Mitsubishi Mirage CVT Fluid And Filter Service. Do this Every 20 to 40K to keep your CVT Mirage A-OK
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NOTE: Final check should be done with the engine running and the car in park. Top off as needed.
I plan on keeping my Mirage on the road for at least 250K. As a result, I take good care of it. Spend a little now, and then, and not a lot then. This job is easy to do in a driveway, and although you should really check the fluid level with the temp hot, a 20 minute drive should bring you close enough to make sure everything is good. NOTE: Final check should be done with the engine running and the car in park. Top off as needed.
I have apparently added some confusion to this video so let me say that the final fluid level check should be with the transmission fluid at full operating temp (180F). When checking, the car should be running, in park and on level ground.
So do we have to go through the level checking process? Or just how much fluid do we need to add to the transmission?
@@nicolasjchaanine you MUST do the final check. Get it close as you can, then drive it at least 30 minutes to get the fluid to temp. Then park it on level ground and with the engine running in park, do your final fluid check/adjustment. To low and the transmission will starve, to high and the transmission will get air bubbles in it causing issues.
I found your videos looking up how to service my girlfriend's car (2014 w/80k), and I gotta say that you are a fantastic teacher, and these are extremely helpful. Thanks for putting these out into the world!
Wow, thanks! It is comments like this that make me want to do more-
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs I plan on purchasing a used Mirage @ 20k miles. Should I have the dealership do this service or hold off on it? Car was considered a "fleet" vehicle, so I think it maybe a good idea or can I wait till 30k miles? I plan on keeping the car till right around 80-100k miles, but do want to not worry about any issues during my ownership. Thanks.
Got this job done thanks to you! Really appreciate that! I decided to take the whole shield off in my tire well because I can't STAND not having access to areas I'm trying to work. Thank you again!
I used to take more off when doing repairs, but the mechanic in me likes to do things faster.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. Your video guided me through my first transmission fluid change and saved me $300.
Glad it helped, these days saving ever dollar helps
Awesome explanation, thank you!
You're very welcome!
Great video, 👍 different job than most, not a lot of CVT videos available, especially Mitsubishi Great information 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Really like your intro Eric 👍💯 Thanks for the video.
Thanks 👍
Wow! That does look easy and a lot of savings. I just bought a 2020 Mirage with 40K miles. I will do this immediately. I really wanted the manual shift but they are impossible to find. Keep up with the Mirage content. I already watched the oil change / routine maintenance video from a year or two ago. Your new haircut looks good.
Glad it helped! The manual trans are going away after 2023- such a shame
Just got done changing my fluid on 2019 mirage g4, this video was perfect and super helpful, thank you for making it. Everything in this video is correct.
Great to hear! May your Mirage last you generations!
Excellent video! You explain things clearly, thoroughly, and at a nice pace. Thanks for the info.
Glad it was helpful! Comments like this is why I keep making videos
just be carefull your unit might have another filter in the pan so you have to replace it too.
100%😊
Now that's what I call a clean and detailed service. Great video content also.
I really wanted to take my time on making it, people should know that they can do these kinds of service without having to go to a dealer.
Very thorough and professional. Subbed!
Thanks and welcome!
Very informative video and im going to drop the pan as well
Good luck!
this video helps a ton. mine is at 50k miles now and i’ve experienced slipping in the cvt. i’m gonna do this asap on mine so it can hopefully last as i need it to.
You got this! If yours is slipping, you may want to consider dropping that bottom pan to clean out the bottom filter as well.
Thanks for the great videos. I just bought a 2024 Mitsubishi Mirage G4 thanks to watching your videos on them. I love it. It’s a great car!
Glad to help, these cars get such a bad wrap- they are the perfect car
Wow what a nice new intro! Looking good! Good to see that Mitsubishi actually includes a transmission dipstick..So, many manufacturers have stopped!
I've been toying with a new intro for the past 2 years now. This one isn't final, but I am glad you liked it!
What's interesting is that this CVT is also used in the Nissan Versa and in that car there's no dipstick!
Thanks, good video. I never replace drain plug washers. I coat the threads with wheel bearing grease. Have never had a leak in decades.
Thanks for sharing, Never heard of that trick.
Thanks Eric the REOF11A in the Nissan look very simple for parts
Good to know!
