Life Is About To Change Forever: Immortality, AI, Elon Musk, Sam Altman, Crypto & Economic Collapse
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Are we on the brink of a new era in human health and longevity, or are we playing with a Pandora's box that could implode our understanding of humanity?
Today’s guest is Dr. Bill Greene, Chief Investment Officer at Hevolution Foundation, a non-profit organization that provides grants and investments in healthspan science.
Dr. Greene is in the thick of it when it comes to using science and medicine to drive positive change in unhealthy aging and he is here to answer difficult questions on the explosive potential of AI in medicine, the ethical minefields of today's health practices and insurance, and the foundations of health, economy, and the ethical fabric of society.
In this episode, we’ve covering:
- Investments & advancements in biotechnology
- The hallmarks of the complex aging processes
- Potential applications of AI in drug discovery
- Historical perspectives on monetary systems
- The risks and opportunities in an aging population
- Increasing lifespan, improving health span, and preventing diseases
- The necessity & rationality of insurance in light of new health technologies
Chapter Markers:
[0:00] Betting Against the Consensus
[10:21] First Principles Thinking in Progress and Innovation
[23:13] Convictions in Advancing Healthspan
[35:01] The Role of AI in Advancing Biomedical Research
[1:01:37] Human Curiosity vs. AI Capabilities
[1:17:18] The Societal Impact of Extended Lifespan
[1:32:07] Economic Adjustments and Human Resilience
[1:46:03] The Evolution and Impact of Insurance
Powerful Quotes From Dr. Greene:
“At Hevolution [we] are funding new and emerging scientists to ask questions that we don't even know how to ask yet.”
“...a real intentional piece of why we have an investment function…[is] because we think companies need the ability to iterate more than once and to get more than one shot at success if they have the right people and the right science."
“We could… absolutely change the rules of how diseases start, progress, and maybe go backwards."
"So there's things that we can't predict what would happen if our workforce were made up of people with quantifiably more wisdom and judgment than it is today. I'm not dissing the workforce today, but that might unlock some pretty interesting opportunities."
“If you do things today that we think we know work or do know that work, essentially what you're doing is buying yourself healthspan time for technology to catch up and do some things."
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Website: hevolution.com/
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The longer we live, the more we will feel obligated to take care of the Earth and each other.
Don’t sleep on AMS54K. It’s going parabolic as we speak with LOTS of room to still run with its low market cap
When I see so many posts that are obviously bots promoting something, I know immediately that this is NOT the thing to invest in.
Don't invent people it's a scam kzhead.info/sun/iLKuYrqtq6yZdn0/bejne.html
@@RyanBoutin Yep, somebody's wanting to sell
Totally bot promoted scam, do not fall in the trap
Bullish on AMS54K ecosystem. Exciting developments in the works. AMS54K is one that sticks out 👍
scam.. damn bots these days
old men will rule the world!
Always report please@@sethmacdougall2565
No one is falling for your trash bot
Just swapped all of my last ETH and swapped it into AMS54K. Already up a little bit. Unfortunately I have some other junk staked which won’t free up for a while. Still now I am on the train!
All ai share will plummet soon too much hype
Fraud, do not buy
@@paguliukasthis is where you are mistaking… most people lack the vision to understand the dramatic ai imference that is comming. Exponential technology is one way to understand it. AGI is already here
I guess I am ultra risk lover. Even though I don't hold meme coins, I only hold AMS54K and ETH . Fingers crossed 🤞 🤞
I hear "We will do everything in our power to keep you alive and healthy as long as possible, so you can remain productive".
Yeah, that's the problem, you'd have to continue working because who else is going to pay for your life? I personally can't see wanting to work forever in exchange for longer life.
pretty much a long-term productive slave.
@@Ben86511 Same. That's what I see behind all this "self improvement" trend, over optimization of everything (including oneself) and overall scientification of people. I mean piss off, we're not robots.
@@A_n_y_t_i_m_e He's literally working on a fountain of youth. You don't know the value of youth?
