Handloading the .22-250
2020 ж. 8 Шіл.
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We shoot several handloads through a Nosler custom M48 rifle with a Leupold scope. Check out and see how the rifle performed with our loads.
We shoot several handloads through a Nosler custom M48 rifle with a Leupold scope. Check out and see how the rifle performed with our loads.
My first hand loading was with a cheap ($100) Savage 110 and a cheap Bushnell ($39) scope. I was young & just back from VietNam, and had job that paid little. But, with 35.5 grains of DuPont (IMR) 4064 and any 55 grain bullet, the rifle would shoot sub MOA consistently. I was astounded. Fell in love with the 22-250 & have been ever since. Now 74 years old.
First of all thank you for watching and thank you for your service! It truly is an awesome cartridge and I have thoroughly enjoyed working with it over the years. it's amazing what a little handloading can do to increase your accuracy! Glad to hear from another 22-250 enthusiast! --Jeremiah
Paid Little: minimum wage $1.60 an hour take home pay $45 a week.
Thank you for your service my friend. Had an Uncle in Marines in Nam. Tough place to be. Back before any Vet assistance, and no PTSD, they just threw you boys in the fire, and you survived. Many more years to you.
Great video ! 22-250 has long been my favorite varmint caliber . Bull barreled m-77 ruger w/ redfield 6x18 will "get 'er done' !
Thank you very much! That rifle is certainly a shooter and the 22-250 is an outstanding cartridge! sounds like a sweet rifle to us!
Fell in love with the .22-250 years ago. My Savages are all 1:12 twist so I use Hornady 50 grain Superformance for GREAT results past 600 yards. I set up a used Savage for a buddy & on his first try he hit a golf ball at 304 yards...same twist, same ammo. Great rifles. Mine are the Axis II's. Great video, thanks!
I just got into the 22-250 caliber with a ruger american predator topped with a Leopold vx - freedom 4-12 x 50 along with Hornaday 55gr. varmint express and it preforms very well for a budget rifle. Thanks for the great video
Just got around to watching this video. Well done and nice shooting! The .22-250 is one of my favorite cartridges to reload and shoot.
Well thank you for your continued support and taking the time to watch! I appreciate the kind words and feedback. I have to agree with you I love the .22-250 It has always performed very well for me. --Jeremiah
My dad told me the 22-250 is a good coyote round shot his a few times and fell in love with it
It really is a great coyote round, I killed my first coyote with a 22-250 It has served me well ever since. It's a flat shooter and from an accurate rifle it's hard to go wrong with. Thanks for watching and taking the time to share your experience I feel it adds a lot of value to the comments section. --Jeremiah
Love the handloader TV. I have been reading the magazine for about 30yr.
Glad to hear you are enjoying the episodes! Thank you for your support and thank you for watching! if it wasn't for good folks like you we would not be able to maintain Handloader TV!
I have a Weatherby Varmint Master chambered in .22-250. I have been handloading with it for nearly thirty years. Accurate, consistent, and terminal best describes my experience with this gun and cartridge; fun to handload, fun to shoot. The only thing is, it's not a deer rifle and I don't hunt coyotes, or woodchucks where I live. So, other than occasional range trips from time to time, it spends most of its life in the safe.
Those Weatherby rifles are quite nice! I appreciate you taking the time to share your personal experience with the rifle and the cartridge. They are a lot of fun to shoot and handload for certainly one of my personal favorite. Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV You're welcome friend.
Just stumbled on your site. Very informative, and well made. I'm itchin' to get a Tikka 22-250. I guess I have to, since I already bought some Lapua brass....Nice shootin too...
let me be the first to welcome you and thank you for watching the videos the feedback is always appreciated! I am a huge 22-250 fan, I have harvested a lot of game with it over the years and enjoyed countless hours behind rifles chambered in 22-250. We had excellent results with Lapua brass it is still the best brass available on the market for precision rifle in my humble opinion. Good shooting and happy handloading! --Jeremiah
Awesome presentation awesome rifle thank you for what you do
We are very glad to hear that you enjoyed the video, it is a great rifle certainly a favorite of ours at the office. Every year we hold an annual "Company shoot" where all the employees get to go shooting on the company's dime and this Rifle is always there it's always a popular one. Thank you for watching and for all your support we appreciate it!
I’m glad you guys started up the KZhead channel, there’s not nearly enough precision handloading content on here. I’d love to see some wildcat cartridges! The 131 grain 25 cal Blackjack bullets look interesting, too.
We are glad that good folks such as yourself are interested in our content we appreciate you watching and the support! We agree there is not very much information available when it comes to precision reloading. There is also a lot of folks out there who are less than trustworthy and don't show results. We want to show you as much as we possibly can! We actually have a wildcat AR cartridge in the works at our gunsmith as we speak. Those blackjack bullets look very interesting and we would love to put them to the test!
Thank you, that was a fine video and got me excited to shoot my .22-250. My rifle is a T/C Encore, 24" Factory Heavy MGM barrel w/ 1:14" twist, Revolution thumbhole stock set, Leupold rings/base, and a Vortec Diamondback 3x13x42 scope. A humble little kit, but it has great promise. I'll start with Midway Dogtown 50gr. Hp & SP and IMR-4895 powder.
