Two Farmall Tractors for $2400 | Will They Run?? (Sitting Many Years)
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Coming from a family of farmers, it warms my heart to see the old machinery being brought back to life! I'd keep the 400.
I’d keep them both. It’s like giving up a child so no way.
Yep, I would keep both ! You can't have enough old Farmalls.
I would keep the 400 the m is nice but I think the 400 would work better for you if it's a 400
Wrong keep the m
@@Steve-iw8yz Show us where the Farmall 400 touched you. It's okay. We believe you.
As a tractor collector, I'd always say keep both. However with your love of collecting things, what you likely really need are more covered areas before you need more things that really should be covered.
Some nice big tarps would help. I could not go to all the effort of getting something running and then leave it in the open.
@@almac2598 putting tarps on things just makes them rust faster
@@ASadSloth Not been my experience, we used them extensively when I was at sea to protect upper deck fittings, and now retired I live in a country with much more benevolent weather than this part of the USA, so things may be different there.😁
@@almac2598 oh, i don't live in the usa either 😂 but i have seen few cars that have been put under a tarp for several years and they have been rusted to hell after it
Covering with plastic creates moisture and that promotes rust. Best kept is dry and preferably warm.
"We're gonna pretend like we didn't see that.." Vice Grip Garage, anyone? Lol 😂 Love you both!
And Derek just did a tractor!
70 years old, these tractors are 70 years old, and they run perfect. International really made something that was stands the test of time, I wish they made the same quality today.
I had a mdl B and loved it!
Yes! New Diesel Creek to postpone starting my Saturday chores.
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Enjoy!
@@DieselCreek We will !!
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Now that spray paint cap was just sheer shocking genius, amazing how well it idles, wow .
I worked on a few 40s & 50s cars and I was wondering if it was missing the oil bath.
The perfect diesel creek video. Old rusty stuff that wasn’t running brought back to life by yours truly. Thanks for another awesome video Matt!!
that spray can cap "mixture valve" was the most genius field fix I think I've seen , keep them both if it was me....very nice old tractors :)
Pete at Just a Few Acres Farm channel is a person who works on Farmall tractors and has a wealth of knowledge about them. Besides what he shows on videos, he mentions where he gets parts.
Farmall Fanatic has a channel also
I love Pete’s videos! I’ve learned a ton from him
Maybe Pete would take the 400. If you decide to pass it on.
Between Pete and Diesel Creek, it’s a toss up between who is my favorite KZheadr.
He basically made a air diffuser think of the restrictor in a dirt bike muffler lol
This video brought back so many memories to me. Back in the early 60s my dad and grandfather shared equipment. Dad had a H that he used as a planter. My grandfather had a M with the tricycle front end and I drove the coolest of the three, a M with a wide front end. I started driving full time for dad when I was around 12. We moved off the farm after the crop came in in 1964. I spent many hours listening to the sound of that engine. I loved moving between fiends because I could shift into 5th gear and tear down the road. When you shifted into 5th gear I relived that thrill. At the end of the day the sound made by that engine was such so pleasant. There was something about putting in a full day with two of my favorite people and knowing you had accomplished something. After we left the farm dad would line up a job for me with our old neighbors. Every summer I spent many long days driving a 560 deisel. For some reason I don't have the same warm feeling about the 560 as I have for "my M". Thanks for the memories.
My Uncle had a couple of hundred acres in corn for silage rotated with Alfalfa And 5 acres in produce for canning plus sharing with family. He also had another 300 in bottom land along the river for grazing. He also had 64 acres and a farm house his mom owned and lived on( passed in the 80's). As young as 6 years old we would "drive" the tractor with him and around 11 or 12 then on our own. Some of the most fun was standing on a trailer full of cantaloupes and tossing them down to the cows as they ran along side us lol. White faces turned orange fast,
I just made a comment about a Super M on the old farm I worked on it would fly down the road going to another field or lunch if it wasn't brought to us. His housekeeper always made a huge lunch..
