Joe Rogan - Exposing Social Justice with Peter Boghossian & James Lindsay

Agreed

Ditto

Hope they can find jobs cause radical leftists control a lot of academics.

Unfortunately, I currently have little hope.

@rewertzyy 1 NO!

No that's progressivism.

@@thaddeuscheeleyjr.369 no wonder progressivism has Bayer and Mosanto pay check.

It's ironic how many people have been called Nazis by these people.

@@thaddeuscheeleyjr.369 To be fair, this is extremist progressivism, and it's a small (but annoying and loud) segment. Boghossian & Lindsay are liberals in every sense of the word. They're just not off-the-rails nuts.

@@neilbradley To be fair, there's nothing extreme about it. They're writing articles and people are accepting them. That would mean every article was written by an extremist under your logic. All they did was show a logical conclusion that the publisher didn't realize until after it was published. And then the publisher got mad, that's all.

Jezus, what a great qoute.

wow.

He didn't use those words. The correct quotation (from Notes on Nationalism) is: "One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe things like that; no ordinary man could be such a fool."

Listen to Bret Weinstein and noir

2018: Haha, we made up the most ridiculous load of bull and these people took it seriously! 2020: The people that took this too seriously have all been elected to office and are now passing laws based on these fake research papers.

I completely agree! I applaud these guys for doing this!!!

@@kopasedik with you on this one brother. Thats the most disturbing thing because (although f$%kin hilarious) this needed to be highlighted and made common knowledge before it got used exactly how you stated. Sad, but true.

It exposes the core of the tyrannical cult we find ourselves subject to right now. It would be like exposing the Christian Bible as a complete fraud somehow; it undermines the entire ideology.

Good title for a thesis

total madlads

True

Why the fuck do people say friggin so fucking lame lol

@@worldisfilledb no one cares what you friggin think

Heard that statement as i read this comment

Are there even 10,000 dogs hanging out in parks, in Portland, Oregon?

That was gold lol

@@daviddavis7752 Same people and same dogs every week for probably 90% of the time. The chances of their being almost 10,000 different dogs visiting the park are not very good at all.

bigrigbob2010 depends on the city and how long they where there and blah blah blah.

I hate to say you are right, but, you are right.

Yes it has stfu

Exactly. Why is that? It's like that in too many instances. It's very discouraging. Why do you think that is?

@@acutecloudd7970 how has it changed? These fake scholars are still pushing all of the same

thekayanboy I think the change comes from continuing to expose the, to the point no one wants to listen. Once they seem nuts people will not take them seriously. As the media did with Alex Jones

My husband and I got backlash just this weekend from his siblings who are all gay. Even as far as getting kicked out of a birthday party and told to not come back until he can “accept” his siblings all being gay. He’s never really agreed with same sex attraction, but never loved his siblings less. Just won’t say much because he’s usually ganged up on for “not being supportive”. Most people looking for acceptance are basically asking you to wave a pride flag and want to have you see them making out with each other. Not being outspoken ironically makes them very angry. Coming from people who want acceptance, they’re not very accepting when your opinion and feelings doesn’t align with what they want. Sure I’d love for my husband to be okay with them but he’s still entitled to how he feels. They just want everyone to agree with them and if you don’t, you’re hated.

Flash forward another year and it’s got 40x worse

@@SamuraiSilverhand like compound interest but with stupidity. Its psychological warfare.

@@maryssa8593 I really appreciate your comment. Tolerance and acceptance are not the same thing, but the path to acceptance is tolerance, and I can read from your comment that your husband displays great tolerance, and his siblings need to learn a lot about the acceptance they are demanding. My hope is that in the future the siblings will learn from him and gain some understanding about love, because from what I can read from your post, he nailed it, he still loves them and that is all that matters .

​@@SamuraiSilverhand flash forward one more, still getting worse lol

Facts

Agreed it’s terrifying

This is only confirming how crazy people are.

I go to a progressive school (Endicott College) and it’s just embarrassing to vocalize all of the things we have had to “learn” it has basically been 3 1/2 years of a fuzzy, furry, progressive echo chamber which only teaches their students through a liberal scope. Conservative voices are suppressed too often where i’m from and it’s getting worse and worse.