Thank you for watching! We are glad you enjoyed the video hopefully you got some good ideas for starting with your project! We have heard good things about MGM Barrels but have yet to put them to the test. Sounds like a good setup to us we've had good luck with both IMR-4895 and H-4895. The 22-250 cartridge truly is an awesome cartridge! Best of luck to you in your Handloading and shooting!
I have a Ruger Mdl 77 w/ heavy varmint barrel. I load the 40 gr max over 38.4 gr of varget averaging 4100 FPS. I am able to shoot .25 moa groups consistantly . Love this load. It is not often u find your accuracy node at the highest recommended charge/pressure.
That is very true it is quite rare to find an accuracy node at the top end of the velocity spectrum. Do you get any pressure signs? The accuracy of your load is outstanding.
@@HandloaderTV I have not ever shown flat primers nor have I had extraction problems. Fired cases fit easily back into chamber. Love your channel!
@@rootintootinshootinreloadi6345 That's awesome sounds like a good load to us. Thank you glad you like it we do our best to provide high quality content and provide information you can trust just like our magazines.
After months of debating on buying I finally bought a bergara B-14 Hunter in 22-250. 1:9 twist and I have a vortex venom 5-25x56 mounted on it. Can’t wait to start putting hand loads through it. I’ve got 3 different powders to try. Hodgdon Superformance, Varget and H380. 60gr vmax will be my go to but I want to see what I can’t achieve with Berger 75-80 gr bullets. Would love to see some more videos on the 22-250 to help us newbies get into reloading!
I do have access to this Nosler Rifle in 22-250 Remington and it is a very accurate rifle. Sadly it will probably be some time before we get around to doing another video on this rifle or any other rifle chambered in 22-250 just due to the amount of other projects we have in the works however if we get enough requests we could certainly revisit it in the future. I would highly suggest checking out Handloader Magazine and LoadData.com as well there is plenty of information on there about the 22-250 and it is all real world tested and published data. Subscribing to either is also a great way to support the channel and what we do here. Thanks so much for the feedback and taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTVI second a big request for more 22 250 videos and especially deer hunting reloads, as here in Texas, the 250 is a staple caliber for deer and hogs.
Great shooting! My set up is; Remington 700 BDL, 1/14 twist, 55gn Vmax. Bruce Hodgdon's original load the powder was named after is, H-380. exactly 38.0 gns. 3,650fps and consistent sub MOA. Varmint killer out to 500 plus yards.
It is hard to beat H-380 it is an awesome powder for the 22-250! It is always nice to hear what other people are using and shooting thanks for sharing!
I can't believe I've never seen this channel before and I pretty much only watch gun/reloading channels... Just subbed!!! I think in this day and age the 22-250 doesn't get the love it should. I think it's because of all the more modern 22cal cartridges out there. I've always been a huge fan and will always be a huge fan... Great video brother keepem coming!!!
We are very glad that you found us and that you enjoyed the content! Thank you so much for subscribing! It is difficult to get noticed on KZhead and we are counting on others to spread the word. I agree in full with you and that is partly why this is one of the first videos we did. It really is a great cartridge and it is certainly still relevant today. Thank you so much for the kind words and thank you for watching! -- Jeremiah
One cartridge/rifle combo video I'd love to see profiled is the 338 Marlin Express. The cartridge is a potent little powerhouse out of my 20" barrel. Doing a video on a rifle with a 24" barrel would be a real gem! Anyway, just a thought for future video material, though I know you're seriously backlogged with planned videos.
We are always backlogged but folks making suggestions certainly helps push projects to the front of the line! I always like to hear what others want to see and what our viewers are interested in, so thank you for the suggestion! I do not have a .338 Marlin express but it is certainly something I can add to the list. At any rate thanks for the suggestion and for all of the support! --Jeremiah
Luepold scopes are the best scopes money can buy my leupold vx freedom 3x9x40 is beat up and still works
I too am personally a big fan of Leupold scopes and we use them quite a bit on the channel. My personal Coyote rig is a .223 with a Leupold VX Freedom 4-12X40 with the T MOA reticle for $200.00 I don't think you can find a better scope.
@@HandloaderTV i got mine for the same price there bud $200 on my $1000+ AR-15
@@edwardabrahamiii3742 That is awesome! It is pretty hard to beat at that price point especially with Leupold's warranty! Thank you for watching and for commenting!
Very underrated round
Indeed it is an excellent cartridge with great potential and with faster twist rates is capable of launching the longer heavier bullets as well.
Awesome round but don’t know that it’s necessarily underrated. It is outstanding in its field and very popular and well known
I've shot a lot of rifles and a lot of different calibers. I bought a winchester model 70 22 250 stealth it's one of the most accurate rifles I have ever shot. It loves 55 gr vmax with 38gr h380
People forget that the 22-250 was a match winning cartridge back in the day it is an outstanding cartridge, some of the most accurate rifles I own are chambered in 22-250. That is the iconic go to load! Thanks for watching and thank you for sharing your experience!