@@OldGrizz59 а молоко пахло фиалками ...and the milk smelled like violets
51:12 gas in open buckets 🪣 and you said " In the meantime. I guess I can check for sparks". ⚡️⛽️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💧
TBF, varnished gas doesn't burn easily. It'll still burn, but it takes more than a spark to ignite it
Varnish doesn't ignite easily..... it's like diesel.
My dad set open coffee cans full of gasoline (or as we called them, parts washers) on fire while welding so many times we didn't even bother trying to put them out anymore. Just watch the pretty fire until it dies.
Safety third.That minty canuck Peg would approve
spark check first sort that out first without it it wont even run on aerostart and flattening the battery and wearing out the starter wont save time.
Matt if you’re going to make one parade ready, keep the M. If you’re going to pull a wagon , keep the 400. If you have a piece of equipment that will do what the 400 does and the M isn’t a future parade piece, sell both and move on to another rescue.
As Matt rolled down the drive, all the other projects shed a little tear, the new projects get the warmth of the workshop, but with a very small amount of tinkering they burst in to life, a quick test down the drive made the project a success, some fuel issues but hey it’s a project, they now sit waiting for the next time when maybe they will be sold or put to work on an ambitious project up at the hill or out on the farm! Brilliant as always 😂👏👏👏👍👍
To my knowledge, 300s and 400s were painted all red. 350s and 450s had a white grill and white on the side of the hoods. Great tractors!
Yup. That’s a 400. My grandfather, father, and I farmed with a 450 for decades. It was only tractor my grandfather bought new. When we sold it a neighbor bought it and he’s still using it as a utility tractor around his farm.
I've been around dozens of FARMALL'S, and I can tell what model one is from 100+ ft away at 60 mph. I absolutely HATE when somebody puts the model decal on the grill, the rib embossed in the hood was formed special to curve around the decal. There's a book called " IH tractor ORIGINALITY GUIDE WRITTEN BY GUY FAY. he has all the decal placements shown the way they were installed AT FARMALL in ROCK ISLAND. BUT the tractor your calling a 400 is actually a 300, it's about 2 models after a FARMALL H. 300 is a really usable tractor. The order was straight H from 1939 to 1952 then SUPER H from 1953 to 1954, then 300 from 1955 to 1957 , then 350 from 1957 to 1958. Tractor Data has all the information you could ask for on-line on ALL those tractor models, lots of people bad mouth Tractor Data but don't bad mouth it, it will be right much more than ANYONE you know.
Don't forget to check the timing advance on the distributor. If they are seized, you won't get full power at higher RPM. A distributor left standing would be a Prime Suspect for seized Bob weights. Love watching your show from the UK. Cheers, Mike.👍
Good head,man,hate working on something that hasn't moved in 20 years ,as soon as you start em up every seal in goes to hell😢😢
Matt, you have to decide if you want to keep 1 or both of those jewels. The thing that would be smart is to put them under cover or at least cower them with something. You definitely got a good deal! Love your channel!
Keep whatever makes you happy. You can always sell later. I've found that sometimes you only need to keep things long enough to enjoy them and then something else becomes the thing that you need. There can be joy in passing something on to the right person.
That sound! There is just something so satisfying and damn near soothing as the sound of one of these running that damn good! Really miss hearing these and the Poppin Johnny’s all the time when I was a kid. Definitely takes me back to some really good memories!
Those old popping John's were something else. Just barely popping and still pulling. The had some torque.
Sounds great! Keep them under cover as they are so good. Nothing like old iron that runs. Keep both of them.
Keep them both! You're a young man and imagine what two 100 year old tractors would be worth by the time you retire.
As much carb work as you do you might want to get an Ultrasonic Cleaner tank. Put Dollar Tree PineSol cleaner in it and you will be AMAZED with the results! All the best! Great video!
KEEP BOTH!! You will regret it the second it’s gone, add two great tractors to your collection!!
My first summer of working, (12 yrs. old) my dad taught me how to drive an M. on our 110 acres. When I was 18 I was driving a D9 crawler pulling a 60 ft wide 36in disk on a 25,000 acre ranch. keep and restore the M!
