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Hello yuta
I certainly have the worst Japanese, but I'm also the most jōzu
日本語上手ですね！
I find it funny how jōzu became the traditional Japanese way of telling a foreigner their Japanese sucks
I agree.
i love how he wasn't happy with just this comment so he literally made a whole video out of it lmfao
@@HardcoreMasterBaiter isn't jōzu means good?
I think, with Dogen, he intentionally speaks more carefully/articulately so it's easier understood by people learning Japanese, which are his primary audience.
Yeah for sure
He says he talks like this in english also tho
Yeah, at least Yuta speaks fluent english unlike John Daub, he's been living in Japan for 25 years and he still speaks Japanese like a typical foreigner. Is John Daub that lazy?
@@gofer3836 I wouldn't call it laziness. I think that's a distinction between people who want to perfect their Japanese skills so as to sound native, and those who just want to get their ideas across without caring if they sound native or not. Both of these stances being perfectly valid in my books
@@user-jl2xw7qf2y Not laziness? He consistently (if not intentionally) mispronounces his wife's name, Kanae. Instead, he says, Kanai. He refuse to stretch the "e" sound. Also, the town called Ueno, instead he say it, Weino. Multiple people corrected him but he refused. But then, he criticizes other people pronunciation. After 25 years, he still not get it? Now,........ you tell me that's NOT a laziness.
Dogen's comedy simultaneously only works when delivered in Japanese, but also often requires presentation in English for the full effect even when not directly about being someone who speaks Japanese as a second language like a lot of it is, specifically because of how much of his comedy is targeted at English speakers learning Japanese. One of his best videos is "Japanese In 10 Years", and it wouldn't work in any other language, because the joke is predicated on the way he's actually using the language itself. Hell, in this video, he uses a clip of Dogen subtitled "Yes, another addition to my slave army", but the *joke* is that what he actually said was "Yosh, getto da ze!", the catchphrase the main character of Pokemon says when he captures another Pokemon (to add to his slave army). The joke doesn't work without both the Japanese and English elements. Same with "Dante's Inferno" ("Pachinko-ten") and "Chocolate, if you please" ("atatatata tatata ta zuukyn", the refrain of Gimme Chocolate by Baby Metal).
"Yes, another addition to my slave army" This reminds me of an official Pokémon translation that mixed up the two main meanings of 元気 ("energetic" and "healthy").
That's what I like about Dogen. I sometimes use my desire to understand his comedy videos better as encouragement whenever I'm struggling.
dougen is the peak of comedy, some amounts of knowledge of both english and japanese is required to understand the comedy.
@@inendlesspain4724 theres even a word for energetic anime girl genki
Joey's exposure is not only through his mother, but also his Japanese relatives and several accumulated months of work-stays in Japan even before finally moving there for his channel. At age 16 he also passed the JLPT N1 level. He does know Keigo perfectly, so if he's not applying it in certain interviews it seems more like a semi-conscious choice (to keep the 'cool persona' up or if the setting is more layed back I guess). Also for Dogen and Matt, it's two completely different kind of videos you compared. Matt's video is one based on freely speeking while to bring a point across, while Dogen's is a scripted video in which he deliberately speaks overly articulated and slow for his audience (Japanese learners) and comedic effect. You'd have to find a video where he speaks naturally to another Japanese person to really make a judgement on his Japanese.
If anyone knows who joey is it's his fans..and I'm one of em
Joey seems like he knows a lot about the language because of his upringing, but you can tell he prefers to be casual about it.
The way I see Joey's attitude. He knows proper manners and the heirarchy and the proper language to be respectful. But he has western attitudes towards that where your boss or your senpai are worthless ideas. You respect the people you want to respect. The people that earned that respect. Not the people that simply existed longer than you. Honestly I hold the same attitude. I intend to learn japanese but won't really conform that strongly to the idea of someone being higher or lower than me. I think its dumb and Joey comes off as the kind of person that practices that attitude. But can pretend to give a shit if it means avoiding unneeeded hassle.