Great episode, terrific cartridge. I learned one of my most interesting rifle/handloading lessons with the 22-250. Briefly, two How's 1500 rifles, same powder, brass, primer and charge weight. Two 55grn bullets, one a Nosler Ballistic Tip and the other a Sierra BlitzKing. My rifle shoots both well, my brother's rifle shoots the Nosler very well but throws the Sierra's a full four inches out to the 11 o' clock position. One of the fascinating things about guns and handloading. Every gun is individual and some are snarky little buggers.
Thank you very much glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching! That is very interesting our test rifle did not like the 55 gr Sierra Blitzking either very poor accuracy and threw shots as well. However it did like the ballistic tips and Berger bullets as well. They truly are individuals but the experimentation is what keeps things fun and interesting! Perhaps we can revisit the 22-250 with a fast twist barrel and shoot some of the heavier bullets.
I’m in the Midwest, hunt coyotes only at night with flir pts536 mounted on a bergara hmr. Lapua brass, 35.5 gr of varget and 53 gr vmax at 3680 fps. It’s almost like I’m cheating.
Varget is a great powder very similar to the Shooters World Precision Rifle powder we used in this video great stuff and it's always nice to hear what others are using and having success with. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
Nice video brother
Thank you very much for the kind words and taking the time to watch and comment!! --Jeremiah
With the 1 in 14" twist rate, I was surprised you didn't get keyhole patterns with the 62-grain bullet. I ended up with keyhole patterns on paper in 2017 at 100 yards when I tried the Hornady 60-grain bullet, if I remember correctly. I bought the rifle used at a gun show in 2008 and I never loaded any bullets heavier than 55 grains and it always shot groups under .50". I tried the heavier bullets, and surprise! That's when I found out that the rifle had a slow twist rate. I will be replacing the barrel with a 1 in 9" twist rate in the near future.
I do believe the 62 grain bullet is on the edge of stabilization but so far It has remained stable at various distances. It is a go to bullet of mine for the slower twist rates in this cartridge because they will generally stabilize even in a 1:14 and you can get some pretty impressive velocity with them in the 1:14 twist barrels. A fast twist 22-250 is on my to do list hopefully we will get around to that one day! Thank you so much for watching and happy loading to you good sir!
Same here, My Ruger M77-V, 1-14 twist would not stabilize a 62 grain bullet.
My ruger m77 tang safety bull barrel couldn't hit the side of a barn with the 62gr but 55gr under a minute..
Bergara is the only gunmaker that offers the .22-250 with a one in 9" twist and 26 inch barrel. So, I got one on order. I am looking to load 70 grain rounds and heavier if the cartridge can handle it.
Bergara makes some very nice rifles!! I am a big fan of the ones they are putting out. That sounds like a great plan to me, I wouldn't be surprised if you are able to stabilize bullets in the 80 grain range as well with that twist rate, of course bullet length also plays a big factor in stabilization. Thank you so much for watching and commenting best of luck to you in your adventures with the 22-250! --Jeremiah
I have the Bergara B14 HMR in 22-250, it`s a beauty, i shoot 52gr ELD-M in 1011m/s and it groups like hell, even at 400 meters.
@@fredrikottesen1480 Those Bergara rifles are quite nice I have been most impressed with them and 22-250 cartridge as well both are among my favorites. Thank you for watching!! -- Jeremiah
Tikkas super Varmint comes in 1-14 or 1-8. But i have not seen one in the stores yet. I found a howa 1500 with 1-12 twist. And the 53gr V-max is what i want to use.
Iv been thinking about getting another tikka but in 22-250 in 1 in 8 twist and load 77 barnes lrx for deer . Varmint loads 80 eld match
We just finished filming a video on the .22 Creedmoor with a 1:7 twist barrel might be something to consider too that video should be up in a week or so. May want to check it out before you commit. That said I am a huge fan of the .22-250 and I think it makes an excellent deer cartridge with the right bullet. Thanks for watching and for commenting!
You have any info on your bench used on video? Looks real solid. I have my own range with concrete benches,but always looking to add new wrinkles.
I do but sadly it is not good news. The bench is a Konig Jager and is an outstanding bench we love it. one of the very few portable benches that can handle a ransom rest. Sadly the company is now out of business and the benches are very hard to find. currently we have been recommending Stukey's strudy shooting benches, as they are easily portable and very solid. It is hard to beat a concrete bench though.
This question might sound stupid, but when you say that you let the barrel cool down between groups, do you mean that it is cool to the touch, or you let a certain amount of time? Or do you have any objective way of measuring the "cooled" barrel? I reload for several calibers, and when I shoot, I touch the barrel with my own hands, and it is a question of "feel".... thanks for your excellent videos!!
Not a strange question at all feel is a relative term and hard to describe. Usually we simply go off the feel of the barrel depending on the time of year it is only a few minutes to cool the barrel off enough to where it is cool to the touch. meaning I can hold my hand on it and not feel any heat. typically the time it takes for us to walk downrange and change targets is enough to accomplish this. In the hotter months we set the rifle in the shade for 10 minutes or so. We have used Infrared Thermometers in the past to take a temp reading on the barrel and chamber but we typically find this unnecessary. Thank you for watching!!
