28 Nosler Handloads
2020 ж. 22 Мау.
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The Nosler M48 Carbon Mountain Rifle is reviewed and taken to the range, where we shot and tested several handloads.
The Nosler M48 Carbon Mountain Rifle is reviewed and taken to the range, where we shot and tested several handloads.
I enjoyed watching your tutorial of the Nosler.
Tim, Thank you for watching we appreciate the kind words and the feedback!
I am a Browning 28 Nosler fan. The Browning barrels last much longer. But I don't care that its a barrel burner, - it rocks!
Not a 28 Nosler fan due to the short barrel life but good video. When 28 Nosler's start shooting like crap they only get worse. Thank you
I can understand that I wouldn't use it for much other than hunting big game and for that purpose the barrel life is more than sufficient for my needs. However, it is certainly not for everyone, my own go to rifle is a 280 AI. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
Good job. Great vid
Thank you very much for the kind words we greatly appreciate the feedback! --Jeremiah
Humm, my 7STW had a similar time at 1st. However old 4350 gave me same holes... Thanks for sharing!
Gotta love the 7STW! We have had great success with H4350 and IMR4350, great powders that just plain work! Thank you for watching and sharing your experience, it amazes me how a change in powder, bullet, COAL etc can make such a difference in group size!
My 28 Nosler loves the lighter 168 grain Nosler AccuBond LR bullets and Retumbo fuel. Great groups and a breeze to handload.
This rifle also has performed well with 168 grain bullets as well! I still need to try the Accubond LR as of yet but I certainly want to! Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV Love your channel. As a thirty year handloader I am always interested in how the professionals do it. You have my attention. 👍🏿
@@bustabass9025 Glad to hear that we appreciate you for taking the time to comment and your continued support! --Jeremiah
You’d hit that fly would’ve sold 37,000 noslers…lol..love the 28 Jeremiah..thanks for your hard work
I think one of these days were going to have to have a fly shoot! Maybe this summer! I think it would be a whole lot of fun to watch! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
I knew I recognized our work! I was right about it being a Proof Research barrel! Depending on when you got that rifle, I may have cut the rifling into it! I think I would have went with at least 26 inches and a faster twist, like an 8 or 8.4, but you can argue with your results! That is a damn fine rifle! I can't wait to see what the .28 Nosler can do from a long action!
I just replied to your previous comment on the 7mm Rem mag Vs. 28 Nosler video! Thank you for watching and for your continued support it is greatly appreciated!! If I was having rifle built I agree 100% with you I think that would be an outstanding choice of components! I was impressed with this rifle as well though and with it's lightweight I think that it would make an excellent lightweight hunting rifle! I have a few more projects in the works using Proof research barrels I have a 16" .223 wylde barrel on hand and I am currently waiting on a 20" .223 Wylde barrel form Proof to do a velocity comparison and load development for AR-15s one will be a predator rig and the other an ultralight versatile gun. As soon as the 20" barrel comes in I am going to start working on that! I can't wait and am super excited. I am also very excited to hear about your project in the 28 Nosler it sounds like you are going to have one nice build when it is all said and done! --Jeremiah
Thank you for the video. My family loves the 7mm RM. I personally don't have a problem with it except that it's a banded brass. I always FL and trim my brass once than fire and NS the next 4 firings before retiring the brass (personal choice). I'm always afraid when I FL that brass I'll get a bulge. This 28 Nosler, I think, is a nice alternative to the 7MM RM. I may have to build one. Thank you again.
You are very welcome glad you enjoyed it thank you for watching! We were very impressed with the performance of both the rifle and the cartridge. I personally also like the beltless cases I think it is more of a personal preference however it is very nice to have such options available to us. The ADG brass is also of exceptional quality so there are at least a couple of really good brass options as well. No problem Glad you enjoyed this episode and thank you for the feedback!