@@ceresbane "You respect the people you want to respect." I don't respect everyone, I only respect who I respect.
he prefers to rap about
@@ceresbane LOL you misunderstood polite language, you think being polite is to see some people up or down of you... it's not really that, it's more like distancing them from you, in my case I am used, since in Spanish we also have polite language, at least is still used in Mexico, we pretty much use it with our elders, bosses and strangers, it's not really a big deal, I find hilarious how people is too insecure to believe keigo is a big deal to the point get legit anger to it. the fun thing about keigo it's in some situations is insulting to use it.
@@PEDROGARCIA-qj3gr no i understand that. even english has polite manners of speaking. Especially in regards to referring to knights, lords, ladies (dumb titles like lady dowager countess of assland), mayors (right royal and honourable major of the city of london) and royalty (depending on your own status and occassional, your highness, royal highness, your majesty, my queen, and you can actually use these incorrectly at any given time) and the clergy. But also just switching form and word choices due to formality. At its face its just dumb. My only real exception to this being you EARNING titles of significant achievement. Like phd, esquire, VC, etc. But even so I wouldn't be reverently formal with such people, I would merely be respectful. Formal speech just comes off as overly brown nosey to me. When I want to communicate with people I want it to be made abundantly clear I want no barriers at play in the exchange. I want a free exchange of words and transparencies.
The part you were talking about Joey having no accent, I had to chuckle a bit when I remembered that Japanese people thought that you Yuta-san were a foreigner trying to speak Japanese in a previous video...
Which one?
@@BakaBaka8146 That video is called: "Can Japanese Spot Foreigners' Japanese by Listening? (Osaka)" also read the hilarious comments under the video's.
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He said that? Every human who speaks has an accent.
thats prolly cuz of bilingualness you mix accent especially in a metropolitan accent, like south jakartan is typical of indonesian, midwest american is the usual representation while some relic of british accent that land on mideast US still exist sparingly, either search for accent polyglot dialect or sample text slander memes for resources. besides formal resources
I'll give Dougen the prize solely because he focuses on humor. It takes quite a lot of ability and linguistic knowledge to pull off humor in a foreign language.
Three of them inspire Japanese language learners a lot for sure and actually we Japanese get lots of inspiration from them too! I’ll make more efforts to be able to speak native-like English 😆💓
すごい
Not for John Daub, he's been living in Japan for 25 years and he still speaks Japanese like a typical foreigner. Is John Daub that lazy? He can't even say his wife's name correctly.
You're pretty close already, so good job! As Yuta says, foreign language learners sometimes have a better grasp of a language than native speakers, and I can tell you from experience that even you write better than many native English speakers I know. :D Keep up the good work!
@@gofer3836 lmao
Wow, if you've learned English. You sound native to me! Amazing!
I used to really respect and look up to Matt, he was the sole reason I was able to find out about AJATT, Stephen Krashen, etc. I'd love to be proven wrong but the marketing of Project Uproot has all the hallmark signs of being a complete and utter scam (telling you there's problem, not explaining his solution, creating false scarcity, time pressure, huge asking price, etc). To top it all off, he's deleting any comments on his videos expressing any concern about it, confirming either that it is in fact a scam or, that he has an incredibly fragile ego. It's really disappointing to say the least
as much as I like Matt, I kinda have to agree. Although I do think it's because of the latter(fragile ego), cuz u know how defensive he can get sometimes haha
Yeah it's screaming scam alert the way it was shown
I have a feeling matt paid him to make this. The timing is very suspicious with him trying to scam his 700$ course at this same time.
I love Matt but kinda have to agree on that one too. I subscribed to his newsletter some time ago and the amount of mails related to the project was a little, well, excessive. It doesn't necessarily have to be a scam but it seems a little off. I wouldn't have expected this type of marketing from him tbh.
I agree that the promotion videos he made with Ken Cannon for Project Uproot are over the top and use a lot of sketchy language in the style of late night infomercials. But the actual price for the course, which I think is $500, is much less than I was expecting. $500 for an intensive two month course of the nature he describes is actually not unreasonable IMO (assuming he and Ken actually deliver on what they promise and also really honor their money-back guarantee). I personally have no desire to do it but for someone that wants their hand held throughout the process it might be a decent option.
Cant deny the fact that Dogen sounds coolest
He sound like anime characters, he speak slow and clear so its easy to follow.