You forgot to use 40 grains of Winchester 760 powder with a 55 grain Hornady Spire Point non cannular bullet and a Federal 210 primer in a Federal case for a total length of 2.41". In my Ruger #1V, with the factory barrel, it will group 5 shots on 1/8 inches.
That sounds like a great load to us! Sadly we never have enough time to show everything we want to. Thank you for sharing that with everyone here in the comments section I feel it adds a lot of value to our videos! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV I and we are inclined to think this is not the run-of-the-mill Ruger barrel and that it has some special qualities to it like extra care in its manufacturing. That the Ruger #1v had a more carefully selected barrel.
@@HandloaderTV This rifle, I think, shoots better than I can hold it. Looking to put it in a rigid rest to eliminate the human factor and then see what it will shoot for accuracy. Had metal smith Ron Lampert, Becida, Minnesota (deceased), replace the Ruger ring mounts with Redfield Rotary Mounts because the Ruger mounts kept coming loose. That has meant the Zero hasn't moved in 28 years
@@sashadala346 It sounds like a really good rifle to me, that kind of accuracy is certainly impressive, It would be interesting to find out if it was hand lapped or had some special qualities to make it that accurate. I know Ransom International makes a rifle rest but I know they are quite expensive. It is always interesing to see what the raw accuracy capability is of a rifle though. Every now and then I come across a rifle that is more accurate than me and it always makes me wonder what the rifle is really capable of. --Jeremiah
Just watched video. I just hit subscribe! Enjoyed and look forward to next one but will catch up on past first. Really like the ‘48 with the gold ring optic. 1150 rounds. Definitely not a safe queen! I know she has sufficient amount of rounds left but would be interested when that time comes do you re-barrel or new barrel ? 22-250AI?
Thank you so much for watching and subscribing we greatly appreciate it! We try to put a new video out every two weeks but sometimes weather or other factors can slow us down. Certainly check out the other videos we do our best to keep them coming and keep them informative. She has certainly seen her fair share of coyotes and dog towns. While it is not my rifle I am sure when it does come time to re-barrel it will be in 22-250 AI. I know the owner has a soft spot for high velocity cartridges. Thanks again for watching and subscribing we greatly appreciate it! --Jeremiah
I shoot 40 grains of 4895 with a 40 grain Sierra flat base varmit bullet. It's a hot load with pressure signs.
That is a very hot load pushing somewhere near the 70,000 PSI mark. I wouldn't recommend anyone duplicating such load, maximum load for the 22-250 is 38.0 Grains of H4895.
All the new powders and loads...38gr 380 is an excellent load,39gr w 55nbt is deadly at 1/4mi,all ive ever used is 380,if i need to h414
H380 is an outstanding powder choice for the 22-250 for sure there is a reason that powder got that name after all! Thank you for watching!
I load 55 gr Nosler ballistic tip varmint bullets. I use IMR 4064 at 3600 feet per sec. Absolutely lethal on varmint. My favorite rifle for varmint or just target practice.
That sounds like a great load, and that powder has been around for a long time and it's tried and true. Thanks for taking the time to share your personal load and experience, I feel it adds a lot of value to the comments section! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV I use 35 gr. I set scope -1/2” at 25 yds. That is 1.3” high at 100 dead on at 200 and 2 low 300. Very effective on any predator. It is safe to use with cattle or other animals around because it explodes on impact. Pushes all the energy back out entrance hole. Very seldom passes through but just plain rolls them up. I hit a ground hog at 75 yds and no exit but 4+ inch hole on entrance side. I had coyote trying to get new calves and had same type of performance on them.
@@erickbauer8888 That sounds like a good zero range for that load. That sounds like my kind of load I like loads that provide little or no pass through and expand rapidly upon impact. That sounds very effective, I appreciate any loads that is effective on coyotes, they do wreck havoc on livestock and are a thorn in my side these days! That sounds like the right medicine for the problem. --Jeremiah
Good grouping young fella. Not your rifle so you didn't shift point of aim, awesome.
Thank you very much and thank you for watching glad you enjoyed the presentation!
Those are some pretty impressive groups, and should be, since they are shot out of a $2000+ rifle/scope combo, if memory serves. Could you do a comparison video between one of these rifle/scope combos and something like a Savage Axis II combo to compare value and performance? I suspect a .25" to .5" difference in groups @ 100 yards; at 5x the price.
indeed! That sounds about right, this is the owners rifle and was purchased quite some time ago so I am unsure of the price. We have certainly had a lot of interesting comments about the accuracy of Savage Rifles. I think that would make a very interesting video and we could let you guys compare them yourselves. We try to stick with the same format with all our videos to make them comparable to one another. We will certainly add it to the list and see what we can do. I know right now we are rather backlogged with our filming. Thank you for watching and for the feedback! Good shooting to you!
Also at 1100 rounds plus this guys 200 the barrel is probably suffering from throat erosion. The barrel life of super fast light calibers is around 1500-2,000 rnds
Although I’m surprised to hear a “custom” production rifle is pillar bedded. I’d expect an action block and chassis system for that kinda money.
