Is Metroid Prime really a Metroid?

2020 ж. 10 Шіл.
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This was a simple theory I've had as a kid that I wanted to share with you guys. Its not technically 100% accurate, but thought it make for a fun topic.
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  • Before you decide to type in the obvious joke of "well its called METROID prime so yeah it is" please take a moment to watch the video since I discuss the origins of the name/title within the game's universe. ALSO do keep in mind that, as I said in the video, this theory is based on the lore of the NTSC version, since I grew up with it and didn't get a chance to play the PAL version much later (with the Trilogy version) Either way, I hope you enjoy the video and thanks for watching

    @TheOrpheon@TheOrpheon3 жыл бұрын
    • Metroid Trainer did an episode on what is Metroid Prime. It made a lot of sense. He claims that prime is a metroid that mutated into one of those phasing metroids from MP3. That's how it got inside. Then mutated into those jumping metroid with the armor and thus grew huge from the phazon. Or something like that.

      @HectorLopez-fq2jt@HectorLopez-fq2jt3 жыл бұрын
    • i guess the base creature that mutated into metroid prime and the fission metroids is the same base creature that the sr388 chozo use to create the original "bioweapon" metroid against the X. probably the base creature species got long ago to the planet phaaze and mutated there into MPs and are sent in leviathans to other planets. also the chozo could discover this creature on another planet and modify it into the x-eating species. i guess this base creature/species has maybe also flying abilities and also "some sort" of energy absorbtion in his larva stage, so the chozo modified them to work against "anything", even the x-parasites. maybe there was some sort of "discovery race" long before the chozo, luminoth & co. and transport these base creature along the galaxy/universe. remember how other species on planet earth colonize the planet like cats or rats - through human exploration.

      @SSJ3MetaridleyXros@SSJ3MetaridleyXros3 жыл бұрын
    • The short answers is no, but the information you seek is on pirate log, weapons and all the habilites of MP. They said MP is similar to the metroid, every time They figth the creature, the creature adaptes to the weapons that are use, even the strong élite are not problem for creature, the pirate log said the creature adap the weapons to the body and use weapon, in the end of the game before explote MP absorb the phazon suit the information of samus inside for the creature is no more creature stronger than the hunter that's why creature looks similar. Mi inglés es malo casi no lo preactico escribiéndolo, I like the videos thanks

      @miguelnavejar4354@miguelnavejar43543 жыл бұрын
    • The changes in logbook in PAL were needed. If you read the logs carefully you would've, even if inconsciously, realized there's a glaring plot hole as Pirates managed to access the Core and study the Metroid Prime despite it being locked behind 12 artifacts when Samus arrives. I think we can assume the findings they describe are canon, but the fact that they managed to get to these findings was retconned. About the idea of Metroid Prime being a.. well, metroid, there is something you failed to mention: Metroid Prime spawns metroids in the second phase. There's only one explanation I can think for this that doesn't involve Prime being a metroid, and it's that it can somehow absorb other lifeforms' genetic information (or something), hence Dark Samus. The likeliest explanation is that Prime absorbed a Metroid's information - and, for that, it means it actually came into contact with metroids despite being locked up - and learned how to spawn them in the process. Or maybe we're overthinking and Metroid Prime is, as mentioned, part of a plothole that can't be covered.

      @Eichro@Eichro3 жыл бұрын
    • The Chozo likely encountered the Leviathan Core worm when the meteor fell on Tallon IV. And then when the Pirates established their bases on Tallon IV, one of their Metroid specimens escaped and evolved into a Phazon Metroid from Prime 3. This allowed it to pass through the Impact crater shield, where it evolved into a Hopping Metroid and eventually into Metroid Prime. EDIT: Oh and the Metroid ate the Phazon Core, stealing its power of producing Phazon. Metroids are known to steal abilities in some games.

      @ultraspinalki11@ultraspinalki113 жыл бұрын
  • Ether way the metroid prime is still technically the final boss in all three games

    @gsg04@gsg043 жыл бұрын
    • Well no, Aurora Unit 313 is the final boss of Prime 3 :,(

      @TheOrpheon@TheOrpheon3 жыл бұрын
    • The Orpheon well yeah but I always thought dark samus was controlling the aurora unit from the inside of the unit. Also she does send out copies of her self too attack you during that boss fight. But in the end I guess it's just me wanting the final bosses too tie into the actual title of the games somehow.

      @gsg04@gsg043 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheShadowDragon777 in that case the Aurora unit would be more like an exo skeleton or armor or SUIT :P I also felt bat for killing AU 313 since she didn't choose to join the dark side but was forced to do so. I wonder what it feels like to be corrupted.

      @FrostbiteB83@FrostbiteB832 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheOrpheon Aurora unit which Dark Samus biologically fused...I guess it is still the same?

      @Yokai_Yuri@Yokai_Yuri2 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheOrpheon controlled by dark samus

      @luisrosado7050@luisrosado70502 жыл бұрын
  • I feel like Metroid Prime must be a metroid in some capacity since it can SPAWN metroids in the second phase of the battle. There really isn't a way around that that I can think of.

    @phantasm1234@phantasm12343 жыл бұрын
    • Good point!

      @DropkickNation@DropkickNation3 жыл бұрын
    • Was thinking the same, I'm surprised he didn't mention that in the video

      @MasterBuller@MasterBuller3 жыл бұрын
    • That is definitely true. And the Tallon IV leviathan is filled with fission metroids prior to the battle as well.

      @countlazuli8753@countlazuli87533 жыл бұрын
    • Jup, was thinking the same thing

      @florsch6781@florsch67813 жыл бұрын
    • My own theory and I've seen this is a generally accepted theory (not the accepted one but one many headcanon). Some time after the leviathan crashed on to Tallon IV when the Pirates had discovered the planet (shortly after their defeat at Zebes courtesy of Samus aka Zero Mission) and the phazon the meteor brought, and somewhat colonized the planet to mine this resource. They also brought some of their surviving metroids to the planet as well, and logbooks have stated that it wasn't uncommon for metroids to escape or wander off. It's also stated that when leviathan crashes, it attracts a native species which it mutates to become the leviathan's guardian. Now because the Chozo had set up the Cradle, a shield that contains the leviathan thus limiting it's spread and preventing any species from approaching the leviathan. Now we know that a metroid is capable of evolving into a phazon metroid (courtesy of the phazon), so one can assume that one of the metroids (or a Tallon Metroid) eventually was able to morph into a phazon metroid. Now phazon metroids have the ability to "phase" through objects and obstacles. So it's possible a phazon metroid was able to "phase" through the Cradle to the Impact Crater. It further mutated into a metroid hopper, which made it lose its ability to "phase" and thus was now contained in the Impact Crater. Eventually it was able to to further mutate thanks to the near-infinite phazon the leviathan was pouring. It was able to eventually morph into the Metroid Prime we know of and actually absorbed the leviathan's phazon core, thus gaining its ability to produce phazon...note the phazon core was probably long since dead since no guardian was able to come to it in time, courtesy of the Cradle shield. Thus Metroid Prime was able to become the "phazon core." My own 2 cents.

      @IamCanadian3333@IamCanadian33333 жыл бұрын
  • Might be a weak reason, but Phazon Metroids in Prime 3 can move through solid matter, so Fission Metroids got through the walls of the impact Crater in the same way!

    @phantasm1234@phantasm12343 жыл бұрын
    • Chozo probably sensed the worm (core) .... But it's possible the Chozo tried so many different ways to dispose of the phazon, maybe even using their trump card, a metroid. The core then chose the metroid to become the impact craters guardian thus becoming a fission Metroid and then evolving into a Metroid Prime.

      @murrayrystead4203@murrayrystead42033 жыл бұрын
    • Murray Rystead the fission Metroid splitting could also be the reason we find multiple Metroids within the impact crater.

      @Wileybot2004@Wileybot20043 жыл бұрын
    • @@Wileybot2004 totally ... Also remember the Phaze Metroids from Metroid Prime 3 Corruption. Those ones cause Phaze in and out. Possibly could go through walls, including the impact crater.

      @murrayrystead4203@murrayrystead42033 жыл бұрын
    • I feel like I’m the only one remembering the eggs in the boss room. One of the floors you drop down to has eggs in it kind of like the room in other M, all scattered about like a xenomorph nest

      @MrHydra12@MrHydra123 жыл бұрын
    • @@murrayrystead4203 The Metroids were not native to Tallon IV but instead were imported by the Space Pirates long after the Chozo created the containment field/the artifact temple over the crater.

      @georgebrown4796@georgebrown47963 жыл бұрын
  • My headcanon is that one of the metroids the pirates brought to the planet was infected with phazon so much that it became a Phazon Metroid, capable of phazing (heh) through walls, escaped their lab and was lured inside the leviathan to become the guardian, only that this metroid decided to eat the core and take its place.

    @eiriseven@eiriseven3 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah, I am pretty sure of that too.

