How to Tell if Your Timing Belt's Been Replaced
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How to Tell if Your Timing Belt's Been Replaced
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How to Tell if Your Timing Belt's Been Replaced
This is helpful! I'm doing my first timing belt change on a car with an unknown history for peace of mind. I thought the belt looked to be in great shape, but this showed me how an old belt can still look to be in good shape.
Brilliant topic Brian. These topics are gems in the motor service industry , especially for the home mechanics.
Brian, I just discovered your channel a week ago and man you are so smart and talented. I appreciate what you do, I have learned so much in just a couple of visits. Thank you and please keep doing this. I aspire to one day to do what you do.
Great job on this video! Short and to the point. You can actually string sentences together in a coherent fashion (rare nowadays). Even more rare, no screaming children or barely audible talk radio playing in the background. Bravo!
I usually wait until my pistons to smash my valve train....Works for me- TWICE!
Get a Toyota with a 1mz V6, if the belt breaks it's not a huge loss, and installing a new timing belt kit is all you need to do to get the engine up and running again. You still need a tow to your car to a mechanic, or home if you are DIYer.
@@davidperry4013 I’ve done mine in the parking lot right where it broke down😂 saved some bucks
Had it happen at 70mph 👍👍good experience. Now check the belt myself when buying a car lol
@@conorf8091 What do you look for when you check it? Kinda hard to tell the health of the belt just by looking at it
@@conorf8091 what happened? .. thats my worse fear
Thanks for the educational video. I know to change the timing belt near 100,000 miles, but I never knew how to check to see if it's still good. Good piece of information to have.
One thing that is nice occasionally the mechanic will mark the motor with a date and that it was replaced. I know any knucklehead can do that to mislead someone to... So what your showing is definitely a great way to get piece of mind and confirmation. "Trust but verify" like the great one said.
Thanks Brian! Always lots of helpful tips and common sense in your videos. Thanks for the tip about how long it normally takes the print to wear off.
Welcome Dustin!
I always feel " smater " after watching your videos Brian. LOL. You da man !
Thanks for this Brian. Just bought an 06 WRX and I am gonna check and make sure the belt was done on that.
As usual great video! Your the man. I buy lots of used cars and It's always a crap shoot whether or not to change the TB. This is a great way to have a better idea. Thanks!
I thought you looked familiar. I remember you from Pull apart Challenge. Great video, suitability entertaining and informative. Perfect.
that guess or assumption can be costly! the best thing is to learn to change it yourself in that way, you will have a peace of mind that the belt is good. remember its a rubber and it dies with time not only mileage. a car that is 10 years old but driven only 10,000 mile, will need that belt changing.
Nice-oscar Nice one man just got 10 years old van with very low MILLAGE thinking no need to worry about belt But u are right Thanks for tips
A good mechanic would place a sticker in the engine bay to denote a timing belt change and at what mileage. A sticker is the first thing to look for. We inherited a 2002 Sonata from my father in-law and had no idea about if or when the timing belt was ever replaced. I found a sticker in the engine bay that told me it had been replaced at 90,000 miles. It saved me from doing an unecessary replacement.
@Nick V: An even better mechanic would check the maintenance manual to see when the timing belt was last changed. No pfaffing around the engine bay with dirty hands....... If the mantenance manual hasn't been kept up to date or if its missing then turn your back on the car and walk away. Same if it looks like the maintenance manual has been tampered with.
Anybody can put a fake sticker in the engine bay with a mileage and fake belt serial number.
Anyone can put a sticker when selling a car saying its been changed
I dont keep a car long enough to ever worry about it. I switch cars every 3 months .
Nick V the trick a lot of people use when selling. Car around 90k is to just put a sticker on.
Thanks! Was just looking at my 01 Subaru that I just bought, and the back of the belt is glossy, so I figured it's original. Your video confirms that. 122K miles, so it is getting changed this coming week.
What does glossy mean
@@tientrinh943 shiny
Good stuff Brian, I always change them after I buy a car, although my last three have had chain drive.