@@zackzittel7683 a chassis isnt going to be good for a hunter or anyone who carries it any distance. I've seen plenty of times when the ultralight version is more expensive than a target/bench model
@@nk-dw2hm I’ve got a featherweight model 70 and the handiness isn’t worth the recoil of the .280 in a 5lb rifle imo. But I shoot it more than an average hunter. I’ve got a couple aluminum chassis rifles and the weight is worth it. But I hunt on horseback so diff strokes.
Whitetail magic! 😉👌
Indeed with the right bullet it would be an outstanding performer on medium sized game. --Jeremiah
thats enought brand name adds for me
This is not an ad, I am not really sure how you got that impression. This rifle was purchased and it is not even mine. We conducted the same style of load development that we normally do and we showed the results and I shared my personal thoughts on the cartridge and provided the history of the cartridge and detailed the tools we used in the video. There was no monetary exchange for this video. We do our best to showcase the results exactly as we get them and if you don't believe that watch our 6.5 PRC video. If a rifle doesn't perform we don't hide it. This rifle just so happened to perform very well. I assure you that the information we provided here is good and reputable if you question it go out and try it for yourself and see if you can't get he same results. --Jeremiah
Great video and superb shooting. I hope you didn’t have to carry that bench out there with you; it looks like it weighs a ton!😳
Thank you very much for the kind words and for taking the time to watch the video! The feedback is always appreciated! It is pretty heavy, Thankfully we don't have to move it, as we are shooting on our own private range! Otherwise I would probably opt for a lighter more portable bench. --Jeremiah
Lapua brass, some of the best brass, no THE best brass!
It is certainly one of our favorites, they make a quality product! Thanks for watching!
That rifle seems to like 62 grain bullets. I'm surprised because my factory Remington 40-X (also with a factory 1-14 twist barrel) can't keep a group of any of the 62 grain bullets I've tried under an inch at 100-yards. The heaviest bullet it shoots well in the 52 grain Sierra MatchKing. The difference in group size between it's preferred 50 grain Sierra Blitzking and the 64 grain Sierra Gameking TGK is the most remarkable comparison I've tried; The Blitzkings average about .35 (one ragged hole) with five shots. All ten of the the TGK's I tried that day (all ten in one group) did somewhere around four inches, with three of them keyholing through the paper sideways. Not surprising that it also shoots 40 grain Sierra Blitzkings very well. I wonder why twist rate really matters big-time with some rifles in the caliber and not so much with others(?)
Leo, first off thank you so much for watching and taking the time to comment and share your experience! Twist rate is a tricky subject and can be the source of a lot of frustration. My rifle will not shoot 55 grain Barnes Varmint Grenades, it will keyhole as well and that bullet requires a 1:10 twist or faster. There are many factors that contribute to a bullets stabilization, such as bearing surface length and weight seem to be the key factors. A 62 grain long high BC bullet with a flat base may stabilize where a slightly shorter lighter bullet with a longer bearing surface may not. So you have to factor in bearing surface, length of the bullet, weight of the bullet along with velocity which can also play a factor in stabilization. These days many manufacturers have minimum or suggested twist rates available for each of their bullets. I have a hunch your rifle would stabilize the 62 grain flat base varmint bullet. I hope this makes sense and helps a little bit with your understanding of twist rates and how they relate to the bullet you choose to shoot. If you have any further questions don't hesitate to ask! Thanks again for watching! --Jeremiah
I'm partial to a Nosler 64gr Bonded over 33.5gr Varget, COAL of 2.350, PPU or Nosler brass and Remington 9 1/2 primer, out of my Browning X-Bolt with a 1:12 twist...
I do like those Nosler bonded bullets as well and I really don't think you can go wrong with Varget powder. thank you for sharing that information though it is nice that the comments is a place where folks can scroll to and read everyone's personal experience with a given load or rifle or what have you. It is greatly appreciated and thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
I noticed that savage has a 1 in 9 twist offered in the LRPV model. I'm assuming that handles any of the lighter bullets, but maybe nothing more than about a 75 grain ?
I would say you might be able to stabilize 80 grain bullets but it really depends on velocity and bullet length at that point. I know I wrote a piece in the latest Nosler reloading manual on what the 22-250 Rem can stabilize based off of twist rate. I sadly can not recall all of that off the top of my head. I think it's pretty safe to assume you'd be good up to about 80 grains though give or take. Great question thank you for watching! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV I went ahead and ordered in that 1 in 9 twist and am impressed with the 70-75gr bullets out to several hundreds of yards so I'll stick with those. Thanks so much for all the good content.
@@ArkansasBadBoy That is great news I had a feeling that it would do well for you! Best of luck with your shooting and adventures with your new rifle. No problem, we appreciate the feedback and the kind words! --Jeremiah
I would like to match my 22-250 with that custom shooting bench. Spill the beans, are they being built and for sale.