I bought a 1950 Farmall C last year and rebuilt it. Rattle can paint job and all. Its a lot of fun owning one of those, people always asking me to attend events and parades. Enjoy.
My dad had a 1955 IH 300 Utility (smaller, but the same hood design as your 400/450) with a forklift mounted on the rear. Love these old Farmals and IHs!
Hi Mat: Geoff here in Australia, you got such a good deal on the tractors I would keep them both. Had 55 tractors once and I showed them but now I live in a unit and they have moved on, I really miss them, so please keep them and enjoy them while you can.
You get two frames of that spark at 17:11 and it looks awesome! You can see the light from it initially sparking on the illuminated engine and then you get 2 frames of it shooting forward.
Matt, install the duct to the oil bath filter and it will restrict the air flow enough to cause the fuel to rise up to the engine. Make sure the air filter has oil in it.
Well Matt, you sure have the attitude for fixing the old equipment. Slow and steady, front to back! !! !!!
Always enjoy seeing IH Farmalls rescued and resuscitated, Matt. Nicely done. I'd choose the M but you know their conditions better. I just like the looks of the M. Doesn't look like it would take much TLC to spruce her up and make her shine a bit without getting carried away on a resto. I've watched US Farm Report every weekend for years and their Tractor Tales segment and there's a lot of Farmalls absolutely perfectly restored. A lot of work by anyone's estimation. So the M looks like she'd take well to some simple pressure washing and some spit and polish to the paint. Degrease and change the fluids, plugs points and wires and as you said remake and reroute the added on hydraulic lines and put the starter switch back where it's supposed to be. A good buy for both regardless which one you chose to keep.
"As i drain the tank, we can check for spark!" I thought you were going to. 😁
My late father had one of the predecessors to the M tractor. It was the Farmall Special. Exposed steering shaft and gears with the steel cables that would apply inside brakes when you turned hard. Steel rears. Started on gasoline then switched over to kerosene once it was running. He used it to pull stumps on our property.
That sounds like an original Farmall. Many now call it Farmall Regular. The next series of Farmall was the F series. F 12 F14 F 20 and F30.
Matt, No Mater whether you keep them or sell them, “please” protect them they are in fairly good shape for their age, don’t let them rust/ wrought away sitting out on your property uncovered, were the time, elements, mice & critters can destroy many parts that are I’m sure are unavailable!!?? Great work bringing back to life!
Matt saves antique equipment it's his thing You don't have to ask him please
"In the meantime i guess i can check for spark" got me crackin' 🤣
When I was a kid, my grandfather had a 400. That thing saw the war! The starter went on it. For a few months, he parked it on the edge of a hill. It still had the rear wheel guards and a side mounted PTO for running things powered by a belt. My favorite tractor of all time. It still ran when we sold it 10 years ago. You got a steal for $2400. I was told one time that old tractors were timeless, as in easy to keep or get running.
For as long as I can remember my grandfather had a Farmall tractor. I believe he had the model H. I know I helped my dad fix and paint several. Wonderful memories.
Growing up on 100 acres of a hobby farm in southeastern Minnesota I learned how to drive in grade school on the seat of a 52 Ford 8 N and by the time I was in high school I was helping various dairy farm neighbors. I've driven just about any color of Green (Coop/Oliver or John Deer) Orange Gray Silver or Red that you can think of. The only thing that I can remember that I did not like about the Farmalls was #1 the fact that you did have an ejection seat that you were sitting on when you hit a bump and #2 I always thought that they missed a gear between 4th and 5th gear because once you hit that 5th gear it was off to the races and down the road you'd go. Some 50 years ago I got away from the farm life and got myself involved in electronics and computers and now in retirement, I do enjoy watching all of these various channels that take the time to continually restore and refurbish older equipment that I remember Ronnie so many years ago
When brazing or soldering brass like that you have to clean it real well with a wire brush and or sandpaper. Then use flux paste.