Dogen is my go to source whenever I need motivation. I'm currently studying japanese as my third language, and whenever I watch one of his videos, I just get this desire to understand the jokes, instantly making me motivated again. I love this guy
As weird as it may sound, Dogen has been a huge influence on me. Any time I'm struggling I use the fact that I just want to understand his comedy as encouragement.
Can we take a moment to appreciate, how good yuta looks in that pink shirt.
I really love how unexpectedly into anime yuta is lmao I love the subtle monogatari reference at 4:30 as well
It's not the first time he makes a reference to Hanekawa's catchphrase, but it's always fun when he does it.
Yeah
Oooo would love to see a part 2!...D_D
Your Japanese is great too 😃 👍
Yeah, were he actually puts a little effort and finds some extended free speaking and gives an honest opinion! Not this sham of a video that coincides with project Uproot (kusa)... Anyways, I like your channel!
One thing to take into account about matt and dogen is the difference between their scripted and unscripted videos. in this video you've taken a scripted video (dogen) and compared it to an unscripted one (matt) and used that to come to the conclusion that matt's speech is slightly more natural, but in actuality their speaking style in their scripted videos is about the same and it's likely that dogen only sounds that way in his videos and streams and is more natural in person. I imagine the exaggerated and highly enunciated way they speak in scripted videos is to ensure that the target audience (English speakers) can catch everything they're saying.
I am not a Japanese person, so I cannot speak for how good they are but I find it hard to believe that Matt could possibly have more speaking experience than a guy who is married to a Japanese woman and has been living in Japan for 10+ years. Dogen literally uses Japanese every day
It's easy to live in a country for decades and have little speaking experience if 1) Your conversations have limited breadth (i.e. you use Japanese daily but only for basic things) or 2) Your social circle is primarily English speaking. Trust me this is very common among Western foreigners living in Asia and Africa.
@@Solidude4 Exactly. Same reasoning behind "Just because you've lived in a country for x amount of years, doesn't necessarily mean that you're fluent in that language". For instance, not all Americans who are of a certain age let's say 18, will have the same level of English proficiency or command over the language. Even though all of them have lived the same considerable amount of years speaking and living the language.
Dogen literally says he only speaks English at home.
Dogen himself has said on numerous occasions that his Japanese isn't as good as he'd like because he can't speak naturally. And that's mostly because he's a shy introvert. If you don't go out of your way to speak a language, it doesn't matter where you live. I am a native Hungarian, and I swear I've been genuinely starting to get better at English than Hungarian. How? I rarely talk to friends here, my workplace is fully international, and I exclusively consume English language content for entertainment. I barely use the language, so of course I'm not great at it
@@Solidude4 This is a huge, incorrect assumption. He uses the language constantly.
Yuta san, could you make a video about the claims by Matt and his business partner Ken Cannon that if you don't have a perfect pronunciation, no Japanese person will take you seriously and actually speak to you as an equal? Is pitch accent THAT important? They're trying to sell a very expensive course using these statements.
This!
Look at the timing of this. Matt most likely paid him to make this video in order to further promote his course
@@lastninjaitachi That’s very cynical of you!
@@funkyfranx how is it cynical look at the facts. Literally 2 days ago Matt started pushing his scam course saying people need it to speak Japanese, then all of a sudden theres this video made talking about how hes such an amazing speaker. Man such a huge coincidence!!
@@lastninjaitachi correlation and causation. Yes you found a possible motive, but without any sort of proof you sound more deranged than conspiracy nutters.
Joeyさんの日本語は日本人と同じ発音だと思います。MattさんとDogenさんの日本語は非常に素晴らしいですが、日本人ではないことは分かります。
I FRICKEN LOVE YOUR VIDEOS FOR REAL THEY ARE INCREDIBLE
that's right! their Japanese is native level the way they speak Japanese is exactly how we speak .if I hear their Japanese without knowing who they are, I would think they are Japanese.I found their channel recently and I was so surprised it too! this is really interesting video thank you for sharing yuta san😊
Such a cultured man Really, how could you be more likeable than by making Monogatari references?
i've been watching your channel for almost seven years and the way you've started inserting anime into your content more and more over the past couple years has been really amusing. i definitely enjoy hearing about your taste in anime
Can we get a Yuta t-shirt that says "I will teach you the kind of Japanese that real life Japanese people actually speak today, which can be different from the type of Japanese that apps and textbooks teach you"
I think Dogen’s videos are just more scripted which is why they sound less natural.