I wish I had better news for you, sadly the company that made those benches went out of business and they are no longer being made. I am not even sure where you could find them to be honest! The only other bench that I could suggest at this time is the Stukey's Sturdy Shooting benches. They work very well and are portable as well, I would suggest looking into getting one of those. In case you can find a used bench somewhere out there the companies name was Konig Jager and they called this the super bench. Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
Is the 22-250 based on the Savage 250-3000 case?
SW Precision, is so freakin' close to Varget, if not better than, you can use Varget data. I use a lot of SW Powders!
It is very close to Varget it may be a little more consistent but with lot variation it is very difficult to test. They do make excellent powders and we have been very pleased with them so far. Thank you for watching!
@@HandloaderTV Can we get a .35 Remington video? Maybe a handloading guide on the cartridge. Like what case can be converted into it.
@@b.c.gamingss I personally would love to do a video on the .35 Remington and cover handloading for the cartridge. Sadly we are a little backlogged at this time and I am doubtful that it will be anytime soon before we can cover the .35 Remington. There are not very many options when it comes to forming cases for the .35 Remington, I know some folks have had success forming .308 Winchester to .35 Remington but as you can imagine it is quite a process and usually requires a drill press and file or lathe to turn down brass. It is very time consuming and tedious. I share you pain though I have a .351 Winchester and making good brass can be quite a chore and finding factory brass is next to impossible especially these days for both .35 Rem and .351 WSL.
you might add some presentation color by dicussing your shooting set up. Bench, wind conditions, temps, chrony equipment, etc. I'd like to see the range itself. Where is it?
At the beginning of the shooting scenes we did state the chrono used and distance from the muzzle and distance to the target (100 yds). However I like the idea of wind conditions and temperature. We try and only shoot on days that are less windy which can be difficult at times. The range is actually the personal range of the owner of Handloader magazine on his private property and is not open to the public. We appreciate the feedback!
I think I missed that. I'll go back & review. really like the videos.
Where can I get some of those targets?
Those are actually our own design and are available at our webstore www.wolfeoutdoorsports.com/rifle-targets-1-pad-20-targets/ We just used an Avery color coding label in the center of each target. They are available in multiple colors and make a nice cheap addition to the targets. And if you don't hit the dot they are reusable! you can get them cheap online at various retailers.
so, my question is, why the Federal 210 M? Isn't that a magnum primer? Am i missing something? I use the standard 210...
Great question they are actually not Magnum primers those would be Federal 215 primers the Federal 210 is a standard large rifle primer the M designation stands for Match and not magnum so they are Federal 210 Match primers and not magnum. I hope that makes sense and as always if you have any further questions don't hesitate to reach out! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV ok, perfect, Thanks!
No trying to sound rude but what is the cost of this rig guessing set up anywhere from 2 to 6k and a $450 Ruger American predator in same round setup with a cheap Burris will shoot with it possibly out shoot it
No worries at all, I understand what you are trying to say, this is an expensive setup no doubt at the time I believe the cost was about $2,400.00 with the optic and that was a long time ago now. However, to play devils advocate with you, this rifle was able to shoot into the .3s with good handloads and it does it consistently. Having now had the opportunity to spend more time behind it on a recent varmint hunt. I would happily put this rifle up against any Ruger American or similar budget setup. Not to say that the Ruger is a bad rifle but rather that you are getting what you pay for. This rifle will routinely put 10 rounds into .5 MOA. It feeds very well and is super smooth it doesn't disrupt your sight picture while working the bolt. The glass is super clear and great for spotting small targets at extended ranges. I think a group here and there a Ruger or similar rifle might outshoot it but overall with statistically significant group sizes there is just no way I see that happening. I completely understand what you are saying and the Ruger American rifles do work I own several and love them but they are not as refined or as nice as this rifle but they are also very different rifles. Now could the Ruger do most of the things this rifle can and still accomplish most of what this rifle can absolutely and if that is what your budget allows then go for that. Practicing and knowing your holds/bullet drop would be more beneficial than having a super accurate and or expensive rifle. However, these are certainly a leg up compared to budget setups. Great comment and I appreciate the kindness in your wording. I enjoy having these discussion and chatting with others in a cordial fashion about these subjects we are all passionate about here. I think that is what the comments section is all about! --Jeremiah
Your load with 40gr nosler varmageddon ramshot tac looks like it is over 3 bullets wide, Is that correct?
It sure looks like it's pretty close to that the group size measured out to approx .57" 3 shots were really tight but then the group opened up just a bit. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV it's looking a little closer to .75 to me.
@@andy347495 I should still have the original targets and load data from this video if you like I can look them up and double check and even send you a picture if you like? looking at the target it is hard to tell and my measurement could have been off slightly. --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV it doesn't really matter what size the group is, it's a nice shooting rifle regardless. But, it would be interesting to see how calibrated my eyes are lol.
@@andy347495 I went ahead and dug up the targets and I thought I had an original but sadly all I have is a photo copy of the original target and after measuring the group size of that I got a .59" group so off by about 20 thou but that could partly be because of the scan of the target as well. It oddly enough does look like a bigger group on the screen I am not sure why that is. If you follow us on Instagram and want to see the photo with the calipers feel free to shoot us a message and we can send it to you. Thank you for all the continued support! --Jeremiah
Is your scope touching your barrel?????