I love it when you dropped a gear on the 400 and it just pulled! I've got an AW7 and I'll never let it go
Genius idea with the cap. Keep the 400 to work and the m for restoration and show. You always need a chore tractor especially for towing your wounded adoptions off trailers.
SK&M IMPLEMENT SHOP used to repair and sell IH when i was a kid, 1960's in the Finger Lakes of N.Y..The colors look great on your shop wall Matt.
0:15 hey everybody 19:46 99% SURE 20:02 I’M A SNORT 38:42 😂😂😂😂 51:01 I’m not a moron! 56:08 rrrrrrrrrr 58:05 it might be your problem!
I grew up on the Farmall M's, complete with the tractor rodeo's when most all farm tractors were tricycle narrow fronts and could turn on a dime. 50's were the days. Great to hear the old familiar sound of the four and six bangers, but had a real soft spot for the two-cylinder John Deere as well. JD model G turning over ground pulling a 3 bottom (sometimes 4) was another beautiful sound for a 14 yr old boy. First Farmall was at age 11 '52, I hired out to a horse farmer who just bought a new Farmall H to replace his team of horses. I was the tractor driver pulling the oat binder, then the wagon pulling the loose hay loader, then on the rope pulling up hay into the barn. Those were the days, for sure. You did great work sorting out the needed fixes to get those two prizes up and running smooth.
My Gramps had two H's (similar to the M's in this video but smaller I think). One with a home made bucket, and one with a big belt-driven saw that he used to process wood for his furnace. I swear that man could make anything out of a pile of scrap. Hearing these farmalls come back to life brought back so many memories
Float wasn't clean enough. Clean with carb cleaner, then scotchbrite until it's very shiney. Use acid-core solder with flux, and it would have soldered easily. Solder doesn't work unless things are *super* clean. I soldered the float on one of my old Kohler gensets last summer. Worked a treat.
Exactly but even better to braze it have it
Awesome find Matt! Judging by the grille, your tractor is a 350 and not a 400. My grandfather had a 300. It was an excellent tractor! The _50 series tractors had power steering.👍
I believe the tractor is a 450, with the power steering and a newer style steering wheel. It is larger and has a deeper sound than a 300 or 350. The placement of the starter switch on the M is correct/original.
Great video, Matt. When I was a kid my uncle on the family farm went from horses to a Farmall Super A. I spent a few summers helping with the haying, driving that Super A all over. Good memories! Good luck with both tractors.
That yellow gunk is lead from evaporated old times fuel - not something to mess with. Talking about distributor caps - my experience in trying to cure missfires and flat spots is that while a spark can jump a good sized gap, it struggles to penetrate much junk.
Matt, don't let those cherry machines degrade anymore. If you can't put them under cover, pass them on to someone who will bring them back completely. You won't lose money for sure, and I don't think you are planning on farming, at least not in the near future.
Matt, I have never sat on a tractor in my life. I would not know how to get in the saddle. But I watch so many of your videos my wife is scared I will be filling up the yard with dingy diesels, tired tractors, and extinct excavators. I hope you are making good money off of your passions here. I have an inexplicable love for Farmalls now.
I used to love Tractors but for now I’m An Ex Tractor Fan Great video Matt All the best from England
If you don't need both I'd keep the one I wanted most. If you are going to park it in the woods with the lawn tractors, sell them both. Until you have some covered storage, collecting isn't the way to go.
Love the enjoyment you get out of starting these machines/tractors. Great to see them both operating.
Keep both. Love all your videos no matter what kind of equipment you are playing with. These add a simplicity to your collection and experiences.
My Dad had a H and a M ,The H was the first thing I learned to drive. That was 65 years ago. I have 7 John Deeres but I bought a H last year just for the enjoyment of hearing it run and drive around.
We still have my dads 1942 Farmall H in the family, my late brother fully restored her a number of years ago, looks better than the day it came out the factory.
Keep both. M for parades, the 400 for work. Growing up we had 2 Farmall 300s. One was converted into a 2 row Cotton picker for awhile and then back again. The other was used mainly for sowing wheat.