Add to the fact he's making Japanese videos specifically for English speakers. It's purposefully more textbook.
your english is so good, im just so stunned every time. no japanese youtuber (well, those that didnt grow up over seas that is) can even touches u
Yeah, at least he speaks fluent english unlike John Daub, he's been living in Japan for 25 years and he still speaks Japanese like a typical foreigner. Is John Daub that lazy?
Dogen actually made a video about that he does 20-30 takes per line in his videos and chooses the one that he feels the best about and goes for a specific style
Scripted or not, Yuta's 英語 is seriously上手ですね Edit: I didn't mean to be condescending. It's a reference from Dōgen videos
i'd say it's even better than 上手ですね
Yeah, 上手ですね is like an insult
@@rektninja4289 上手って絶対悪口じゃないよ
@@rektninja4289 yeah use pera2x or sino japanese word for fluency( from the verb to flow)* i wanted to say kein kuso fgo sherlock holmes but im being down to earth here(sseth: integrate into the fuceking soil)
@@rektninja4289ええ？どーゆーこと？ その人は、冗談な作って思いますw
I used to really like Matt, but you should comment on how shady he’s gotten recently with trying to scam people on his secret “method” and the leaked video of him talking about people viewing him as a god and wanting to target rich and gullible “whales.”
Where can I find this leaked video lol
@@CaCtuSnyan everywhere if u know how 4chan hunt a flag using astronomy everything in public medium is endless not counting inteligentsia member which is not for public consumes
he has always been like that and there have been multiple signs over the years, him previously fucking over his business partners in the most shady ways. Unfortunately this is not new and he will continue to abuse, scam, lie and cheat.
Look at the timing of this video. Seems oddly suspicious almost like matt asked him to make it
@@lastninjaitachi auspicious for matt inauspicious for the uninitiated aka how the greek sinister is bad but the roman sinister is good - etymonline
Yuta-san has been looking very good lately. The hairstyle and the short beard really suit him well!
Can you make a review on Mackenyu’s Japanese over the years? Please! People say he still has an accent, but I’m foreign so for me he sounds like a native. I’d like to know what you think about his Japanese as a Japanese native speaker :)
Yeah, John Daub for example, he's been living in Japan for 25 years and he still speaks Japanese like a typical foreigner. Is John Daub that lazy?
They're all great, and so are you Yuta.
First of all: nobody is better than Nagatoro. Second: great video!
Isn't Joey a native speaker? 🤔
You should get in touch with Oriental Pearl, who also speaks Chinese, or even Cathy Cat, who's another polyglot
@Winter However, he never assessed her Japanese skills in the same way he's assessing these fine chaps, hence my statement about these ladies.
I love Ueno-san but I wasn't expecting it to be mentioned
Joey has straight up taught elders in his company geexplus about obscure kanji structures that they never even heard of. 40+ year old Japanese salary men were learning from him lol.
I haven't watched this video, but I'm expecting a banger plug for Learn Japanese with Yuta.
Bruh can we get a "Who speaks better English? for Japanese KZheadrs? Yuta and Sora the Troll would make good candidates.
ATSU IS STORONGEST
Matt's Japanese is of course better than many foreigners. But at the same there are so many foreigners that speak Japanese much better than him, that aren't using scam tactics to try and sell an extremely overpriced course. He either tries to portray himself or others portray as him some kind of expert, when he is not. Perhaps this is his doing, or perhaps this is the result of trying to fit a persona. No one knows but him. Instead of this one example of Matt's Japanese in the video, if you actually watch his stuff you can find a lot where his phrasing is.. awkward, even to a learner's ear. I like Yuta, love the work he does, and I'm even subscribed to his premium course which I think is worth the price contrary to what some other learners think. The timing of this video compared to the situation with Matt's content and the current opinion on him in the Japanese learning community, and also that Matt's section doesn't have a "but..." is really hard to overlook.
