NEW UPDATES! Zorin OS 17 vs Mint | Which is better for new users?

2023 ж. 21 Жел.
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Considering the new updates to both Zorin OS 17 and Linux Mint 21.3 right around the corner, I thought it would be high time to evaluate these distros in terms of which one is better suited to the new user.
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  • I think Zorin OS has a much better UI, that alone can help new users out. First impressions matter!

    @purpasmart_4831@purpasmart_48314 ай бұрын
    • Too many "pro" features in zorin os come standard in linux mint

      @easymoney480@easymoney4804 ай бұрын
    • ​@@easymoney480doesn't matter you could always find an open source software on the internet

      @Nemesis-db8fl@Nemesis-db8fl4 ай бұрын
    • @@easymoney480 Such as? As far as I know the only "pro" features are a few different desktop layouts and a handful of software anyone can download in 3 minutes.

      @dragonballjiujitsu@dragonballjiujitsu4 ай бұрын
    • Absolutely! That's a very valid point..Mint is fully free.

      @viveksreedharan88@viveksreedharan884 ай бұрын
    • @@viveksreedharan88 So is Zorin unless you want to pay for the pro version. The core and lite versions are completely free.

      @dragonballjiujitsu@dragonballjiujitsu4 ай бұрын
  • 🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🚀 *Introduction to Zorin OS 17 and Linux Mint 21.3* - Introduction to choosing a Linux distribution for new users. - Mention of Zorin OS and Linux Mint as popular choices for beginners. - Overview of the video's goal to provide thoughts on Zorin OS 17 and compare it with Linux Mint. 01:38 🖥️ *Installation Process and Development Lifecycle* - Both Zorin OS 17 and Linux Mint 21.3 use the same ubiquity installer. - Mention of their common base on Ubuntu 20.04 with distinctions in development timelines. - Discussion on Zorin OS 17 having service pack updates for kernel and driver compatibility. 03:09 🌐 *First Impressions: Desktop Environment* - Zorin OS 17 noted for a polished, modern, and spaced-out interface. - Linux Mint 21.3 desktop described as standard with more granular details. - Comparison of UI elements, menu, system tray, and overall aesthetics. 07:04 ⚙️ *Performance Insights* - Remarkable performance of Zorin OS 17 with RAM usage under 1 GB at cold boot. - Linux Mint 21.3 also praised for responsiveness with a focus on Spartan functionality. - Mention of Zorin's optimizations for a smoother and fluid user experience. 10:18 🎮 *Gaming Performance Comparison* - Brief comparison of gaming performance, acknowledging Zorin OS having a slight advantage. - Recognition that neither distribution is explicitly built for gaming. - Emphasis on Zorin OS delivering a slightly better gaming experience in superficial testing. 11:42 🛍️ *App Selection and Installation* - Zorin OS praised for a polished GNOME Software Center with support for Flatpak, Snap, and Deb packages. - Mention of Zorin's seamless integration of Windows app support. - Acknowledgment of Linux Mint's functional but somewhat aged software manager with more customization. 14:39 📱 *Integration with Hardware and Smartphones* - Both Zorin OS and Linux Mint discussed for using similar backend tools for hardware integration. - Recognition of Zorin Connect for smartphone synchronization out of the box. - Acknowledgment that Linux Mint can achieve similar functionality but requires separate installations. 16:03 🛠️ *Quality of Life Improvements and Longevity* - Discussion on Zorin OS having quality of life updates and service pack updates. - Concerns raised about Zorin OS being based on an older Ubuntu release and potential hardware compatibility issues. - Acknowledgment of Linux Mint following closely behind Ubuntu for hardware compatibility. 17:56 ✨ *Conclusion and Recommendation* - Zorin OS recommended for new users due to its curated and polished experience. - Personal preference for Linux Mint highlighted for users seeking more configuration and customization. - Overall acknowledgment that both Zorin OS 17 and Linux Mint 21.3 offer positive experiences for Linux users. Made with HARPA AI

    @BNLReactions@BNLReactions4 ай бұрын
    • Thank you

      @user-gp9pc1bp1x@user-gp9pc1bp1xАй бұрын
  • Appreciate the video, looking at both of these, used Zorin the past, a few years ago, nice to see an update and a recommendation

    @beanbag345@beanbag3454 ай бұрын
  • For people who have never even heard of Linux, I recommend: For diehard Win 7 users, try Zorin. For those sick of Win 10, try Mint. I have just the opposite opinion of these two desktops - which is the first impression a new user gets. Zorin looks simpler, plainer, more basic. Mint looks more advanced. True newbies will be comfortable with either, based on their long-learned Windows exposure, but first impressions count. I'd bet that the vast bulk of computer users do very little more than access the internet with maybe some basic "office" work on the side. For them, it matters very little what OS is running when all they do is boot up and open a browser.

    @rockyraab8290@rockyraab82904 ай бұрын
    • for w10 = Zorin Core for w7 = Zorin Light

      @ShadowPriestBear@ShadowPriestBear3 ай бұрын
    • ok, and what do you recommend for newbies to Desktop usage meaning no exposure to Windows, macOS or a Linux distribution (just to a phone)

      @kuhluhOG@kuhluhOG3 ай бұрын
    • @@kuhluhOG Zorin lite no doubt.

