Stronghold Crusader Tournament - ~BRQ~ *NightMare vs ~BRQ~ FreZze | Round 2 [1080p/HD]
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Hey segiu msg me if you or anyone needs a partner for stronghold crusader! I'm not useless lol
For whoever is wondering about how this economy works. It's quite simple, since me and Freeze couldn't use apples or anything our food ran out very quick. Also we couldn't use woodcutters or get more wood. So we made those waterpots/wells to quickly get peasants, and after we've ran out of food we placed the tax on -24 and the food -8. Then we simply bought a lot of wood to make mills,bakaries,armor workshops etc. I also made those bad things to increase the bread production. (Note: bread gets very overpowered with -25 ff, but units get a lot weaker) After our economy was done we opened our inns again and started remaking the popularity. To make this faster I even build a cathedral. And in the video you asked why we don't make use of the other resources it's because; in the expert world you can just use your own resources. Because else everyone starts crying that it's unfair that you got more etc.
Thanks for clearing this out Nightmare, but still, if you can make use of the other resources, why not? I mean is your opponent problem that he can't stop you from doing that.
If this game would've been 2v2 you wouldn't use the resources either? Just use your own resources but since this is not hosted by some clan top expert nobody cares. If this would've been in the !Yu.GoD! tournament they would've kicked you.
Well,there was no rule that you cannot use everything on the map. If they consider that a rule, they should notify it and that's fine by me. But I didn't set such a rule,so, you didn't do anything wrong.
Yes, that's why I did it so.. :D
why no weapon eco? are two iron mines not enough for spamming pipe factories? and sergiu always talks about balistas .. the rule is no ffs ^^ but great game.. its like everytime the same.. if in expertgame where both players has good eco and the first hit fails, that one with better troop controll wins.. not real tactic..
So what I gather is that "expert" SH players are defined by how many mounted units + shields they can spam. Great shit.
ever played with someone there?
hahahahahah so correct
@@muhakazm i play all the time, using game ranger and I can confirm that I would crush both of these guys 2vs1
This is the meta. Smash brothers has certain characters that are used more than others. The game mechanics are probably not balanced when you realize the only way to beat your opponent is to use the same strategy. These strategies are created after countless hours of seeing what works and what doesn't.
@@Nehpets94 Well its proof that this game is inproperly balanced and designed. Just compare it to AOE2, where almost all units are used regularly and matches are exciting with numerous strategies. This game just sucks balls as it is. Needs a major patch to fix things.
That's basically it. You either build beautiful, fully functioning castles...Or you call yourself and "expert" and do MinMaxing.... Can't have both.
i dont agree on this, this 5 min no rush is taking all the beauty away from this game, 20 min no rush is optimal, you build castle and economy and then start to produce defences/ army with everything set that's the real game
i realy like these expert games i learn alot from them hope you will keep uploading them!!
Sergui you seemed to get very into this match as well as us at the end of the video ha ha. Intense!!!!
Nice gameplay.. Could you please tell me which recorder did you use to record gameplay since I can't get it on OBS. Saw this gameplay, wished to record some games of Stronghold:D
Hurray! This is awesome
Yellow's idea of protecting the lord: Isolate on a single pillar surrounded by a moat. One might think he was actually a prisoner XD I was admittedly confused by this match, but reading some of the comments below shed a good bit of light. Great match, btw!
Hehe , I did that to not let him sneak my king (he's expert on doing that). Thanks at all :) Frezze. LukaBlight69
is it still working on? how can i proof the expert player? i want join a tournament. i guess you never deny my talant. i swear.
I knew this map is gonna be great. I love scarce resource maps. Or just complete deserts. Aaaaw the joy of tight eco/war.
Great game, thank you.
so basically expert translates to spamming troops at the start by building tons of wood cutter huts and rushing the other opponent..
Epic battle, loved it!
Nice commentary!
Very very good. I love these tournaments.
Nice commentary and game!
where is round 2 simon vs smallman?
Such a fun game EleGiggle
13:00 horse archers with shields, against horse archers with shields. THIS FIGHT GONNA BE INTERESSTING
how you do make server
Who's Brad and why do both of them keep making him?
hahahaha
at the end why frezze didn make knights to fight back? no money?