This guy helped me alot. I bought a 2.0 litre turbo back in 2017 December and thee car was half of its retail price. I did get serviuce3 history but no mention of any timing belt change which is very important. Car had covered 81k miles so certainly needed a belt change. I checked the condition after id bought the car, removed the case and voila, brand new clear white markings. So this tells me the belt had indeed been changed around 70k miles. Belt was brand new almost. My car is Z20LET 200BHP and now covered 107k, belt is still good until 120-130k but obviously i will keep checking it for cracks etc. Timing belt and timing chains are very important people. chains do slip on worn pulleys on high mileage engines so be warned. chain might be good but teeth on pulley could be worn down. Same with belt, one slip and car wont start no matter what.
Glad it helped Andi!
Thanks for this one. I was going to let mine go. Don't know how many miles it has but... It's possibly got 120000 miles. Looks so good to me, like new except the back is shiny as you say, so... Thanks for this information you have probably saved my car.
Series DIY auto mechanic here... Great new trick of the trade for me, thanks Brain.
Not only do you do a great job of 'filming', it is always easy to understand every word you say. I appreciate every one of your vids. Did you take a course in speech and public speaking?
I agree, you know a good communication style is quite important for a successful youtuber. But still there are many people in this world and expectations differ a lot. What might be very sensible for someone else might be total garbage for me.
Hey Brian, just wanted to say thx for the videos (all of them). Your level of professionalism is amazing. I know you are a first responder, and as a small token of gratitude, I would like to send you a T-SHIRT from my Engine company (FDNY E6O L17 B14 IN THE SOUTH BRONX THE GREEN BERETS) . Just let me know what size and where to send it. Keep up the good work. Wilson
Brian: thanks for video. It's very well done and it is understandable and informative. My Forrester 02 has a sort of screw adjuster and has no cover. I know it was in a minor accident (hood, radiator, had to be replaced. Everything else works Ok though). Should I suspect there are missing covers, parts for the pulley and belts system? Thanks again.
Thanks for posting that 😀😀 I found it to be informative, direct and straight to the point (no yada yada yada) 👍👍👍👍👍
This is very interesting, informative. Preparing to purchase an older Honda CRV and the timing belt and water pump are my two main concerns. Naturally, the used car dealer tells me they checked and it's fine. But with 201,000 miles on the car, seems to me it'd time for a change.
Yea, they checked....that's a good one.Checked for change in the ashtray is all they check.
Considering most manufactures schedule a replacement before 90k miles, I'd say it's time for your third belt.
crv has a timing chain.
@@helivesonforever DOH!
thank you even a simple-minded man like myself could follow those simple directions thank you for keeping it simple bro
....simply put..in a simple way....as simple as can be ....
hey Brian quick question what brand of timing belt kit do you prefer when changing the timing belt?
Very informative. Personally I avoid timing belt engines due the uncertainty of breaking. Unfortunately my wife buys cars on other criteria and invariably they're belt engines. Fyi I paid for a timing belt and pulley renewal for one of her cars, from a main dealer. I suspect that the job was never done. I'm in the UK, I'm sure that the US have more stringent monitoring of bandit garages.
"I'm sure that the US have more stringent monitoring of bandit garages" You'll be surprised...
Hi Brian! What do you do when the crankshaft pulley won't turn to line the marks to TDC? It did turn with the old one, but not with the new one
Clear concise very useful information, thanks
Brian, thanks for letting us know. I hate timing belt maintenance due to expensive cost. I just wish that all vehicle has timing chain. I just did my timing belt for my 2008 Honda Pilot at 85k.
best timing belt clue test I've ever seen
Not really related to this vid, but have you ever done a B4 Servo? Need to change it on my '02 volvo s60 AND ITS A PAIN!!
Would you change only the timing belt or the whole kit including the water pump?
good instructional video, ..just got a 94 accord with 97k , if it is original timing belt, being 24 years old, I'm worried it could be cracked up, I'm just going to have to check it out, I like your patience while doing and recording a repair. do you have a video on rr for accord?, thanks
Thanks sir brian. Watching from the Philippines.
I inspected the timing belt on my 3000GT that I bought back in May. The Conitech lettering is still excellent reading condition, but I don’t know how old it is. Wish I could send you a picture.
Thks. Do you recommend changing timing belt by myself?