      @ShadowPriestBear@ShadowPriestBear3 ай бұрын
    • they say, they are good for beginners but getting a copy of Mint without being scared off by the huge warning to verify SHA is a trick, the instructions on how to verify on windows look scary and most people would stop right there, i was. I ended up going with Zorin for my first because they didnt have any mirrors and it looked like the only copy of the iso was on Zorin's website. Its a good operating system, i learned alot about the basics and then Linux didnt seem so scary anymore. I have yet to try mint, i installed it today.

      @brennenraines51@brennenraines513 ай бұрын
  • Excellent review as always. It's bit like the old Holden vs Ford debate although they are now both defunct. The thing that impresses me is that there are options and Not just 'one size fits all' especially good for new new users. So I'll be trying Zorin alongside Pop and the Mint/s on my systems and then gravitate to the most suitable one. Always look forward to your vids so can't wait for the next one. Have a warm/hot silly season. 🎄🏄‍♂ 👍

    @binaryboyo9674@binaryboyo96744 ай бұрын
  • I don't normally watch Linux comparison vids...BUT i broke my own rule and watched yours. hope your having a wonderful holidays. keep up the good content. i may try zorin for a few months..see how i like it. looks interesting. i run LMDE 6 and i love it...using it since 2 on one device or another.

    @bobbyfried7478@bobbyfried74784 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for the overview! I didn't know that it can run with just 1GB of RAM, that's impressive. Hardware compatibility per the older LTS is somewhat of a concern, but I don't have anything that new, and the overall package looks great. So long as "it works on my machine" 😅, I'll be happy.

    @towel9245@towel92454 ай бұрын
  • Zorin is nice, I've ran it in VMs for quite a while, thanks for the review.

    @taidee@taidee4 ай бұрын
  • Very nice content, thank you. I will try to get Zorin running on my old iMac from 2009

    @thehighwayman78@thehighwayman782 ай бұрын
  • Good job on the comparison 👋

    @geoffreyrenemoiens3089@geoffreyrenemoiens30894 ай бұрын
  • I'm relatively new to Linux and have tried both Zorin OS Pro and Linux Mint. I gravitate toward Zorin OS because of the "fit and finish" benefits you describe. Mint just feels more primitive to me when I compare it to Zorin OS, although I understand that's not really the case under the hood. I would like to add that my favorite distribution, however, is Fedora, but I consider Zorin OS a close second.

    @williamhughes1067@williamhughes10674 ай бұрын
    • I've heard good things about Fedora? What does it allow you to do? I want the opporunity to have a wide range of file directory and UI uh applications.

      @WVWVW1@WVWVW13 ай бұрын
    • Fedora is more cutting-edge than Zorin OS. However, it is not so "bleeding-edge" that you need to be a Linus tyro to use it. That is probably why it is Linus Torvald's personal choice above all other distros. I have to agree that it is probably your best bet.

      @williamhughes1067@williamhughes10673 ай бұрын
    • Ah ok. What do you think of Solus? Any specific distro best for gaming and basic office work? I was originally going to use Mint but Solus seems interesting. Does Zorin have any I guess bumpyness? I might wait untill I get a functional CPU for my desktop and use a cut down windows 10 or 11 on my laptop. @@williamhughes1067

      @WVWVW1@WVWVW13 ай бұрын
  • Coming from Windows or Mac, most Linux distros look old and frumpy. Zorin got me to switch by being the first distro that looked like a commercial OS.

    @raderator@raderator4 ай бұрын
    • This is really funny, because: coming from Linux, Windows and (especially) Mac look old and frumpy.. (seriously)

      @konradzuse4778@konradzuse47783 ай бұрын
    • @@konradzuse4778 Windows 10 looks old and frumpy, but I can't say the same about Windows 11 and later Mac OS's. If anything, it's KDE that starts to look dated, followed by other DEs besides Gnome that looks very nice.

      @p0358@p03583 ай бұрын
    • @@konradzuse4778 Linux looks old or kindergarten styled. Windows looks like Android with windows and normal icons. MacOS looks cutting edge.

      @illegalquantity@illegalquantity3 ай бұрын
    • Sorry, but none of the important Desktops looks more antiquated than MacOS. That's the price MacOS has to pay for its large number of regular users. @@illegalquantity

      @konradzuse4778@konradzuse47783 ай бұрын
  • I love mint, it is super intuitive and user friendly, but I am tired of the windows xp vibes and title bars in general. it needs to get on with the times and start looking good. I am currently trying Zorin OS and am happy so far, nice looking, responsive ...

    @SgtThiel@SgtThiel4 ай бұрын
    • Flat glossy ui isn't "good" imo

      @blitzstrk0@blitzstrk04 ай бұрын
    • UI is just like art. I am just fine with Mint. It agrees with my eye. Title bar? I don't really care, I am using the stuff in the window (client area).