I grew up with both tractors and farmed with them. I overhauled the rear end of the 400. My first big mechanical job at about 19 years old in 1973.
* Gas squirting all over the place * Mat: Let's check for spark! My brain: * 40's music starts, Bert the turtle appears * "It's duck! And cover!.... Duck! And cover!"
This might sound silly, and maybe contrary to what would normally be done with equipment, but they're antiques. Just simple paint on anything red and polish and bam... value double. Treat em well. They're a peice of history.
Those carburetors were designed in the mid 1930s. Everyone involved in the design has long since passed away. But they sure did wonderful work.
Matt, that was ingenious!!! I love watching you fix these things with common sense!
This brought me back to my childhood,we had a “H” & “M” dad went thru some of the same issues you did but back in the late ‘60s n ‘70s, this video meant a lot to me 👍
Thanks for the great content. When I was helping on my grandfather farm we started out on the H then graduated to the 450 and that's my favorite one.
Great video. I grew up on a Montana cattle ranch, initially driving an H, a 300 and a 460. This video with the 450 and the M brought back many memories! Thanks.
always check the flow to the fuel bowl. Rust and gunk get in between the tank and the bowl...then you dont have enough fuel to run or accel. Especially if you tear down the carb. love the show...
Somewhere I got lost,watched you fitting the turbo that Area Diesel did a fantastic job on, then you had it stuck down by the creek, i’am not an old engineer,they are no alls,I just love watching you fix stuff. I was a Dental Prosthetist .ret Des
I grew up on a Farmall H which dad traded for a '49 M in 1956. In 1966 he traded the M for a very nice 450. Which one to keep: the M. It's a classic. Regarding the starter button, it belongs to an H and that is where it was positioned to hit with your palm. Thanks for the video.
These tractors came from our farm! And boy what a load of great memories! My grandpa loved these tractors and put a lot of work in with them! We had always called the brighter red one Emily lol. He was the one who repainted it and dad helped maintain it even after we retired it from bailing. I hope you can make some great memories with her just like we did!
Don't forget the bird poop. That will eat away the paint. Great tractors. The first one deserves a home as good as it runs
Looks like a nice pair of old IH Tractors. I liked the 400 and 450, the diesel especially, starts on gas, runs on Diesel. They made a MD Diesel as well, gas and diesel in one engine. Thanks for the videos, Matt.
You probably already fixed it but we have several of these old things and most of time its a blockage in the tank. Great video!! Thanks.
Matt, when you are trying to make the trackor run, looks like not getting furl, once you get it running a little even with ether, rev it, the put your hand over the carb input, force furl, and any air lock in the fuel system... Good luck, Sam
When them old formals are running right, you can put them in high gear and close the throttle and ride the brake and pull the rpm down till you can count the cylinders as they fire! Were good tractors!
Around 1972 my dad was looking at tractors. A used M was on the list along with Massey Ferguson. We ended up buying a new British Leyland 75hp. It was an odd duck (neg. ground, no glow plugs, etc.) but was a pretty good tractor & was half the price of a JD 4020. Keep the one you like! Great vids.
Such a great find. If you decide to keep just one the M is nice, but the way the 400 runs and idles is music to my ears. I'd say go with your gut. Thanks for teaching me your tricks. I'm rocking the DC hat daily and people ask me about it all the time. I decided to get a couple of shirts as well. Love the passion for old machines! 🚜
Outstanding!!! Two new hacks to put in my tool box. That vacuum and compressed air trick for the fuel tank. Then the paint can cap on the carburetor. Sheer genius. Thanks.
It's been said the best way to judge success is by its taste. And it taste sweet. I am always amazed by the sound of the old engines and their desire to live again. Thanks for keeping them alive.
I had 1949 Super M for several years it comes with Factory Power Steering… It was very strong Tractor one of the best! I added 3 point hitch before I sold it to some guy from St Louis area.