      @ragnell27@ragnell273 жыл бұрын
    • Then why are there Metroid Prime husks in 3?

      @jesusramirezromo2037@jesusramirezromo2037 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@jesusramirezromo2037 At some point, Dark Samus brought some Metroids to Phaaze, as Phazon Metroids and Hopping Metroids (which look like mini versions of Metroid Prime's exoskeleton) are pretty common there. Presumably, some of them (ones that would have been Queen Metroids if not mutated maybe?) followed the same life cycle and development as Metroid Prime did

      @BroadwayRonMexico@BroadwayRonMexico Жыл бұрын
    • I didn't like this theory at first since it implies what we fight is just something that took the place of the Worm that plagued the Chozo instead of the Worm itself, but after doing another playthrough where I fill out the logbook, it's grown on me. The Chozo never really refer to the Great Poison they're facing as any kind of creature, and since they can see into the future, the Worm could just be the form they foresaw the Phazon Core taking when facing the Entrusted One. The Pirates also state that the Impact Crater houses a massive creature absorbing large amounts of Phazon from the core. This creature is very evidently Metroid Prime, and that description really fits this theory. It seems it may have happened quite recently too, since Fission Metroids are born from Phazon and they only start showing up after you defeat the Omega Pirate. I love how Leviathans can effect planets differently based on what's on them; Tallon IV would become a Pirate base in the future and therefore the core was fused with a Metroid, and for Aether, the Leviathan seemingly fused with the Luminoth's light energy to create a dark reflection of the planet. This also means Dark Samus started out as just a Metroid, which is super cool.

      @speedude0164@speedude01642 ай бұрын
  • Keep in mind in Prime 3, while exploring Phaaze you can find husks that belonged to other Metroid Primes. Considering Phaaze is full of Phazon Metroids (Tallon IV Metroids heavily corrupted by Phazon) and the fact that the Prime can breed Metroids might allude to the fact that a Metroid Prime is the Phazon Metroid equivalent to a Queen Metroid.

    @FrahdChikun@FrahdChikun3 жыл бұрын
    • I didn't think of that, I suppose since the space pirates phazon experiments massively disrupting their "natural" life cycle there could be a corrupted variation of a metroid queen. In Metroid Prime 2 the log calls them not Metroids but "Tallon Metroids", and these mutations would also explain how the metroids could be killed without being frozen and shattered while brittle, a simple power beam is enough to kill them eventually even if cold is still the best solution.

      @BlueAmpharos@BlueAmpharos2 жыл бұрын
    • To my head cannon the Chozon got a Metroid in the hopes it will drain the life force of the Levitation to prevent future spread. But it caused it to mutate from Phazon exposure resulting in its ability to absorb dna and replacing the levitation as the source of Phazon on Tallon IV. To explain why it has a face like a Chozo it had attacked a Chozo and absorbed its dna

      @mitchjames9350@mitchjames9350 Жыл бұрын
    • @@BlueAmpharos I think it's supposed to be implied that Tallon Metroids are normal Metroids that adapted to the environments of Tallon IV, but honestly now that I think on it I feel like the Metroids should have had another unique transformation on Aether. The only difference is that the Metroids on Aether have a unique membrane color, though, so...?

      @GarryDumblowski@GarryDumblowski11 ай бұрын
  • 2:33 *insert obligatory "why does everything keep evolving into crabs?" joke here

    @betchaos7383@betchaos73833 жыл бұрын
  • All I know is Metroid Prime was enjoying a very nice, peaceful life when Samus came and screwed everything up. Clearly Samus is the bad guy, that's a correct theory

    @The_Legend_Maybe@The_Legend_Maybe3 жыл бұрын
    • But if the Chozo wanted it to live, they wouldn’t have created SAMUS!

      @myleswelnetz6700@myleswelnetz67009 ай бұрын
    • Yea come to think about it, Metroid Prime wasn't really bothering Samus. It was hidden away in a sealed location. Samus could have just left it sealed.

      @knellycornnan5132@knellycornnan51325 ай бұрын
    • @@knellycornnan5132 I think the seal wasn't perfect and was still leaking phazon into the world. Plus, she had to destroy it before the pirates got to it.

      @AlphaCrucis@AlphaCrucis2 ай бұрын
    • @@AlphaCrucis yeea good point. I've since reevaluated this thinking since I last wrote this anyway.

      @knellycornnan5132@knellycornnan51322 ай бұрын
  • Orpheon: Is Metroid Prime really a Metroid? Me: It's actually Pennywise's ultimate form.

    @svagglaorde4387@svagglaorde43873 жыл бұрын
    • You thought it was Pennywise it was in fact, him, DIO

      @TheOrpheon@TheOrpheon3 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheOrpheon ZA WARUDO!

      @mr.shtinko983@mr.shtinko9833 жыл бұрын
    • @@mr.shtinko983 *time stops*

      @TridentIISLBM@TridentIISLBM3 жыл бұрын
    • @@TridentIISLBM One second has passed. Two seconds have passed. Three seconds have passed. Four seconds have passed. (continue until time unfreezes)

      @FuryMcpurey@FuryMcpurey2 жыл бұрын
    • Old comment but I had played Metroid Prime before reading IT, so for me yes, I had mentally inserted Prime as the creature’s physical form.

      @GrizbyK72@GrizbyK722 жыл бұрын
  • I go by the PAL version since I couldn't beat the game until I was much older. Then I played the Trilogy. My theory is based on the PAL version and by what I've seen in Corruption. The worm is possibly the leviathan core. However, once Space Pirates came to the planet, one of the Metroids escaped from their labs and became a Phazon Metroid. The Phazon Metroid phased through the Chozo seal on the Artifact Temple and infiltrated the Impact Crater. Once inside it absorbed lots of Phazon to become a Hopping Metroid, then it ate the Leviathan's core and all the Phazon within to become Metroid Prime. The Metroid Primes in Phaaze are Phazon Metroids feeding on the Leviathan womb's Phazon and mutated into Primes. For Dark Samus to obtain power, she absorbed the life-force and Phazon from the Metroid Primes in the area, that's why there's only husks by the time Samus arrived.

    @raitothetanuki@raitothetanuki3 жыл бұрын
    • I agree with almost all of this. The only thing that doesn't make much sense to me is how did the metroids got to Phaaze in the first place? I know Dark Samus kinda took over the pirates, so maybe this allowed them to take some metroids to Phaaze as well.

      @stefanoponce6090@stefanoponce60903 жыл бұрын
    • @@stefanoponce6090 yup!

      @raitothetanuki@raitothetanuki3 жыл бұрын
    • Also, Dark Samus canonically is a girlboss, don't gaslight us. (seriously, her log entry in Echoes refers to her with female pronouns)

      @stardy316@stardy31611 ай бұрын
    • ​@@stardy316 lol, it seems made a typo, since I always refer dark samus as she/it

      @raitothetanuki@raitothetanuki11 ай бұрын
    • By “the worm”, the Chozo were talking about the Metroid Prime.

      @myleswelnetz6700@myleswelnetz67009 ай бұрын
  • Me: sees new The Orpheon upload Also me: *insert Metroid fusion Ridley screech

    @matthewbrodbeck1523@matthewbrodbeck15233 жыл бұрын
    • I didn't actually hear it, but my ears are bleeding. Thanks for that lol.

      @RobertSeeJen@RobertSeeJen3 жыл бұрын
    • Crime

      @mr.shtinko983@mr.shtinko9833 жыл бұрын
    • I wanna give this comment a like but its at 69 so I'll just comment instead lol ♡

      @epictetushasepictiddiez2615@epictetushasepictiddiez26153 жыл бұрын
    • @@epictetushasepictiddiez2615 there ya go i ruined it