Just got my Christensen Mesa in 28 Nosler the other day. I am about to chose a bullet and work up a hunting load for it, So far I am thinking either Nosler partition, Hornady ELD-X, or Sierra Game King. I'm looking for a laser that can hold one minute of elk, and based on the video's I have seen, the 28 Nosler is well over capable. The video where you compare the 7mmRM to the 28 Nosler is what made me chose the caliber. I have shot a 7mmRM for years, and I understand the great energy that cartridge contains, however, the 28 Nosler just destroyed it. Thank you for the great content, keep up the good work!
Gosh that is a tough call I think all of those bullets are more than capable for minute of elk accuracy even at longer distances. I personally am a big fan of the Nosler Partition, but I know it is not the most accurate at extended distances that said I have always found it more than capable for my needs. The AccuBond may be another one to look into if you are wanting something to shoot a little flatter and more consistently at distance. That video was a lot of fun to put together and work on. It is not very often I get to shoot long range in the videos so that was very enjoyable I was surprised by the results as well. Thank you for all of your support and taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
I can go out and have dinner in the time this guy takes to make a shot.
Indeed I do take my time when shooting I want to ensure that every shot is a good clean break and the sights are aligned perfectly with the target. This is also an older video and we have since cut more time between shots and have gotten better at editing. However we also want to show that we are careful and methodical and operating the rifle correctly. We speed one video up and cut out me working the bolt to speed up the shooting and everyone complained about that so it's all a balance. At any rate we do appreciate the feedback, we are always looking to improve! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
Thanks for sharing! 7 STW fan Thanks!
You are most welcome Thank you for watching, I personally am a big fan of the 7STW as well!
Well done!
Thank you very much and thank you for taking the time to watch and comment the feedback is always appreciated! --Jeremiah
I had a custom 28 nosler made im running the berger 195 grain eol at 3.600 coal with retumbo at 3075 fps and outstanding accuracy dusted my black bear last year at 846 and have shot it to 1100 yards quit a bit. The only thing about loading the 28 to 3.340" is that the long vlds style bullets like the 175,180 ,195 protrude into the powder space quite a bit nutering the velocity.
I almost had a 28 Nosler custom made this year but went with a .280 AI instead. It sounds like you have an awesome build and the 195 is a wicked bullet in this rifle. We single loaded some and had impressive results when we loaded to longer OALs and increased powder capacity and reduced bullet jump. All in all an outstanding cartridge and very capable at long range. Always nice to hear what others are doing and get their feedback. Thank you for watching and commenting!
Same thing I was thinking. Just got a 7-300 PRC and shooting Nosler RDF 185s at 3.725 COAL and you can jam some serious powder in the case with all the bullet sticking out. Just the second time having it out today and looks like I should be around 3200 fps
@@justinbenjamin4651 I could get 3100+ but it hammered the brass pretty hard. N570 helped get more speed but anything over 3100 pretty much cooked brass and throats. I rebarreled my 28 to a 26 nosler and run 127 lrxs at 3550 and use a 300 prc with 208 eld match at 3028 now as the replacement to the 28 and brass is much much cheaper
@@justinbenjamin4651 you’ll get a speedin ticket goin that fast…185s@3200..that’s what I’m talkin bout
I really wanted to see one of the flies splattered across the target! LOL
You and me both, perhaps one day in the summer we can make that happen just have a video on shooting flys! I don't know how many would watch but it would be fun! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
Great video! I just pulled the trigger one of these rifles. I really like how you had yours set up. I’m assuming you’re VX5 was a 44mm objective? Would you mind sharing what height Talley rings you used?
Thank you for the kind words and I apologize for the delay in response, KZhead has not been notifying me of every comment we get. I do believe it is a 44mm objective and I believe we used the medium height ring and base combo from Talley but I am not 100% sure on that as I don't have the rifle in front of me at the moment. I hope that helps and again I apologize for the delay! --Jeremiah
Thanks Jeremiah. At the beginning of the video, you showcased US 869 but never produced the results. I am very interested in the Ramshot Magnum and US869 since they are the only powders available. How did US869 do? I was going to try it with a Berger EOL 195gr on a rifle with a 27.5" 1:8 twist barrel. Which powder would you choose? Thanks!