That was my reaction: Hahahahahha oh.......

Right up there with Trump.

bantmasters**

@@HarryBalzak Completely different though. These guys arnt so much trolling as they are proving the holes in the educational system. I guess you could argue that Trump exposed holes in the political system, but I don't think that was what he was trying to accomplish.

@@hello93617 Exactly. They did what they did to prove a point not for a laugh (although you obviously have to laugh afterwards at pulling off something that absurd)

Trump's speechwriters right here. Expert level trolling.

I used to write practice SATs for a college prep company, and there was a serious talk about using gender neutral pronouns in our materials.

@@0mnicide Cry more. How is this even an issue?

Your heroes infected your workplace?

@@b.6.7.f.h. how is this an issue? Wtf are you talking about ? They literally made up BULLSHIT and submitted ACADEMIC SCIENTIFIC PAPERS to these social scientist studies and got accepted and praised

@@b.6.7.f.h. Because it proves people who are supposed to be academics are actually cult members.

Memories of the Fight Club airplane scene discussing costs of auto safety recalls VS cheaper insurance payouts on deaths. *A big one.*

@@j_freed Oh God ... Never seen 'Fight Club', but I do know exactly what you are referring to ... If memory serves me correctly, Ford produced a car in the late '60s called the Pinto, that crash tests (and actual accidents) showed that in a rear-end collision, due to a design flaw, the fuel tank was likely to rupture, causing the car to burst into flames. Due to, perhaps still, largest tort claim in legal history, internal documents showed that Ford did a cost analysis, and worked out it was cheaper to pay out on the insurance claims in the event of a crash, than it was to recall, and rectify, every single Pinto made with that fault. Even now, more than 45 years later, it still is regarded as perhaps the biggest automotive scandle to hit a single car manufacturer ... [Edit:- Found the case, and boy does it make for scary reading ... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimshaw_v._Ford_Motor_Co. ]

I think some of those trolls are called PhDs and policy advisors

You'd be surprised how many articles from respected people are complete bs or statistically inept. We even have a club at my uni that just reviews these hilariously dumb published articles and discuss them 😁

University is a business. Anything to keep the mill running.

Blayne Bittencourt why do you say that?

KZhead and Google high executives are full those SJW types who will blindly promote 'diversity' without any provable merit.

MAGNUM DONG first of there’s nothing wrong with diversity and this podcast is more of a middle ground than a right wing one like crowders KZhead or Bens

@fullm3tal90 the problem with SJWs is that anything not left enough for them is just right wing. "everything is racist, everything is sexist".

Yep. And to be logically consistent, SJWs *must* believe that everyone who was alive before, say, 1960 was a moral monster ... except for maybe John Brown who literally murdered men, women and children to end slavery. That is what they will do to us eventually.

I watch this twice a year ...

If Obama can get a Peace Prize for being black, they probably wont.

Too bad Nobel Prizes are guilt awards that are as PC as the Oscars

That’s true. The Nobel prize completely devalued itself.

John Wilburn So should they get a Nobel Prize or shouldn’t they? Make up your mind...

I file that award under “who cares.” I just want notoriety brought to this work.

I loved that show. Now Noone knows what I'm talking about

NewsRadio was great.

Yea, i was fan

I seen him on Just Shoot Me that one time he was on and his when I heard his podcast all these years later (and having watched that show through many times over the years) I recognised his voice (i know that voice somewhere, then eventually got it), have then since found out about other shows and things he has done that are of course way more important than one guest appearance lol.

24 years ago but I agree

We need new universities run by people like these guys. Come on Elon pony up!

Not to mention taxpayer funded.

dude I felt that way... I took like 2 or 3 electives in my old uni and community college for the free A's... honestly felt disgusted by what was being said and echoed in them...

Just remember, school is not for intelligent people

I should have done what you did while I was in graduate school. Actually I did to a certain extent, but I just couldn't go on with the bullshit even though it was getting me good grades and I quit...