Kool beans
Thank you very much! --Jeremiah
What's this rifles twist rate
As stated in the video at 2:04 it is a Pac Nor 24" barrel 1:14 twist, Thank you for watching!
What color is the rifle?
It is a flat dark earth CERAKOTE and I believe the stock finish is Desert Hunter 3-Color Speckle Painted but it is not my rifle and it was made some time ago so I can not be 100% sure on that. Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
Like the information on 22-250 cartridge. May I offer some constructive criticism of the presentation. Watching you pull the trigger and waiting for the next shot, burns time with little interest. While seeing the groups develop is helpful, perhaps you can speak of why you choose the particular powder/bullet combinations while shooting to fill the dead air. A more detailed discussion of the results would be interesting. What is each load good for? Is one better than another in windy conditions? What is the bullet performance on paper, varmints, etc. Is there a better coyote load than another, etc... Been reading your magazines since 1984.
That's true if our editor has the extra time we usually try to cut out as much of the trigger squeezing as possible however we also like to show our results so that folks know we are not skewing or editing out flyers at the the same time. I know that dead time is a bit boring. We could definitely add why we choose the powder bullet combination before getting behind the rifle. however once behind the rifle our shooter is focused on breathing control, heart rate, trigger control, etc. As for the target and loads review I think that would make a good addition known performance and application. We try to stick with a just the facts approach with the video to help keep them as short as possible. Perhaps adding some opinion would add some worthy commentary? Thank you for your support and thank you for watching and as always we appreciate the feedback we are committed to our audience and are always looking for ways to improve!
@@HandloaderTV Keep doing what you are doing. Handloading is great. I wonder if you can add voice over speech in sections that add additional information while you watch the shoot being fired. I kept looking to see the bullet hole after the shoot. I think some holes were so close to the original that you really couldn't distinguish a separate new hole . If so, really good shooting! & rifle.
Can anyone send some primers
They are certainly scarce and hard to find these days! Best of luck to you in your search!
@@HandloaderTV so is that a yes? Just kidding I work in a sporting goods store and we are out of powder primers and all big game ammo and it’s a big store not a mom and pop shop we have more than 10 stores in 3 states and it’s still so hard to get anything
@@milkrvr4088 I wish we could you are not alone, we have been trying to get primers for months! It is crazy times we are in. Hopefully it gets better soon!
That scope can't get any lower... it looks like it's touching the barrel
at 3:10 we talk about the details of the scope and how it contours around the barrel, It is not touching but it certainly can't get any lower. It does offer a very nice cheek weld when your are shooting and allows for support of the shooters head for those extended range sessions when you are spending a lot of time behind the scope. Thank you so much for watching! -- Jeremiah
Good vid 👍wish you had on some eye protection
Thank you we do our best to show the results as we get them and provide the most information possible. When it comes to the eye protection I admit I struggle with that, when I am shooting on steel I try to remember to put them on but when looking through optics that are the highest quality glass I hate wearing them and distorting my view through $20.00 eye protection. We have an excellent backstop and the loads are carefully constructed so it is quite safe but I do see your point in setting the example. Perhaps one day I will find a pair that I like that does not interfere with my optics or shooting. Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
“I love the smell of H4895.” 😀 I don’t have any experience with H4895, but that’s how I feel about Alliant Power Pro 300MP. Smells like victory.
Both are great powders and offer great performance the smell is an added bonus. "Nothing else in the world smells like that"!
I need to start hand loading rifles... H4895 sounds like a good place to start with .270.
@@876mpr Absolutely, be sure to follow us on Instagram @Handloadermagazine we are always answering questions and helping folks get started! H-4895 is a great choice in .270 for lighter bullets and reduced loads. It is a very temperature stable powder and typically yields low ES and SD.
@@876mpr head straight for h4350/4831
@@dustincharlton3815 Got ‘em both. Was finally able to find a new shell holder for .270, so I can get busy if I can ever tear myself away from big bore revolvers for a minute.
Why do you need a scope with a lens that big on a varmint rifle when most of your shooting will not be in low light conditions
We like the extra light gathering because often times we find ourselves shooting varmints into dusk, and when you are trying to find a small prairie dog at 600 yards a larger lens that gathers more light can be most helpful. We also are allowed to use artificial light to hunt coyotes at night (daylong shooting hours) in our state with some exceptions. When on those night hunts it helps to have as much light gathering capability as possible. Hopefully that answers your question in enough detail. Thank you for watching.
I have a Simmons 4x32 fixed scope on my 204 Ruger it works good out to 300-350 yards
@@ivobiancucci4528 Those old Simmons work great! The key to anything is practice at the ranges you're going to shoot it is amazing what you can accomplish with a low power optic.
Lose the “music”. There is no better music than that made by the gun.
We try to keep it nice and low so that it doesn't cover anything up in the video but sometimes if you are listening on one speaker or one ear bud it can effect that. We try to Use support the artist Brenn Hill as he is a Pro 2nd amendment country/cowboy singer and songwriter and a long time friend. We usually only put the music with the shooting for plinking and similar stuff but there was no plinking in this video.