I have not used US 869 enough to say if it is a good fit for 28 Nosler or not, I did a little bit of testing with it early on but quickly found other powders that quickly outperformed it. That doesn't mean it's a bad powder though. Based on my previous testing I would suggest starting out around the 83.0 to 84.0 grain mark and work slowly up to no more than 3,070 FPS watching carful for pressure signs. I imagine 2,900 to 3,050 FPS you should be able to find a near 100% case fill and hopefully find accuracy around that mark 95%-100% case fill mark from there you can fine tune it with you seating depth. I do not have any data for that bullet using RAMSHOT Magnum and I suspect it may work but I have a hunch it may not be the best powder to choose. Best of luck to you in your load development and if any further questions don't hesitate to reach out! --Jeremiah
I noticed you tried a 195 berger but couldn't fit it into the msg box due to the COAL. What kind of fps were you getting and would it be possible to shoot the 195s out of this gun and still get them to fit into the mag box as well?
Since this video I have tried really hard to make that 195 grain work and using N-570 powder I was able to get about 2,955 FPS out of this rifle Which I thought was extremely impressive especially considering the 24" barrel. However that load is pretty hot. I also managed to shove that much N-570 in the case with a COAL of 3.405" and it fit and fed from the magazine. However accuracy was not all that great and I think that bullet was simply jumping more than it wanted to. However it may be worth looking into if your rifle has a short throat. Good luck in your load development and good shooting! ----Jeremiah
Awesome Video! Where can a guy buy that reloading bench?
The bench is from Gladiator Garage Works. They make great products for the Garage or Loading room.
Great video! How does the recoil feel? What caliber would you compare it to without a muzzle brake?
Glad to hear you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching! The recoil is pretty stout by my standards but not unbearable by any means without the brake I would compare it to a .300 weatherby magnum or 300 win mag somewhere between there with the heavier bullets 165-195 grain. It also depends on the load and weight of the bullet you are shooting. 195 Bergers vs 140 accubonds have quite a difference in felt recoil. Overall I find it to be an excellent flat shooting and accurate hunting cartridge in a very lightweight rifle.
it is a beast,not a good choice for people that don't like big recoil.keep in mind 28 nosler is more powerful then a 300 win mag
Do you have a link for the guy who made your muzzle brake? I have this gun and am currently looking for a good muzzle brake for it.
I sadly can't post links due to KZhead's guidlines about firearms sales however if you google Finks Custom Gunsmithing it should pop up no problem , It's a good brake I have the same brake on my .280AI as well and have been very happy with it as well! Thanks for watching and great question! --Jeremiah
Try a EC TUNER BRAKE. THEY ARE GREAT. I HAVE 8 OF THEM...
Can you do some testing with 162gr eld-x and 175gr eld-x with the different powder on the 28 nosler.
Our biggest problem right now is the availability of Bullets and powder. The shelves are bare in most of the stores in our area. Even calling manufactures directly doesn't help much. Hopefully manufacturers will ramp up production.
Great Video and Happy New Year to Everyone . The 28 Nosler is only Renamed , it is only the 7mm RUM . It is the 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum , it is the 404 Jeffery necked down to the 284 or 7mm . I have a RUM and it is Amazing and Super Accurate .
Thank you for watching and Happy New Year!! A lot of folks are making that comparison however there is one important difference in my humble opinion the 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum fits in a magnum action and max COAL is set at 3.600" the 28 Nosler fits in a standard (30-06) length action and max COAL is set at 3.340". The 28 Nosler also has a 35 degree shoulder angle while the 7MM RUM has a 30 degree shoulder. They are very similar ballistically but the beauty of this rifle is it's light weight which is partly because it is a standard length action and not a magnum. All that said I do love the RUM myself and think it is a great cartridge. Thanks again for watching it is always nice to hear from our viewers.
@@HandloaderTV Hello , Yes you're correct they did shorten the length just a little but that and the shoulder angle so when you're shooting your 28 Remember the 7RUM because that is really what you're shooting . You and Your Family Have a Blessed New Year Too . Stay Safe out there .