      @CTSFanSam@CTSFanSam4 ай бұрын
    • I am fairly new to Linux and exploring distros. Zorin was so hyped - i tried it and liked it. I was hesitant, but finally got around to Linux Mint, and I absolutely LOVE it! My other favorite , when I want the bells and whistles , is Kubuntu. I came to Linux to get away from Windows for better, more customizable features, control and stability - that i do not get from Windows. I give Zorin 17 credit 4 improving speed of performance over 16. But I'll be waiting on Linux Mint's new release in a few months.

      @ericb8150@ericb81504 ай бұрын
    • I feel Zorin runs perfectly and the UI is perfect.

      @ShadowPriestBear@ShadowPriestBear4 ай бұрын
    • @@paxalotin I'm that case they have a KDE image

      @SgtThiel@SgtThiel2 ай бұрын
  • I personally use Fedora Workstation KDE spin and I switched from Mint (which I still use on other computers) and If I were to recommend an OS, I would recommend Mint. It has pretty much everything you need preinstalled, the codecs, the LibreOffice suite, great multimedia players, backups and huge Debian repository - wide software selection and I personally still prefer APT (or miss?) over DNF. However I must admit that after watching this video and seeing Zorin in action, it is really another awesome OS. I absolutely agree with what was said in the video - Cinnamon in Mint allows more customization, while Zorin is more polished and minimalistic - yet it does not lose much in personalization and customization. I personally prefer some more customization options here and there, that is why actually use KDE on Fedora now. And if something goes the wrong way with Fedora or Red Hat, I am returning to Mint or LMDE for sure. Anyways, thank you for your time and great review!

    @tomasbarek2852@tomasbarek28524 ай бұрын
  • Great review

    @bojanalex5927@bojanalex59274 ай бұрын
  • Outstanding review. I'm a new Linux user and I went with Zorin. Great user experience. Everything works exactly as i hoped it would.

    @powerpopjoey@powerpopjoey2 ай бұрын
  • I'm on LMDE 6 and cold boot runs at a little over 900mb. Not super light but better than Ubuntu which was using 1.6GB cold. Zorin have done a good job with this release and I think people coming from a Mac would be better suited to Zorin. Whereas Windows users might find Mint more familiar.

    @MrOrtmeier@MrOrtmeier4 ай бұрын
    • Just checked and same for me. LMDE6 at 900mb on bootup. This includes the software update checker and gnome-terminal w/ Htop running.

      @ChaiBronz@ChaiBronz4 ай бұрын
    • @@ChaiBronz Yep, same for me.

      @pfitz4881@pfitz4881Ай бұрын
  • Zorin is still the only distro that looks like they used professional graphic designers, like a commercial OS. So it's not a letdown when coming from Windows, Mac or Chrome OS. I wish the major PC makers would get together and develop OEM Linux and put some money into it to make it look nice.

    @raderator@raderator2 ай бұрын
  • Great video, thank you. I am installing Zorin

    @borutp@borutp3 ай бұрын
  • I consistently recommend Mint to new people; and I have been meaning to try ZorinOS, currently running Windows on my main PC (for compatibility with editing software that are harder on Linux) and Mint on my slightly older PC. Can't wait to try ZorinOS :)

    @Komanturne@Komanturne4 ай бұрын
    • Trust me buddy! You can try Zorin. But don't try to look for all features of mint. You may find certain features missing. Linux mint has update manager which makes a lot of things easy including managing kernels. I didn't find that convenience in zorin.

      @viveksreedharan88@viveksreedharan884 ай бұрын
    • I feel the added value of Zorin is superior than mint.

      @ShadowPriestBear@ShadowPriestBear4 ай бұрын
    • @@ShadowPriestBear my point here is we can't compare an apple 🍎 with orange 🍊. Both are unique.

      @viveksreedharan88@viveksreedharan884 ай бұрын
  • I am just very happy Linux has come such a long way. Both distros look great, and there are fewer reasons to use Windows.

    @perfectlyroundcircle@perfectlyroundcircle4 ай бұрын
  • Candy coating is nice but rounded edges disappear once you are deep in and barely see your desktop or explorer anymore. I normally turn all that stuff off just to keep things moving as fast as possible.

    @avidwriter2882@avidwriter28822 ай бұрын
  • I'm running two Intel NUCs from 2013, one on Zorin 16.3, and the other on 17. Zorin is very usable and they make very good TV media boxes for youtube/jellyfin content.

    @Crystawth@Crystawth4 ай бұрын
  • I don't know about LM but with Zorin I don't think there is anyway you can go wrong. I started with Elementary OS ans switched to Zorin 15 a long time ago. I actually bought the Pro (Ultimate) version because I was new and I wanted to see what programs were included. Pro version also offers support if needed. If you are just doing simple things like web browsing, video watching, PDF reading, e-mail, using Libre Office, then this Zorin is perfectly fine. It is super simple to install side by side with Windows or some other OS without overwriting everything on your disk, and when it starts it is in Windows 7 layout mode making everything as simple as it can be.

    @jefft8597@jefft85974 ай бұрын
    • Are the only things you miss from the Core version vs Pro the additional software and the tech support? Are all of the backend enhancements and efficiency settings the same between the two?

      @k.b.tidwell@k.b.tidwell4 ай бұрын
    • I use Zorin for technical support in my job and really runs perfectly! Love it

      @ShadowPriestBear@ShadowPriestBear4 ай бұрын
  • i have distro hopped since 2014? linux mint is the only distro that feels like like an alternative to windows and mac to me. sure other linux distros look better have more flashy features, but linux mint is well rounded like mac and windows.