I took “women in film” and “women in other cultures” in college and they were both basically classes about feminism. All I had to do was say white men were terrible and got A’s no problem

same thing in biology these days

Fill your papers with Woke horseshit. That's what I did. For my Film Studies course I had to write a script and I just filled it with Woke nonsense: made the protagonist a lesbian, over the top strong, straight white male villain, etc etc. The script itself was utter garbage but it ticked all the Woke boxes. I got an A. Once you know the Woke language it's surprisingly easy to use it to your advantage.

All you gotta do is make your woke teachers think you agree with them. I took social sciences at Harold Washington college in downtown chicago, and we were essentially being indoctrinated with post modernist ideology. I bought into at 22 but Im 32 now and see how bullshit that class was. All I wrote for my final exam essay was about Americas racist history and how its created white privilege and got a 100%.

@@JadeRunner yeah i got a 96% for an essay in gender studies because i put all the woke talking points that i learned about feminism from Crowder

I honestly don't think the establishment will say anything because they don't want to be exposed. I think they're just hoping that these guys (and Helen) disappear and the story goes away like it never happened.

Whats sad is nothing has changed.....a little kick up and then it dropped of and things returned to normal

Most of the establishment does not agree with the social science intellectuals.

@@sonny0888 Update on this one… Boghossian resigned from his university due to ongoing harassment…

🔥🔥🔥

Describes all network news channels.

Describes all network/ mainstream news networks

Taylor Lemoine he’s saying that they are bad but fox isn’t any better either. They all suck

@@JB-423 true

Taylor Lemoine again, Fox News has just as much if not more of a partisan agenda and they push for false narratives too. Just because they’re not on the left doesn’t mean they’re any worse

@Got Kowal what's that supposed to mean

Just like the church

@@justinlund1974 *tips fedor*

That quote perfectly describes Islam in Europe too

@@SeanConneryPimpShlap Yep. Thanks religion 👍

Oh the guy who didn't believe in all the bible, ook then

And the woman they worked with

... and don't forget the British woman.

AngryTas they are straight white men though so all credit goes to the woman. Right? That’s how things work now right? Or was that the 2025 timeline. Hmmm hard to keep anything straight these day.... even harder in 2025.... no pun intended 😂👌

@@alexparris7769 dude relax it was a team effort. Don't be an ideologue

@@alexparris7769 I think I get that you're trying to make a joke here

And they forced him to resign.

Machina Inc naw I’d still give it to 4 Chan

They won gender studies actually...

Dkill legends came to my mind also

4Chan already won 2016 and 2017 @@5541james

/\'Cypheir if I won gender studies, I'd use it as an anchor on the Mariana trench…

Yeah, & it's not too late to take a stand against these unhinged, crackpot, whack jobs who need to be thrown out of the education system & put on a watch list. What do you think of that?

Nuevoracism- great term! I’m gonna use that!

hi i am rob the fucked up part is they won’t be. They will be supported by the legion of retards known as leftists

There is a wikipedia page on this titled “Grievance Studies Affair.” It includes a list of all papers that they submitted, categorized by which ones were published, accepted, and rejected. The scientific journals are listed alongside the list.

What about you? Should your support of ignorance lead you to be publicly shamed?

@@justinlund1974 Could you be more specific about what ignorance I am supporting?

@@areola_ayatollah your comments are obviously in support of the SJW and the cancer it is spreading in the minds of Americans. That ignorance.

“Social Justice” is perfectly okay with blatant, disgustingly unjust things happening to those opposed to them in pursuit of publicly scoring virtue points solely for their own glory.

Indeed, he is very intelligent guy. What most amazing part is his mjor is Mathematics

He's one of the people of all time

He is a genuine genius.

@@Jackjohnjaynot arguing, but how so?

@@Freedom_is_essential1 You have to consider that he's a mathematics professor but is now commenting on social issues and is extremely well read on the subject. He has a KZhead site called "New Discourses" and he outlines all the influences on Progressive ideology. He knows his stuff and presents it in a coherent manner so anyone can understand it. Remember, this is a mathematician speaking on the humanities, ideology and culture. What impressed me is how he went from a hard line atheist, as a young man, to an atheist who understands how the religious narrative is and was essential to human history and how we see the world. An incredibly perceptive individual who would have been recognised as a Renaissance man a few hundred years ago.

you know you are in for some kinky bro love !