How to join your server?
very very interesting match......gr8 gr8 moves by nightmare........every minute is enjoyable sergui thankz for bringing this to us.....make more of this make more of this sergui we will be very happy......:))))
I am very glad you enjoy it! That keeps me alive! :)
SergiuHellDragoonHQ Thank you Sergiu!!:)
I always knew that this game is unbalanced (but still love it) and this "match" proved that. Stronghold was ment for human vs AI and it worked. But human vs. human is sooo uninteresting (no offense for the players, it is the problem of the game). Does anyone know how to mod it to make it actually playable in PvP? Changing of unit status may be enough.
well the german community has a fan made patcher, also in english now. They can probably help you.
@@mauer1 Do you ples know the name so I can search for it?
@@milanpospisil8024 github.com/Sh0wdown/UnofficialCrusaderPatch/releases there is the english text aswell.
the game is balanced, as far as the map is balanced.
sorry for the noob questions. How do you replace your stockpile? And what effect do shieldsmen really have? do they have some AoE kind of protection? Thanks alot! I love Stronghold Crusader and can't wait for part II.
You have to destroy the stockpile and only then you can replace it whereever you want. Portable shields protect your troops against archers. They are very hard for the archers to destroy them but melee units can easily destroy them. :)
SergiuHellDragoonHQ I seem to remember not being able to destroy my stock pile, I'll have to try it out again as soon as possible!
hey you still play the game wanna 1v1?
Which programm you use for play online?
Ebbi Elna I use Gameranger. :)
i reckon the orange guy should have made an army of macemen and assassins. with these armies send the macemen in alone from the front with the cav archers he already had a way behind in order to bait him out of the castle and then sneak the assassins in from the back and just like that he's in a very sticky situation.
I beta tested this game but haven't played in a very long time. Was/is there much of a competitive online scene?
hi I still play stronghold crusader 1 can u help me with proplem I don't know how to solve it what to do if my army is at its maximum size how can I make it bigger
I've found that the less opponents on the map, the more troops you can have. As soon is a kill an opponent, i have room for about 200-250 more troops
+Wesley Preston thx a lot
ماكو طريقة
Whats a wood hooter?
gg very interesting match, very nice movement by nightmare.
u are from romania?
How do you move stockpiles and granaries?
Remove the first stockpile (beside the keep) then you can place the stockpile anywhere you want
gg, just i would like to see real battle :/ with all buildings :/ somehow i think this way game lose sense :/ i mena dont give me wrong just for me at least it is too much mechanic and less thinking, its like they learn every single step they make, i mean they probably did, and if anyone can explain me how this water pots and laddermans increase population i dont get that ? how that work ?
Some cool action in 38:00 , hmm , can i be a commentator with u ? Is that possible ?
When nightmare cant i mean , coz u seemed too tired in the end :D lol
Tech Loord Hey Shev, it'll be nice if you could commentate to. Or maybe play a game once with Sergui and the gang. You do need 1.3 though. :)
I will Be glad to , will let u know
that was bad ass.. and the 1st time i ever saw this game..!
Is it possible to play this game online?
yes
Thanks for subtitle indonesia
Keep the Good Things in an enclosed area? I've learned something new again :)
its a little bit better, because the people wont go to the good things to take theire break. They will just go to the fireplace to make the break. So its a good amount of walk time reduced.
Anybody used to play stronghold 1 on gamespy about 10 years ago?
I love how these peope are considered "experts" despite them not being able to play against strategies which counters this boring way of pvp. These people are not experts. They are just good at this way of pvp (as long as no one is using counter strategies, which these experts won't allow)
I remember this game
Essa maneira de jogar é desinteressante, e acredito que a dificuldade de tomada de decisão dos jogadores por exemplo quando o nightmare demorou um século para mandar os piqueiros cavarem o poço tornou o jogo mais entediante ainda, será que um pvp em roleplay seria mais interessante que esse metagaming tenebroso?
LMAOOO NIGHTMARE SAVAGE ASFCK, The way he build a to tower around his Lord LOOOOOL
Well the popularity buildings give combat bonuses and maluses.
they placed a wall around the ''statues'' as u called it. Isnt it a kind of cheating ? because u can also do it with the stone producer and gain faster a lot of stone
Vazgen Kartshikyan You are right , it's seems that this one escaped me. :|
+Vazgen Kartshikyan this is different, people still take breaks they just don't walk to statues.
yea efficiency is decreased besides tha fact that they can t reach the flowers
i wish i knew how to host/ join games in stronghold :(
Be without fear,@SergiuHellDragoon is here to help you: How to play Stronghold Crusader Multiplayer (Easiest way) - In Depth w/ Commentary
Use Gameranger. The easiest way to do it.
Is this original Stronghold Crusader or HD?
This is the original Stronghold Crusader. The HD version is bassically the version where 16:9 rezolution is available. :)
SergiuHellDragoonHQ And you got that from Steam?