Watching from the Philippines. My 2022 Mirage G4 is seldom used. It has 2800 km. Bought brand new. Seems like a long way to 200000 km. Planning to change halogen head lamps to led and add some fog lights. Thanks for the tut. Thanks for the effort. Very clear and easy to follow.
Hello! Glad to hear my videos are seen world wide. These sure are great cars!
The Mirage is a great car! I like it! Good video too!
Thanks sir!
I have a 2017 mirage se model and it has been the best car I have ever owned.
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Here I am back about 10 months later. The bolt is 12 mm for the wheel shield and this time I took it off. I also filed the six sides to I could get the socket on easier. Slow and steady. I should have use some oil BEFORE removing it BUT it came off. I DID anti-size it for easier removal next time. I did not bother replacing the o ring on for the filter since it is less then a year old and about 10 K miles. I did remove the bottom plastic shield to make it easier and cleaner to remove the 19mm bolt. Will keep an eye on it. Thanks for the video. FYI I used trans fluid from the dealer.
Glad to hear you are keeping up with the CVT! These are great cars for sure.
Great video! I found that replacing the filter cap was in deed a little tricky at first. I put just a little grease around the O ring and edge of the cavity which helped a lot and the cap practically went in by itself. Be gentile! I am hopeful that with regular maintenance the transmission will last a long time.
Good tip! Thanks!!
I work at a Mitsubishi and ive recently had to change a transmission for a Mirage sedan at around 50k miles. 2 reasons why it failed: Customer neglected it, the fluid was gray and had a burnt smell. On top of that, my work does NOT automatically recommend/include in the service package replacement that external filter or the filter in the pan. No matter how many times i ask them to do so, the advisors dont. Why? Because they WANT your transmissions to fail in warranty because of the commission they get from it. I want ALL Mitsu owners to know how quick and easy it is, that way they dont need to have their cars stuck in service for a week over something that was completely avoidable
Man, that is hard to hear. I work in the industry and came across companies like that. Sucks.
Hey bro, checking how many liters do you usually fill up if both 2 filters (metal strainer and paper filter) were replaced?
Hey buddy do you have a part number for the filter
I just got off the phone with a parts guy at a local dealer, and he discouraged me from buying or changing the filters.
@@Juxtaminute Did he say why?
Nice video, looks easy .
This service is not too hard to do, just take your time
thanks to you .... great video its informative.. i can do it my own mirage..
Glad to hear it
I ran the car around and then change the small filter and dumped the fluid. I ended up at the top line of high for the level with about 2.5 quarts. I could not get the 13mm bolt off the bottom for the driver tire shield BUT I was able to get around it to change the small filter. I did put a dab of anti seize on the 10 mm bolt. 2015 Mirage ES with 87 K miles. I think the plastic body pins are 8mm.
Great to hear!
Saw some tiny bubbles on the stick so I pulled out a bit. Now in the middle of H after removing 1/4 of a qt. Thanks for the video.
Kudo to Mitsubishi for having such easily accessible filter for the CVT.
Agreed. They made this car for people that like to work on cars.
Watching from Philippines, great video
Thank you sir!
I will be performing this on the 2023 G4 in a couple days.
Good luck! Make sure that the very final fluid check is done when the fluid is fully warmed up, and the car is running in park. Mine ended up needing an additional 1/3rd quarter after all the other checks. Love your channel and still visit your geo metro forum from time to time.
Been going back and forth on weather or not to pay a shop to do this for me. Would not have guessed there was two filters.
You totally got this! DIY and keep the other $350 for food!
Great video! Thanks...
Glad you liked it! I hope it helped you
Aamco does a good job servicing CVTs. For the Mirage its about $250. They use OEM fluid, clean out the drop pan magnets, and change the filter. This is much better than just the drain and fill a Mitsu dealer does for $300. I recommend doing the fluid every 30 to 40k miles and changing the filter out every 70k miles or so. I understand Fairpoint doing his every 20k miles though, driving in Appalachia will put a serious strain on any transmission or brakes. If you are lurking here and thinking about getting a Mirage, this is a fantastic tutorial. Don't listen to assholes who've never owned a Mitsubishi and are just shit posting because their CVT in their Altima died at 50k miles. You're typical Nissan owner will do fuck all in terms of CVT preventative maintenance, 10k mile oil changes, and not even bother to change out the paper plates they're still rocking. Mitsubishi and Suzuki and have no where near the amount of premature CVT failure with JATCOs that Nissan does.