More than Patriots, Heroes. I'm looking on from my country and this is starting to infect our academic world as well.

The military teaches privates that Patriotism is terrorism. Not joking. It’s leaked recently but been happening for a decade. Easy to find

@cindybin2001 how dare he

cindybin2001 2 of the most honest things you can do.

JoeRyMi can you dumb down your comment for me please. I don’t quite understand

biscobisco it took me about half an hour to think about the original comment and I finally understood it, it was actually quite a simple comment but the wording confused me a bit. As to your comment I don’t think he was exactly saying that

^^^ As is the idea that you have no clue what they're talking about.

Skyler Drabing This was in WSJ, NYT, The Atlantic, and the Economist among other places. I’m just saying.

@misool Nuclear family? We're just gonna skip over the old view of the best version of a family being a man, woman, and child (mind you definitely not a black one)? Are gays and lesbians destroying the nuclear family? You have so many right wing buzzwords, but can you substantiate any of it?

@misool So just to be clear so there is no pivoting here, you acknowledge the model of the nuclear family is exclusionary in its concept. Going from that premise, can you show me the photos in the 1920s or 1950s of a depicted nuclear family that is not white? The issue is you're taking this literally, but even in doing so you realize the failure of the nuclear family to adopt to modern standards. Another aspect of this is racial exclusion by depicting this dream-like state of a perfect family in America being white. If you want to take this hyper literal then you've already acknowledged it is exclusionary. Can you defend the concept of the "nuclear family" being dismantled or taken down and what that means exactly? To me it sounds like as we get further away from this depiction of heterosexual white couple as the normal family, it makes you uncomfortable. And I asked you to substantiate your claims. I never said I hate due process or meritocracy. You already have this idea of me that I hate these things because I have dissented. Meritocracy is fine and so is due process. In an ideal world these concepts are fine. To be more clear, what I want to know is how is "Social Justice" destroying these things and what is social justice? The term is used a lot when people refer to an extremist red haired feminist on a college campus, and then conflated with anybody who supports civil rights. So explain to me what YOU mean by it and how the fundamental concept of "social justice" attacks meritocracy, due process, etc.

@madcheeseknight What do you mean by social justice though? Because getting people of color and women an equal shot at something by dismantling ill perceptions of them based on their identity is what I would fight for. This is also a dismantling of the "normal" person (heterosexual, caucasian, male) being the norm, so identity is not an issue on both sides of the spectrum (beneficial and detrimental) Victimized and marginalized groups become protected classes, because they receive discrimination for their identity. Trying to rid the world of discrimination in a social justice movement is not the same as elevating groups with certain identities over others. You're (3rd person, as in SJWs) trying to level the playing field. If the playing field is better for the general concept of "normal", then someone who isn't "normal" gets the same permissions or rights to operate in society, this isn't valuing someone over the other because of their identity. Its evening the odds. The status quo is someone being favored based on their skin color or gender. Social justice would seek to dismantle the very thing you're accusing social justice of doing.

Amazun!

@@Killopotamus You're a race baiting, virtue signaling, douche bag. You're seriously making stuff up to be that annoying left person that screams racist about everything.

Noah Namey It does make you think doesn’t it

do you know what an echo chamber is young man

Noah Namey the 3.7% is the ‘mob’, the loud minority who will mob anyone who speaks against their ideas. They will ruin your career and life with accusations of being Nazi, rapist or a racist. They are rewarded by the majority who appease them in return for being left alone.

@@OrdinaryJoe12 , the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

@@internetshaquille these people have no awarness of their own bias. Dong even try

@akakiashi a pile of their bodies in front of my doorstep when they try to collectivize my property.

It's called programmed suicide of a nation and it's definitely not a joke.

No, these folks want to burn the whole system down. These people are dangerous.

no .. it is a lot more than a joke .. its harmfull as hell ..

@John Doe not that bright, are you? If you do not pay for the property, then you lose it. The property tax is not capitalism, it's your government morons taking from you. You do not foreclose if you pay your mortgage but not your taxes. The mortgage is through a loaning institution, the property tax is government theft, and politicians love it. Collectivising property means you cant own it at all, so let's avoid socialism and let people have their things

He’s saying that their papers exposed hypocrisy about progressivism. It’s now okay or at least semi okay to to bully people due to the demographic they belong to. Just as long as it’s punching up and not down.