Nice group .but do you call that zero. Why do all of you.never zero.b4 showing groups
Thank you, I usually rough zero before shooting groups in this particular case the rifle was already zeroed for a different load and I did not make any scope adjustments as this was not my rifle. However I never completely zero a rifle when doing a load development because we are simply looking at group size and the zero will be different for each load and since I don't want to have to load up sighters for 25-30 different loads I simply rough zero so I can measure the group. Once I find a load that I like I will then zero the rifle to that particular load. I hope that makes sense and clears up any confusion. --Jeremiah
22-250 AI
I would love to cover that cartridge at some point in the future! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
I hate Nosler. They hate reloaders. It's been impossible to get 150 gr 270 win bullets in NBT. Been like that for a couple years....now they're freeing up....Now I say...screw you nosler! You used them to load you own ammo and never threw the reloaders a bone. I'll use hornady now. They love reloaders. I just built a 22-250....will not work up a load with Nosler's. Can't rely on them!
I do think Nosler has been focusing heavily on factory ammo and I know times are hard for everyone right now and the shortages and the high demand is real. Some companies are feeling it more than others. I am even having difficulties getting Nosler components and much of what I am shooting now is from my own personal collection. It is very frustrating the lack of components and Hornady has done a great job keeping up with demand but there are also many others who are struggling. I understand your frustration and I can sympathize however I do think Nosler is doing everything they can to keep up. At any rate thank you for watching! --Jeremiah
Buy higher rings!
I would like to know why you want us to purchase higher rings? the scope is contoured around the barrel. The scope is in no way contacting the barrel, If I put higher rings on it would raise my scope height, bore offset and make it less comfortable to shoot. The rifle did shoot very well and again the scope is not contacting the barrel. --Jeremiah
Get a higher set of rings bro hahaha
The overall setup of the rifle worked very well and provides a nice cheek weld and a natural point of aim. It fit our shooter very well and higher rings would have made him pick up his head off the stock.
Not real impressive from a $2,500 rifle. Being a "custom" rifle, it should have a faster twist barrel of at least a 1 in 8", to take advantage of the heavier bullets out there. Tikka is making some 1 in 8" twist 22-250's now that surpass this "custom" rifle in precision and accuracy and can be had for $750. Your rifle or handloading skills are lacking, but keep trying. Most rifles chambered for this cartridge are much more precise.
We take the results and present them exactly as we get them and we show you exactly what was done to work up these loads and what components were used. If you would like to make a cordial suggestion that is always appreciated. The 1:14 twist was selected to get maximum velocity out of the lighter bullets and flatten the trajectory. As stated in the video this is also not my rifle and it also has quite a few rounds down the barrel. We want folks to know what they can expect with a basic load development and without spending tons of time working up loads and give an overall picture of how the rifle performed without any bias. While you can tune any load to a gun and may be able to get better accuracy from a single load the overall precision of this rifle is certainly better than a $750.00 rifle off the shelf based on the large number of rifles I have tested. Tikka included. At any rate I appreciate you taking the time to watch. --Jeremiah
It's easy to criticize when you yourself don't have to back up any of your claims. On the internet everyone's rifle shoots 1 hole groups at a mile or longer ranges, don't it? :) Go back to playing video games.
Hi, i'm Massimo from Italy 😊 first of all congratulations for the video and for your channel, i'have a Remington 700 BDL in 22-250 (barrel 24" - twist rate 1/14" ) I got the best results with Hornady V-Max 50 grs. (with the Hornady V-Max 55 grs. it was already tending to widen the groups) all loads with the excellent Vihtavuori N140, but i totally agree with you when you say: [There are many factors that contribute to a bullets stabilization, such as bearing surface length and weight seem to be the key factors. A 62 grain long high BC bullet with a flat base may stabilize where a slightly shorter lighter bullet with a longer bearing surface may not. So you have to factor in bearing surface, length of the bullet, weight of the bullet along with velocity which can also play a factor in stabilization] so i'm very curious to try the 62 grs. Berger. I kindly ask you how long is the barrel of the rifle in the test and what diameter it has at the muzzle, I seem to have understood that the twist rate barrel is 1/14 "and the distance to the targets is 100 yards.. correct me if i'm wrong please, I'm sorry but I don't understand English very well. Thank You in advance and congratulations on your channel again. Massimo from Italy.
Greetings from the USA! Thank you for taking the time to watch and for the kind comment we greatly appreciate the feedback! Those Remington rifles are nice I really like them and I have had great results with the 50 grain Hornady V-max as well. I am also a big fan of vihtavuori powder. Indeed many folks forget about the bearing surface and length and even velocity can effect stabilization. I have even had instances of bullets being stable at 100 yards and not at 400. It is really an interesting subject in and of itself. The barrel length is 24" and the approx diameter at the muzzle is .925" and that is correct the twist rate is 1:14 and the distance to the target is 100 yards. No worries we appreciate the questions and want to thank you for taking the time to watch the video and comment!! --Jeremiah