Great info...the "inch test". I'll use it for sure.
Thanks for this. One thing that would have been more helpful is to describe what to look for on the teeth. On the Subi, the cam gears have the guides on them, but others are open where you can see the gap between the teeth and the the cam. The other thing I look for is at the point where the root meets the side of the peak, are there signs of fraying threads? As to chains vs. belts, one advantage to the belt is that when done properly, all of the timing points are reset to factory specs. Additionally, since most water pumps are driven by the timing belt, you renew that as well as all other bearinged items. This renews all of those parts and as long as they are quality parts, the chance of them failing, is now almost nil.
Hola es igual para un Toyota
Hey Brian I am trying to install a new timing belt after putting in a new water pump, the belt is very tight and can't seem to fit it around the pully tensioner with the pin and all the idler one. How can I get more slack to fit it back on?!
Great way Brian, I wonder why I haven't thought of it.
Great video! I always wondered about that.
Surprised you didn't reference a timing belt/idler pulley video. Still a helpful trick.
Hi, when is the timming belt replacement service? 140.000km? Thank you.
Thank you. I needed that information. I have to check mine.
Welcome Charles!
Nice tip. Brian, dont remeber if you told that in your channel, or someone else's channel, that, to point a bad belt (the opposite) you need to use timing light and if you have a mark in the belt (something to take reference) this mark should have some some of jitter, that's moving a bit back and forth, intead of showing in a "steady" position. Is that Ok, or has no sense (or missunderstood that thing). Thanks for the vid, love the wall paper on the wall. Cheers.
i have a 2012 sonic, with 96k on it, i looked at the belt, it looks good to me, can still read everything on in, also all the motor mount bolts that have to be removed on my car to do the job have marks on them, like washers have socket marks and bolts have marks on edges.
Excellent information. Thanks
what do you think about the 2016 rav4
Looking at vw golf tdi.. can see on belt the complete Dayco name and other wording across complete width of belt... so I must be good ??????
Great video. Should the belt be changed due to age even if the mileage is small? I have a ten year old vehicle with thiryfive thousand miles.
I put an OEM belt on my Toyota, the print is faded and the belt is in decent condition. Its really hard to tell if the belt is old or due for replacement based upon cosmetic condition.
Drove an old mazda e2000 campervan to the middle of Australia .Alice Springs where the belt broke lol! It had done about 300,000 of course the old geezer i bought if of told me it had been done ! Anyway the mechanic said wreck it but on further inspection we replaced it and it was fine . Drove it back to perth w.a.
good information brian, thank you...
thanks Brain blessings good fellow!
Cool did that would work for a 2007 Lexus GX 470? I meant it is posible to see that ? Thanks
+briansmobile1, I'm guessing the car's immobilizer keeps the car from starting because the key isn't in the car? If so, that would make this tool perfect for compression tests, etc. when you don't want fuel dumping into the cylinders.
I got a golf mk4 where the timing belt was changed in 2018 but the car as only done about 4000 miles Vw state the belt needs to be done every 4 years or I think over 70 thousand miles the belt still looks kind of new and a original Vw belt and water pump was used in 2018 what’s your thoughts on this situation
So is this the same for an old VVT-I Toyota engine? A glossy belt is a bad indicator all round, or do you just look at the belt for bad teeth and edge tearing?
Old video.... Smarter me! Thanks for the info!
Regards, I just bought a Touareg which, if the belt breaks engine is toast. With 185,000 miles I was going to change the belt as a matter of course not taking any chances but just yesterday as I began to do so, I removed the belt covers (very easily done on these engines thankfully) to discover a very legible part number, model designation and manufacturer stamp (Dayco) and the teeth look great as well. The truck needs a new serpentine belt but it seems all is well with the timing belt based on your info it seems not much more than 20 or so thousand miles on this belt would you agree? What is throwing me is that the valve cover gaskets leak and my next step was to replace them and at the same time inspect the chain slides for the VVT and replace as necessary, however my thinking may be off (hopefully) but I feel like if they were changed previously then, at a similar high mileage, wouldn't they have changed the gaskets as well? Knowing they'd not be far behind? In fact as a desperation mechanic myself were I a professional mechanic for a living I'd not have wanted to reassemble without new ones pending a most certain leak on old ones.