Thanks for the kind words, as well as the words of truth!
Apakah CVT Mirage sama dengan CVT Nissa jatco
@@anakmbarep92 you sound like Jar Jar Binks and yes, we're well aware both Mitsubishi and Nissan uses their own spec versions of the CVT7 with some small differences like programming and the Mitsu version having a dipstick.
Nissan altima is way too heavy for this transmission. No wonder they're blowing out at 50k.
@philhubb5885 IIRC the Altima has the CVT8, slightly bigger than the Mirage's CVT7. I had a 99' Altima for a few years. It's reliability was OK, no engine problems or issues with its 4speed auto trans, but it had annoying electrical issues after 100k miles.
When it comes to the CVT fluid color, it looks nice and clean up to to about 40k. After that it gets dark and dirty very quickly.
That’s why it’s important to do drain and refills every 20-30k, especially if you are doing a lot of city driving.
Thanks for the info! City driving can put a ton of wear on a car-
Yes, this car is actually incredibly easy to wrench on. BTW you might wanna pull down the pan because there's another filter in there. But I'm really surprised they made the serviceability on this extremely easy. Working on this feels like working on one of my 20 year, 25year old cars. It's funny, my dad bought one of the cars with the most horse power available in this country. And I bought the least horse power modern car. And you gotta get it in Inferno Red (it goes 10mph faster :p)
Red makes any car faster! I agree the simple design reminds me of older basic rides from the 90's. Love it!
A very professional presentation. Does doing it yourself and not having a record of the dealer performing the change at required intervals VOID the power train warranty? And if I read the schedule correctly these Mirage engines require old fashioned manual valve adjustments every 30,000 miles. Do you agree?
I have one of these cars, although mine is a 5 speed. The entire car is made so that it can be maintained with basic tools by normal people, it's refreshing.
Agreed. That's why I bought it! After nearly 30 years as a mechanic, I took one look at this cars design and knew it would be reliable and easy to maintain. A+
Don't forget to clean the magnet on the drain bolt folks.
Mine wasn't magnetic.
I believe you should pull the pan, because there are two magnets inside that will be covered with metal filings and you should clean those off.
That is the plan at 40K.
I have a 2015 mirage CVT transmission 55k miles, and it fun to drive...Small car with big power.. the cvt is very tough,
my wife and I both enjoy ours- hers is a 5 speed and it is great
There was a check fill bolt on the side of the transmission behind the wheel, just below the filter, and the dipstick/fill location. If you open that, a small amount of fluid may run out. Allow it to until it stops (after the vehicle is up to temp).
Thanks for sharing that
Is this a step that needs to be done?
@@jfu6113 It’s the best way to ensure the proper fluid level.
You can get the auxiliary filter off without taking the wheel well out, especially if you’re stronger than a 130 lb woman (aka me). I didn’t have jack stands at the time so it took me like an hour of pulling and twisting on it trying to find the right spot to get it out. Anyone stronger than me can do it easily. Also, I didn’t replace the O-ring on the housing and it hasn’t leaked in the 20,000 miles since I changed the fluid 🤷🏻♀️
Great to know! I would still recommend that you do the O-ring though.
Great video! There is however another filter in the pan.I have a 2015 Mirage. 320,000 miles on the CVT. Only did the service once at about 100 000. Dumb luck that it lasted this long.
Wow! That is great to hear. I hope to get 300k out of mine as well.
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairskay I have a crazy question ❓ mechanic wants to charge me $240.... I don't have that. I also don't have the tools or know anybody that could help. I know that my vehicle needs transmission fluid.... Can I carefully add fluid down the transmission fluid dipstick thingy ❓ yeah I know it's a crazy thought... I'm on a limited income... And I'm not mobile enough to get underneath the vehicle and back up😂... Would doing that screw everything up.... Or buy me a couple weeks to raise the funds ❓ it's a 2019 Mitsubishi mirage... I bought it used, and I know I've put 35000 miles on it.