@@MrGuitars8 I personally am a big fan of the 7mm RUM and I will always remember it and continue to shoot and load for that cartridge to this day. Thank you so much you as well and stay safe and good loading to you!
@@HandloaderTV I have a questopn , with coyotes and and Deer , if they start yelping will that make Deer leave an area ???
I’m not planning on running reloader 33, or us869. How many rounds through my barrel do you think, maxing out at 85gr of retumbo, give me?
Great question but it would be hard for me to give an exact round count, I have been running H-1000 in this rifle and have about 700 rounds through it currently with only minor erosion in the throat and no loss of accuracy at this time. I would say you should be able to get at least that many rounds with Retumbo. A WAG would be somewhere in the range of 900-1,200 rounds depending on what kind of accuracy and shooting your doing and expecting. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTVthanks for the reply!
How do you like your 280AI? Love mine!
Jeremiah had one built for his do it all hunting rifle and we did a video on it it, I will paste the link below in case you haven't seen it. I know he loves it and loves the cartridge. Early on he was debating between the 28 Nosler and the .280 AI, Compared to the 28 Nosler it's not as fast or as flat shooting but the .280 AI has better barrel life and less recoil. So it just depends on what you want. kzhead.info/sun/Y7CScamhZHl5ioE/bejne.html
I’ve had a custom 28 Nosler built on a Fierce action for 4 years. The best powders I’ve used for the 160 gr class of bullets has been Reloader 25. I’ve used Retumbo, Reloader 33, and US869 with bullets in the 175-180 gr range. I also think you are loosing velocity using a gun with only a 24” barrel for this cartridge. Good video and take care.
We did not test Reloder 25 in our test rifle however we have done testing with it and found good performance. H1000 is a another good performer with the heavier bullets. We certainly could get more velocity with a longer barrel. I think Nosler wanted an ultralight rifle and that is why this one has a 24" tube. They also make a similar model that is a little heavier but offers a 26" barrel. The model 48 carbon long range. Glad you enjoyed the video, we appreciate you watching and commenting!
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If it fed "flawlessly", how come you had difficulty closing the bolt on the last round?
As you pointed out the bolt was a little difficult to close, the rifle fed just fine. When reloading this cartridge I typically bump the shoulders .0015" for some reason a few were cases did not get adequate shoulder bump and therefore were a little tight in the chamber and hence the slight difficulty closing the bolt. thank you for watching and hopefully that answers your question! --Jeremiah
How far off the lands are you seating the bullets?
It varies for each load, The Bergers were about .020" off the lands, The accubond about .040-.050" off the lands if I remember correctly and the TGK was about .030-.040" however that is working from memory. Thank you for watching and commenting!
Are you testing those with a fouled barrel or clean barrel?
We always test with a fouled barrel, if we clean the rifle we will send a 5-15 rounds downrange to foul the barrel up and then resume testing. Great question thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
Thanks!
@@nebraskaman8247 No problem!!
Any load testing using US869?
I did not test US 869 in this particular video but I have tried it in the past with decent results but certainly not a go to powder of mine. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
It looks to me that your rifle liked the H1000 and 175 gr bullet better than any other load.
That was the definitely the best load we tested. However the N570 Powder was also excellent and overall seemed to be the best performer powder wise.
@@HandloaderTV what's the twist rate on that rifle?
@@maxcoatlhunter4322 It is a 1:9 twist 24" barrel.
@@HandloaderTV Thank you Sr. My rifle is 1:8 also a 24" barrel and I can't make it to group with 2 diff. factory ammo. What I'm working right now is on some reloads diff. powders to see if I can make it group better. If not, then I will try diff. seathing depth etc etc until I get better groups.
@@maxcoatlhunter4322 We have had good luck with H1000 with the heavier bullets. You may have a slightly longer throat and seating bullets out may also help accuracy. Experimentation is key to success with handloading I am sure you will find a good load.
How's barrel life on the 28? More than likely not good!!
In our experience thus far we would say about 1,000 rounds before accuracy starts to degrade. Of course this is entirely dependent on your loads and how hard you push the barrel. I wouldn't recommend it for high volume shooting but for hunting purposes and practicing for hunts I personally think it is an excellent choice. Good question and thank you for watching!
