How To Pack A Suitcase With Marie Kondo | Apartment Therapy

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Marie Kondo is famous for Kon-Mari method and book, The Life Changing Art of Tidying Up-both of which promise to help you wrest control of the stuff in your home. But what about when you have to take that some of that stuff on the road?
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  • Why do you guys need to knock her methods down? I’m happy that so many of you guys have been kindly taught how to pack this way. I, and many others have not been so lucky. She is doing what all of you who are criticizing her for are not: educating people. That is powerful and beautiful. I am grateful there are videos on the internet teaching people how to make scrambled eggs. Sure, I learned that at a young age, but because I was taught. I’m not going to go to a scrambled eggs and say, “Well... that’s just how you make eggs.. duh? “ These kinds of videos are for those who, for whatever reason, have not been fortunate to learn these skills and should be treated with respect.

    @wendyberrios5957@wendyberrios59575 жыл бұрын
    • I second this. Kinda sad but yeah, some people learn basic stuff thanks to internet..

      @lilacKurage@lilacKurage5 жыл бұрын
    • i wish i could like this comment a thousand times

      @sayumichico1837@sayumichico18375 жыл бұрын
    • I agree wholeheartedly! People are terrified of change. This is a perfect illustration.

      @AllegedlyApril@AllegedlyApril5 жыл бұрын
    • If you grew up never traveling, never having to actually pack a suit case, never seeing anyone in your family do so, not even packing to sleep over at someone's place, you won't know how to do it or details most consider basic knowledge about packing like this. Similarly, regardless of expressing interest in cooking, you were never actually taught how to fry an egg, boil it or scramble it, and you end up needing Google and these kinds of videos.

      @AKeuzinha@AKeuzinha5 жыл бұрын
    • Yep, and we need to remember that parents don't teach their children these kinds of things anymore and people don't seek information from books much anymore so online is now the easiest way to learn things people once routinely learned by age 10 or so.

      @aggieaguilera4real@aggieaguilera4real5 жыл бұрын
  • Seeing Marie Kondo work her magic makes me feel relaxed. She looks so peaceful and happy. I learned something new today

    @lotzamra7872@lotzamra78725 жыл бұрын
    • Lot ZamRa I agree! So many negative comments but they don’t understand Marie’s methods. The point isn’t just to shove as much shit in the suitcase as you can possibly fit- any idiot can do that. Marie is showing us how to pack an efficient, organised suitcase with CARE. I love her new Netflix series as she seems like such a sweet and calm person.

      @JennyWas13@JennyWas135 жыл бұрын
    • It’s not magic. I pack this way all the time

      @eviem70@eviem705 жыл бұрын
    • @@eviem70 Well, it's too bad that she made a book out of it and you did not.

      @lotzamra7872@lotzamra78725 жыл бұрын
    • While I didn’t learn any new organizing techniques from Kondo, she did teach me to calm down, relax and find joy and satisfaction in such tasks. You never know what you might find and learn if you open your mind and listen.

      @WaywardPondering@WaywardPondering4 жыл бұрын
    • @@JennyWas13 ló

      @karlachazari6122@karlachazari61222 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you, Marie for showing the world that shoes NEED TO BE WRAPPED inside luggages and NOT to be randomly mixed with clean clothes!

    @loveleeluv7@loveleeluv74 жыл бұрын
  • i don't even have to pack a suitcase what am i doing here edit: hey guys guess who had to pack their suitcase a week or so ago

    @arin4812@arin48125 жыл бұрын
    • korekiyo official this made me laugh so hard 🤣

      @aisha-gq6cz@aisha-gq6cz5 жыл бұрын
    • Me too! Lol 🤣

      @bettinacaralde8640@bettinacaralde86405 жыл бұрын
    • Because Marie Kondo sparks joy in you. lol.

      @TheHaruharokuhana@TheHaruharokuhana5 жыл бұрын
    • Boring day.

      @campkira@campkira5 жыл бұрын
    • 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

      @jf6591@jf65915 жыл бұрын
  • I think the comments need to realise that Marie isn’t just about being efficient it’s being organised. Sure, I fit more stuff in my suitcase by rolling it and squeezing it and shoving everything into every crack and crevice that I can- I’d never pack like Marie because I’m always trying to shove in as much as I can. But when I arrive at my destination, it’s a pain in the ass to find everything I need quickly. People are saying that this simply looks better, but that’s kind of the point...