@@juliec9 find a frend who can and giv him maybe 100$ just for d labor.. 🤔
That's good info to have. My 2018 Mirage is a 5-speed but my wife wants a new Mirage and all the local dealers are only bringing in G4's with CVT transmissions. I also have a 2016 Chevy Spark that I bought new and the dealer refused to do a CVT fluid change at the recommended interval. I thought it was just them being weird but none of the local Chevy dealers will do a CVT fluid change on a Spark at any mileage. Apparently they know something about that CVT in the Spark that I don't and maybe don't want to know.
No doubt. If it was maintained and still failed, you have a cause to complain. Please if you plan on keeping it, do the service at home!
My wife and I daily a 17 Spark w/CVT. Love the darn thing, but finding info to drain/refill is very difficult. I'm trying to gather info to do it myself, so doing my homework now.
I had just come across your channel a couple of days ago, and I'm truly impressed with the fantastic and entertaining information. My daughter is about to purchase a new mirage and really appreciated seeing your wife's video.(My daughter Tanya would like her to make more). One thing big that I'm surprised with is the difference in the offerings between Mitsubishi Canada and Mitsubishi USA. I've read that for the 2022 year, the 5 speed ES model is difficult to find, and is no longer available for the year 2023, but in Canada, there is no issue getting the 5 speed manual in both the 2022 model and is the what you get with a base ES for the 2023 model! What has me puzzled is the fact that in the States, Mitsubishi has the cruse control available with the 5 speed manual, and in Canada, if you want cruse control, you are obligated to get the CVT transmission.
I had just read in a Mirage forum that the States got cruse control, and Canada got day-time running lights.
I am always amazed at what other countries get for options that we don't. In American the car manufactures are pushing bloated SUV's and large trucks, when most people really don't need ones that big. I wish that we could get the smaller versions like all the other countries.
Us gets the cvt because it gives better fuel economy numbers. That’s why.
@jo I don't disagree with your logic, but at the same time, I'm interested in what your response is to Canadian models getting both daytime running lights and fog lights as standard equipment on all models but can only get the accident mitigation camera system on the top trim. It's a good little car, and my daughter loves it, but when the ES model comes with no electric doorlocks and only the front doors have electric windows, with the back being manual, hand crank down windows, it screams "small town cheap to me," and besides that, I would think that it would be considered a safety issue for the driver not being able to control the back windows in an emergency situation. Cruse control and heated seats aren't even an option in the ES model here. Cruse is available here with the SE model, but for the heated seats, you can only get that in the top trim. I wonder if the Canadian model comes pre-wired for heated seats and Cruse control? One popular add-on that Canadian ES owners get is the armrest from Amazon because the armrest is not even an option here, nor is the console in the base trim, which doesn't even give you a place to put the switches for the heated seats if the seats were wired for heat to start with. I'm just happy to say that I live a 40-minute drive to the border to the States and just another 25-minute drive after that to get to a Mitsubishi dealership where Mitsubishi original add-ons like mudflaps, are available at a reasonable price compared to the house payment that it would cost me for the same thing from our dealership. I really like the car to start with, even with its short commings in Canada. My husband ordered an ES for me with a CVT transmission that will be arriving in a week or 2, which I'm looking forward to.
You make this look easy enough for someone who's never worked on cars to do. I'm buying a 2024 Mirage hatch this week and have been researching the in's and out's of it's maitenance. Love how there is actually a dip stick! Cars don't seem to have them nowadays. I do have a question. As someone who's never worked on cars, and this being my first NEW car, do I just keep receipts to verify guenuine parts for the warrenty? Or do I actually have to have a certified machanic do the work? Might be a dumb question for some but, I'm a firm believer in asking when you don't know.
Yes! I would totally track the work you've done to the car incase there is even an issue and maintenance comes into question. That is what I do here. That said, these are VERY reliable cars and your new one should last you a very long time with just the basics.
Thank You!@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs
Very similar to my Suzuki Swift Sport trans. JF015E
Good to know. Thanks!
I work in a mitsu service center. 20k-40k is a great area. We personally do them every 30k with a fuel treatment as well on all our mirages/outlanders/lancers/etc
Sorry I’m commenting as I watch lol. The part number for the washer is MD050317 I believe, and we also replace the internal filter. That I don’t know the part number for. But great video bud
Thanks!
For the Mitshubishi Tech: I plan on purchasing a used Mirage @ 20k miles. Should I have the dealership do this service or hold off on it? Car was considered a "fleet" vehicle, so I think it maybe a good idea or can I wait till 30k miles? I plan on keeping the car till right around 80-100k miles, but do want to not worry about any issues during my ownership. Thanks!