    @oskar417@oskar4174 ай бұрын
  • I tend to encourage pop os for new individuals for the first impressions. It was the first os that I felt confident I could walk my parents through installing over the phone.

    @tucsonsduke@tucsonsduke4 ай бұрын
  • Not only for beginners. I'm coming from some years of Fedora to Zorin OS to try and i love the UI.

    @Tux256ND@Tux256NDАй бұрын
  • I am a Fedora Workstation user and I would recommend Zorin. It is a great intro to Gnome in general so if people like the concepts of Zorin but don't like the outdate stuff, they can just use another Gnome based distro and replicate what they like.

    @marufbepary100@marufbepary1004 ай бұрын
  • I have been using linux mint for daily driver for years, yesterday I tried Zorin OS 17, I think Zorin Os 17 is the best linux distro for 2023

    @gordangrgic7532@gordangrgic75324 ай бұрын
  • I would usually recommend Kubuntu over these two for new users, you get all the best parts of Ubuntu I think. As much as people recommend Mint I've often had cryptic problems installing it, or getting gfx drivers working properly and they aren't supporting Wayland yet as far as I know. Zorin is pretty slick though and may be a good option for those who are impressed by pretty desktops, but I feel Plasma over Gnome is a better option for traditional Windows users (Those who started out in the Win 95 - 7 era).

    @skorne7682@skorne76824 ай бұрын
  • Guess ii have to go try zorin on my old netbook.

    @NFvidoJagg2@NFvidoJagg24 ай бұрын
  • Thank You from other side of earth.

    @jani3253@jani32534 ай бұрын
  • The integrated file search alone would lead me to Zorin.

    @konradzuse4778@konradzuse47784 ай бұрын
  • What about performance and power consumption? Is there any difference?

    @Maisonier@Maisonier3 ай бұрын
  • another great video

    @user-vd7pg3fd4v@user-vd7pg3fd4v4 ай бұрын
  • I am really happy with LMDE, which is basically the same interface, but built on Debian rather than Ubuntu.

    @mhelmreich1@mhelmreich1Ай бұрын
  • Which OS has the most recent version of the Linux kernel ? I'm using new hardware: AMD Ryzen 9th gen Ryzen 9-6600 and discreet AMD 6650 video. Also would it benefit me to manually partition my installation of Zorin?

    @mr.wonderful4307@mr.wonderful43072 ай бұрын
  • I don't recommend distros anymore, what I recommend are desktops. Currently I suggest people try something with Cinnamon on it as it's an easy transition from Windows. These days that usually means Linux Mint. Zorin OS certainly looks slick, though.

    @mikefromwa@mikefromwa4 ай бұрын
  • I've been using Cinnamon Mint for two and a half years now after becoming terminally frustrated with Windows 7 and 10. If I get a spare computer to play with, I might try other distros--or if I get time to work with a virtual machine--but for getting work done, I'm sticking with Mint.

    @gregcampwriter@gregcampwriter4 ай бұрын
  • I would put MX Linux into the mix. And just for fun. Get 5-10 non-Linux users and let them test Mint, Zorin and MX. Then they should give the rating and opinion after: setting up the personal desktop environment, use some multimedia apps, check some of the personal daily important apps, do some file management (search, organize, transfer, ...)

    @andyspark5192@andyspark51924 ай бұрын
  • I'm on zorin 17 pro since end of December and I have to say that it is the best distro I have tried since I begin to use linux in 1998. It fast, stable and even if I'm more of a KDE user the gnome interface can be tuned with the same look or better than what I liked on KDE. I will keep Zorin on my laptop and it will stay there for a long time. Everything works and it's very stable, fast and good looking. No this distro is not only for linux beginner. Cudo to Zorin team for that nice distro. :=)

    @PerfMonk@PerfMonk3 ай бұрын
  • Used Mint for years, great simple to use distro. Just moved to Zorin and love it much the same and will be keeping it due to the native GPU drivers.

    @whosestone@whosestone2 ай бұрын
  • Recently bricked zorin, switched to mint for the snap shot feature. Probably my fault, but it’s a nice feature to have.

    @cyclepath2519@cyclepath25194 ай бұрын
  • I really like Zorin but the software manager is slow as hell, often hangs at 99% install and often just won't search at all. Not sure what I could be doing wrong. I have several older laptops (varying ages and brands) and they all have this problem, so I don't think it's a hardware-specific issue. I also dislike having to install and configure Samba on Zorin, in order to access my router's NAS drive. Mint has Samba installed but I still have to enable the older protocol for it to work.

    @nodak81@nodak814 ай бұрын
    • Also find Zorin to be a heavy OS as it comes with a lot of software pre-installed but most of it functions well nonetheless.

      @saltyabcdef3202@saltyabcdef32023 ай бұрын
  • what about LMDE? that is moving away from Ubuntu altogether and going back to Debian

    @owenwilsonjunior@owenwilsonjunior4 ай бұрын
  • I'm still trying to get the cube to work no idea how after toggling the feature on?