Confucius say: why is the sky blue? why do the birds sing? It is what it is at the point in time you are at.
If you change it you’ll know it’s good for another 80k miles at least. If you leave it alone it could be fine for 80k miles or break in 8k. It’s up to you if you want peace of mind or too risk it. I change my cars timing belts/water pumps as soon as I buy and I always haggle the seller down and I usually buy cars without service history because they’re a lot cheaper without it and no warranty. I do all my own work and check the cars over well enough before negotiating a price so I come out on top once I’ve done any work needed/servicing and all belts. For me it’s worth doing the timing belt and water pump because the parts are so cheap and easy to fit, it just makes sense to me. I know it’s been done and the service is done so I know I’ve got 8k miles until the next service and about 80k until the next timing belt not that I keep the cars that long! Lol If I was you I’d just get the belts done and water pump then write down the date and mileage on the cover so you and the next owner has an idea when it was last changed!
@@Alexander_l322 Yeah so I did run it about another 25000 miles and was fine, just changed it here recently new water pump, VVT and slides, etc. it did have some slack and it was the right time to do it. I also do all of my own work, no fun on these beasties and especially considering how it can toast your engine not being done properly adds a new butt puckering dimension to it.
@@kw57rx8dr.9 it served you well for another 25k miles so that’s great news! Definitely caught it at the right time but if it had some slack then it probably wasn’t properly tensioned by whoever did it before, they don’t stretch and get slack they’ll just snap. Or the tensioner was starting to go which is like the belt snapping anyways lol. Yes it is a bit stressful doing the timing belt because if you do it wrong or mess up the timing then start the engine you’ll be in for a bad time, I turn the engine by hand first and check it can turn over at least 5 times and the marks line up again before I reassemble enough to start the engine, the first turn of the key is still stressing and full of anxiety but it always seems to work out just fine for me as long as I’ve triple checked everything.
@@Alexander_l322 Yes now that you mention it, I just remembered that I wanted to turn it over by hand first, Oooops! I did double check every mark on the cams, timing belt, with the camshaft alignment tool and TDC though first. That's like 5 or 6 check marks. one thing though that has never made sense to me and I can only surmise that maybe it applies to north american models or whatever is that every resource I checked said number 1 was front passengers side but I did the timing on 2 Tregs and both of them number one is front drivers side?
Hi, when is the timming belt replacement service in a Rover 75 V6 2.5? 140.000km? Thank you.
Hi Brian. Great video. Thank you for posting. I see you have a Subaru as your example, which is great that they have an easy access for the TB inspection. Unfortunately, in my case, I have a 2003 Toyota Sequoia 4.7 with 133K. TB inspection is not possible on this vehicle without dismantling a good portion of the front of the engine. So in performing the inspection process, one may just go ahead and complete the job. I would like to contact the previous owner just to say, "Hey was this procedure performed at the proper mileage interval", however drivers or previous are protected by a privacy act making it nearly impossible to make contact with a previous owner without breaking the law, or asking someone to break the law. I registered myself as the current owner on the Toyota website. I can see where the previous owner had all warrantee items performed, however they declined all the recommended services, one of which being the TB & water pump service. Now this could be something, or it could be nothing. The previous owner may have thought the dealer's servicing was too high, and sought a private mechanic's services, or they may have neglected the service and opted to trade in. The vehicle is in absolutely flawless condition. You couldn't tell it from new being 14 years old. I would assume that it was done from the condition, but we know what happens when we ASSUME, especially with timing belts. All of the above puts me in a pickle of wonder of whether I have a ticking bomb on my hands. I was considering drilling a 3/4" inspection hole at some area of the TB housing, and placing a rubber grommet when not in use to keep debris out. I don't want to detract from the value of the vehicle, but it would be nice if the Sequoia had an easily accessible view window for the TB. Do you think this is feasible, or are you aware of a way that I can determine if my TB has been changed on my vehicle without going through this procedure? Please advise if you have any ideas. I believe that I possess every tool known to man including a Whistler large screen probe tool. Again, please advise.