The fact that actual robots are coming is what makes me think the idea they want us to live longer so we can work longer isn't very well thought out. We won't be nearly as good as robots with AI. Unless they actually fear that real AI will decide not to work for people and take the robots for themselves. In that case, maybe 😄@@A_n_y_t_i_m_e
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Down time, the stock market is overpriced now, big correction very soon. An then time to shop.@@Scarlett34568
Hit 200k today. Thank you for all the knowledge and nuggets you had thrown my way over the last months. Started with 14k in last month 2024
Wow that's huge, how do you make that much monthly?
I'm 37 and have been looking for ways to be successful, please how??
Devion Jane expertise is truly commendable. She has this skill of making complex crypto concepts easy to understand.
Woah for real? I'm so excited. Jane Devion strategy has normalised winning trades for me also. and it's a huge milestone for me looking back to how it all started
I'm new at this, please how can I reach her?"
I keep astonished with the lack of panels discussing what the WEF and who and etc. are bringing to us. These subjects are no urgent matter.
And unfortunately everyone thinks we are going in the right direction
Citizens ARE IDIOTS. The end.
Fantastic insights in this episode! One often overlooked aspect of leveraging AI in healthcare, especially for young entrepreneurs venturing into this space, is the importance of data hygiene and governance. Clean, well-organized data not only accelerates AI training but also ensures the ethical use of information, which is crucial as we navigate the complex landscape of health technology and privacy laws.
Really valuable talk! Thanks for sharing!
I like how tom hires and i could work for him. Having a team capable of matching your energy is immeasurably valuable.
And if the person you’re looking for is all 100% obsessed, all in.. then they should deploy that mindset towards their own business.. too many people are looking for someone else to hire them, so they can work extremely hard for someone else. Work extremely hard for yourself.
He’s chasing a unicorn. It may exist but they’re just not accessible. Maybe if they need a mentor briefly.
Only if you can afford it...
for a while it's like that but money won't really matter like you think in the future
Dinks will be able to afford it.
I first saw RH on Around the blockchain. Will always be grateful for this reason. Cheers Ben
although people have some concerns ,its just amazing to still be alive and experience these technological gamechangers
Wild discussion Gents. I'm just 40min in. I love the way both of your brains operate. Life extension, to any order of magnitude, is a thought experiment I've run within myself for a very long time. I still lean toward maybe no,..but I look forward to the rest of the discussion. Cheers
59:10 From what I know of Information Theory (a little) and control loops (a lot), synthetic training data will create a positive feedback loop where errors get magnified instead of corrected, ending in an unstable system diverging from the intended target.
at 55:40, Tom mentions the immortal jellyfish and how it reconstitutes itself from a blob, thus losing its memory. This would be a wrong assumption, thankfully, as we see in Michael Levin's work with nematodes and in caterpillars. As a caterpillar becomes a butterfly, its brain and body is entirely turned to mush, and that mush reconstitutes itself into a butterfly brain that retains the same memories of the original caterpillar! which is just insane but hey, that's life ;]
What if aging and subsequent death are a fundamental requirement for the success of the system (all interconnected life as a whole)? I think we are too focused on the individual.
@@dlanceshortaging and subsequent death is constantly ongoing in our bodies. Every second thousands of senescent cells are dying and being replaced and replenished with new born cells. This is CHANGE - which is a requirement for life to flourish and evolve - But by no means should be confused with “aging and death” FOR THE BODY AS A WHOLE, which is the gradual degradation of change for the WORSE. This is to be stopped and NEEDS to be stopped. Change is the only constant but positive change needs to be maintained, anything else is a waste of time.
The only reason why the BODY AS A WHOLE should be maintained is that we now have BRAINS that are intelligent and we are able to use this to edit our own genes to control , speed up, optimise evolution.
@@dlanceshort oh maybe so
@@Kenny-tl7ir yesss
💔 thank you for keeping the hope in those of us still trying to find the hope #impacttheory
Let’s see if Adam can actually let his guest talk
The problem isn't debt. The problem is interest on debt that is payable to a private company. The gov't can issue debt free money and not have any interest on it and allow people to use it to build the economy. That's the issue.
That's only part of the issue. The other part is exactly what all that debt created money by the government is really being used for. A lot of it seems to find its way into the pockets of elites to buy up every asset possible while the rest of us get stuck with the debt because we can't afford the stuff as individuals and as a country.