      @tacticalnut528@tacticalnut5283 жыл бұрын
  • Hey! I love your content as I'm huge into the Metroid lore. That being said, I think that the Metroid Prime is absolutely a Metroid. Or, at least it was. Here's why I think that: 1. I'm pretty certain that "the worm" is actually meant to refer to the leviathan seed itself rather than the Metroid Prime. -"born from parasites" Born from Phaaze since Phazon itself could be seen as parasitic in nature. -"nurtured in a poisoned womb" I'm certain that this references the "serpentine womb" found in the room called "genesis chamber" on Phaaze containing the infant Leviathan. Samus needed to destroy both the womb and the infant leviathan in order to reach the sanctum where Dark Samus was waiting. 2. It's theorized that the Metroid Prime merged with either the leviathan phazon core or it's remains at some point to get it's exoskeleton and phazon producing ability. -This theory could be supported by the fact that upon it's defeat, the Metroid Prime rips off Samus's phazon suit and merges with it to later become Dark Samus. -There is almost certainly some sort of connection between the Metroid Prime and the phazon cores since the Metroid Prime is seen hanging in a very similar fashion to the cores on the ceiling of it's lair. They also both produce phazon. (this point supports both your explanation, as well as mine) -The seed on Tallon IV did technically have a guardian, but that guardian was the Metroid Prime itself. It sort of functioned as the core and the guardian at the same time. 3. It's also explained that Metroids were brought to Phaaze by Dark Samus and the space pirates sometime before the events of Metroid Prime 3. Presumably between the events of Prime 2 and 3. -This could explain the husks found on Phaaze that are stated to be indentical to the exoskeleton of the original Metroid Prime. -Another thing to note about the husks is that while they are stated to be identical, they are much smaller than the original. This could imply that they weren't there as long as the Metroid Prime was on Tallon IV, or that they were the result of Metroids merging with leviathans that were not fully grown. The latter could be supported by the location of the husks being the genesis chamber which houses leviathans in a very early stage of their life cycle. 4. In regards to how the Metroid Prime entered the impact crater in the first place: To my knowledge, it's never fully explained. -A possible explanation that I've heard several times is that a particularly mutated Metroid that may have had more phazon exposure than usual became a Phazon Metroid(Similar or identical to the variant seen in Metroid Prime 3) and was able to use it's ability to pass through solid surfaces to reach the impact crater as it searched for more phazon. -The presence of another Metroid in the crater for some time could explain why Fission Metroids are found in the impact crater and are in fact, quite plentiful as well. -It's important to note that the Metroid Prime is capable of spawning Metroids in various forms, including: Standard Tallon Metroids, Hunter Metroids and even Fission Metroids, and does so during the final stage of it's boss fight. This indicates that there is likely at least some connection between the Metroid Prime and those various forms of Metroids. Particularly the Fission Metroids since the "Colour-coded" weaknesses are seen on the Metroid Prime during the first phase of it's bos fight as well. -I don't know whether this supports that theory much or not, but it should be noted that the Chozo's seal did not completely stop the spread of phazon from the impact crater outward. It did howeevr significantly slow it's spread, but phazon was still able to spread outward to other parts of the planet. Anyways, even though I don't agree with the theory, I really enjoyed the video. Cheers!

    @alexbridden1594@alexbridden15943 жыл бұрын
    • Glad you enjoyed the video, its a silly idea I had since I was a kid that I was happy to make into a video. Either way thanks for watching

      @TheOrpheon@TheOrpheon3 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheOrpheon Thanks for the reply. Whether I agree with the theory or not, it was a cool video and an interesting theory! Anything Metroid lore related gets and keeps my attention quite well. I actually enjoy when people theorize about the Metroid universe in any way, it gets me thinking and creates interesting discussions.

      @alexbridden1594@alexbridden15943 жыл бұрын
    • @Nick O That's cool that you had the same idea regarding the seed. After trying to find an explanation for quite some time, as to why the seed core wasn't there and the Metroid prime was in it's place and resembled it when in it's exo form, that was eventually the conclusion that I came to. I always thought that the Metroid prime had the ability(possibly through phazon based mutation) to absorb/merge with certain things or entities. I always figured that the seed core was at the receiving end of the same thing that happened to Samus's phazon suit. I love how Metroid lore gets us all thinking and talking!

      @alexbridden1594@alexbridden15943 жыл бұрын
    • @Nick O The Aether seed is a weird case. I don't know if it even exists anymore after the formation of Dark Aether, I'm pretty sure that the leviathan is gone somehow, but the seed core itself must have existed in some form, or phazon wouldn't have spread across Dark Aether. Supposedly the Ing were born from the impact of the Aether seed, so maybe whatever happened in order for Dark Aether to be created, as well as the Ing, somehow transformed the seed into what would become Emperor Ing? Or, an even stranger possibility: Perhaps the seed core fell victim to darkling possession and mutated further at some point after that? It's interesting to think about.

      @alexbridden1594@alexbridden15943 жыл бұрын
    • Think of the type of creature, monster, or villain that so long as there is a part of me there existing I can spawn myself there. If any of my power DNA has touched or copied a creature I can summon them or create them whether I am on the planet or not. If a part of me is in you I can manipulate you. This all happened Metroid prime 1-3 especially with Gandrayda, Ghor, and Rundas. There was even a whole story arc of how the race on Bryyo fell once the seed came, it is well documented in the lore as they too were being corrupted from the phazon.

      @EmeraldEdge72@EmeraldEdge723 жыл бұрын
  • Don't question Bird Magic

    @Nic5Cyprus@Nic5Cyprus3 жыл бұрын
  • Chozo logs never refer to the creature as Metroid Prime, just as “the worm”. They could be referring to the leviathan itself or even its core. Also the red phazon could either be a result of the core death, or the substances inability to leak further into the planet, becoming highly concentrated.

    @GrizbyK72@GrizbyK722 жыл бұрын
    • Good point on red Phazon, in my head cannon the Chozo tried using a Metroid to suck the levitations life force hoping to stop the spread but it ended up mutating the Metroid thanks to Phazon, it gained the ability to absorb dna resulting it absorbing the levitations dna and replacing it as the source of Phazon. To explain why it had a face like a Chozo it had attacked a Chozo and absorbed its dna.

      @mitchjames9350@mitchjames9350 Жыл бұрын
    • It’s like a worm in an apple.

      @myleswelnetz6700@myleswelnetz67009 ай бұрын
  • You said that Metroid Prime is the most powerful being given the Chozo's definition of Metroid being "ultimate warrior". After defeating Metroid Prime, it then views Samus as the this ultimate warrior. Proceeding to steal the Phazon suit from Samus and becoming a corrupted version of her. I find it pretty cool how the game leads up to Metroid Prime being the strongest enemy in the game, only for Metroid Prime to clone Samus by the end of the game.

    @ironmaniscool@ironmaniscool2 жыл бұрын
  • I can see two theories. 1. Fission Metroids/Metroid Prime were the originals and they were used by the Chozo to create their own Metroids to fight the X on SR388. 2. The Chozo sent in Metroids to deal with the worm, only for it to corrupt them and possibly even absorb their power.

    @hailhydreigon2700@hailhydreigon27002 жыл бұрын
    • I support the first version.

      @schwarzerritter5724@schwarzerritter5724 Жыл бұрын
    • I'm pretty sure the Chozo on Tallon IV did not have Metroids at all. They're basically the monk clan of Chozo that abandoned their technology to go back to nature. I see no reason to think they would have some, as they aren't stated to have any in logs, which seems intentional and would fit thematically. It far more likely came from the Space Pirates.

      @mophead1666@mophead1666 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@mophead1666 And one of the Metroids brought by Space Pirates became dependent and severely mutated by Phazon before it infiltrated the Chozo Cradle. While the infiltration is a mystery, the Metroids themselves are created by a Chozo tribe to combat the X Parasites and feed on them through pure energy absorption. Phazon is a biohazardous and radioactive substance with extreme energy potential. While the Tallon IV Chozo focused on ascetic monkhood, they did not abandon technology as seen in their ruins.

      @Aereto@Aereto Жыл бұрын
    • The second version sounds more reasonable, they could of used a Metroid in the hopes it would stop the spread of it absorbing the levithans life Force but the Phazon exposure mutated it and it gained the ability to absorb dna. This resulted in the Metroid replacing the leviathan as the source of Phazon on Tallon IV and to explain why it has a face it absorbed a Chozo shortly after.

      @mitchjames9350@mitchjames9350 Жыл бұрын
    • @@mophead1666 they could of easily made a Metroid.

      @mitchjames9350@mitchjames9350 Жыл бұрын
  • The lore from the US Gamecube release of Metroid Prime is not canon. The PAL version, and all subsequent releases like Trilogy have different lore that say that the pirates detected a lifeform in the crater but didn't know what it was. The US GC version is an unfinished beta. It has several outright broken things (the music for Flaahgra does not play, and Meta Ridley gets stuck in his charge cycle and never transitions to his "jump" phase, he also becomes invincible to anything but the wavebuster - that fight is SO BROKEN in the NTSC GC release it's not even funny). The lore in that is also an early unfinished version, when they had planned the story to go in a different direction than it ultimately did. I do think they ORIGINALLY intended for it to be a metroid, but plans obviously changed.

    @StormsparkPegasus@StormsparkPegasus3 жыл бұрын
    • It's authentic, official work done with the consent of Nintendo as a paid job. It's literally canon.

      @xyifer12@xyifer123 жыл бұрын
    • @@xyifer12 hows your logic make any sense. both cant be canon, so you think the one with only one release compared to the updated version used in every copy after is the only canon one?

      @JEANS__@JEANS__3 жыл бұрын
    • @@xyifer12 But it's not. The same developer released a new version that completely retconned everything and changed the lore. They even said that the original lore was bits and pieces of an earlier version, when they were planning on taking the story in a different direction than it actually ended up going. The PAL lore leads into Metroid Prime 2 and 3. The GC NTSC lore...leads into nothing because it was never continued.

      @StormsparkPegasus@StormsparkPegasus3 жыл бұрын
    • At the very start of the video he said he was not using the PAL version for this video.

      @Inferno144@Inferno1443 жыл бұрын
    • @@xyifer12 It's not canon.