    @JennyWas13@JennyWas135 жыл бұрын
    • JennyWas13 It takes getting used to. First time around I folded my clothes for my closet/wardrobe I felt like was going to forget what things were. That I wouldn’t remember if it was a top or a dress, the length etc. But now I know my clothes Well so I can tell exactly what everything are even when ”rolled up”. So if you can tell at a glance then this is wonderful as it is not just ”Rolling” but folding in a way it Will stand on its own so that if you pull something out the rest will remain exactly as they were. Kondo isnt just organising it is kinda a change in lifestyle. A complete make-over your home that forced a make-over of you too as you understand yourself and your actions better.

      @MissVasques@MissVasques5 жыл бұрын
    • I never roll my clothes for traveling. I consider that and extra job. And the wrinkles become worse. I just fold it and arrange it. Works fine for me. No need to roll anything.

      @clip012@clip0125 жыл бұрын
    • @@clip012totally.

      @csillap.9482@csillap.94825 жыл бұрын
    • If everything gets its own pouch, where's the laundry bag? Or do you nearly fold up your smelly clothes?

      @lenawagenfuehr53@lenawagenfuehr534 жыл бұрын
    • I fold my laundry and put it in a regular bag at the bottom of the suitcase.

      @alicegabriela2198@alicegabriela21984 жыл бұрын
  • I absolutely adore this woman and for those who have Netflix she has a series on there! :)

    @rachelkillian4305@rachelkillian43055 жыл бұрын
    • I love her as well . I became almost minimalist because of her way to organize and it feels so good.. When I open my drawer or closet I FEEL ABUNDANCE WITH FEW ITEMS BECAUSE ITS VISIBLE AND ACCESSIBLE.. I SAVE SO MUCH $$ FOR CLOTH AND I BUY TICKET TRAVEL INSTEAD🌻🌺🎉🎈🌺🌻🎉🎈🌺. Thanls MARIE KONDO👍👍👍👍👍

      @amelsabri469@amelsabri4695 жыл бұрын
    • @@amelsabri469 4 years later, have you been enjoying the life style?

      @thesweetestbear@thesweetestbear Жыл бұрын
  • Now only if she could organise my life

    @ashrmks@ashrmks5 жыл бұрын
    • unfortunately that's something we must do alone.

      @lalalae_@lalalae_5 жыл бұрын
    • Well you will need a force Maries to do that, even then it will ruined the day they finish it

      @simpleman8556@simpleman85565 жыл бұрын
    • Read her book.

      @KRGE41.3@KRGE41.35 жыл бұрын
    • Now if only she would see a therapist about her OCD...

      @lenawagenfuehr53@lenawagenfuehr534 жыл бұрын
  • Another tip for people who buy a lot during vacation: you can put your suitcase inside a larger empty suitcase. When you need more space for the things you buy, you can separate the suitcases.

    @audreywong7494@audreywong74945 жыл бұрын
  • The only thing i want to learn from her is her patience

    @annaveroniquelee9458@annaveroniquelee94585 жыл бұрын
  • Marie is basically Isabelle from Animal Crossing.

    @Ran-nii@Ran-nii5 жыл бұрын
    • Fun fact Isabelle in the french version of the game is called Marie !

      @laurenecladt5223@laurenecladt52235 жыл бұрын
    • Omg....finally my feelings made into words😱😱😱😱

      @wiwa3254@wiwa32545 жыл бұрын
  • I think it’s a great way of packing! I lead student tours in Europe and I insist that my travelers only bring a carry-on bag because not all hotels have elevators and a lot of the time the rooms are tiny. Bringing a big suitcase just isn’t practical. I had been having the kids roll their clothes but since I learned Marie’s method of folding, I will teach them how to pack like this! Merci beaucoup Ms. Kondo!

    @MaryStiles0120@MaryStiles01205 жыл бұрын
  • Marie Kondo is the soul I would love to have around my house- and in my life. She is so peaceful 😭😭💜💜

    @yeasminzarina4643@yeasminzarina46435 жыл бұрын
  • her folding methods and decluttering has helped me to halve my entire wardrobe and shoe collection in a slow process of two years and help me to realise ' to use / buy what i only need ' . Same idea here when you need to pack a suitcase and having a cabin size will limit you to not over packing .