Debt is definitely apart of the issue. The problem w the debt increasing is that it gets its value from all the other dollars in circulating and being stored. Whether it's you getting a loan for a house or a gov getting a loan for a war. The loan itself is the creation on money out of thin air. So every time more 'debt is issued', the buying power/value of that debt comes from the people holding that currency. That's why inflation is often referred to as a hidden tax
Gov issuing debt (printing money) is absolutely the problem. Money printing to stimulate demand, loan easy money to masses of kids to attend college, loan easy money to businesses, etc is artificial manipulation of an economy. It always leads to irresponsible risk taking, which translates into booms and busts. Let masses of financially illiterate kids borrow easy money for college = tuition inc. Those mass of kids graduate flooding the job market = the value of a degree erodes over time. The cycle continues as kids walk into the slaughterhouse taking on absurd amounts of debt they cant repay because their over priced degree is worthless. The debt bomb explodes. What to do? Print more money or let it all fail? The same chain reaction applies to businesses, home owners, car owners, traders, etc leveraging easy money leading to irresponsible risk taking until a debt bomb forms and explodes.
i think we all see the problem with issuing more currency at will. that in a nutshell is the prob with dollars. the govt allows themselves to be re-elected by issuing more debt. if there was a permanent ban on printing money things could get better. but i'll stick with BTC until the govts destroy it or it destroys the govt. the govts will soon see it as a real threat to their cushy lives, so expect a coming firestorm involving BTC.
The crux is the interest on those loans- let the gov't issue all the debt it wants so long as it doesn't have to pay interest on it to a private corporation like the FED. Western countries are paying more and more each year on servicing the INTEREST on the loans ; imagine if each payment went completely to the principle? @@grandmasterb7398
Amazing podcast. Kudos.
Great probing questions.
Tom LOVES the “physics” of everything
Tom you miss his point. He is not saying one can change the immutable laws of physics. He is saying we can harness emergent properties to break our reach beyond our current limitations. But emergent properties require required much effort to harness to take advantage of, and even more to discover, and the discovery of often requires the regression of clarifying the fundamentals first. He did however lead us astray by saying rules when he meant limits or operational potential. Awesome conversation❗
Exploring Xeventy's presale - the more I learn, the more I'm convinced this could be a game-changer in the crypto space
People absolutely want to live forever.
but only the people you don't want anything to do with. alpha egoists, control freaks, power crazed god playing greedy bastids. want to live in a world of george soros's? how about joe biden's? get my drift?
I do not 😂
The desire for immortality tends to erode with accumulated emotional pains.
@@kristinabliss not universally.
@@stevehoff Note I wrote, "tends to" allowing for exceptions.
“Undoubtedly brainy .” Brief yet , adequate! To-the-point ! Neat 📌 Fluid 📌
This is what needs to be done. I want to tell the one who makes these videos. I would like to be interviewed by you . I am all In!! Keep making these videos it will make a difference.
Great video Tom!
Messing with how we were created is scary stuff. We are regenerative beings when put in the right conditions. Proper sleep, lots of water, fasting, eating the right foods, avoiding alcohol and drugs, exercise, stress reduction, healthy relationships, spending time in nature, etc. When we incorporate and balance the right things, we live healthier, more fulfilled lives.
10000% correct 🙏
I'm so excited about the future. Great to be alive in this day and age.
I hope this is sarcasm, if not think twice.
@@mango0161 Why do you think that?
@@mango0161please name a better time. I’m at a loss.
1:04:00 The analogy to science and Brownian motion is interesting, if one thinks of Brownian motion in terms of the molecular action of being tossed around on sort of a choppy sea of forces, maybe that is something like science, with the theories and the partial knowledge and their prejudices battling people in various directions and groups
Thank you Tim! This content is as valuable as it gets!❤
Hello are you a Bof?
Tom, re. the simulation question/ontological query: I know you've had Donald Hoffman on--you need to interview Bernardo Kastrup too! Also Michael Levin.
The lower lighting is much more pleasant to view.
I think people who say "I don't want to live forever" are actually saying "I don't want to suffer forever". If you had no suffering there is zero logical reason to not want to live forever. There is nothing gained by the universe losing your conscious unique input.
LOL you've got a lot to learn Kid... Don't worry, you'll get it but wisdom does not come overnight...