      @Mabra51@Mabra513 жыл бұрын
  • This video is amazing! It's great how you just adressed a topic I had been wondering about since I played the game! Greetings from Spain!!

    @Gran.Estratega@Gran.Estratega3 жыл бұрын
    • Me alegro que el video te haya gustado. Espero poder entretenerte en el futuro. Saludos y espero que estes seguro (e visto las noticias de la situacion en Espana)

      @TheOrpheon@TheOrpheon3 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheOrpheon WOW, no sabía que hablabas español! Saludos desde Argentina

      @lautapinter@lautapinter3 жыл бұрын
  • Samus is Metroid just like Link is Zelda.

    @militantpacifist4087@militantpacifist40873 жыл бұрын
    • That moment when you realize "Metroid" means "Ultimate Warrior" in Chozo, thereby making "Samus is Metroid" technically correct (the best kind of correct).

      @TheEmperorHyperion@TheEmperorHyperion3 жыл бұрын
    • ZELDA IS PRINCESS!!

      @matthewbrodbeck1523@matthewbrodbeck15233 жыл бұрын
    • I think it make it more official in Metroid Fusion when she is in fussed with Metroid DNA

      @Darth_Revan770@Darth_Revan7703 жыл бұрын
    • @@matthewbrodbeck1523 ZELDA IS A BOY AND YOU PLAY AS HIM

      @totallyahuman5055@totallyahuman50553 жыл бұрын
    • samus IS a metroid.

      @BigHailFan@BigHailFan2 жыл бұрын
  • Metroids were created by the Chozo to combat the X parasites on planet SR388, but they also somehow found their way to Tallon 4. The Metroid Prime doesn’t look like anything from SR388.

    @myleswelnetz6700@myleswelnetz67009 ай бұрын
  • It was because the space pirates found a way in the crater without the need of finding the artifacts, you can find the entries for that information in the space pirates bases!

    @garrettwilson8471@garrettwilson84712 жыл бұрын
    • That's a plothole and makes no sense. They were working extremely hard to unlock the crater, why would they keep doing that and looking for the artifacts if they just went around the lock? And for that matter why would Samus need them?

      @StevoDesign@StevoDesign Жыл бұрын
    • You just need to scan for lore.

      @garrettwilson8471@garrettwilson8471 Жыл бұрын
    • @@garrettwilson8471 you're misunderstand me, I know the lore is there in the first release of the game, but the lore creates a plothole and they fixed it in later versions of the game.

      @StevoDesign@StevoDesign Жыл бұрын
  • Despite the North American and Pal version retcon issues, it's a pretty solid idea. I kinda like it more than just saying a metroid snuck into the impact crater

    @MetroidTrainer@MetroidTrainer3 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks Ed, happy to hear you enjoyed the video. I saw your video on the matter and wont lie that was inspired to share my theory (that ive had as a kid) that I have had for a while

      @TheOrpheon@TheOrpheon3 жыл бұрын
  • I remember some Pirate logs that mention Metroid Prime being discovered and at one point stealing and integrating Pirate weapons into its body. It even uses said weaponry in the fight (the missiles it fires, i believe). Not sure how that works out considering the barrier around the Impact Crater, though.

    @MetroidJr1220@MetroidJr12203 жыл бұрын
    • Prime could pass through the barrier at that point.

      @xyifer12@xyifer123 жыл бұрын
    • Those where the original logs But they retconed them, as they make zero sence

      @jesusramirezromo2037@jesusramirezromo2037 Жыл бұрын
    • That is with the NTSC version, the other versions didn’t have that.

      @mitchjames9350@mitchjames9350 Жыл бұрын
  • Two of my favorite youtubers uploading for the first time in a while within 30 min of each other this is awesome

    @eggburger5978@eggburger59783 жыл бұрын
    • Who is other one?

      @Anu_Sol@Anu_Sol3 жыл бұрын
    • Ye whom

      @Poker2735@Poker27353 жыл бұрын
    • just commenting here to get notified when they say who the other one is

      @omichillian@omichillian3 жыл бұрын
    • Please let us know :)

      @RobertSeeJen@RobertSeeJen3 жыл бұрын
    • Who is

      @kraid4208@kraid42083 жыл бұрын
  • I'll be honest, when I read the title I thought he was saying that the game metroid prime wasn't a metroid game. Oops

    @haseaopk@haseaopk3 жыл бұрын
    • Same

      @aegrajag@aegrajag3 жыл бұрын
    • me too

      @rbaron6394@rbaron63943 жыл бұрын
    • s a m e

      @MRtecno98@MRtecno983 жыл бұрын
    • Same, could have be slightly avoided if he used "The" Metroid Prime

      @SinisterSaintsExcellion@SinisterSaintsExcellion3 жыл бұрын
    • Same

      @Zula20000@Zula200003 жыл бұрын
  • 10:50 Did the Chozo not create the Metroids? Maybe they used some DNA from the Metroid Prime to create a new Creature like teh normal Metroid. That is why tehy called it the Metroid PRIME and the others simply Metroids. The Metroid Prime could be the Origin from the Metroids, after the Chozo made some Experinces with it. So they are related in some way and the Prime is not only the Source of Phazon, but also of the Metroids.

    @philosopher51@philosopher513 жыл бұрын
    • 0_0 I think you could be onto something

      @sergiopradosoria3785@sergiopradosoria37853 жыл бұрын
    • Yoooooooo that could be it!

      @megaplays2748@megaplays27483 жыл бұрын
    • I came here just to type a similar theory after watching the video. That the Metroid Prime might've been the "basis" for the Metroid research/experiments/creation that the Chozo conducted on SR-388. So Metroid Prime isn't a Metroid as we traditionally know them, but the Metroids we know could be (extreme) off-shoots of Prime.

      @SciFiBrony@SciFiBrony3 жыл бұрын
    • Your right that could also be a possibility and a great one too

      @juliocortez5531@juliocortez55313 жыл бұрын
    • That would be a really cool explanation. It is less contrived than a random Metroid stumbling into the leviathan seed.

      @R0-83-RT@R0-83-RT3 жыл бұрын
  • Here's a theory, Metroid Prime was the original metroid, and the Chozo created the more controllable Metroids using it's DNA but modifying it.

    @nathantylersturgill@nathantylersturgill2 жыл бұрын
    • The problem is how did it end up in the crater and why wasn’t there more like it? A better explanation would be the Chozo used a Metroid in order to stop the spread by having it absorb the leviathans life force but due to Phazon mutated the Metroid and it gained the ability to absorb DNA. The mutated Metroid absorbed the Leviathans dna and replaced it as the source of Phazon. This will also explain how it has a face resembling a Chozo as it could of shortly after absorbed a nearby Chozo. The Chozo than sealed this mutated Metroid to contain the spread and waited will Sami’s the warrior from there visions to arrive and finish what they started.

      @mitchjames9350@mitchjames9350 Жыл бұрын
  • Final Fantasy VII's spiky hair, emo personality and giant sword will always be iconic to me. Second place being the Team Fortress the 2nd and his giant minigun.

    @handlessuck589@handlessuck5892 жыл бұрын
  • Metroid Prime was a fan of the metroids so he took their name and he was just chilling in his crib the whole time then literally everyone in the galaxy had to come bother him >:(

    @clemente5798@clemente57983 жыл бұрын
    • and some metroids were hanging out and desided to help out metroid prime durring phase 2

      @andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780@andrewaftontheandroidhedge27802 жыл бұрын
  • What if the Metroid were Bioengineered in Talon IV, and then the final products were transported to SR388, so when the Leviatan crassehd, there were some metroid DNA samples, wich the worm used to become Metroid Prime

    @MrSecap@MrSecap3 жыл бұрын
    • Maybe the Metroids were based on Metroid Prime, thus making it their origin. This way the name Metroid PRIME would make more sense.

      @canmuller3437@canmuller34373 жыл бұрын
    • @@canmuller3437 Interesting, but the Chozo doesn't talked about Metroids at all.

      @F0ulimm@F0ulimm3 жыл бұрын
    • Could be another faction of Chozo that made those Metroids.

      @svagglaorde4387@svagglaorde43873 жыл бұрын
    • @@svagglaorde4387 It was. The group of Chozo that Old Bird and Grey Voice were a part of were separate from the group of their brethren that settled on Tallon IV.

      @LittleAl016@LittleAl0163 жыл бұрын
    • @@canmuller3437 yet how did it come to be? Better option would be the Chozo used a Metoird to kill the leviathan by absorbing its life force to stop the spread. The leviathan being the source of Phazon on Tallon IV and full of Phazon corrupted it when the Metroid latched on and mutated the Metroid to where it can absorb dna resulting it absorbing in the leviathans dna and replacing it as the source of Phazon. Also to explain why it has a face like a Chozo it shortly after absorbed a Chozo and it’s dna.

      @mitchjames9350@mitchjames9350 Жыл бұрын
  • There's one main gripe with this theory I have. Metroid Prime literally can spawn other Metroids in the final phase of the boss fight with it.