    @rachaeljones5767@rachaeljones57674 жыл бұрын
    • keep what sparks joy

      @pomodoro144@pomodoro144 Жыл бұрын
  • For myself--an elderly female who enjoys sampling different ways to organize--I like to browse through many videos and systems. Usually a few ideas will appeal; some flatly DO NOT. In the end I get concepts which I adapt to my own preferences. This is also true in other aspects of life like cooking, wardrobe selections, etc. I have never found ONE COMPLETE SYSTEM for my needs. Thank you authors and videographers for providing ideas which I can work with but do not replace my own ingenuity!

    @susanjoycesabo8450@susanjoycesabo84504 жыл бұрын
  • I tend to roll instead of file fold because I'm plus sized and my clothes are bulky but I used a lot of her techniques and was able to fit an entire week long trip into my small carry on and my backpack, even left some space for some souvenirs. I think all that I would do differently or add would be role hosiery (tights, stockings, socks) and shove them in your shoes to save even more space

    @BeeCreates929@BeeCreates9294 жыл бұрын
  • Marie Kondo has helped me so much and she has helped me again!

    @froggychair2959@froggychair29595 жыл бұрын
  • She looks so happy and cheerful and here I am at 11:30pm the night before I leave staring sullenly at my suitcase with a glass of wine

    @SusanMT@SusanMT3 жыл бұрын
    • Hey, your version of packing is much cooler

      @DiamondsRexpensive@DiamondsRexpensive2 жыл бұрын
  • She's like the mom I've always wanted :') ♡

    @youzhenzhang8415@youzhenzhang84154 жыл бұрын
  • Im inspired by miss marie kondo. I watch here tidying up in netflix and it really helps me to organize things. Im all around nanny . Thanks to miss marie kondo Because of her i got a praise from my employer as a nanny being praise is an honor. I love her attitude towards things she gave respect even to a house. You really inspired me. Keep it up. 💐

    @gerrylyn4817@gerrylyn48175 жыл бұрын
  • I love the tip about putting underwear in bra cups!

    @fitnessasphilanthropy515@fitnessasphilanthropy5155 жыл бұрын
    • Me too! It’s brilliant. I have never thought about doing that, but it’s something I’ll try.

      @sabrina.natalie@sabrina.natalie5 жыл бұрын
    • On holidays I take only soft bra without stiff cups , what am I to do !!! Where should I put my underwear , help! Help! :). Just joking , nice tip , but the best tip is just to take less. People are obsessed with stuff, and they want to carry it all with them all the time. Less stuff less problems.

      @helenab9973@helenab99735 жыл бұрын
    • "Fitness as Philanthropy" What about a person who uses a sports bra or binders?

      @obscurelyvague@obscurelyvague4 жыл бұрын
    • Everybody does this surely? best way stop the bras getting out of shape.

      @alexandrabuchanan968@alexandrabuchanan9682 жыл бұрын
  • I'd like to see a suitcase packed with winter clothes. Big and bulky items are hard to pack efficiently

    @RC-goddess@RC-goddess4 жыл бұрын
    • One coat and a pair if boots is going to fit in one suitcase😂😂😂

      @xhoana31@xhoana31 Жыл бұрын
  • Packing cubes! I freaking love them, don’t know how I lived before that. But this looks so visibly pleasing.

    @yourHEROineETA@yourHEROineETA5 жыл бұрын
  • she really enjoy this and this make me happy

    @infiniteunconditionallove1620@infiniteunconditionallove16204 жыл бұрын
  • I like packing like this. It makes everything easy to find at a glance. My drawers always get messed up when I dig through the piles of shirt looking for one. This way I can see everything at once. But to each their own.

    @rebeccaelliott4261@rebeccaelliott42615 жыл бұрын
    • "Rebecca Elliott" yes

      @obscurelyvague@obscurelyvague4 жыл бұрын
  • Finally. A video that showed all my tricks. Thank you for taking the time to make the video. These tricks are really helpful. I learned them from a magazine years ago. No idea which one it was. But it really helps.

    @mydirtylittlehands4389@mydirtylittlehands43893 ай бұрын
  • Her voice soothes my soul 💆🏻‍♀️

    @taylorwaterman7840@taylorwaterman78404 жыл бұрын
  • Cutest human being alive. I’ve watched the whole series. I truly can’t see her face enough. 🥰

    @allwittyknitty@allwittyknitty5 жыл бұрын
  • I use her folding method with packing cubes-travel game changer!