    @aerotro@aerotroАй бұрын
  • As new user myself,i would go with zorinOS 100%

    @Sparkky07@Sparkky074 ай бұрын
    • I'd recommend giving Mint a try

      @anonymous_opinions1924@anonymous_opinions19244 ай бұрын
  • Would be interesting to see a Zorin vs PopOS comparison.

    @r3lativ@r3lativ15 күн бұрын
  • I didn't know that Zorin OS used Gnome Extensions to get their start menu and other Windows like features. I thought it was a customised version of Gnome the same as the old versions of Linux Mint Gnome used to be. Mint is better as when I used Zorin some years ago it did have some bugs. And if you want to use Gnome you can do that by installing the Ubuntu desktop on Linux Mint as I have done, Then installing Dash to Panel and Arc Menu in Gnome Extensions. Which gives you the Mint or Windows style taskbar and start menu.There is also a Zorin menu extension for Gnome but it does not work on the current versions of Ubuntu or Mint. So the Arc Menu is better and it works best with Dash To Panel Extension. Which moves the taskbar to either the top or bottom of the screen. Depending on your choice.

    @AndreaBorman@AndreaBorman4 ай бұрын
  • Zorin 16 xfce cold boot takes ~550m RAM. Zorin default software installed and configured are sufficient and no extra Zorin configuration tools are better managed and straightforward to use Zorin +1

    @np22973@np229733 ай бұрын
  • Which of both to not throw away a notebook with touch screen instead of using Chrome Os Flex?

    @oscard7256@oscard72562 ай бұрын
  • I love the simplicity and availability availability of Linux mint

    @deepchange2973@deepchange29734 ай бұрын
  • how about LMDE ?

    @AliYar-Khan@AliYar-Khan4 ай бұрын
  • Try to compare Big Linux. My grade 5 & 6 find Big Linux is very easy compared to Linux Mint & KDE neon. I haven’t ask yet their answer in Zorin is yet. I hope you can make a comparison between this and Big Linux in the future aside from my comparison as your fellow KZheadr.

    @rialbbe@rialbbe4 ай бұрын
  • If you switch Zorin over to use xfce, it’s even faster :)

    @n7ekg@n7ekg4 ай бұрын
  • TL;DR: Zorin OS is the way to go for a non linux user hands down. I started with Linux mint on some old hardware. The bios was 32 bit but the hardware was 64 bit. I could install Linux mint but could not boot. Turns out LM is only compatible with 64bit UEFIs. So now I need to modify GRUB using the boot CD. Well not if LM doesn't recognize your wifi card. Just update the wifi drivers manually? Drivers will not persist on a boot CD. I spent way to long trying to build my my own distro or modify GRUB. I did finally get it all working by buying a USB wifi that had compatibility with Linux Mint which allowed me to make changes to GRUB. After getting it all working which took weeks, I ran across a KZhead video on Zorin vs Linux Mint. I decided to try Zorin on another machine (exact same hardware) and it booted up on the first try and WiFi worked out of the box. Not to mention the UI looked polished when Linux Mint felt dated/under construction. Linux Mint is great, for Linux users. Zorin OS is great for non-Linux users.

    @Fluffywings84@Fluffywings844 ай бұрын
  • Last time I heard that zorin OS does anonymous pings to their server, I am not too sure if this is still the case?

    @johnnyblack4261@johnnyblack42614 ай бұрын
  • Hey man, how are you? Did you finish your college degree wasn't it in Computer Science?

    @williambaldwin9346@williambaldwin93464 ай бұрын
  • When comparing these two Distros and considering newer hardware compatibility, your best choice might be Mint Cinnamon EDGE. I just bought a new Mini PC with newer hardware such as Intel N100 and the WiFi would only work when I updated to the newest kernel. I wonder how Zorin would do in this scenario?

    @DistroUser@DistroUser4 ай бұрын
  • I love your reviews. But, please review how GTK *and* QT look and feel out of the box when reviewing a distro. Because nobody that seriously uses a Linux distro is using only GTK or only QT apps.

    @operius2385@operius23854 ай бұрын
    • Used zorin this fall, until it completely stopped update or install new software. Never happened me on any system before. Something with zorin turns me off as if they care more the surface then to have a sound system. And I hate that cold looking boring mountain picture.

      @bengtl.5017@bengtl.50174 ай бұрын
    • as for Mint, you get Qt settings so you can use whatever GTK theme you have installed on your system to theme Qt apps. as for Zorin - no clue

      @penguin2137@penguin21374 ай бұрын
    • @@penguin2137 It's Linux. You can make it whatever you want. These reviews are about the out of the box experience. A lot of times QT apps look like crap on a GTK based desktop. Not allways, but often. And I just don't understand how a distro can ignore how GTK or QT apps looks ootb. They are *the most* used toolkits on Linux distros for over 2 decades. But just to put it out there. Zorin did a great job. Both toolkits look great. Even when using flatpaks they look good. QT apps both native and flatpak use the gtk filepicker too. Offcourse QT apps will never look 100% like GTK apps on a GTK based desktop, and vica versa. But they made it look as good as it can get. Props to Zorin!