    @jamespeterson1630@jamespeterson16302 жыл бұрын
  • The "Ultimate Warrior" thing is incredibly fascinating. Really enjoyed your video

    @justingoble4980@justingoble49803 жыл бұрын
  • Really interesting to see you tackle this topic. The Mystery of Metroid Prime, the different impact craters and the husks in the Genesis Chamber on Phaaze still intrigue me till this day. There are still many theories.

    @DropkickNation@DropkickNation3 жыл бұрын
    • And thats kinda what I love about it, many theories that lead people to come together and discuss

      @TheOrpheon@TheOrpheon3 жыл бұрын
  • In the end as always: Bird magic v:

    @alejandrolopezmacip272@alejandrolopezmacip2723 жыл бұрын
  • With the Metroid Suit in Dread being designed to evoke Dark Samus, I think it’s safe to say Metroid Prime is a Metroid. It likely escaped from a Space Pirate lab, squeezed into the crater somehow and consumed the Leviathan, also absorbing Chozo artifacts present at the crash site which created its weapon systems.

    @kenji6492@kenji6492 Жыл бұрын
  • It sure doesn’t look like any Metroid I’ve ever seen before.

    @myleswelnetz6700@myleswelnetz67009 ай бұрын
  • i always just thought a metroid evolved to become metroid prime, and took over a crab like creatures body. and then took over samus' "shell" to become dark samus. At the end you even fight the squishy evolved metroid prime squid thing.

    @andrewplessas3516@andrewplessas35163 жыл бұрын
    • They weren't originally engineered by the Chozo with metamorphosis in mind. Aeion energy initially is what caused them to mutate and become feral on their native world. Metroid Prime / Dark Samus could simply be a case of mistaken identity. Cool in concept, but story wise makes little sense. Is it a metroid, or would it be more appropriate to simply call it, "That Thing" ?

      @Mannwhich@Mannwhich Жыл бұрын
  • Your one of my favorite creators and is the only reasons I played super metroid, zero mission and fusion, which are now some of my favorite games. Thank you!

    @ghostl3@ghostl33 жыл бұрын
    • Also shot in the dark theory's about how the metroids could have gotten into the crater after it was sealed; maybe they were already there or, maybe the metroid prime could be creating metroids and/or metroid eggs which could be another reason it's called the metroid prime It might not be a metroid but it can create them.

      @ghostl3@ghostl33 жыл бұрын
    • I am honored to be one of your favorite creators and extremely happy I was able to get you into the Metroid series that I love so much. Thanks for watching, the support and I hope you enjoy the future videos

      @TheOrpheon@TheOrpheon3 жыл бұрын
  • One big thing that you didn't consider is the fact that in the actual room on Phaaze where you kill the baby leviathan, there are metroids constantly coming at you. Metroids not only exist on phaaze, but exist abundantly.

    @anastaziuskaejatidarjan4711@anastaziuskaejatidarjan47113 жыл бұрын
    • Well the Metroids on Phaaze were brought there by Dark Samus and her Pirate Armada. Due to the high radiation, it allowed them to easily reproduce on the surface

      @TheOrpheon@TheOrpheon3 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheOrpheon Are you sure? Why would she bring them? I'm sure you did a video on this that I haven't seen yet or something.

      @anastaziuskaejatidarjan4711@anastaziuskaejatidarjan47113 жыл бұрын
    • How could the pirates realistically enter the atmosphere without PED suits? They'd be vaporized.

      @AltairEgo1@AltairEgo1 Жыл бұрын
  • Alright hear me out. Let's say the Tallon 4 chozo are one of the oldest colonies, the leviathan lands, Metroid prime is inside. Later on a few Chozo leave Tallon 4 to explore, find Sr 388 and use the Metroid Prime as a blueprint genetically for the metroids. Thus coming full circle, it is the first Metroid. Idk maybe.

    @BMW-sd6nn@BMW-sd6nn Жыл бұрын
  • Here's an extra tidbit for your theory: It was the Space Pirates who named it Metroid Prime. The Chozo called it 'the Worm.' How it even left the Impact Crater long enough for the Pirates to capture, study and augment it before it escaped and went back is beyond me though. Perhaps the Chozo's containment measures were less effective than they hoped and Metroid Prime could have always left the Leviathan any time it pleased, but stayed because that was where the Phazon was.

    @ShawndaPrawn@ShawndaPrawn3 жыл бұрын
    • When does it state the Space Pirates outside of the NTSC version called it Metroid Prime.

      @mitchjames9350@mitchjames9350 Жыл бұрын
  • *insert oh yeah mr krabs meme*

    @hunterhowell8636@hunterhowell86363 жыл бұрын
  • I've done A LOT of research into the origins of Dark Samus and Metroid Prime. So here's what happened from everything I've gathered: A Leviathan crashed into Tallon IV and the creature inside that's from Prime 3 was "The Worm". Skip to the timeline of Zero Mission/Prime 1, a Tallon IV Metroid, brought by the Space Pirates, escaped. This wasn't logged because escaped Metroids meant death. The Tallon IV Metroid floated around and ate phazon, mutating itself into a Phazon Metroid. Though never appearing in Prime 1, phazon mutations are unique and doesn't guarantee a certain mutation for Metroids. Remember no Fission nor Hunter Metroids exist in Prime 2/3, doesn't mean they couldn't be there. The now Phazon Metroid, with its unique mutated ability to phase through objects, phased into the Impact Crater and feasted on the phazon inside. It evolved into a Metroid Hopper, which looks very similar to a Metroid Prime. Problem with the new mutation is it's now stuck in the Impact Crater with no way to escape. It kept feasting, eventually evolving into Metroid Prime. Prime then found The Worm, ate it, and thus became both the source of phazon and also the Guardian of the Leviathan. Dark Samus was born with Prime's essence fusing with Samus's Phazon Suit. A mix of genetics of phazon, Metroid, female human, and bird magic. Think just like in Metroid Fusion Samus is part female human, part bird people, part Metroid. So yes, Dark Samus would just eat up SA-X. She even tries to free imprisoned Metroids in Prime 2, because she herself is a Metroid. The dead Metroid Primes around Phazon were Metroids. Phazon Metroid evolved into Hopper evolved in Prime. They're not as large as Dark Samus was because they never ate a Worm. The smaller Primes are dead because Dark Samus killed them all. She was power hungry, wanted complete control, and feared competition. Phazon and the Leviathans were hers and hers alone. Now, the biggest problem with using the American version as canon, there's a logbook that originally states the Space Pirates captured Metroid Prime and gave it weapons, then it escaped containment and went inside the Impact Crater, which is literally impossible as nothing could get past the Chozo barrier. If the Worm was Prime, it had to eventually not only escape the Impact Crater but also get back in YEARS later.

    @Caluben@Caluben3 жыл бұрын
  • There are logs that state that the pirates were able to reach metroid prime inside the impact crater and that the creature itself attacked them and assimilated many of their weapons and defenses. They could not defeat it, but instead used/manipulated it for the source of phazon. You can assume that they somehow got in contact of metroids and did similar things. Much like the Gravemind or flood in halo it reaches a point to where the creature can just warp, change and construct itself into anything that it has assimilated or needs to be in the moment to protect itself or deal with a threat. This is further backed up in metroid prime 3 where you encounter Ing-lings as they had already been assimilated from Dark Aether in metroid prime 2 echoes. Also like how a story says an entire species was wiped out it could be true unless the writer makes it so. In mass effect we met Javik last prothean, in halo 4 we met Didact. I am somewhat of a writer so I am very skilled in these things, so when someone says they are the last of their kind I never believe it until I have proof as that can be a false narrative tool. Just because a door is sealed like how the chozo said they sealed it with the temple doesn't mean there wont be cracks in their defenses. The pirates most likely found some way to get to the core as stated in their logs upon finding the creature. I am going to say while I like that all of us fans are reading into this and trying our best to follow and establish proper canon this is one of those things that you are all reading into far too much or just missing the finer details. Also Nintendo themselves doesn't always know what the hell they're doing so I usually look to the fans, but at times even they get confused. One thing I'd like to state is that Ridley can't die, he can be defeated but he can't die. It has been years since I read the thing but somewhere he said that his cells fed on the dead cells of other dead beings. This makes him like Cell from dragonball Z. Making a story is like putting together a working engine and at times requires considerable mental fortitude as well as the ability to think for others and other characters. It literally is layers upon layers upon layers upon layers upon layers of information. Like metroid games where you are the mouse in the maze! I welcome any questions that are story related, but for the time being I have to get back to work.

    @EmeraldEdge72@EmeraldEdge723 жыл бұрын
  • I thought the version that promptly imploded looked a lot like a Metroid, with orb-brain things and lots of gelatinous tendrils

    @saturn6784@saturn67843 жыл бұрын
  • I should do a full scan run of trilogy then, I’ve only done full scan runs of the ntsc version, I had no idea scans were different. Great video! I absolutely agree with your theory and had similar ideas cooking in my head for years. I always assumed the metroids just kinda showed up into the core when the space pirates did, then realized the space pirates never got into the core. Maybe they just went up to the crater and asked nicely and prime just opened the door for the metroids, much to the disdain of the pirates.