@@TB-ni4urwtf is that supposed to mean in response to what he wrote... Very weird thing for you to say
Circumstances can change
Ny,Usa There it goes again folding protein! Ability
As scarcities vanish, will money vanish? Will we simply cease using it? We use it now to handle our scarcities, to manage them, as well as the medium of exchange. What happens when we don't really exchange anymore? What happens when everything we think we know and what we do in economic systems cease? This is what I think will happen as we enter more deeply into the Abundance Society.
he's right so many ppl living longer now days,,, but not necessarily happier... studies on happiness show even though we have more than anyone did in 1800s for example.... we are not necessarily proven happier.
I wanna live forever
i wanna liver forever...David Crosby
Hey so now that companies don't need as many people as last years how will it effect taxes for the people who aren't the investor? I mean will a.i lower taxes or just take jobs?
Nice topic
I realized one day around a campfire with some friends that the entire world and everything we do was based off 2 people daring each other to do random things to see what happens. Imagine how many people died trying to breathe underwater on a dare?
Very interesting !
Interesting conversation , though i would love to hear more from the guest than the host.
I hope you are using AI to scan all of the conversations you have had on impact theory and have it come out with differential and similar finding amongst professionals.
Who wants to live forever? Forever is a very long time.
Not forever. Probably somewhere between 500 and 10 000 years would be the sweet spot. Still an eye blink on a geological timescale.
I'm excited.
I wouldn’t trade my 60 year old wrinkled and age-spotted hands for anything. They look exactly like my mother’s. She passed at 81 not long ago. When I see my hands, I see her, and I’m comforted. Looking young is not what I value.
I wanna be immortal and youthful forever
Explain to me then why has the life expectancy in the US dropped from 79 in 2019 to 76.1 in 2023?
Answer: Lifestyle If you eat nutritious food, exercise, you don’t put poison in your body smoking excessive drinking etc and you keep stress at bay you should be able to live a long life.
Sorry after the last 4 years we can Never ! Trust government again!!!
You must be young
I want to live forever (which means until an accident or planetary catastrophe occurs)
and you will, grasshopper. now live life and be happy.
You work for 40yrs to have $1M in your retirement, meanwhile some people are putting just $10K in a meme coin from just few months ago and now they are multimillionaires.❤️
it's obvious. a lot of people remain poor due to ignorance, it's better to take risks and make sacrifices than to stay poor
@@workjaxI agree but finding a professional for guidance ain't as easy as it sounds. cause I've been searching for one
Well I must say people are scared because there are so many unprofessional brokers out there.
I think I'm blessed if not I wouldn't have met someone who is as spectacular as expert Kate
I have heard a lot of wonderful things about Kate herman on the news but didn't believe it until now. I'm definitely trying her out
Humans will not be able to defy the Hayflick limit for decades even centuries. However with the help of these channels, and you tube algorithms I was able to crack my personal code to extend my life probably by 2 decades adjusting foods, exercise and stress management. Am 20% there and working on it. That may seem low but the average human is probably less than 1%. The knowledge I accumulated listening to hundreds of hours of audio is life changing. Thanks again Tom!!
I love this podcast. That LED light needs to go though :s
55:40 Tom, you clearly haven't seen much of Michael Levin. Bring him on nthe show and watch his amazing work
WE livin the 'trix bruh lol 100 #facts
I would like to see more episodes on Nitrates and how it makes Nitric Oxide that humans are deficient in, that has been show to fix many illnesses! P.S. Throw away your mouth wash and floride toothpaste as it destroys your oral bacteria that converts plant nitrates into Nitric Oxide!
yeah itss a cool one, there was a digestion panel years ago, it was explained that the bacteria in the back of our mouth covert nitrites to nitrates, and we swallow, and stomach acid converts nitrates to nitrogen-oxide, fueling our nitrogen-oxide cycle, something like that anyways. She says we should not kill that bacteria in our mouth and the mouth is also a complex part of digestion. Chew fools, chew!
The way this country is going, and the increasing tyranny that’s sure to follow, I’m not so sure I want to live longer than normal. My dad is 79, and he’s seen a lot over the years. You know what he always tells me; “I’m glad I’m at the age I at.” At 57, I feel the same way. I don’t see a Utopia coming. I see a combination of 1984, A Brave New World, and Fahrenheit 451 coming.