    @joeyd2063@joeyd20635 жыл бұрын
  • Tried this. Worked like magic!

    @gaurimbanerji8076@gaurimbanerji80765 жыл бұрын
  • I always pack like that but why watching her pack stuffs is so relaxing

    @lianak3530@lianak35305 жыл бұрын
  • I think her methods are really good. I’ve just bought her book and what she says makes perfect sense. And she seems a very joyful and positive girl.

    @borleyboo5613@borleyboo56135 жыл бұрын
  • Precioso como ordena Mary Kondo. Admirable 👏🏻❤

    @BackstreetIsmylife@BackstreetIsmylife5 жыл бұрын
  • Marie is awesome, no matter what she is teaching! 🙂

    @EvieVermont@EvieVermont Жыл бұрын
  • Watching this is somehow so satisfying and makes me happy 😂

    @MariyamHarris@MariyamHarris5 жыл бұрын
  • Her videos make me feel so relax

    @jf6591@jf65915 жыл бұрын
    • us too!

      @apartmenttherapy@apartmenttherapy5 жыл бұрын
  • Packing always makes me feel like playing Tetris.

    @fardelstream@fardelstream5 жыл бұрын
  • Watching that made me smile!!! I need to go on holiday straight away, just so I can pack a case!!! 😉

    @TheSiobhan12@TheSiobhan125 жыл бұрын
    • Sounds like a good excuse to us!!

      @apartmenttherapy@apartmenttherapy5 жыл бұрын
  • wow. that suitcase sparks joy. i like it..

    @allisterdaniel@allisterdaniel5 жыл бұрын
  • I 💙KonMari! She is wonderful! So happy and willing to be helpful. I've learned a lot from her. And now I'm off to tackle laundry mountain

    @cyndifalk@cyndifalk Жыл бұрын
  • I needed to see this as l sit on a suitcase to get it closed. Thanks 😊

    @nappylala@nappylala5 жыл бұрын
  • What a genius businesswoman. The fact that she can turn this extremely basic common sense into something “revolutionary” is amazing.

    @maximilian6829@maximilian68294 жыл бұрын
    • yeah strong independent boss woman

      @lets_wrapitup@lets_wrapitup2 жыл бұрын
  • if possible, wear the bulky outfits and bigger stuff on the flight, it saves space in your suitcase.

    @AlexBsSecret@AlexBsSecret5 жыл бұрын
  • Absolutely love her!

    @starmaddy@starmaddy5 жыл бұрын
  • Love this! I never would have thought of this and now I can see all my clothes right from my suitcase! Thank you!

    @0987undecided@0987undecided5 жыл бұрын
    • Ya that is the point, you can see all your clothes.

      @asmazara7214@asmazara72145 жыл бұрын
  • I like the map on the inside of the suitcase. Pretty cool 😀

    @lillysmith8091@lillysmith80914 жыл бұрын
  • Why did this make me so happy?

    @rochalleracine@rochalleracine5 жыл бұрын
  • Thnx soooo much for this awesome idea

    @shafiyanousheen3126@shafiyanousheen31262 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you Marie Knondo for this video thanks to you my suitcase has never been more meter and has more space

    @jazziejshook1774@jazziejshook17743 жыл бұрын
  • ¡Apenas te veo por acá por primera vez, Marie Kondo! Adoro tus 📚. Y estoy empezando a practicar tu método. Además te veo por NETFLIX. Abrazo desde Bogotá ☕️.

    @beatrizamaliasanchezluque685@beatrizamaliasanchezluque6855 жыл бұрын
  • She is a master of organizing!

    @karensimplyadventurous7305@karensimplyadventurous73055 жыл бұрын
    • Or she has OCD...

      @lenawagenfuehr53@lenawagenfuehr534 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you this was great!!!!!

    @serenitywaterz5385@serenitywaterz5385 Жыл бұрын
  • Beautiful vídeo!!!

    @jujubajtn@jujubajtn5 жыл бұрын
  • I packed my boyfriend’s suitcase like this, and he was skeptical at first, but loved that he could see everything when he opened his suitcase and he didn’t have to dig

    @Twylinaelizabeth@Twylinaelizabeth3 жыл бұрын
  • YES! That will work !!!