Dávid Venyercsán Yes. You can get it cheaper from here though: www.g2a.com/r/strongholdcrusaderhd . It's an affiliate link. :) On Steam the game is 10 euro for me. :)
SergiuHellDragoonHQ Thank you! :) I can get the original (HD) edition + Extreme (HD) edition for 8 euros via Steam.
Dávid Venyercsán Wow, is it on sale or something? o_O
Hi would u like to have s match tomorrow?? Plz strong cru 1
haha I have found a player still to this day
are taxes more income vs. just selling off all the bread you make and having 0 rations?
taxes until -8 is definitly better than selling bread.
nice, nightmare is indeed a beast
serigue u r the best brooo
+HaCkErZ Of SoUl ThE GaMeRz AnD Thank you man! :)
np bro can u play stronghold crusader with me
but no doubt u r the best brooo
when i started stonghold crusader first of all i like ur page
no sneaky attacks. no early attacks. also there`s only one rule: KILL the opponent. period. its like they are playing that 'castle builder' way. (the option in main menu to just build shit without enemies) i`am so bored now...
Can i play with u a match plzzzz...
I think they really scrued up when they started stronghold 2
Not really. :)
Mr NightMare I really done like the games after stronghold crusader, except one but i forgot the name :p
Mr NightMare Btw, I am net saying they DID scrue up, just how i feel about it.
Wow bro
So many tips
the peasants will make random pauses at good things. those pauses cant be prevented but they will do them at the fireplace if they cant reach the good thing they wanted to go to for the pause.
How the hell is this game a competitive game??, this is a great game for playing skirmish vs AI but the competitive game looks weird as shit.and not very fun
Damn like wtf. They just broke the game so badly. Y u no play normally instead of legions of portable shields and wells and why aren't woodcutters allowed, this is nuts.
well thats the best tactic. its a balance problem in the game. you cant blame the players for using the best strat? PS: i pref the "noobgameplay" aswell
this explains why when i go on game ranger only like 20 people are playing this game at a time.....its ruined , 10-15 experts ran off the other 1000 people
FordFalcon1962nBlue Yes that is a big reason why not many people play multiplayer anymore but mainly its an old game I'm suprised anyone plays it anymore i love the game and i wish more people knew about it and played it but sadly its not like more copys are being made so Stronghold crusader players are rare to come by
there's many thing we can do to achieve victory.. this is the best way
Damn this is proof, that game is broken .... :f
hahhahahaha i love ur commeniation style man
2006 SERGIO
This is everything except how you are supposed to play this wonderful game.
GG Shield
only if commentation was better cus i prefer older stronghold games
Wasn't I the best commentator? :(
SergiuHellDragoonHQ Sergiu, that's not how you pronounce "woocutters". Since it's obvious you're from Romania, i'll tell you how it's pronounced in romanian: wood - "caters", not "cuters". It's from the verb "to cut", pronounced like "cat", not "cut", ok? :D
elvin pk Hey elvin pk , thank you for helping me with that. I will do my best to remember this. :)
SergiuHellDragoonHQ no problem, man! :D For a better understanding, you can type "cutters" in Google Translate, then click on the "listen" button for audio. Also, will you be making more Stronghold Crusader videos?
elvin pk Sure. I use that from now and then, but I was sure that my pronunciation was corect so I didn't bother. Thank man
yes yes☺☺☺!!!!
2014-2-15
Well it looks like nightmare gonna win this tournament.....
GG!! But what is that moan in 13:54-13:55 XDDD
it is event map make apple and fight
👍👍
Sergiu, tell me. How can u guys call your selfs "experts" when all u guys do is make a lot of water pots and spam a lot of assassins shields and freaking horse archers!? That's not f$@king expert. If u wanna see expert try playing Duc Volpe again. god damn
Hey EnderverseX , what is an "Expert"? After you give me the definition of it, I can give you a suitable answer. :)
And what's the "Expert" for you? tell us and we can reply here. Frezze.
SergiuHellDragoonHQ You seriously didn't think about destroying the gate with catapults and killing all horse archers with swordsmen on horses.
SylvesterrSan Catas were disabled in this match and since both players made knights in the late game it was hard for any of them to kill off the archers.
***** Why would you disable cats and if they did why did SergiuHellDragoonHQ give me a +1 that wouldn't make any sense.
where is the final match of tornament?? been waiting to watch it...u guys suck at organizing tornaments..final day match is gone long back
I know,there has been some technical issues, it took 2 days until I found a solution... Next sunday the video will be public.
okay semi final match too was left out
Sergiu, those are not fletchers. :D Fletchers are arrow and bow makers :D
And crossbow.
