The police went into his home when they knew he was out and opened his gun safes like tin cans. In the week we launch legal insurance to go with Fieldsports membership, we profile a shooter who had his guns seized in spectacular manner, following allegations against him by his ex wife. Phil Waymouth warns that shooting is ‘under attack’. On a positive note, Terry Doe unveils the Bugatti Veyron of airguns: the Skout Epoch, Diggory Hadoke comments on the rise of the regional sporting auction, David has the news on the news stump, and James puts together the best hunting videos on KZhead in Hunting KZhead. It’s another bumper #fieldsportsbritain
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The only way to own a firearm and not be hassled by the uk police is to be a criminal and own one illegally.
U are bang on there bro keep youre lips sealed
So true. 🙂
Same in Australia. In the great gun ban of 1996 (I wish the yanks would get it through their thick heads NOBODY "gave up" a damn thing, it was a CONFISCATION), *only* lawfully owned, registered firearms were seized. Criminals that had "unregistered" firearms weren't touched at all.
It's the reason I wouldn't get a FAC. I don't trust the Police or the government and wouldn't want to give them any excuses to come to my home.
@@johncarry5989 👍🏻 Never voluntarily put yourself on their radar🤝🏻🍻
The older i get the more i realise we are not free.
freedom has never been free
We never were. Freedom is an illusion to keep us under control. The real pity is most people have no clue.
And it's only going to get worse
You have woken up to the reality we live in .
It’s a deep rabbit hole.
What an evil woman, she should be punished for falsely accusing him.
Female victim hood mentality - especially online, gets away with whatever they want, and even more so these days with female empowerment urging the millennial generation to Instagram themselves and "only fans" services - yet get full backing by the law when they receive ill moraled comments or a stalker!
False accusations for anything should receive the sentence that the accusations were likely to get.
@@RichardEnglander I agree! when armed police burst their way in to your property with guns drawn your life is within an inch being ended. These slanderers of false accusations simply do not care or consider, because they don't have to. no consequences.
Like most women in our society, they can get away with this crap and are more than happy to behave like this because they KNOW they can get away with it
Unfortunately they never have, and never will. Accountability is their kryptonite
His partner should be charged with wasting Police time..
Or perverting the course of justice
Strictly, it's perverting the course of justice. Edit: yep that.
Also making a false statement to the police is an offence I believe
She probably wound him up and then made a baseless accusation
Happened to me. If you shoot for a living its such an easy way for an ex to get at you or make you lose your job. Mine admitted after (sadly I did not have any way of recording it or know she was going to admit it) that she and her also adulterous boyfriend had figured if they could get the locked up and/or fired them I couldn't afford a solicitor for fight her and keep my house. The cops have no interest whatsoever in the truth or of evidence.
They don't do this to criminals
Like the groom gangs
12 months ago the police turn up wanting my guns because my ex had made a accusation of none violent controlling behaviour, I asked for a definition of that but they couldn’t articulate a definition that made any sense. My guns were taken into storage at a large financial cost, eventually they gave them back and advised me not to put myself in that position again, I asked how I could protect myself false accusations again they couldn’t answer how I could do that.
Happens far too often these days, there’s absolutely no come back on accusers
This happens in Canada as well, during a separation when the wife lawyer finds out you’re a firearms owners they always suggest a protection order and seizing the firearms just to strengthen the wife’s case during the divorce. There are no lower individuals in Canada than family lawyers, utter scum!!
What do you expect with the kind of morons the police hire. They are just useful idiots blindly following orders.
because victim blaming is fine if the victim is a man
The government and police would prefer that no one has guns other than the police.
AND CRIMINALS.
SIR KEER, ( spelt wrongly) has said publicly that he sees no reason for any guns in private ownership. Let us all be mindful how we vote at the GE this year.
And our enermys.
@@redhunterknives6675funny that. I see no reason why the Labour Party exists. I remember that slimy Herbert Blair getting the government to delay the Cullen report until after the party conferences so that no party made political points out of the Dunblane tragedy and he stood up on stage and said “a labour government will ban handguns” so doing exactly what he said they shouldn’t do. Starmer is Blair returned from the political dead and last time they were in power they lead the economy to distraction and we’ve never recovered. We were on the way under early years of Cameron and Osborne but it’s all gone to pot now.