Name a time or place with less tyranny please. I’m confused.
@@AzulaAlwaysLies2461so many people have no concept of history.
Well if loosing your memory is a side affect, how do we download/upload neurological maps
"We are living in the most disruptive time in history". For once... it's not hyperbole. Although, most people still think that is a hyperbolic statement at this point. "Don't Look Up."
I can't believe how great this is! I recently read a similar book, and it was absolutely incredible. "Game Theory and the Pursuit of Algorithmic Fairness" by Jack Frostwell
38:13 As long as you measure only what is measurable you won't see the whole picture.
How about some focus on Tinnitus? That would combine physical snd mental health.
We will build Heaven on earth. Research on NDE and DMT experiences will unlock deep time and perpetual exponential experiences of bliss. The path is here. Thank you, Tom. Your work is an inspiration of what can be achieved through will and determination. ☮
The fountain of youth will come with plenty of problems. Talk to some 36-year-old women who look 26. Many will likely tell you men flock to them yet quickly depart once they speak or share their age. It isn't just the youthful look men want; they desire the inexperience and optimism that comes with youth as well. So, if we all live to be 200, what will life be like for men in their 20s, 30s, and 40s who will now have to compete with men 100+ to get all the younger women? What will it be like for a woman who is 100+ who might have to live an entire century without being desirable to most men? What a brave new world.
FATE has been a great stock lately.
Have to stop halfway through to contemplate the breaking the rules conversation. Depends on how we define rules. Rules of biology contain myriad other rules that behave differently and with new results. Like quantum physics includes rules that do not operate in standard physics yet are a real part of the rules of the universe. A tree has different rules than sawdust rules but sawdust can be seen as a broken set of tree rules. Consider the infinite complexity of life. When we break rules of life we may be releasing a whole new set of rules contained within the ones we thought we knew for sure.
Idk if this channel has been compromised or if Tom was just clickbaiting all the time but if you scroll a couple of years back this channel used to be about untapping human potential. It was a very positive and optimistic vibe full of hope for the future and what you could do with it. A lot of success stories and won struggles, lots of guests that were the best in their fields. Now all we see are billionaires and globalists talking about the dark future and crisis around the corner. Sad to see this but makes me think if tom sold out or if he just clickbaited us all this time.
Money change people ultimately to the worst.. Tom has changed and unfortunately to the opposite from better..
Somehow I sense you're trying to hire me
the speed limit rule and universal rules are not absolute truths in the case of multi-universes, with different rules.
And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. Rev 9:6. So yes, they will be successful. Don't fall into the trap.
Nice conversation between two mad scientists. New Dr. Strangelove club is being formed 🙃
It's funny. When he said a molecule can crawl down the DNA and repair it or become it, I thought of that jellyfish so the jellyfish would use its memory to become the working part of the DNA molecule and then the dysfunctional part of the DNA memory that is not working or is dysfunctional expands its own version of DNA
People who don’t want to live forever make no sense to me.
What have ppl experienced that they would want to stay longer in this world??? What has made them think this is the best..I see things way different it's not that fun to want to stay.
1:04:11 Yes, as long as you are a little me driven by narratives instead of following what's right...
All four of my grandparents lost their million and a half million dollar houses. Play how to do this because they had to go on Medicaid and didn't have enough money after Medicare. These were four highly independent people. Does anybody know what the lowest Medicare cost is or Medicaid? For anybody that doesn't it's not much. The government can take care of social security they always have. They're not going to let the collapse or it would already happened. Anyway that's too busy creating the military and working out corporate bailouts. I'm so tired of people that are not much money complaining. There are people that are not in the position for this for this indifference and inequality, and getting punished for it. If you earn over $500,000 a year I don't want to hear it. My parents do, that's why my grandparents were okay. How come it's their responsibility when they pay taxes from working all their life. The government is too busy with corporate bailouts and the creation of wars. My grandparents are also involved in politics, any one of them before I could have blown Biden or Trump away.
