving in snow country and dealing with mag chloride. The second thing I like is the front 2/3rds of it is coated with rhino liner or some form of it👍 highaltitudetrailer.com/features-options/
I can get a Geo Pro 12SRK for $10k. Hmmm, tough decision. I think I'll go with air conditioning, being in SE TX and all. I understand the attraction though. We have the record for offshore racing boats that have never been offshore at all. And off road rigged up Jeeps that have just driven through a yard or two.
There are far better options out there for much less ... good review though... 👍
Video got instantly better with the sound turned off.
I’ll take my Intech Flyer Pursue.
this folks is what we call more money than brains
I think they need to rethink the overall price of this thing. Like, who is it for? It does have some cool features, but for the price, I can get a pretty nice 5th wheel trailer. These types of campers are meant to be more affordable because they are minimal.
I don't know what's worse the $28,000 dollar price tag or the fact that I've seen so many people towing this con artist on two wheels down the highway. When i saw them i always thought hmmm thats a sweet little off road trailer....Wonder what that pretty little thing goes for? My honest guess was $7,000-$10,000 and i would still consider that to be over priced! Boy was I off! Id take my $500 10x10 kodiak canvas tent which takes about 15 mins to set up and 10 mins to break down, and even though Im 6ft-2 I can easily stand up in it with room and comfort to spare. With all that extra money I saved I can go out and get me a Polaris Ranger 1000XP crew cab and a new trailer to tow it with! I can collect firewood on the property with it, I can tow the flail mower with it, I can plow with it in the winter, I can throw my wife, dogs, and camp gear in the back seat with my Rifle and my yeti in the front seat... ;) while listening to some Merle and George Straight on a Mountain trail that would have long put an end to anybody towing that yuppie mobile! To each his own I guess...
And a husband like you
the only people that will buy that trailer for 27 thousand trust fund babies I could build for half.
What is it with these tiny trailer companies that price their minimalist trailers the same as a 30 foot luxury trailer? The first company to price these things realistically will take over this market.
Im going to buy 2 maybe 3 because no one wants to be screwed once when camping
28k including a car too right?
Cool but for that price. There's bigger better campers out there not worth that price point
But are they off road capable? People are paying for mobility and convenience, which is difficult to pair together cheaply.
$30,400 dollars? for that price I want to be able to run that trailer and every thing I have with me off the solar system at least.
I've seen literal full campers for less than that price. Why would I pay more for a trailer. Especially since I could make that same trailer myself for a quarter of the price
Make it
Imagine how many of these they would sell if they were sold for what they cost to make with some profit.
can you imagine... trailer for $27k, the weight of it is probably 1k kg+, that means heavy vehicle to tow that trailer...that kind of truck is not cheap either ... how much is the set?
28k I know the market it is targeting. But you can buy a full size tow behind and take all your friends with a couch and tv for that.LOL
😂🤣
This is very nice but very over priced, I’ve built my own teardrop trailer a little bigger and way more technology and features then this and it only cost me $4,000
pics or it didn't happen
I can get a regular tow behind trailer with a kitchen and bathroom for way cheaper than this. Granted I’m not goin to take it off-road but if I’m goin off-road I’m ground tent camping. This is ridiculous
Those graphics on the side are really expensive! They cost about $10,000?? It reminds me of the butterfly tax on benchmade knives...;)
Very cool, especially for the size
Good in-depth review, but zoom out. Your camera was way too close and moving around too much. I know you were alone, but you need a tripod.