You have have a ticking bomb. I suggest you buy a complete kit from rockauto [dot] com *Timing Belt & Component Kit with waterpump* Rockauto lists the Toyota 4.7Liter V8 as an interference engine. On interference engines really bad things happen when the timing belt breaks. Non-interference engines just stop peacefully, no harm inside and no restart at all; the vehicle has to towed to do the repair work. What happens when the timing belt breaks on an interference engine? If the timing belt snaps, valves and the pistons run into each other, causing bent valves (most common), cylinder head or camshaft damage, and possibly piston and cylinder wall damage. While it is possible that no damage could occur from a snapped belt on an interference engine, such a case is unlikely. The US$162 AISIN kit includes the following components: AISIN Water Pump, Hydraulic Tensioner, Koyo Idler Bearing, Koyo Tensioner Bearing, Mitsuboshi Timing Belt, Water Pump Gaskets & O-Rings If you have the tools it will take at least four hours of your labor, garage mechanics usually use a 'flat rate' time for the hours to price the job, I don't know the flat-rate times for this project, it can be an amazingly high number. I've done these a few times, the time needed seems to depend more on the mood I'm in at the start of the project.
+Not Awake please see above
So the marks wear off on the gatorbacks and gates, how about the stock belt? Better quality perhaps?
When is best to change cam belt on Ford Mondeo diesel .after how many miles ?
Good Vid. I would like the manufactures to put date the belt was made on the. Will not tell much but could help a little. Would be no good to to date them when installed as who can trust many mechanics?
For those starters do you need the key in the ignition?
I did a timing belt for a friend today, in a Honda Accord with 204,000 km. There was not one witness mark anywhere, no marks on the belt or timing marks, no missing fasteners, and the Honda crank bolt was pristine. As far as I can tell, parts seem to be OEM. After I was done it looks very different, and specifically that crank bolt is now experienced, in a Jimmy Hendrix kind of way.
Hey bub i got a yr 2000 accord with 101,000 miles the timing belt was done in 2004 when it had 42,000 miles so now its 61,000 miles into it, should i roll the Dice and go another 20,000 miles.
@@matt7iron That's a good question. My instinct is to respect miles over age, but I have no idea whether that is right in really old vehicles. I would probably do it now. The ASIN belt kit I got at Rock Auto was excellent.
I did my hyundai Getz at about 60Thou Km when it was 6 year old, changed the water pump and tensioner bearings at the same time, some one else on youtube [and my local mechanic] said that a dealer mechanic would not have changed the bearings or water pump as time is money, its worth doing the pump as the job is the same teardown should the pump fail at some stage. The belt actually looked brand new, but it was still old.
I could see the subaru brand on my belt so I know that it was changed at its schedualed time. I can also see the alignment marks which also told me that the belt wasnt that old. Like you said,they get really shiney andvyou will no loner be able to read the manufactering lable or marks. I always use a paint pen and write on the timing belt inspection cover the date it was changed. People like buting my cars because I aways write dates of things I did right up front on the fran shroud. When I did antifeeze changes, headlight change,water pump replacement. Always do the battery date too,right on the battery cover.
Thanks for this info!
MY 19 year old Geo Prizm ( american version of a toyota corolla ) never had the timing belt changed. It had 85K on it when i got rid of it 6 months ago. Was still running fine.
OK so the tooth belt looks fine, but I've found the the pulley bearings can be almost shot even within service millage. Got a new car, change the kit if your gonna keep it!
That was awesome. Thanks sir!
great video man thank you I learn a lot
Thank you for this video, I checked my belt immediately and found the same fine lines as the belt in the video. But it's printed clearly. Are fine lines like the one in the 2:09 video normal? Is the belt in the video already used about 50,000 miles? Thanks
Is there a list of every car that has an easy inspection cover? Never seen that before. Nice video.
awesome vid thanks! just the info i was looking for
My 93 ranger had timing belt changed at 210 thousand miles. Still ran good 760 thousand miles
You awesome too dude! Thanks for the video.
great video. if I see the white Mark, like at two minutes and 32 seconds, and I can see some of the Kia print on the Belt would you say it's more like 40 to 50 thousand miles? Also doesn't matter that I start my car anywhere from four to eight times Thank you!