      @operius2385@operius23854 ай бұрын
    • @@operius2385 out of the box Qt apps in Mint should use the Mint default theme

      @penguin2137@penguin21374 ай бұрын
  • i started using linux ( mint ) in my relatively new ryzen 5 powered laptop in the start of this year ...and tried Ubuntu, pop os Debian etc. and came back to mint ..but lack of Wayland support and some other bugs forced to switch and finally settled down in Debian 12 and I'm very happy and i have very few problems.i mostly use Flatpak and i side load some .deb and app images also..till now i didn't have major hiccups and i learned how to tackle basic problems..if u ask me mint is great for beginners but if u want to do something more than basic computing activities it gives me some headaches and some time lot of software packages are not compatible or gives problems. And before 2 months I deleted my Windows 11 and i stopped dual booting and I'm daily driving Debian 12 now. And also I'm doing some programming/designing and switching to Linux gave me a lot of happiness. I'm switching back to mint since they announced Wayland support in the future..I will try when roll it on updates

    @je_suis_amor@je_suis_amor4 ай бұрын
    • Welcome to the old reliable Debian stable Linux path.

      @dorianxonic@dorianxonic4 ай бұрын
    • Nice choice imo. Debian is based.

      @anonymous_opinions1924@anonymous_opinions19244 ай бұрын
    • Really, the idea here is what's best for the average new user. You're in the above-average tech category with Linux. I'm high enough on the tech tree to understand everything you're talking about, and experienced enough to understand it's not my cup of tea. I'm divergent enough into "other purposes" to be gravitating to more of a less-tweaking-and-modifying-to-get-the-system-the-way-I-want-it-is-better mode. You talk about Wayland to newbies and they'll be expecting Willie and the boys to ride with them to Luckenbach, Texas.

      @k.b.tidwell@k.b.tidwell4 ай бұрын
  • Zorin 16.0 is based on Ubuntu 20.04. However, Zorin 16.2 is based on Ubuntu 22.04. I think Zorin 17 will get the same treatment.

    @khoanguyen0001@khoanguyen00014 ай бұрын
    • Isn't that super outdated now?

      @Loathsome_Lynx@Loathsome_Lynx4 ай бұрын
    • 16.2 still 20.04 base, but does utilise 22.04 kernel (or bits of!). 17 is 22.04 base totally. But the gnome is older than Ubuntu 22.04, but is heavily adapted functionally.... Be safe.

      @jimacklaw@jimacklaw4 ай бұрын
  • I've been a huge Linux Mint fan for years but I have to say I'm loving Zorin OS. I'd have to give it the edge at this point. I think it offers a better out of the box experience and the app installation is a bit better experience. Huge win for Zorin on the UI side. The only thing Mint could do to beat Zorin at this point is offer a KDE version again. 99% of people do NOT need support for the latest hardware and do NOT need the latest version of Gnome. I honestly do not know a single person ever who has installed Zorin OS or Mint on a thread ripper running a 4090. Most people will be installing either of the distros on 5+ year old hardware. At this point you cannot go wrong with either distro.

    @dragonballjiujitsu@dragonballjiujitsu4 ай бұрын
    • Am just trying to understand. You can install KDE desktop environment in mint right? What difference it's gonna make if Mint offers a KDE desktop along with cinnamon, mate & xfce? Cinnamon is very decent enough. This is just my view.

      @viveksreedharan88@viveksreedharan884 ай бұрын
    • I have a Ryzen 7 and a 3070ti and i Actually had some problems on alot of distros because they specifically didnt support 'new' hardware (despite it being years old still) wasn't very fun to try and install so many distros then finding out it's literally a hardware issue(kinda)

      @ninjameep8616@ninjameep86163 ай бұрын
    • @@ninjameep8616 Genuine question: What exactly are you gonna do on that system? I mean, gaming on Linux sucks and video editing is a joke unless you have one of the few distros you can trick into running resolve. Seems to me that anything over a mid-range core i7 and 16GB of RAM is just a waste.

      @dragonballjiujitsu@dragonballjiujitsu3 ай бұрын
  • Hey thx for the great Review, I also tryed mint ant Zoron. For Me is Zorin the best Distro, because it‘s most polished and modern looking 😊 Where did you get the wallpaper from your Mint OS ? It looks very clean and calm 😊 can you share it?

    @home-of-the-brave@home-of-the-brave4 ай бұрын
    • Zorin is literally Ubuntu with a gnome extension called dash to panel.

      @r1ftzy@r1ftzy4 ай бұрын
  • I have used Linux Mint from late 2016 and I have tried a lot of different distros on my spare laptop. I still haven't found any that would beat Mint. Zorin... well that's one I haven't tried yet. Maybe I will, one day, out of curiosity. EDIT: The only distro I've planned to switch to is LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition). But, lets watch the video till the end.

    @OldieBugger@OldieBugger4 ай бұрын
    • Hi! Linux Mint Debian Edition looks and feels almost identical to Ubuntu based releases. I had used LMDE for quite some time, but after noticing that some of my USB Wi-Fi adapters "stopped working", I switched back. Debian stability comes with a price. Hardware compatibility is my top priority. P. S. I really miss KDE versions of Linux Mint. Those looked way better and worked faster than infamous Aero. However I'm glad the LM dev team focused on Cinnamon 👍.