@@dbzownz12345 having a good reputable shop (regardless of specialty) is never a bad idea. Fleet vehicles are generally well kept, just keep this in mind, tires every 40-60k brakes 45-50k, cvt every 30k (this is from my own notes so it may vary a bit) coolant flush & brake fluid flush around each 60k spark plugs and fuel treatment every 100k (unless you do the FT with every trans serv) but in all honesty, do a bit of research on the shop you plan to go to, read reviews. A good shop will see you as more than a stack of cash
@@dbzownz12345 I forgot to add. When going to a dealership ask for a MPI (multi point inspection) most dealers will do them for very little to no cost.
You should do the pan drop evry 2 or 3 because the magnets in the pan get full of metal and then makes the filter gasket life mich much lower
Agreed. I do a drain and fill every 20,000 and a pan drop every 40,000.
Nissan owners watch this channel. Your car or CUV has the same JATCO CVT MFG. This will help you too. The Nissan Juke, Versa Note, and Cube also has a JATCO CVT7 like the Mirage. Almost the same minus different programming.
Good point!
My problem is solved : I have the 5 speed manual .But if I would have bought with the cvt I might have added a transmission oil cooler which seems to be Jatco's solution on their recent cvt gearbox model
This does come with a small cooler if I remember correctly, but the weight of the Mirage is 1000 pounds less than the other models that are using it and having issues. I think it's that more than anything that is killing them in Nissans.
yeah I wouldn't buy an NV200 to run a plumbing business.@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs
The Mirage already has a transmission cooler. And it is light and can't tow more than 250 kg. So Mitsubishi is on the safe side here. The CVT won't break on this car.
One would hope that the dealership would take as much care and attention to detail as you. Somehow I doubt it.
You would be correct. Flat rate kills quality. 95% of mechanics are stuck in flat rate and as a result, they are compelled to cut every corner.
The lowest amount of miles I've read involving CVT failure for the Mirage, was around 100k miles. That is extremely rare though, even with or without CVT fluid changes. That couple in Minnesota who got 400k miles out of their Mirage didn't mention anything about servicing their CVT, only oil changes, so like anything, in the end its up to the car gods how many miles you get, but doing this type of servicing greatly puts the odds in your favor of netting 200k miles.
Makes me wonder what the unit that died at 100K was used for.
The CVT started acting up on my 2014 Mirage around 40k miles. I did have the fluid changed at 30k at the dealership. The car was lurching/lugging really badly at low RPMs. I've seen this issue with other Mirages as well. There's actually a vid somewhere on youtube of someone doing a hard acceleration run in their Mirage and it was acting the same way.
My aunt’s 2014 Mitsubishi Mirage has 184k miles on it and she’s changed the oil every 5k mi and the cvt fluid every 20k mi since she bought it new. She got herself a brand new 2022 Mirage G4 for herself and gave her old mirage as my cousins first car. That thing has never failed her once. Not one break down except for one time she ran out of gas. Oh and one time her tire blew. But overall a great car.
@@rocketshiftgaming5693 Awesome. I like my wife's G4 better than my hatchback Mirage lol.
Mitsubishi made some changes to the CVT around 2017 It’s the older ones that seem to have the problem. I change my CVT fluid every 30K with Amsoil CVT fluid It cost a little more but is the best CVT fluid on the market Lubricates better and has a much higher life span It also has a much higher flash point The inline filter is important to change also The one in the pan is not that important if you are doing regular fluid changes. I’m happy with my 2018 outlander sport Se I have not had one problem Not even a light bulb.
Looking a bit lighter on your feet Erik, l hope you are feeling that benefit, after rarely sharing in the past how hard you have worked your body?👍
I am slowly recovering from some... "Internal" issues. I am setup to have some of my own "Parts" removed here shorty, and I have no doubt that after I am done, I'll be nearly back to my old self, except the 50lbs I've lost. I don't miss those 50lbs!
Does it need to be running to check cold and hot level? Video said no, description says yes have it running. I plan on changing my fluid soon on the mirage. Dont want to check the level incorrectly. Thank you for the video
Yes, the final check should be done with the engine running, at full operating temperature and the car in park. Sorry for the confusion.