Scam is a heavy charge. Care to say more? I watch him and I think he gives a lot of fantastic advice. But he's also (IMO deservedly) quite confident in his JP ability. Maybe this is the reason for all that venom in your comment?
@@_MRK87 I used to think the same as you. While I don't think he's a terrible person, if you just look into him a bit you can easily find how shady he can be. There is a leaked video chat where he talks about making a "grossly overpriced" (his words) learning service marketed through an email list to target people with a lot of money. This is exactly what project uproot is doing. While I understand this is a common business practice and in the end he is running a business the more you look into him the more sketchy behavior he emits. He also talks about how good he is at making people believe he is wayyy better than he actually is at Japanese and he seems to have a bit of a god complex too. I do enjoy his content tho lol
He isnt all hes cracked up to be. Hes not bad but he is by no means better than most long time learners. He even stated himself he over inflates how good he is to sell his product.
@@khalil1626 link please?
@@_MRK87 Mostly the marketing tactics that they used. The whole framing of "you've got an infection and I can cure you"; the FOMO now-or-never pressure, etc. All of those things are common tactics used in scams. Mind you, that doesn't necessarily mean it is a scam. It just means they're using similar tactics. Those tactics + the fact that both Matt and Ken have had ventures fail quite publicly in the recent past, and that was enough for me to stay away from it. I hope the people who signed up get their money's worth, but personally I'm playing it safe. Just too many red flags. I guess right now the most worrying thing is that there are people saying they paid some amount just to apply, but it doesn't seem like that guarantees they will be selected for the course. Maybe they'll be reimbursed, idk, but apparently there's a lack of transparency there and some people are worried that they won't get their money back if they don't get selected. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Ueno was a great show. Yuta is a man of taste, I see.
Y que tal está su español, Don Yuta? Ha seguido practicando?
Good work
Dogen recognized that his natural speech (even in english) is not as "eloquent" as others. In his unscripted videos he struggles to express his ideas (makes me empathise because i'm in the same boat lol), even though you can tell he has a very large vocabulary and knowledge. On the other hand, Matt is very fast to convey precise ideas and Joey has a distinctly comedic timing. What i'm trying to say is that there's some people that have an overall better communication/social skill in different aspects. I'm not saying that Dogen is a bad communicator, he has specialized in scripting and reciting and he's amazing at it. But Matt and Joey have a different set of skills which gives them a more "natural" vibe. In his defense, the unscripted videos or streams of Dogen are almost always alone speaking to the camera which is completely different to speaking to people.
I have been learning Japanese for 4-5 years but my speaking is still very basic (JLPT4). Listening is what I think is the most proficient. English is my second language, while Japanese, Mandarin and Spanish are my third to fifth ones. It’s very hard these days to make only one thing to the perfection. Since I live in Japan, my Japanese has been judged by the Japanese people whose Japanese is their first language. Also, I don’t have any other international people to practice my Japanese with. Japanese is a very niche language which gives me a unique learning experience than English, Mandarin and Spanish which are quite mass.
Would absolutely love to see you compare khatzumoto too
*I WAS NOT EXPECTING WHAT THE PERSON HE WAS INTERVIEWING WAS WEARING*
I believe Dogen has mentioned he writes (or used to?) scripts for his videos, and that his pronunciation is better in videos than in real life (feel free to fact check me. I believe I heard him say that in a video 2 years ago?) Still very impressive nonetheless. I grew up learning English and have been in the States for 10 years, and I still write more eloquently than I speak.
I'm curious what other Japanese people think of their Japanese too. Maybe a street interview?
I’m Japanese. I think Joey is a native Japanese speaker so it’s even odd to argue whether his Japanese is good or not. Matt and Dogen’s Japanese is impressive but not native level. I think Matt’s Japanese sounds more natural than Dogen.
Yuta had me rewind a lot because I was laughing at the anime jokes
"Why Takagi-san is better than Nagatoro-san" Sorry, Yuta, but my loyalty prevents me from watching any more after that atrocious statement
Wouldn't Joey class as being 'well spoken' as he has more vocabulary than majority of the average natives.