@Reel-Lentless Indeed if you are taking care of the rifle and you aren't heating up the barrel too much you can get very impressive barrel life and maintain excellent accuracy. Thank you for watching and thank you for the comment! It is always good to hear others experience.
At 4:27 he shoots the target and hits the second time. But why does he put the target in front of the chronograph?
We put the target camera footage in front of the chronograph because there is really not much to see there as you can not see the bullet pass through the skyscreens. We thought it made more sense that covering up the rifle or the shooter or placing it in the middle of the screen. Thanks for watching and let us know if you have any other questions!
Availability of ammo and brass and ridicules price keeps me from purchasing this caliber. But I'm interested.
The ammo situation has greatly improved with Nosler, Federal, Hornady, Browning and I think even a few others offering factory loads. The price is up there but I think that will improve with time as well. It seem like all the prices for ammo/components are high right now. I think if you wanted a long range, flat shooting cartridge this is an outstanding option.
@Reel-Lentless That is why we reload!
Try a EC TUNER TO IMPROVE YOUR ACCURACY. THE WORK GREAT....
I am not entirely sold on barrel Tuners as of yet so I should experiment more with them in the future and perhaps that is the one that I should try! I appreciate the suggestion and thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah
You guys produce a good show
@@billcarlson852 Thank you Bill, I really appreciate that we do our very best to showcase the results exactly as we get them and provide good honest information to the folks out there. I am just glad that most everyone seems to enjoy and appreciate that! Thank you! --Jeremiah
Elk would die from old age before you got the shot off as slow as you shoot lol
This was an earlier video and we didn't edit out the time in between shots like we do now. However, I do take my sweet ol time when shooting off the bench to ensure I am making the most accurate shots possible and the shooter is imputing the least amount of error possible into the accuracy results of the rifle. Thankfully when I am elk hunting I don't drag out my shooting bags and bench it would take way too long and I can shoot much faster from field shooting positions lol. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
@@HandloaderTV just a joke what’s the point in hand loading your rounds if your not goikg to take the time to make certain the shots are perfect
your having a bad day
It is really hard work but somebody has to do it ;) it's real rough! Thanks for watching we greatly appreciate it!
You said you had no feed problems. So then what was that bobble and apparent failure to feed smoothly on the third group? Also, while I have nowhere near your level of expertise and experience, this is more a test of the loads than the rifle. It seems to me that at least part of the test should consist of whatever weapon you are testing tested in your hands, not exclusively off a massive rest on a bench. If this is meant to be a hunting rifle, test it in hunting-type positions. Like in prone. With only ear plugs, not muffs. Then let's see how highly you regard that muzzle brake!
That was something that was forgotten to be addressed. We typically bump the shoulder 1.5-2.0 thousandths of an inch when resizing and that case did not receive adequate shoulder bump. It fed very smoothly however it was a stiff bolt close as you could see from inadequate shoulder bump during sizing, so that one is on us and not the rifle. That is true however we wanted it to be more about what the rifle can do than what our shooter can do. Many folks have different experience levels and we understand that so we wanted to show you what this rifle is capable of and not what the shooter is capable of. We did do quite a bit of shooting offhand, kneeling and prone with this rifle and had no issues. which is why it is not featured in the video. As for the Muzzle brake it is loud however it is designed to direct the blast away from the shooter which means that the noise level behind the rifle is only slightly increased. The muzzle brake is not included with the rifle but it does come threaded from the factory. However we appreciate the feedback as always and will certainly take it into consideration. As for the shooting if you are following us on Instagram send us a message we purchased this rifle and would be happy to showcase shooting the rifle offhand or provide any details on the rifle. Unfortunately KZhead does not lend itself well for interaction with our subscribers.
You do realize that this is Handloader TV and that the specific title of the vid is 28 Nosler Handloads right?
Developing a load for a rifle is a process of precision. Once you develop a load the rifle shoots well off the bench, the only factor when moving to hunting scenarios is the human factor. In other words, you won't be able to blame the rifle if you miss.