    @sallyfrench8627@sallyfrench86272 жыл бұрын
  • Hello everyone 👋😊😊 and blessed be y'all honest and neat.

    @salometipsandtricks2786@salometipsandtricks27864 жыл бұрын
  • I swear she’s a wizard

    @natlikesthings@natlikesthings5 жыл бұрын
    • We agree!

      @apartmenttherapy@apartmenttherapy5 жыл бұрын
  • thanks! you got some good tips!!

    @tarasmith8979@tarasmith89794 жыл бұрын
  • Love the show

    @britneymonarque88@britneymonarque884 жыл бұрын
  • Saving so much space. I always used to do the rolling method which takes maybe less time. But folding probably is better wrinkle wise.

    @azadehnikou9890@azadehnikou98905 жыл бұрын
    • "Azadeh Nikou" there is always one thing or other. I think that to save space in a suitcase or backpack or whatever, it is best to bring what you need. Items such as cosmetics are a luxury and it has always surprised me how women try so hard to being cosmetics along. I spent some time in the military and I saw some female soldiers pack things like different kinds of shampoo, conditioners, hair curlers, cosmetic kits with nail polish, skin creams, compacts, and blow dryers (and back then they were larger ) etc etc. Oddly they were willing to carry their heavy duffel bags filled with these things besides clothes such as dresses and high heel shoes. I have on occasion come across women who claim that they never used cosmetics in their lives. I think that dresses are even useless to bring for travel. They are meant to wear if you are not moving and/or if you don't need to carry things or if you don't need to run quickly to catch an airplane or walk around in hot weather sightseeing or in the sun etc. Of course it could always depend. Maybe if you are a model who has to bring dresses to be photographed in.. but the most practical clothes to bring are those meant for active wear, such as hiking pants or khakis, safari or trekking shirts. Maybe someone ought to make a video showing how much lighter a person can pack leaving out cosmetics and unnecessary fancy clothes.

      @obscurelyvague@obscurelyvague4 жыл бұрын
  • I need to pack a suitcase soon but I think I stick with rolling most of my stuff and my travelcubes for organizing as I need to pack stuff for cold and warm days. If I needed only summer clothes and only stay in one hotel I might use this method.

    @dudie5403@dudie54035 жыл бұрын
  • I tried it today, it is actually very efficient, i cld even count my items in the bag without flipping anything bec everything is visible... it does save a lot of hassle...

    @lcard9516@lcard95165 жыл бұрын
  • Decluttering is practice of getting rid of overthinking of thoughts , products , relationship and etc..gratitude to space And things

    @sureshbabu6970@sureshbabu6970 Жыл бұрын
  • Very good video, thank you

    @deeparker6539@deeparker65395 жыл бұрын
  • Love it!

    @hankagerretsen9827@hankagerretsen98275 жыл бұрын
  • Brilliant

    @geraldinekew8315@geraldinekew83152 жыл бұрын
  • There was totally room for that dress. Take it, Marie! Taaaaaake it!

    @tikitribe5715@tikitribe57154 жыл бұрын
  • Packing cubes - best thing ever.

    @PebbleBeachLife@PebbleBeachLife4 жыл бұрын
  • I love her!

    @evelynalegre1036@evelynalegre10365 жыл бұрын
  • Professional ORGANIZER!!!

    @ETPCYT@ETPCYT4 жыл бұрын
  • Love it!👍🏽👍🏽😊

    @joyandpeace6885@joyandpeace68854 жыл бұрын
  • That's amazing

    @melanie-vg8vm@melanie-vg8vm5 жыл бұрын
  • I love this women my draws look so tidy now xx

    @daniellaosborne7694@daniellaosborne76944 жыл бұрын
  • Can't believe I've been doing this exactly instinctively

    @KarAashika@KarAashika4 жыл бұрын
  • Gr8 tips 👌

    @FeelGoodWithin@FeelGoodWithin5 жыл бұрын
  • I always flip my hats upside down and put clothing inside. Also keeps the hats shape especially when you can put a lot of smaller items inside.

    @adrianne1460@adrianne14602 жыл бұрын
  • Só cute. Congratulations

    @AicianneVerando@AicianneVerando5 жыл бұрын
  • Nice tips .