    @rosebarrett1267@rosebarrett12673 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah neither did I until much later when I wanted to read everything to have a basic knowledge before making videos for the channel

      @TheOrpheon@TheOrpheon3 жыл бұрын
  • How do i miss this? KZhead never notice me and its the video i been waiting for so long, great video by the way, i really enjoy your videos and how you putt your love for the freanchise

    @alejandrolopezmacip272@alejandrolopezmacip2723 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks, sadly KZhead's algorithm keeps changing and now I believe they just recommend you videos similar to what you recently watched instead of whats in your sub-box. Regardless I am happy to entertain you once more

      @TheOrpheon@TheOrpheon3 жыл бұрын
  • Depending on when they made the Metroid vs the asteroid crashing on Tallon IV. I thought they might have tried using the metroids to fight the Prime at first, and only sealed it after they saw it was not only failing, but the Metroid were mutating inside.

    @jawstrock2215@jawstrock2215 Жыл бұрын
    • Prime refers to the Metroid mutated by Phazon, it would make sense a metroid used by the Chozo to kill the leviathan by absorbing its life force only for it get mutated by the leviathans phazon and be able to absorb dna. This would explain how it became the source of Phazon as it absorbed the leviathans dna and replaced it. Also to explain why it has a face similar to a Chozo it could of absorbed a Chozo shortly after.

      @mitchjames9350@mitchjames9350 Жыл бұрын
  • Just a quick PAL version tidbit: The "crab" form is an amalgamation of Pirate technology the metroid prime gathered around itself, not its natural exoskeleton. I believe the pirates knew about the creature and attempted to weaponize it, only for it to absorb their tech and become nearly unstoppable. It's also worth mentioning that Prime summons metroids in the 2nd phase.

    @wolfgod6443@wolfgod64433 жыл бұрын
    • What about the Metroid-Prime-like shed skin he pointed out in Metroid Prime 3? Also the space pirate encounter creates a huge plot hole because the space pirates were trying to breech the impact crater for a long time, you can see a massive area around the impact crater visible through some containment field from the phazon mines and I remember them making a big deal about not being able to get into the impact crater. Samus still needed all the artifact keys to get in there and there didn't appear to be any other entrance from underneath when viewed from the phazon mines, so did Metroid Prime somehow reseal the impact crater that the Chozo sealed it inside and then trap itself again? It doesn't make sense.

      @BlueAmpharos@BlueAmpharos2 жыл бұрын
    • ​@@BlueAmpharos The shell can be explained in a few ways. 1) It's just a reference as you are about to fight Dark Samus (a.k.a. Metroid Prime herself). 2) Space Pirates are guarding the planet and their tech could be compacted into a similar form ideal to phazon, or 3) It is trying to create a new Metroid Prime...And it is, you're corrupted and can become a second Dark Samus, and they've got your stuff ready. Leviathan seeds make the strongest creature on the planet defend their core directly. If it was sealed this whole time, how does something from the planet enter to guard it? Why was phazon outside the impact crater? It seems like the containment was a complete failure and maybe helped the seed grow in safety. There is clearly some sort of leakage regardless. Space Pirates brought metroids to the planet, they experimented with phazon using said metroids. Metroid Prime, the title character, was the strongest and chosen guardian. I don't know if it stole or was given pirate technology, but regardless that's where it comes from. If nothing else, perhaps the biggest question is, where is the core guardian? Every other leviathan seed has one taken from the planet it lands on. If Prime is an evolved core, where is the guardian?

      @wolfgod6443@wolfgod64432 жыл бұрын
    • @@wolfgod6443 On further examination on the situation it seems the space pirates in future iterations of Metroid Prime never actually encountered the creature directly, as Retro Studios recognized that as a plot hole and retconned it. In the PAL version and Metroid Prime trilogy they use scan data to determine a creature inside the impact crater consuming phazon, which gives them two reasons to want to breech it but are unable to. This does give a new plot hole though however with "how does it have the space pirate technology?" then but Metroid Prime 3 answers this question with an exoskeleton suggesting Metroid Prime isn't the only one of its kind. How it can spawn metroids though, I have no idea. The more I think about it the more the theory of a phase metroid phasing through outside of its containment tank into the impact crater and merging with the core becomes plausible since the space pirates have had metroid specimens go missing in the past from their data logs.

      @BlueAmpharos@BlueAmpharos2 жыл бұрын
    • That's no longer cannon Those are from the original version of the game, and where later removed

      @jesusramirezromo2037@jesusramirezromo2037 Жыл бұрын
  • What if they sent the Metroid to fight The Worm and then the Metroid took its place from the corruption? Maybe a little far fetch, dunno. Either way awesome video! I didn't know about the corpses in Phaaze because THOSE DAMN BASTARDS KEPT ATTACKING ME! LOL

    @gerardoafw228@gerardoafw2283 жыл бұрын
    • It’s not far fetch, it makes perfect sense. The Phazon mutating it and allowing the Metroid to absorb dna would explain a lot as to how it replaced the levitation as the source and it could explain why it has a face like a chozon as it could of absorbed one shortly after.

      @mitchjames9350@mitchjames9350 Жыл бұрын
  • YES!!! Yet another new video. Good to see you yet again Orpheon

    @Poker2735@Poker27353 жыл бұрын
    • I am already working on the new videos, hope you look forward to them

      @TheOrpheon@TheOrpheon3 жыл бұрын
  • Lmao at the Giant Enemy Crab audio in the beginning, classic.

    @omegamanGXE@omegamanGXE3 жыл бұрын
  • Im not counting um "it" as a metroid the bastard was not made by the chozo

    @anwenlokier2292@anwenlokier22922 жыл бұрын
  • I have a thought. However, it's been ages since I played Metroid Prime, and even then, I didn't have a fantastic grasp of the lore at the time. I never finished Metroid Prime 2, and so, I never got around to playing the third. So this is based just on what I do remember and the information presented in this video. Let me know if there's anything I'm missing that might conflict. That said, I wonder if it's possible you're reversing the order of events. Rather than trying to figure out how the Metroid Prime ended up in the crater after the Metroids were created by the Chozo on SR388, what if the Metroid Prime is the origin of the Metroids were know and love? You stated that the Chozo foresaw the arrival of the meteorite which contained the creature, and they built the facility to keep it there. The Chozo, being the inquisitive, scientific-minded birds we know they are, probably went about studying it, and it is there that they found the answer to their X problem. Upon discovering whatever properties the creature had, I think it's possible they used samples of its DNA, which they then took to their lab on SR388, to create their parasite-hunting weapon, the Metroids. Only this was a version of the ultimate warrior that they could control. The Chozo may have even brought their knowledge back to Talon IV to experiment on the original specimen, to see if they could develop a way to control that too. This manipulation may have resulted in the Prime's ability to spawn the engineered versions of the Metroids. So in this way, the Metroids we know originated on SR388, but it also explains how they, and the Prime, ended up on Talon IV, all wrapped up in a neat, little bow. Unless, of course, I'm missing something big, and you can let me know what that is.

    @Rydax@Rydax2 жыл бұрын
    • How did it end up on the planet and there are only one of them? It’s said in the scans in the first game that it’s a mutated Metroid from Phazon exposure. Also Phazon originated from a planet that sends Levithans that spread the Phazon. More likely the Chozo used a Metroid to absorb the leviathans life force in the hopes it would stop the spread by killing it but due to Phazon exposure the Metroid mutated and gained the ability to absorb dna. The Metroid absorbed the leviathans dna and replaced it as the source of Phazon and to explain why it has a face that resembles a Chozo absorbed a Chozo shortly after.

      @mitchjames9350@mitchjames9350 Жыл бұрын
  • (Coming back to this after Remastered) The main thing that makes this confusing is that Metroids spawn from the walls and floors of the impact crater (and the impact crater also resembles a sort of hive), which, if the crater truly is inaccessible to everything, would imply that either those metroids aren't really metroids, or the metroid prime must be related in some way to the metroids. I think my guess is that the chozo based the bioengineering of the metroids we find on SR388 off of what they gathered from the impact crater on Tallon IV. I also think that even if I'm wrong, this is going to be explained in Prime 4.

    @brendopls@brendopls Жыл бұрын
  • BTW, the beware Switch HD Remaster Prime is amazing. The controls options makes a world of difference. Either play it with a Gamecube controller with the old controls, or motion sensored like Wii Trilogy, and Dual for modern controllers.

    @LoneWolf_Cub_Ogami_Itto@LoneWolf_Cub_Ogami_Itto Жыл бұрын
  • So... What if the Metroid Prime was the inspiration FOR the Metroids? thus the name "Prime"? They got the inspiration by studyin' the "Worm" that crash landed, and then created a creature to save 'em from a crisis (The X-parasite)

    @ShadeMeadows@ShadeMeadows2 жыл бұрын
    • That makes no sense also it’s stated the worm was born from the metroids hence a Phazon mutated Metroid.