      @t.v.9696@t.v.96964 ай бұрын
    • I started with Mint back in 2014, and I've hopped over forty distros, and now I'm back on Mint. I ran Zorin 16 a short while a couple years ago, and I'm going to give this one a go again. I did run LMDE5 and 6 for a little bit, but moving to a twin version of Mint that's less put-together hasn't made sense to me yet. I'll try it again when LMDE comes out of the box as completely setup with minimal tweaking like Mint already is. The faint chance that Ubuntu will go under isn't enough of a reason to switch and put up with even more distractions from my work than I have now, lol, and the morality of whatever Canonical is doing right now this week isn't even worth wasting time thinking about. If Canonical's doings is the high moral hill on which people chose to die, then those people need to reevaluate their priorities.

      @k.b.tidwell@k.b.tidwell4 ай бұрын
    • @@t.v.9696 I wouldn't notice that. I distrust all wireless crap so I have all the cables ready. I just want to have my network connection to be snappy, not like wifi that can have soggy delays and stuff. I have tried to use that and I didn't like what I saw.

      @OldieBugger@OldieBugger4 ай бұрын
  • Mint to try first and get acquainted with Linux, MX as the second distro when you already get used to Linux and realise you didn't like Mint

    @penguin2137@penguin21374 ай бұрын
  • great video. zorin is most modern

    @nahuelasc1@nahuelasc1Ай бұрын
  • I feel like mint is more like the windows 7 we know and love where zorin is more like windows 10 with a more updated UI look and feel. Obviously they both are independent of windows but that's just what comes to mind if you're trying to do a comparison or transition.

    @NoahHeadglitch@NoahHeadglitch2 ай бұрын
  • As long as Zorin lets me install games from GOG offline... Then so be it.

    @SkyFly19853@SkyFly198534 ай бұрын
  • I've been using Ubuntu since 2014 ... I like zorin 17 because really, its the Ubuntu that Canonical should have done. I'm using it as a daily driver and does all that Ubuntu 23.10 does. At 6gb, I thought Ubuntu must be joking so I shall keep using Zorin 17.

    @theadoresmith2777@theadoresmith2777Күн бұрын
  • @15:30 - What does the smartphone connectivity actually entail? Is it more than just file transfers (which is all Mint's Warpinator does)?

    @ogrejd@ogrejd4 ай бұрын
    • The KDE Connect app does the Warpinator stuff but it also lets you completely mirror your phone on the computer so that you can actually run phone apps on your display, text, etc. all of your phone stuff. It's very comprehensive, and really probably much more than anyone needs since your phone is probably right there with you anyway. It is nice to do your texting with your keyboard, but it's not convenient enough for me to enjoy the constant notification interruptions lol. (You can turn all that off, but then...what's the point?)

      @k.b.tidwell@k.b.tidwell4 ай бұрын
  • If Windows OS users want to jump onto Linux, they simply cannot go wrong with Zorin OS 17. It has a VERY familiar layout. Windows OS users will feel right at home (mostly). The UI and UX have been intentionally kept VERY similar or nearly identical to Windows 10. Mint OS seems to be geared towards Linux Users who want a reliable Desktop or Laptop and are fairly familiar with Linux as an Operating System. Zorin OS 17 has come a LONG WAY in terms of multiple Optimizations, Tweaks, and Smoothness. It is highly polished but not restrictive. It is somewhat curated but does not limit users. Windows OS users looking to shift can EASILY and QUICKLY get onboard the Linu train with Zoring OS 17.

    @alap1983@alap19833 ай бұрын
  • Thanks + Gracias x 1,000,000

    @williamruy9350@williamruy93503 ай бұрын
  • Zorin is by far the best distro that matches my laptop's hardware.

    @Lapidario_@Lapidario_26 күн бұрын
  • Very good and balanced review, although it should be taken into account how this reccomendation will change when Mint 22 releases next year, while Zorin will be stauck on 22.04.

    @Blueeeeeee@Blueeeeeee4 ай бұрын
  • Be aware that the price for the premium version has gone up, from $39 to $49. Also if you're running Zorin OS 16 premium, you can't upgrade to 17 yet, it will be weeks before you can do that.

    @jpmyers6950@jpmyers69504 ай бұрын
    • I noticed that they used to charge sales tax on top of the $39 whereas now it's included in the new price, so it's not much of an increase

      @MrJohnSteeves@MrJohnSteeves4 ай бұрын
  • I think i'll wait until Zorin 18 or 19 before i switch from windows

    @that_guy1211@that_guy12113 ай бұрын
  • Thanks, it got more useful at the end. Every Linux review spends 50% + of the time banging on about trivial tweaks to the interface. The real problem is the ability to run commercial applications, the availability, how to find and install/uninstall them, where they get installed, drivers, running windows applications..this stuff is REALLY hard to understand to new users...and that 'Terminal,' stuff is a massive turn off.