Your Japanese English accent is more entertaining than a native accent Yuta so don't think your English speaking is bad👍
Yeah, at least Yuta speaks fluent english unlike John Daub, he's been living in Japan for 25 years and he still speaks Japanese like a typical foreigner. Is John Daub that lazy?
i feel like you could use yuta's side profile as the chad reaction image from the virgin vs chad memes, my man's head is cut from marble lmao
anime references in this video are pure gold change my mind
😲 interesting all of them acquired the language differently.
“Private research in his room” 🤣😂
4:49 Me turning my phone then realising💀💀💀💀
I see, Yuta is a man of culture as well. The anime opinions I agree, especially with Takagi san.
He has said so many brave things
Yuta wants to get noticed so hard LOL
I swear your anime opinions are some of the most based We'll fight for Takagi supremacy together!
It is not really fair to use Joey since he grew up with Japanese as 2nd native language and never had to truly learn it as second language like Matt and Dogen
But that doesn't change the fact that his Japanese is better.
@@mfreak1126 maybe fluency is very subjective now-a-days.
@@mfreak1126 Of course it is better. Japanes is his 2nd native language .
YES, THANK YOU. IT'S NOT FAIR TO COMPARE A NATIVE TO LEARNERS
@@mfreak1126 But it's not relevant then because of different circumstances. Should only compare people that learned under similar circumstances.
That's a nice surprise, didn't think Yuta would bring up Ueno san as an anime reference.
“Tagaki san is better than Nagatoro.” Legend you won yourself a sub.
No cap. That clip with Matt is from a supermarket that is near me. I had to do a double take since I was like wtf I've been here. FYI its an Uwajimaya in Oregon.
the best way to measure a person's language skills (in my opinion) talk to a native speaker on the phone. like, try ordering a pizza or something.
Yuta teaching us how to be a real Japanese speaking chad
I like how this dude has made an active effort to be physically expressive like westerners when talking 😂
3:33 Hasn't Dogen lived in Japan for a while? I'm pretty sure he's spoken more than Matt
Not really sure if I‘m in a position to say this as a non-native speaker but listening to Dogen leaves me with next to zero 違和感 whatsoever while Matt, despite being very fluent and pretty much expressing himself the way a native would, still clearly sounds like a foreigner to me
Great video! A fan all of their content really
It’s true dogen does try hard but he makes a strong effort to “ SOUND “ Japanese
Considering I just came from another video of you'll praising how amazing his Japanese, looking for video evidence of how good his Japanese is .....I'm going to guess Joey 👌
I believe Animeman actually have 漢字検定3級 or some sort which makes him better Kanji master than I am. And I am native Japanese who have been living outside of Japan for last 15 years, nowadays I have problem reading/writing kanji even some elementary school level kanji...
Hold up there, Yuta. What id you *just* Say about Hayase Nagatoro?
I feel like Dogen’s way of thinking is very conceptual, so his words tend to be abstract in some sense. What he speaks in his sketches can convey a certain awkwardness, which he turns into humor. Doing this in Japanese is a difficult task because you’re putting together words that have never been spoken by a native Japanese. Even if it’s grammatically correct, it’s hard to tell if it’s “fluent” or not.
Good comparison video.
Your English is great btw Yuta
Yeah, at least he speaks fluent english unlike John Daub, he's been living in Japan for 25 years and he still speaks Japanese like a typical foreigner. Is John Daub that lazy?
@@gofer3836lols who knows😂
@4:36 This reminds me of a quote from Hanekawa from Monogatari. "I don't know everything, I just know what I know". lol
Good video
4:08 sheeeeesh my man speakng the facts
Other foreigner friends from Malaysia, China that I had met speaks very good Japanese too.. although they are Asian but still not Japanese too .. perhaps Yuta San can consider doing some video about Malaysian or Chinese living in Japan too :) thank you
Yeah, at least he speaks fluent english unlike John Daub, he's been living in Japan for 25 years and he still speaks Japanese like a typical foreigner. Is John Daub that lazy?
Appreciate the monogatari reference
4:38 is that a reference to Nisio Isin's monogatari series?
Joey reading kanji dictionary for fan in childhood has same energy as obelix falling inside bowl full of super potion while he was kid
But would you be making that Takagi > Nagatoro argument in Japanese with English subtitles or...?