      @mitchjames9350@mitchjames9350 Жыл бұрын
  • Maybe planet Phaze is the origin of the metroid, and the Chozo used the leviathan worms as a base to engineer the metroids we know today. The new metroids that specifically have an ice weakness and no longer produce toxic radioactive material.

    @adambrooks822@adambrooks8222 жыл бұрын
  • My personal theory is that phazon, showing its volatility through its impact on space and reality itself, also impacts time itself (relativity and what not). Therefore, if a metroid made its way to Phaaze at any point in time, then Metroid Prime being originally a metroid is more than likely the case.

    @wytchlexgaming7413@wytchlexgaming7413 Жыл бұрын
  • I'm not sure, if anyone will actually read this, but I really appreciate how much effort you guys put into your videos. They are informative, well edited and really nice to watch after an eventful (or boring) day. I just ordered four of your stickers (maybe one day I'll get myself some shirts or hoodies or a bunch of mugs) and I would like to thank you for sticking with us and providing us with wonderful content!

    @aecholapis@aecholapis3 жыл бұрын
  • Yes yes fantastic theory and I love the video. Your VGM choices are TOP NOTCH

    @tinotcg5815@tinotcg58153 жыл бұрын
    • Glad to hear you enjoyed the music and the video. Thanks of watching

      @TheOrpheon@TheOrpheon3 жыл бұрын
  • I’ve come back to this channel after a few years and I come to see that this channel still makes underrated, quality content!

    @epicgiraffe1703@epicgiraffe17033 жыл бұрын
    • Glad to see you are still enjoying my videos and I hope my future content can continue to entertain you. As always I will continue to strive to give you guys the best and keep improving

      @TheOrpheon@TheOrpheon3 жыл бұрын
  • I can’t prove it as I no longer have my original copy, but I remember a log that the pirates talked about an experiment they had that seemed to absorb their technology into itself. They never named it directly and it’s near the fight with the Omega pirate, but I always thought they were teasing Metroid Prime. After it escaped, it simply jellyfished through whatever cracks in the seal the phazon was escaping from. But this tech absorption would explain its armored form as well as its inclination to consume and fuse with the Phazon Suit from Samus.

    @crubexzero9283@crubexzero928311 ай бұрын
  • I speculated the barrier only blocked phazon or anything corrupted by it, hence how someone installed a save station in the impact crater while it still blocked the corruption from spreading.

    @Insurrector-jb3jb@Insurrector-jb3jb3 жыл бұрын
  • Since Metroid breaking containment is such a widely used trope in the series, and especially in Metroid Prime, I always figured that the pirates mining so close to the Chozo containment field gave some Metroids a chance to explore beyond what the pirates were aware of. There are many mishaps logged by the pirates, and I think one or two mention Metroids escaping, but not being recovered. With the way Metroids interact with different energies, it could be that a determined Metroid could pass through the Chozo barrier from a forgotten Pirate mineshaft or creature tunnel. I agree with Orpheon’s findings however, that Metroid Prime is not a Metroid. There just are Metroids in the sealed chambers.

    @camb06@camb063 жыл бұрын
  • Watching this Video got me another couple of Ideas! 1. What if the Chozo of Tallon IV had some Metroids of their own? The Chozo were known to exchange their technology and knowledge with other species, so it wouldn't be too far fetched, to assume, that Chozo of different planets exchanged their creations.Tallon IVs Chozo could've tried to fight the cause of Phazon with their own "ultimate warrior", before sealing the Crater. There's no Chozo Scripts backing that idea up, but it would explain why there's Metroids in the Impact Crater. That would of course mean, that their plan had backfired, just like the creation of metroids had backfired in the first place, as Metroid Prime aka "the worm" learned to control/create them as seen in phase 2 of the battle. Spinning that idea even further (even further from anything backing these ideas up), Metroid Prime could thus be a Metroid absorbing the original "worm" or the "worm" absorbing a metroid - the backfiring would be even worse. Chozo are known for doing things that work against their favor. 2. What if the Chozo didn't create Metroids from scratch, but based it on another creature - the larval form of Metroid Prime. Makes even less sense, no Scripts to back that idea up, but that would make "the worm" the basis of metroids, thus tying it into the family of metroids - and it would be a plausible/causable reason why MP can create/control metroids. As Prime can take on the meaning of "the first", the name "Metroid Prime" would then imply, that it's the "first" metroid. The base larval form of MP could've been a rather harmless, innocent being, with the capability of absorbing energy - unless mutated by Chozo (regular Metroids), or Phazon (Metroid Prime). Both theories are not backed up at all by the games or lore, and they require a lot of assumptions... but they could at least explain why Metroid Prime has a connection to the 'regular metroids', that the Chozo created. Let's see if MP4 will answer some of our questions - or adress none of them.

    @ohmygardner@ohmygardner Жыл бұрын
  • There was a peice of space pirate lore that was for some reason deleted from the trilogy version and in it, the space pirates explained that a mutated metroid escaped its confines. I like to think that somehow the metroid got into the impact crator and found the leviathan then mutated with it via phazon. Which would also explain why fission metroids are there, and why metroid prime can spawn metroids. I cant really find out how the damn metroid would be able to get inside impact crator though

    @epictetushasepictiddiez2615@epictetushasepictiddiez26153 жыл бұрын
  • Agreed, Prime isn't a member of the Metroid species. There's just a few points that I think should be added due to lore that could answer a few questions or clear up somethings: 1. I believe there is a log book entry/ Pirate data which states that Metroid Prime actually ate the core of the Leviathan on Tallon IV, which would imply IT was supposed to be the infant's guardian, but instead absorbed it's power, likely after being locked away by the Chozo with the Great Temple. 2. Pirate data also says the pirates mined into the Impact Crater and discovered Prime before the game began, and equipped it with weaponry to try and control it. However, Prime was able to escape the Pirates and make its way back to the Crater. To do so, it would have had to break through a lot of Pirate security, and burrow it's way out of the Mines. So it stands to reason that some Fission Metroid escaped too, following Prime's path of destruction back into the Crater.

    @Sketch_XR@Sketch_XR3 жыл бұрын
  • My personal theory is that the force field wasn't completed until after Metroid Prime escaped the Space Pirates. Some of the Chozo Lore found throughout the game was actually written by Chozo Ghosts who hadn't "turned," and they were also the ones who finished the Cradle and got the force field fully operational. This is based on a few facts I've gathered from the Chozo Lore. 1. Some of the Chozo Lore mentions the Space Pirates arriving on Tallon IV, meaning it was written after the Chozo were gone. 2. Lore that mentions Samus states that they didn't know whether they were witnessing past or future events, meaning that the timeline is unclear. They could have been watching her, and other events in real time as ghosts.

    @RealJustinReed@RealJustinReed28 күн бұрын
  • First of all, I really love your videos. There seems to be so much effort behind them. It is always hard not to stuck with the version of something that amazes you at first glance, so I assume this is what it happened here. The canon version of the story (PAL/JAP) tells that some metroid brought to the planet by the Space Pirates ended evolving thanks to the phazon that was starting to leak through the chozo barrier. That metroid managed to phase through the walls of the leviathan seed. Those cores have the ability to highly mutate lifeforms in order to make them their guardians until the leviathan seed is finally able to consume the planet and become a phazon planet. The guardians thing is explained in Metroid Prime 3, if I recall correctly. Greetings from Spain.

    @Raydaralu@Raydaralu Жыл бұрын
  • My theory as to how metroids got into the impact crater is that they were sealed down there by the Chozo. Metroids may not be native to Tallon IV, but that clearly doesn't mean they can't be on the planet...y'know...since they are So it could be that the Chozo sealed metroids inside hoping they would harvest the energy created by the metroid prime in an attempt to slow down the spread of phazon to give their prophesized savior more time This could have sparked a symbiotic relationship between them, as seen by the fission mutation, which was exclusive to the crater in the original

    @IssueInTheShell@IssueInTheShell Жыл бұрын
  • God dammit, you got me with that opening

    @lolschrauber@lolschrauber Жыл бұрын
  • other idea: The metroid found some phazon, ate it, turned into a phazon metroid, wanted more, entered the leviathan seed, ate a bunch of the phazon and absorbed the energy from the leviathan, became the Metroid Prime, [some blank spot of text about how the Metroid Prime got the exoskeleton, that I don't have an explanation for], and then couldn't leave

    @littlemonster7917@littlemonster7917 Жыл бұрын
  • In the game manual, it mentions the space pirates did mining for phazon, whos to say they didn't mine into the impact crater and saw all the red phazon and thought "I wonder what this will do the metroids?".