Pizza and beer for breakfast. Shiit. Call me up when ready, we push to make it an Olympic sport.

More like stop training, bazzinga

i saw it in time, your name looks like M E 2 (weeks ago) right now lol

@@tyty12345678910 lucky its me 3 weeks now

You're gonna have trouble catching up to those of us who have been training for years already.

Next to Rogan especially

He also has some ben shapiro mannerisms if you watch closely ha. Its ben crowder

Crowder looking math guy hahahhahaaf

He looks like Tim Pool!

Yes. And found an amazing outlet for their intelligence and a sense of humor.

Joshua Jung grow a pair

@@jamestodd1104 he is going to all the comments and responding. He's one of th butt hurt people that studied or based his life around this amd his ox is gored. Don't be too mean to him.

@Joshua Jung also maybe try actually defending your points you npc. Also he did flesh his points out. He thinks its the best clip on KZhead because it made him laugh. Fucking dummy

watch ben shapiros reaction to the dog humping article. he legitimately laughed harder than he did at Trump election result.

Hmm. Hmm amazing. Had me dead. Queen dogs in Portland lmao. Pure gold. How they even came up with this idea?

Actually, they removed all full episodes because they’re on Spotify now. Not being rude, just sayin.

Well said Lisa!

There are countries in which females are being systematically killed, circumcised ( if you can call it that ), abused, violated, enslaved. But females in Germany, UK and the US feel like they just don't have it good enough. Why don't they channel their abilities and influence towards those countries? Is it too dangerous for them to target the countries where feminism would make sense? Females fighting for rights not so long ago put their hands into fire. Now is just a hobby. I applaud you for not being part of what is actually hurting females. Which is modern feminism.

Yeah, like a few Ed Sheeran songs, but I will never call myself an Ed Sheeran fan. Too many idiots call themselves Ed Sheeran fans, I want no part of that .🤣

@Fhjthnl Lol Iuyo I can only speak for me. I have no issue with anyone celebrating who they are. But celebrating you shouldnt come at the expense or detriment of someone else. There is a distinct different between being proud of who you are and thinking what you are is better than someone else. A lot of what you have said is somewhat spoken in absolutes. Like all black people think the same way. They don't. Neither do all whites obviously. Or whatever race or category you want to throw up. The problem is focusing on differences and not enough on commonality. Hopefully a day will come when we can be human and leave it at that. Everyone's struggle is jusy that. I wish you well no matter who you are. You will get no hate from me. I hope that others will do the same. It starts w the little things. Be well.

Well said and thank you.

I don't trust Tony.

I know right?

But unfortunately it won't

Hopefully.

@@thugnificent9143 Awwww sumbuudee needs a HUG!

@@Yorrick09 mmmmmmm yes daddy

Yep. And all the so called peers who reviewed. But these guys need a fucking monument. Mount Rushmore?

We have always been similar. Unfortunately, politicians have a history of weaving hateful narratives, often resulting in us seeing strawmen as reality.

Right! LOL

People that are a part of the old economic left, like these guys, want nothing to do with the absurdities that "Social Justice" theory and "Feminist" theory have descended into.

The problem is that the NPCs don't think social views exists on a spectrum and that it's only binary (unlike everything else they believe), you either believe 100% like them or you're absolutely the opposite because they can't think for themselves and rationalize everything to fit into the select worldview.

People who identify as liberal and people who identify as conservative actually agree on most issues. It is the Democratic and Republican parties that are always trying to confuse the issues and get us to fight amongst ourselves in order to cover up for the fact that both parties are completely in the pocket of large corporations.

Paul Sharkey beep, beep, oh my god you are so brave and i agree with you beep beep

"SWJ" - Typo! Typo! Must Correct

Beep boop stunning and brave beep boop

>what is the NPC meme

Yeah, those fuckin' articals.

Not articles, peer reviewed papers that go in well respected journals of their field.

@Joshua JungIf it wasn't clear, i'm saying that the field is respected enough for 'academics' to get tenured positions and jobs in the HR departments of corporate companies.

God damned Articals