My old 93 accord went 210k on the factory belt, broke when we went to start it up in the morning. we were told it had been changed in 2008, but when my mechanic replaced the belt he said it was still the original belt in it....
+gunz-n-gadgets This is my concern as I prepare to buy a Honda CRV with 201,000 miles on it. I'm sure it needs changed even though the dealer says the on it is fine.
My 2006 accord has a timing chain. Never has to be changed.
No it doesn't. Yes it does.
John P Actually, he’s probably right. My 2007 4cyl Accord has a chain. The 6cyl have belts (for that generation).
Good job Brian!!!!!!! WOOO!!!
Thank you and great help..
Some good advice, fair call. However, having owned a few cars running belts, unless I have concrete evidence (sticker as supplied with new belts, or a receipt) of a reasonably recent belt change, for the sake of $40 or $50, and a couple of hours, I just change it anyway, and fit the sticker that comes with the new belt. Maybe not so practical with some more difficult to work on cars, but G16A Suzukis and 4G15 Mitsubishis are a piece of cake.
What in the hell???? Licensed mechanics here in Lincoln, NE want $1,000.00 to change the belt and water pump on my 1999 Nissan Frontier.
I have a 1999 Pathfinder and the timing belt was replaced 37K miles ago. But it was done 13 years ago. The owner's manual only states to replace it every 105K miles. Is the age an issue?
So how much longer will you wait before changing this one?
do you have an aftermarket brand that you like the most,
Gates
briansmobile1 Is the cost of the Gates vs OE that great of a difference?
UNITTA
cjones4512 Yes, for example for the Sti, the OEM is almost double ~$120 vs the Gates. I have OCD for OEM parts though.. Lol
Dan.vaku It's nice to meet a kindred soul. Ha! I got irritated when some small OEM parts for my Civic didn't show up in sealed Honda-labeled packages. ; ]
Pointless to do an inspection if your not sure if it was not done, unless you are Under change interval and just doing an Inspection as due diligence don't bet $5000 on condition of a rubber belt. Sorry, to be honest, recently did a timing belt on my Nissan pulsar, belt was done at 100,000 km, now has 190. Belt looked new. Factory Nissan belt. When they did belt I doubt they did the other components which can fail as well. Waterpump included. Tensioner was shot, and needed to be Done. Don't risk with this cheesy set up. If your not sure do everything tensioner, crank seal, idler and tensioner. Belt may look ok but not worth risking your investment over. Only way I would do an inspection and waste time is if it was halfway through its life cycle and wanted to take a look for your own peace of mind, if in doubt CHANGE it OUT!
You are very explanatory
What a great video. Thank you
Does a Factory Belt has this markings? I´ve bought a 98 Legacy and dont have any Service History about it. I see some White Paint on the Marks, but it seems like the Headgasket on the Driver´s Side has been done lately and they put them on to put the Engine in Time. It is a original Subaru Belt, but it could be done at a Subaru Dealer. Belt looks ok, No teeth missing or Gloss. Car has around 265000km (164000 Miles) on it. I Will change the Belt just like every Fluid on this Vehicle.
Hey that’s a great video love it thank you.
How do you check a timing belt on a 97 Camry 2.2 L
very well done. Thank you
This might be a pain, but when considering a vehicle purchase...consider a few things: 1) Timing belt vs timing chain. Chains last longer, and even better - dual roller chains are extremely durable. Yes, a timing chain kit is more costly, but the longevity is well worth it. 2) Interference vs non-interference engine. I built a 2002 Mazda Protege 5 with my niece for her specifically because its cheap, full of options, parts everywhere, and has a non-interference engine. If the timing chain/belt malfunctions on a non-interference engine...you do not have to worry about the pistons and valves smashing each other to bits. Stay gold.
Thank you, shopping for a car for my daughter and researching all of this because I know very little about cars
Had a Honda that I bought new. Changed the timing belt every 60K miles as preventative maintenance. Always used an OEM from the dealer.
Cheers really good vid. Thanks
very good video,very helpful,thanks
great video thanks