    @sirrodneyffing1@sirrodneyffing13 ай бұрын
  • this day in history I celebrate 21 years of that very same question 😃

    @AhmedFaisal13@AhmedFaisal134 ай бұрын
    • I didn't knew Mint and Zorin are 21 year old wow

      @dermond@dermond4 ай бұрын
    • @@dermond LOL for sure they aren't, even their base. ubuntu, is not that old 😄the question I meant is "what is best for new users". I used Redhat 9 (not RHEL, just Redhat) and Mandrake Linux (long dead, inherited by Mandrava then Open Mandrava).😊

      @AhmedFaisal13@AhmedFaisal134 ай бұрын
  • I find mint to be my go to, I think Zorin 17 is nice but mint just works better for me.

    @scottfread2130@scottfread2130Ай бұрын
  • Would switching to the Liquorix kernel eliminate issues with new hardware compatibility in Zorin? Or really, just installing a newer stock kernel?

    @k.b.tidwell@k.b.tidwell4 ай бұрын
  • In gone cold Turkey installed Linux mint Debian

    @tridens6708@tridens670813 күн бұрын
  • I've been seeing a lot about this "Desktop Cube", and i can't help but feel it's a bit useless? As a windows user, i just use one workspace, i don't get why microsoft makes it so you can have more, and i really can't understand why people use it

    @that_guy1211@that_guy12113 ай бұрын
  • Escape from Tarkov is the only thing keeping me on windows 10. This is the most aggravating thing.

    @_Epictetus_@_Epictetus_Ай бұрын
  • Do you recommend any alternative to itunes (any free iphone manager) like syncios or 3utools on windows?

    @thechicotube96@thechicotube964 ай бұрын
  • Just seeing BLANK screen??? where is video?

    @davidthiel483@davidthiel4832 ай бұрын
  • How is the support if you run into a problem? Is it better on Zorin Core or on Linux Mint? Off topic: Do the software stores provide Firmware updates? Discovery on KDE does.

    @johanb.7869@johanb.78694 ай бұрын
    • Mint does, with Fwupd, but only on UEFI systems. Zorin I don't know, haven't tried

      @istvantorok4819@istvantorok48194 ай бұрын
  • Ive given Zorin to all my home users. Never had an issue. Ive given Mint to all my business customers. Never had an issue.

    @AdventureSMBW@AdventureSMBW2 ай бұрын
    • Why not Zorin for business users too?

      @GigAero@GigAero2 күн бұрын
  • i think a linux that not looks like windows is the best for ppl who comes from windows (me included) i tested mint it was a bit for 3weeks ... no comment after it i reinstalled again win11 :D i tested zorin is was it 16 idk anymore ... it was okayish but again too win11 :D i tested arch linux done windows get format from ssds after 3 days bcz. arch is for me maximum flexibility and adaptability;D and at the moment after 2 nearly 3 months, i love arch linux with gnome distro plasma kde so much i lought everyday at shut the pc down i turn of my bt headphones it needs 4 sec and linux is everyday 2 seconds faster :D btw. iam a gamer so mint and zorin was really bad at fps of my games and arch is better then windows thats why i am at arch instead of ubuntu :D

    @romangregor4552@romangregor45524 ай бұрын
  • Zorin is beautiful but there's just something great about that old fashioned look of Mint that I Iike more

    @Tucanazo69@Tucanazo694 ай бұрын
  • Mint with respect!!!!

    @kakhabersanikidze9410@kakhabersanikidze94104 ай бұрын
  • I would install mint on my main computer and zorin for tech illiterate family members with older computers

    @noodlery7034@noodlery70343 ай бұрын
  • I plan on running zorin os in vm on my server, just need to work out rdc from Windows to the vm

    @paulfrayne6519@paulfrayne65194 ай бұрын
  • My stripped down KDE desktop boots up at 400 mb of ram. :) Between these two however, i still prefer mint. But personally i run Debian wherever i can.

    @matthewmoore757@matthewmoore7574 ай бұрын
    • Would be great to see LMDE KDE version again.

      @dragonballjiujitsu@dragonballjiujitsu4 ай бұрын
  • Zorin is OK but can‘t compete against Apple. MX Linux is nice too. No recommendations for Fedora to many trouble and to many updates.

    @pmue437@pmue4374 ай бұрын
  • From what I understand, Linux Mint comes with an old kernel and can be updated, in Zorin could the kernel also be updated? Or does it break something in the system?

    @InsideVK@InsideVK4 ай бұрын
  • I also find Zorin 17 to be really good! I think Mint might be the better all-round “Linux” system, but Zorin does a better job of making things work for someone coming from Windows. I’ve recently uploaded a video on Zorin 17 providing more of my thoughts. kzhead.info/sun/aM5spa1pq4tulnk/bejne.htmlsi=_Xo_9sPWr5rmIYB8

    @PlanetLinuxChannel@PlanetLinuxChannel4 ай бұрын
  • I try distros regularly, Zorin is King.

    @tedus9773@tedus97734 ай бұрын
  • Zorin all the way! Better interface, better features like Zorin connect, and best of all they support the Snap store because they are not snobs who must think for you, the main reason why I switched from Windows. Last but not least the jelly window animation feature is pure eye candy 👁️👁️

    @MetalMugger@MetalMugger3 ай бұрын
  • I use arch btw

    @HarshitSingh-so1cp@HarshitSingh-so1cp4 ай бұрын
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