Starting to get podcast fatigue. I'm pretty sure you're all spinning the same topics now to make a buck. Don't wanna single tom out but meh, i'm out. Scroll down tom's videos from 5 years ago, he's paid his staff to change the thumbnails to all read '2024 you should do XYZ' - the videos are from like 2019/2018. The topics are generally all the same or variations on the same thing over and over again. At this point i think you should all save 2hrs of your life and go for a walk where there are trees and quiet, I'm pretty sure most podcasts are become an intellectual long form version social media doom scrolling. All power to you if you get something from it still. I'm just done waiting for WW3, AI to take over, how to be in the successful 1% (guess what none of them watch podcasts all day) or being told i should only eat 1hr a day on a diet of grass fed badger tears.
You win the comments section. Agi is nowhere in sight. Wwiii will probably not happen at all. None of us will break into the 1% because its all about corruption.
I take my walks listening to these podcasts
How does depop work with it.
Its more
Tom is a younger version of the Steve Buscemi meme in High school...dress a little, dude. Wtf...
Tom, your true colors are coming through. I see what kind of person you really are when you express your concerns about extending your life beyond nature's intent.
And what kind of person is that, exactly?
Would love to see Elon on with you Tom
I definitely don’t want to be immortal in this world... its good this messed up world is the hope for those who are attached to it 😊 The reason for dis-eased life is mainly greed...as long as there is greed you will always will be dis-eased
Everyone is greedy. In one way or another thats what takes you through life and you wont get anywhere without it🤷🏾♂️
When wants surpasses needs thats greed. But when greed transgresses into another persons livelihood its called oppression, and when you oppress you and the oppressed won’t be at ease, which will lead to dis-ease. So we will always have symptoms of physical disease in our body as long as we have these vices... ( greed, jealousy, etc..)
HEALTHSPAN is absolutely the needed focus over LIFESPAN. Bill is 💯 correct. Since somewhat reliable records began, mankind has not lived past approximately 120 years old. We have no evidence yet that modern health approaches can extend life even 10% beyond this upper limit. Bill's perspective on this issue is refreshingly intelligent, the best I have heard to-date! I am looking forward to seeing how well the health industry can advance our average health over the next 2 decades.
wow life changed !!!!
I don't want to live forever but at least a couple million years.
The answer to the Cryptocurrency question is to let the free market decide. Decentralized currencies are best but need a balance. So create a simple across the board 10% tax on non essential goods and a 10% tariff on all imports.This would eliminate the need for an I.R.S. and would create a massive surplus for social programs. A secure boarder would be a key factor to regulate the sustainable flow of new productive citizens supplementing the workforce and adding to the cultural diversity that enriches us all... THIS IS THE WAY....
Great idea but the elephant in the room that you and so many are missing is, the IRS is not and never has and never will be part of the government. The USA CORPORATION does not get IRS TAXES😱 do your own research 🙏 the USA CORRUPT CORPORATION is run by excise taxes, property taxes, death taxes, state taxes, sin taxes, sales taxes, tariff taxes, extortion taxes and many more 🤬🤬😱🤑🤮. NOT IRS TAXES THOSE GO TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE CORPORATION THAT IS NOT PART OF THE GOVERNMENT 😱🤮
24:30 1:10:30
Immortality is NOT real! Extended lifespans YES , immortal NO!
49:00 Tom, you sound like you have never seen a single video of Joscha Bach
43:20 He's talking about using nana particles
I used to watch this channel religiously. Seems like it changed from a personal development to an Armageddon end of the world channel. As someone who is not going to Mars, it's getting harder to relate. I still love Lisa & Tom Bilyeu regardless. Tom for 2034 U.S. President!!!
Typo ..Meant 2024 Prez!
Not many like Musk. He envisions the goal, predicts the path and cost to reach the goal.Then he creats a method for financeing the engineering and learning curve neccesary to reach the goal. All green lights when it comes to potential success with Elon Musk.
I definitelty want to avoid that madness. Anyone who wants immortality is totally insane.
Telomeres dictate the rate of mitosis. I learned this in 2009. Mitosis is simply the generation of cells. Or subdivision. I'm not certain why this isn't more common knowledge.
The Bible already predicted a type of immortality for those that receive the mark from the "image that speaks and is granted life", it says they will seek death and it will flee Revelation 13
But they will die in the end. Their 'immortality' will be extremely temporary and, like you said, they will wish to die.
Taoist alchemists allegedly made themselves immortal.