    @Jormungrandrserpent@Jormungrandrserpent Жыл бұрын
  • Heyo I missed ur vids glad ur back :D

    @nascour5991@nascour59913 жыл бұрын
    • Never really left, more that it takes me a while to make videos, since its something I can only do on my spare time

      @TheOrpheon@TheOrpheon3 жыл бұрын
  • Wish Metroid was more popular

    @Ilovefent@Ilovefent3 жыл бұрын
    • Existn’t, I agree

      @Poker2735@Poker27353 жыл бұрын
    • Varia Suit Fortnite skin :x

      @BansheeNT-D@BansheeNT-D3 жыл бұрын
    • You and me both

      @hibahhussain2944@hibahhussain29443 жыл бұрын
  • What if... The Chozo went to Phaze and made experiments with the phazon using the metroids, but Phaze radiated so much Phazon that the metroids overmutaded, killed the Chozos in Phaze and one of those metroids entered a leviathan meteor and mutaded into the metroid prime?

    @rocketmidbus6297@rocketmidbus62973 жыл бұрын
  • I know this video is 2 years old but yes, Metroid Prime IS a Metroid. Specifically it's a Metroid that was able to phase through the security of the temple. It then proceeded to feed on so much Phazon that it mutated and evolved into what would become Metroid Prime.

    @Metroidkalib@Metroidkalib Жыл бұрын
  • Prime on gamecube was my introduction to the Metroid series. I still have my old copy of the game

    @fallouttoonlink@fallouttoonlink Жыл бұрын
  • Since Metroid translates to ultimate warrior in Chozo, re reading the titles of Metroid games is very interesting. Ultimate warrior could mean Samus herself. It really fits when re reading Metroid Dread's tilte as Ultimate Warrior Dread. It implies that even Samus isn't safe against the deadly EMMI. Whether the designers intended this is unknown, I think it's Nintendo knew what they were doing.

    @jean-luclapointe5634@jean-luclapointe56342 жыл бұрын
    • Looking back at 1986's rendition of Metroid, it does, indeed, make sense. On that same note, does that mean the WWE star is a Metroid?

      @ArynBendah@ArynBendah Жыл бұрын
  • dude im legit jealous of the Metroid collection you have T-T

    @SuccSen@SuccSen3 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks, Ive been collecting for years nos, and what I show are only figures and games (i have more random stuff) but this footage is technically outdated

      @TheOrpheon@TheOrpheon3 жыл бұрын
  • It's possible that the Chozo visited Phaaze and actually created the first Metroid there to combat the threat of all the monsters that had mutated from the Phazon. Then maybe it backfired and the Metroid itself mutated into Metroid Prime. The Chozo's visit to Phaaze would also explain why Metroid Prime has Chozo armour - could've absorbed it from some Chozo on Phaaze. Phaaze is also described as being sentient, so it's possible that sending the seed to Tallon IV with Metroid Prime inside was a means of revenge to reek havoc among the Chozo.

    @ezrato@ezrato Жыл бұрын
  • It’s a puddle of Phazon in the form of a Metroid, and then of Samus.

    @myleswelnetz6700@myleswelnetz67003 ай бұрын
  • I love this bit of fan theory you put together. Now I want it to be true.

    @CharlesFerraro@CharlesFerraro3 жыл бұрын
  • Man I Wish You Hit 100k Subs Even 1M!

    @blitzim@blitzim3 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks, Im just trying to make yall happy! With that said, please consider sharing the videos and channel the extra help would be appreciated it PS Im thinking about branching into other games soon ;)

      @TheOrpheon@TheOrpheon3 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheOrpheon Oh Well Maybe The Legend Of Zelda Since Its A Pretty Weird And Amazing Game Or Mario Or Kirby! Your Choice You Do You Hope You Reach 100K And 1M Subscribers!

      @blitzim@blitzim3 жыл бұрын
  • To me I reckon the Chozo tried using a Metroid to drain the life force of the Phazon leviathan and it end up absorbing its dna through a mutation that occurred due to exposure to Phazon. And to explain why Metroid Prime has a face the Metroid had attacked a Chozo shortly after and also absorbed its dna.

    @mitchjames9350@mitchjames9350 Жыл бұрын
  • The are logs in the game that outright tell you the pirates had contact/experimentation with Metroid Prime. I'd say they found their way into the impact crater and had been experimenting with Metroids before you got there or while you were going through the rest of the game.

    @gatzdrummer@gatzdrummer3 жыл бұрын
    • In the NTSC version, also how come in the logs it states they can’t penetrate the barrier.

      @mitchjames9350@mitchjames9350 Жыл бұрын
  • i thought this was going to be a video talking about whether or not the prime games are "true metroid games" or something like that. was definitely not disappointed to see this was about the actual, literal metroid prime.

    @josemembreno3134@josemembreno31342 жыл бұрын
  • i love this idea! language is fluid, this group of chozo specifically split from the group on zebes. it makes sense there would be a drift in language

    @Chozo-Drifter@Chozo-Drifter3 жыл бұрын
    • It could also be a case when 1-word can be used in different scenarios. Like say ‘Bomb’ is a weapon that goes kaboom, but calling someone ‘the bomb’ has a different meaning (not the best example I know)

      @TheOrpheon@TheOrpheon3 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheOrpheon alternate idea: the tallon chozo had some spare metroids laying around and decided to seal them in with the leviathan because fuck they killed the X maybe they can do something about this

      @Chozo-Drifter@Chozo-Drifter3 жыл бұрын
  • Maybe, when first discovering the "worm" the Chozos on Tallen IV brought over Metroids to try and attack the creature, and when that didn't work, they sealed the Impact Crater. Explains why Metroids are found in there. And could lead to Metroid Prime actually being a Metroid. Maybe it mutated enough to beat the leviathan, but, eh.

    @Doughnuts@Doughnuts Жыл бұрын
  • Metroid Prime (Dark Samus) is literally just the entity Metroid Prime using Samus' Phazon Suit as a new body for it. I mean during the battle with it we see that it has the weird looking face under all the hard armor, but after we destroy the shell, we see the weird amoeba/octopus form that is fully defenseless. At the very end, it's only strategy was to still the Phazon Suit before it fully died and go into a hibernation. That's why we see Dark Samus burst out of the corpse of the Metroid Prime in the secret ending when you get 100% items.

    @zakuguriin4521@zakuguriin45212 жыл бұрын
  • 0:57 Oh God.. may history not repeat itself with Switch.

    @LosN209@LosN2093 жыл бұрын
    • Well for a moment it kinda did

      @TheOrpheon@TheOrpheon3 жыл бұрын
  • Dude, now I want to make a full analysis of Metroid Prime trilogy, by the way, I like a lot the video. I started with the PAL version of the game, the One of the Wii. Now I'm suscribed here

    @placidopenacastaneda7073@placidopenacastaneda70733 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks a lot for the support, it means a lot and I hope you enjoy the future videos! As always if there are any topics youd like to see or feedback im open ears. Hope you get the chance to play the NTSC version some day

      @TheOrpheon@TheOrpheon3 жыл бұрын
  • My head cannon has always been that "the worm" is indeed the leviathan core. However it either corrupted or consumed a metroid from the pirates to take on its more durable form. So for me the reason there are Metroid Prime-like shells on Phaaze is that Dark Samus still is the Metroid Prime, again in another new form that it stole. So my guess is if she is directing phaaze that maybe her genetics are influencing it.

    @tomdeneen4880@tomdeneen48802 жыл бұрын
  • Ohhhh, when I saw the title I thought the video I thought this was gonna be discussing wether or not the game "Metroid Prime" (and the sequels i guess) was a Metroid game, lol.

    @kosskatt5666@kosskatt56663 жыл бұрын
    • Lol probably should have been more specific

      @TheOrpheon@TheOrpheon3 жыл бұрын
  • I like the theory that a metroid had transformed onto a Phazon Metroid and phased through the Cradle and eventually transformed into a Hopper Metroid, thus getting trapped inside, and further mutated into Metroid Prime after absorbing the Leviathan Core (and thus being able to generate phazon) It's not that far fetched to think the Chozo on Talon may have a few metroids as pets (which the Chozo DID have)

    @Stormandreas@Stormandreas Жыл бұрын
  • wooooo new Orpheon video about Metroid!

    @allhailthewiiu4868@allhailthewiiu48683 жыл бұрын
    • Hope you enjoyed it

      @TheOrpheon@TheOrpheon3 жыл бұрын
    • I really did, high quality videos! Keep up the good work

      @allhailthewiiu4868@allhailthewiiu48683 жыл бұрын
  • ... just the other day I was talking to a friend about how Bomberman 64 The Second Attack always felt like a fever dream to me cause nobody else talked about it, and in the same month, you name dropped it just casually like that. Lol

    @SparkstarScope@SparkstarScope3 жыл бұрын
  • 0:23 I see what you did there, and I approve! XCX needs more love.

    @dragonmaster1500@dragonmaster15002 жыл бұрын
  • Dropping a like for that megaman Zx advent music

    @kwardstd95@kwardstd952 жыл бұрын
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