Just me
Waiting for host problem in gameranger my life is a price of shit
2006
I m happy not beacuse its intrested ..but bcoz of u lost badly
he is not even playing :DDDD
ниче не понял, но было интересно)
"expert vs expert" XDDDDDDDDDD That joke made my day...
Good game, but i just dont understand why are they making knights. Especially frezze because he had less gold... I know, you are going to say that they are for destroying shields and horse archers but you can easily defend from them with assassins or monks if you dont have much gold.
Freeze even wrote; Shit I shouldn't made knights vs you nm. xD
Defending your shields/horse archers with assasins/monks is dumb since they got no good defence against arrows. When Freeze decided to camp he allready lost the whole game. And if you want to counter knights without using them too, use arabian swordman and pikeman. A lot better than assasins or monks. :)
Mr NightMare Mhmm, i think no, i mean you are better player and you know better but when both players have ha then ha will automaticaly choose to shoot in opponent ha instead other troops, so you have to do that manualy, but to shoot in assasins you first have to get them out of shields, and to do that you have to do that with your kn too, so he can shoot in your kn too... Yes, they are less vulnerable to arrows, but if you attack me with kn and i fast attack and back off with sins, you will kill max 3 of them and i will kill 2 knights for sure.. And in your first attack with kn i dont have to get sins out Because i know you are bluffing xD
:D
oyeah
Multiplayer looks too mechanical and boring. The whole castle building aspect is gone
This is the first time I watch competitive Crusader, I didn't even know it existed. IT'S FUCKING CRAZY ! ;D I wish I could understand the reasoning for them building, well, the way they are.
I think you listen to what I commentate you would understand few things. :)
SergiuHellDragoonHQ Yeah, but only a few things. But for example, why was freZze building in the bottom right corner ? And what's up with all the bakeries and mills ? The wheat farms can't produce that much wheat, or are they buying that too ?
The wheat farms can produce that much wheat. :) He was building in the bottom because he got wheat faster there,and usually the Mills,Bakeries,Granary and Stockpile must be close in order to have a good bread economy.
SergiuHellDragoonHQ I was talking about the huts and the marketplace he build in the bottom right, which got destroyed by nightmare. I can't imagine any reason for doing that, there was no lack of space in his "castle".
He did that because Nightmare couldn't destroy those because of the peace time. He built those there because he wanted. no actual reason. :)
Water pots
gg
stronghold crusader is alot better than stronghold 3. in strong hold 3 their ruin it
Yeah they really fucked the game up in stronghold 3, they kinda ruined the series with the game
What are you talking about?! The game becomes 3 dimensional. The game is no longer low textures as in SH2. The game have destructive particles FFS!
But the game itself was worse, the graphics don't make a game better
vykintas Petrikas To be honest the graphics in SH1 are BETTER. You simply dont know what you want anyway. They just still didnt manage things like animations in the 3D models.
Metalbear Well that's what meant the "3D models" the "better textures" did not make SH3 a better game than SHC. What do you mean by saying "You simply don't know what you want anyway".
I hate this style of pvp. There is zero strategy to it. Just make the same thing everytime and not actual castle defenses .
pro player pvp is so boring -.-
WHY?? Why build so many stupid Wells!!! I mean com'n..How do people play, cant you just focus on Defence and Economy during the peace time???
I was surprised, too. I think they do it to increase the number of units they can produce at once (which is usually limited to 24, because thats how many peasant gather at your fireplace). You see, the wells act as a buffer for the peasants. Each well 'stores' 3 guys and when you want to make 100 soldiers, you just suspend all the wells (with one click) and get the peasants to recruit them as soldiers. Its pretty cool that people have these ideas of how to use certain game mechanics to their advantage, but I personally don't like how it leads to a pretty ugly (because unrealistic) city/castle.
I like playing a more strategic like, at least try to get the game to be more realistic, you know building a strong defence with sufficient resources to build stronger troops. Man the towers with mangonels, cross-bows and etc. March on with like a 'campaing' styled army to attack. Stuffs like that which I have been playing for more than a decade now..lol..but yeah I guess you are right, people have become more aggressive with this game than ever. :)
they are bad.
I hate this game
yellow very slow not shot horses and not kill pickers you need more train man you is very camper!!!
Frezze is bad
boring game
+ninjataisen have you played the game yourself?
+ninjataisen game is fine, the player is boring
yeah I've got the game but vs ai it's fucking annoying