    @cathlainetea@cathlainetea5 жыл бұрын
  • I'd like a sweatshirt and pull version, I particularly travel in winter and it so difficult to me to organize my suitcase

    @denisemontanari4772@denisemontanari47725 жыл бұрын
  • Whoawww love it

    @pamelafelita4086@pamelafelita4086 Жыл бұрын
  • Great. Bravo.

    @litsamacri756@litsamacri7564 жыл бұрын
  • Excelent 👏👏

    @jacquelinecossio7037@jacquelinecossio70374 жыл бұрын
  • Yes Indeed!

    @marywarren5996@marywarren59963 жыл бұрын
  • I would like her to show how to pack like this for long trips. I’m going on a mission trip for 11 days to Europe and I’m generally a heavy packer so I’d like to see a video for that (Let me know though if she already has one up about it.)

    @madelinclaireg4446@madelinclaireg44465 жыл бұрын
  • Heck YES

    @laurakramer4888@laurakramer48885 жыл бұрын
  • I need to pack a suitcase for my trip and I am watching this 😆

    @canyouspeakmoreslush610@canyouspeakmoreslush6105 жыл бұрын
  • Marie is so sweet 😀

    @lillysmith8091@lillysmith80914 жыл бұрын
  • God bless you 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖

    @marrysaleem680@marrysaleem6802 жыл бұрын
  • She's amazing.. Arigato

    @rajmanidhardubey8088@rajmanidhardubey80882 жыл бұрын
  • I’ve been rolling up my clothes for years now. It really does work.

    @angieg4127@angieg41275 жыл бұрын
  • Es admirable

    @liaperez253@liaperez2535 жыл бұрын
  • Nice

    @blackbloodcell5147@blackbloodcell5147 Жыл бұрын
  • I enjoyed your video with the exception of only music and just activity,Hearing a live voice with the demonstration would have been nice.

    @robietuck6404@robietuck64047 ай бұрын
  • I also been rolling my clothes for years and years not only space but can clearly see every thing on top no need to dig out 😁😁😁👏🇬🇧

    @007lovediamonds6@007lovediamonds64 жыл бұрын
  • Someone just mentioned you today and then you came up on my feed! It must be a sign! Loved the video! Also on another vote would love to know if anyone knows how to speed up a video - I’m new and would love any tips. Thank you x

    @ZDLifestyle@ZDLifestyle5 жыл бұрын
    • You can skip ahead/go back in 10 second increments by pressing the directional arrows on your keyboard (left arrow for back, right arrow for ahead). There's also another way but I cannot recall. Just do an online search. This is also presuming you're viewing on a laptop or device with a keyboard. If you're viewing on a mobile device, simply tap the screen while video is playing. I hope that's what you meant 😬 Enjoy the KonMari endeavors. My daughter, mother of four young children including a 2-month old, has been doing this method and loves it and now I am also. My knickers drawer has never looked so damn good!

      @AllegedlyApril@AllegedlyApril5 жыл бұрын
  • Огромное спасибо!

    @user-hg5kg6lz7l@user-hg5kg6lz7l4 жыл бұрын
  • People -you need to GROW UP !People pack stuff in different ways -pick the one that works for you and do it that way. If people want to pack stuff the way that she does then do it.

    @cynthiathomas5443@cynthiathomas54435 жыл бұрын
    • Cynthia Thomas This times a million!!!!

      @wendyberrios5957@wendyberrios59575 жыл бұрын
    • What happened to the shoes? And where is the bag for laundry - are you supposed to neatly fold your smelly clothes or just thank them for their service and purge them?

      @lenawagenfuehr53@lenawagenfuehr534 жыл бұрын
    • @@lenawagenfuehr53 😆

      @armenianchik@armenianchik3 жыл бұрын
  • She's so beautiful 😍

    @emobunny7515@emobunny75155 жыл бұрын
  • Genial

    @isabelvaladez7950@isabelvaladez79504 жыл бұрын
  • Madre mía, los años q llevo haciendo asi la maleta. Si lo llego a saber me hago los tutoriales

    @nievescorral4326@nievescorral43265 жыл бұрын
  • O indicarme dónde puedo encontrar el tutorial. Gracias.

    @rosamariamuro9563@rosamariamuro95635 жыл бұрын
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