Butuh berapa liter oli CVT
Thanks for the tutorial, I just bought a 2024. Do you know if doing it myself will void the warranty?
Not at all. Just keep documents on the purchase of the filter and fluid and make a paper with the date, milage and who did the work (You). It will hold up in court, but honestly you won't run into any issues as these cars never need repairs!
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs cool thanks!
How many miles do you have on your car now? Any issues with the CVT at all?
I have about 25k, no issues at all with the CVT. I drive my old VW truck to keep the miles off of it- I want to own that car into retirement
How many liters do i need to fill if i change the underneath oil pan filter too?
I would check the owners manual as they will tell you the exact amount. I can't remember exactly what I put in
How come you didn't change the main (large) filter, inside the pan?
It's not a filter, it's a screen. If that get's trash in it, your CVT is toast! the screen cleaning is done every 40K to 60K, the drain and fill with side filter is ever 20K to 30K.
How important is the O ring? Can you reuse the old one during replacement? Asking as I accidentally broke my new one, but did the change and kept the old one for now... hopefully it’s good for another 20k!
Well..... You really should have replaced it, but in a pinch it's OK to reuse the old one. Just keep a close eye out for leaks.
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs Thanks for the tip!! i’ll look to replacing it on monday for the o ring.
How much oil for trasmisión 2021 mirage
WHat is the number of product with the O-ring, so I can buy it ?THank you for the video !
I mean what is the number for the filter, the number for the O-ring you already gave in the video - THank !
I'll have to look. I can't remember. Sorry!
Is it possible to make a video to change the transmission fluid on a 2023 outlander? I drive it a lot for work. Looking underneath, it seems it has the same filter housing as the mirage. Under the hood it has a port where the dipstick would go, but no stick. I don’t trust the dealer to change the fluid.
I would if I had one to change it on.
Question: Since these CVTs also have another internal filter which requires dropping the drain pan, does that one ever need changing if you are doing the paper filter and fluid change every 20K or 30K? I think the internal one is probably a metal screen type.
The screen type filter is a last defence item. If there are large pieces stuck in it, you likely have internal transmission issues. Still, I plan to take my pan down every other time I do a service to clean it just for good measure.
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs That's what I was thinking, thanks.
Hy could you please share links from where I can buy oil and filter online.
I bought both from sellers on eBay. I try to give my money to people that own small companies like I do. I wish I had links, but it's all long gone.
Just bought a 2024 G4 I hope it’s a good car reliability wise, my dad thinks it’s the worst decision of my life and I’d be better off buying a car for around 5k that has 150k on it but I beg to differ I’ve done my research I can’t find any used so people must like them and they must last I get it’s a mitsu so the resale isn’t a Toyota but it’s not a YOTA for a reason🤷🏽♂️
Did you see the article that ranked the 2024 Mirage as the best car to buy?Here's a snip it:The 2024 Mitsubishi Mirage has a predicted reliability score of 80 out of 100. A J.D. Power predicted reliability score of 91-100 is considered the Best, 81-90 is Great, 70-80 is Average and 0-69 is Fair and considered below average.
Is this the same procedure for 2023 mirage g4
Yes. 100%
Great video but I’m pretty sure the service manual says to check the fluid with the engine running …
Yes, after the car is driven up to temp, the final fluid check should be done with the car running on flat ground. Make sure the temp is at 180f.
Thank you! This is an important distinction. My level went from nearly the top of hot to the bottom or cold with 2.3
This video was informative but in my opinion you should make another one showing the correct way to check the final level. You just told people to turn the engine off on a jatco cvt7 when checking the final level and that’s wrong. If people don’t check your notes and try to do this job to save some money then there going to seriously mess there cvt up because the levels when the car is running and when it’s off is completely different. Please be more careful with your videos. Thank you for your effort in trying to help us regardless!
I'm not sure what else I can say. The final check should be done with the fluid at 180 degrees and the car running and in park on a flat surface.
Do you know if slight over fill would cause to Flash D and burning smell from transmission on a 10 drive after I shut off engine and pump ass it stopped
Wow. That doesn't sound good. So after you refilled it, you drive it to 180F (operating temp) and then rechecked the level with the car on flat ground and running in park? How over full was it? A hair over the line shouldn't do it, but if it was more than that, yes, it will cause cavitation and that means air gets mixed into the fluid harming the unit.