That cap with the holes in it was pretty damned ingenious! Won’t really work to well with load changes, but it’s still a cool idea.
Those Farmall M tractors were everywhere when I was a kid in the 50’s. I still remember the smell of those old machines. A combination of gasoline, oil and hay. They sat outdoors literally for decades and always ran. Hard to believe so many are still running over 70 years later. The M is probably the more valuable since they are so well known, but unless your heart is set on keeping it, I’d put a paint job on the M and sell it.
I have a soft spot for the 400. Ours had a "big bore kit".Like I said before 5 hrs then go get gas. That would plow that black iowa dirt in 3rd easily. Spent many an hour plowing & disking. Loved that old 400.😊
I grew up farming with an M and a 400. I loved the M and hated the 400. The 400 was powerful , but only had a 6 volt system (hard starting) and was very hard to steer compared to the M (ours didn’t have power steering). But I was only 9 or 10 when I drove it. I love your show.
Love the problem solving Matt. Good work. Your will it start videos are great, love watching them
Thanks 👍
Vacuuming volatile liquid into an electric motor = Potential Boom! looking forward to seeing that engine breakdown in the future.
it warmed my heart that you managed to save your 2 farmall and hear them purr congratulations btw I really like your videos even if I haven't been following you for long
Nice video...but (dare I say it) what pleased me even more was your Robert Heinlein quote, "If it's silly(or stupid) but it works, then it's not silly(or stupid)." It's a very, very sensible way of lookin' at the world, and especially machinery. And yep, a slow, steady idle is a sign of a engine with all of it's systems co-operating properly...
This was one of my favorite videos of yours! Your diagnosis was awesome
Matt, keep both. Reno both which should be easy to find buyers that see the value .. Another awesome video....Please give us tractor recovery/ purchase more often.
I love tractor stuff! I would probably keep the 400. I have a 48' Ford 8N that has been restored , and a Case 580 C backhoe that I was able to get for 4k. It is an extendahoe. I rebuilt all the cylinders as hydraulic fluid would just leak out of them all. A very handy unit!
I have a friend who is into locomotives. He belongs to a club, they get old locos renovate and restore to their former glory. They have bought a piece of cheap land and laid rail road track, most weekends busy polishing the brass. For the two tractors, get some young boys from high school and let them strip down and completely restore, new parts and paint job. All you need to do is supervise and feed them. The boys would have a great time working on old machinery.
I'm all in whenever I see a Farmall video..keep both of 'em.
I had a Farmall Cub do exactly the same thing. Had the carb acid dipped and rebuilt, new manifold still wouldn't run! So I sold it as it was either that or push it off a cliff!
This reminds me of the 1948 Farmall we had had that needed to be hand cranked to get it started. Loved that tractor when I was a kid.
Nice winter raid, and amazed me how tight turns this tractor can do! Thanks for yor work.👍
"I have an affinity for the old, derelict, doesn't run..." Indeed you do, Matt, and so does your audience otherwise we wouldn't be here watching your channel.
I just imagine Matt spraying ether in his armpits every morning when he wakes up. It's like coffee, but has more kick.
keep em both! you know whichever one you're using will quit in the middle of something. nice to have a backup. Plus, you can race them!
I learned to rake hay on a Oliver 60, pulling two side discharge rakes. She would roll 42 mph in road gear. Had long 6 cyl. Really brought back some memories. I learned how to small round bale on an Johnny popper. You had to stop when the arm dropped to wind on the sisle twine... Also remember how mad the bumble bees get hearing the pop pop pop pop pop....Love the content.
"In the meantime I guess I can just check for spark" - Hahahahahehehe The Farmall M is a beauty!
The first tractors I remember around our family farm were the JD 600, 620, & 630. The 600 didn’t run for the longest time until we finally got around to doing all the work it needed. The 620 worked for a bit then sat until after the 600 was fixed and the 630 always ran. The 600 and 620 were both narrow front ends and the 630 had a wide front end.
Keep the one that serves and services you best, for your needs on the property. Really enjoy the channel......