I knew we couldn’t get through this without a Monogatari reference
Your English speaking is great. Till you said it, I wouldn't have even thought about it. (your comments 3/4ers into video)
Your spoken English is quite good.
What Matt does is very impressive. But about accents and the verbal idiosyncrasies associated with being foreign, I see no reason to worry about them. An accent is usually one of the things most cherished about a foreign speaker.
As much as I like this channel, there's a reason why I don't really follow people like them. I only observe this behavior in the Japanese learning community for some reason, but some people treat learning it as a contest, trying to dogpile each other to see who the best non-native is, and who can outperform the "champion". There are so many non-natives of for instance English and Spanish, very rarely do learners gain media attention and natives lose their minds. Natives of either usually just give a nonchalant reaction like "oh cool, you speak it well", whereas non-native Japanese speakers are viewed as gods among men. Some find this inspiring, but I honestly think it sends the wrong message to learners and ruins the spirit of the language learning community. It's not a contest nor a performance, yet it develops that mindset in others thinking it's okay and that's how it is when it's actually toxic. You can speak a language well and still not get along with others. If you're boring or otherwise unpleasant to be around, most people like myself would be out of there fast, in which case proficiency doesn't really matter now does it? Have a life outside learning a language if you truly want natives to like you because they don't owe you anything.
Mind you, I have learned Japanese but not actively anymore, nor do I take it as seriously as these guys nowadays. It's become more of a side thing. I'm currently actively learning Icelandic when I can and honestly find it harder than Japanese. If you don't know it, you can't make a good comparison. What kind of value are they contributing to the community anyway by showing off?
You're totally right about this only being the most visible in the Japanese learning community. Its such a pain in the ass.
@@dante4444 Exactly! Natives are generally supportive of learners' efforts. I've seen Spanish learners encourage each other which is great. But when some Japanese learners encounter each other online, I've seen a bunch of things happen. Like asking how long they've been at it, trying to one-up each other over how many words they know, how good their grammar and pitch accents are, how many kanji they know, etc. Or a beginner saying they're learning Japanese, then somebody pretending to be a native writing something the beginner doesn't understand and making them feel like a subordinate. There's a subreddit called "why is the Japanese learning community so elitist?" or something like that if you want to look it up
@@michaelrespicio5683 I've read that exact thread. Most of it has to do with gatekeeping to be honest, mainly by folks who revere Japan and their culture/women. Also, being an anime fanatic has something to do with it. Its like they're trying to add many checks and balances to prevent the "dirty west" from polluting Japan.
@@dante4444 It turns out that's the exact wording. If you look it up, there are other ones like it. Unfortunately attaching non-KZhead links gets the comment automatically deleted now so I can't add it. Honestly the gatekeeping thing is kind of cringy and have no idea how this all started. But this is why I often try to remind people to use the language (regardless of what it is) with the natives and let them decide if accept you. If they do, then who cares what non-natives have to say about your skills? Connecting with others isn't just about a common language, which is why we should all have other things in life so that interactions become more fun and engaging.
4:36 Hanekawa Tsubasa moment
4:36 sneaky Hanekawa
Let me tell you something that is really Sad, there is 12 volumes of Bunny girl senpai light novel but only 4 of them are translated to English at the time, And the movie adapted 2 more volumes,so there's 6 more volumes that I have no idea what they are about :(
"Culturally sophisticated" is an interesting way to describe Redo of Healer.
You already did this
have ANY of the featured Japanese language masters passed the Kanken level 1?
It's not uncommon, indeed it is to be expected that, fluent non-native language speakers will be better at the language than native speakers. This is because nearly all native speakers pick up the language naturally and learn only what they need to. They can use (or at least intuitively understand) all the tenses without knowing their name, for example. Conversely, non-native fluent speakers were likely tested and otherwise required to deliberately learn things that native speakers may not even be aware they understand.
You are right; it may not be intuitive to them what the rules are, but because they know the rules, they can apply it more consistently and thus can have better grammar/syntax. I speak English practically natively but only relatively recently learned some of the proper grammar rules (for that section on the SAT) that I have previously been unaware of