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs thanks bud due to phone my text was garbage, yes it had bubbles I drove from 6 hours from west Texas to Houston and had the flashing D, then it stopped, when car turned off for gas, I smelled the burnt transmission oil, and yes it did bubble at dipstick and is way above hot line I would say less than quarter inch, when hot and not operating but that was checking at night I will syphon some out thanks
How do you check the transmission temperature what scanner are you using thanks
TCM-- Any scan tool will work if they will read a TCM (transmission control module), if you don't have access, drive it for a long time 30+ minutes, and that should get it up to operating temp
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs thanks
What's the part number of the filter?
Pretty sure It's shown and read on the video. I no longer have that info.
Using mitsubishi Mirage g4 2014 model. It's been almost 60k assuming plus km since I have changed the transmission oil. So do i nee a complete flush at this point or just same as in this video should be ok?
I would do everything in this video, and then 5K later, do it again minus the filter.
Hey! I'm a new subscriber to the channel here. Looking in the market & I'm strung between a used 2015 Mirage @109k miles w/ 1 previous owner & and a little less service neglect. Or a used 2015 Mirage @ 68k miles w/ 3 previous owners & possibly a lot more neglect? This is all according to the Carfax report of course, but I hope any Mirage owners can give me some insight, thanks! p.s. I do a lot of DIY maintenance and driving, I'm hoping I can get at least 200k miles out of this vehicle.
I would personally go for the 15 Mirage with the 109K on it. These cars last a long time, and 200K will be no issue if you start taking care of it now.
I spoke with my local certified transmission and they doubled down that you have to drop the transmission for the filter change, no wonder these cats blow up, none of the shops are changing the filter!
That is incorrect. The screen (Filter) is located just inside the transmission pan. No special tools needed.
Is there a screen to replace as well?
Yes. At 40K I will do this same job, but also I will drop the lower pan to clean the screen. Honestly, the screen does very little compared to this filter, but I still want to keep up with it.
Do we need to replace filter on the mirage manual transmission like on cvt ?
No. The Manual Mirage has no transmission filter. Just do a drain and fill on it.
Do you know if this has a check valve when it’s over filled on cvt transmission
It does not. The only proper way to check it is at full transmission operating temp (180f) and the car running in park on flat ground with the dip stick. Any other way is asking for trouble.
Is this procedure also important for the 5MT manual transmission?
not until 60k and it is easier to do
Best car that most American don't want! That is the Mirage eveybody! It is reliable, it is tough in a way, but it is like a short ugly man in real life that nobody even wants to see past beyond the skin deep "exciting"
Agreed. People here have forgotten what everyone in the 80's remembers. Good cheap efficient cars are great!
How would you use a drive on ramp when you have to remove the wheel.
You can't You will need to take the drivers front tire off, so that side will need to be lifted by a jack and jack stand. Sorry!
If you drop the pan and replace larger filter...how much new fluid does specs recommend to replace??? Still 2.6 or a bit more? Thanks
It would take more. You'll also need the screen and a gasket or sealer if you want to do that. I still have 10,000 miles before I make that video.
@farpoint… ya estará ese video disponible? Gracias 😊
what about the filter in the bottom? (2824A021) that doesnt get change?
You should do that every 40K to 60K its not really a filter, it's a screen.
Hi mate, sorry to ask but I’m scratching my head.. I’ve replaced the pan gasket and it’s still leaking a lot.. really not sure where I’ve gone wrong, I’ve torqued the bolts to spec. Hopefully you can shed some light 🙏🙏 thanks
Did you use a screwdriver to pry the pan off? if so, you bent it. It's a common mistake. Take it back off and see where the damage is. If you are lucky, you can beat the dents out, if not, you'll need a new pan.
You talk about 2.64 quarts of cvt fluid. When I look up mirage cvt fluid specs. I find that it needs 4 quarts. How can I verify the number of quarts required? Dave
The 4 quarts is if you replace the bottom pan and screen as well.
Should I run the car to heat up the oil before draining it? Thanks
Yes, that gets all the solids caught up in the fluid and also thins it out so it drains better.
I did the pulling down the pan replaced the 2 filters and a total of 4 liters went out. Put a brand new CVTF total of 4 liters. Now i noticed a bit of lag or hesitation when shifting from 40-55kms speed only, the rpm will spike from a normal 1.9 to 3k before shifting up. I also found out that it has bubbles on the dip stick but upon checking the dipstick the oil level is okay. What would be the reason behind it?
I think it's overfilled. Even if you took out 4 and put in 4, sometimes things are still not right. Best bet? Run that car on a good 20 minute drive and then recheck the fluid level on level ground with the engine running and in park. If it's even a little overfilled it can be as bad as if it's under filled. Pull a little out, or add a little until it's perfect!
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs thanks for the advice , i'll try it soon. Hope it works!
I am the owner of a Mirage 2015 provided with a Jatco JF015e CVT. The manual claims a content of 7 litres in the gearbox, but it seems like not even half of that amount can be drained. Where is the rest?
That is total capacity. You'll never get that much out unless you are rebuilding it. Most is stuck in the inner matrix.
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs Then I don’t understand the philosophy by changing the fluid. Half of the total amount of fluid is still old and will be mixed with the new fluid, which means that now all of it is semi old!
what is the function of thag external catridge filter though?
The paper filter I replaced here is the primary filter for the CVT. The internal screen type filter inside is a secondary filter that rarely collects anything.
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs Thanks.. I was going to as about that filter.. Saw a teardown of one of these transmissions... and saw that filter under the transmission pan.
Maybe every 40,000 miles it would be a good idea to drop the pan and wipe it out and clean off the magnet too.
That is my thought as well. Do the cartridge and fluid every 20 and the cartridge, screen and fluid every 40. Time will tell.
What about the filter underneath the pan?
The filter in the pan is just a fine mesh screen. I will go 40 to 60K and will likely look as good as new when you drop the pan. It is there to catch big stuff. In a CVT if "big stuff" is caught by that filter, you've got big issues!
The universal logic behind those suction side screen mesh filters in the pan is that if there is enough metal builds up enough to clog up that filter, then it is time for overhaul anyways. There are magnets in the pan to catch fine magnetic metals.This filter in the video is also known as 'control circuit filter', protects the fluid that is going into the fine hydraulic control circuits inside, but in time it ends up filtering the whole fluid eventually... You can put a magnetic drain plug just to get a heads up to incoming failure. Because you don't know what sticks to those magnets inside the pan. If you see little chunks on that magnetic drain plug, then you know the failure is on its way.
I recently bought a mirage and mine looks v redish and i feel like someone put in the oil used in lancer, what should i do now? Just drain like you did and put the right oil in?
you might have to do it a few times to make sure that you get it cleaned out.
With how much duration? Like change at every 10,000 km?
On the owner manual it says CVTF-J4 not CVT-J4 Are sure it’s the same?
The f stands for fluid. As in CVT fluid J4
Hi! I bought a 2018 mirage it has 128000 miles. Sometimes when I put it in reverse it shakes especially after I first start the car. Do you think I should get my fluid changed is it gonna solve the problem ? Hope you see this message. Thankss
You may be dealing with a motor mount issue. Have someone look at the engine while you put the car in reverse. If the motor rocks forward or back, it's a failed motor mount.
Should I check the fluid with the engine running or not? Your write-up says to check when engine is running but your video at the end says not to run the engine when checking because it’s CVT. Please let me know. Thank you.
Final check should be with the engine running. Sorry for the confusion.
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs thank you! I just ordered everything.
I have mirage 2013 model can I use this oil for
Yes, 2012 to 2024(so far) all use the same fluid for CVTs.
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs thanks for the reply
Just think a 300 dollar tranny service at a shop could save you thousands on the long run I have a 98 s10 with extremely high miles but the tranny is still going strong cuz I service it every 40k still has original power steering pump as well just and master cylinder just proves changing fluids saves money
Hello, I just purchased a Mitsubishi mirage 2017 g4 with 92k miles 2 days ago, today it started shaking or slipping while accelerating, I’m going to do this and hope my problem is solved, would you agree?
It couldn't hurt. In your case, I would also drop the bottom pan and replace the screen down there. Very easy to do.
Hey buddy do you have a part number for the filter
I think it's clearly shown in the video.
How many liters i need to put in the CVT because i buy an bottle of 5.5 lts
Get a case and it will cover you for at least 3 changes.
Is that the REOF11A transmission??
Mitsubishi Mirage F1CJB3 CVT Transmission