I saw a film once where only the police and army had guns....it was called Schindlers List.
Meanwhile, over half the areas in England and Wales haven’t had one single burglary solved in the last three years. Shameful.
How many cops who abuse their partners And are still ok to carry firearms and Tasers Utter nonsense
They know the score,they go full score with ladies night and get life in prison. Fully abusive alcoholic power.
Great testament in how burglar safe your gun cabinet was, but a sad indictment of the dystopian times we live in.
Yes, my friend, I agree. I've realised the truth about gun cabinets and the false sense of security around them. I now see if our belongings are locked away, they'll make life difficult for a burglar who I'd expect to be in a rush and have the sound of an alarm going off while they are trespassing and breaking the law. In this case, when the Police called, they'll have the equipment and time to get and do what they want to. No matter how safe we think something is, this film says it all, even when we've done nothing wrong. Lock, stock, and barrel.
The poor bloke, both the FAC owner but more over the owner of the house. Absolutely disgusting behaviour the police should be ashamed. Apologises from the higher up's do not fix the mental damage caused by this
Police and shame dont go together, they make sure of that when they process new recruits.
@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 And love to use the exact same terminology whenever a member of the religion of peace goes on a stabbing rampage.!!! Handy term for the police isn't it,but then nothing surprises me anymore, it's blatant two teir policing at its utmost worse.!!!
Needs a good solicitor prepared to take the cps on
Great Britain is absolutely screwed...
Why hasn't the wife of the poor chap who's had his guns taken been prosecuted for wasting police time? I hope he's also claiming for destruction of property and replacement of his cabinet. Subscription renewed, WITH INSURANCE :-)
The police are not interested in some males chance of seeking justice for also claims, they are totally interested in YOU if you own anything that resembles a weapon. that's the state of the UK. Nothing happens to these "false claim, slanderers" - I know, I've been in his position (without FAC gear).
B3cause allegations cant be proven either way.
@@snowflakemelter1172thwn ZERO action should be taken. It is disgraceful to say that because we can't prove it either way, we are going to sieze your property just in case.. that is legalised theft using uniformed thugs to do the work.
Same thing happened to me twice, a member of the public saw me with a rifle on private property from the road and reported they were stressed seeing me it, got me a possession of firearms with intent to cause fear of violence ,two year suspended sentence, and end ex girlfriend only mentioned I had guns being interviewed and they persuaded her to say she was intimidated and I got the same thing again. Now I can't get a job because I have firearms charges on my CRB check. No crime ever committed, just the police getting people to say I scared them for doing a legal activity, no law broken .
You could have prevented this with some common sense. Never brandish it, never, not even on your own "private" property (which isn't private if everyone saw you). I get what you were trying to do, testing people. Testing people around you in any way will get you swat'ed, it's just that simple.
@@ToreDL87well we can tell you got extra chromosomes
@@ToreDL87he wasn’t trying to test anyone from what he wrote you just like to misconstrue what people say to make yourself sound better.. yeah good one. Definitely had to lunch money stolen at school by the bully’s
Can you explain "reported they were stressed seeing ME IT" What?!?? Makes nonsense it's like reading the daily mail... Can you fix your sentences
@@deusvult8251 really? insert "with" between "me it" and it becomes "me with it" strange you're so bothered about it. Are you a cop?
Giving BASC a run for their money!! Said it, years ago. Bring it on Charlie, we need a REAL voice!
The Gun Control Network is more pro gun than ban-lead-BASC!
They were hopeless when it happened to me.
BASC are only interested in supporting the police utterly useless
UK has fallen...
Fell ages ago, chap. We, in the countryside community are holding on to what little is left.
couldn't have put it better myself
Long gone
The UK, remains, what has fallen is England the land and all its estates, administered funnily enough by the UK Corporation [Bill of Rights preamble] read it closely the "estates of the people" not the people themselves thus consent is required does private property i.e Guns fall into that category of Estates, you bet it will, a little digression there so back to the crux of it, a corporation is is nothing more than a legal concept who most, misguidedly accept as a nation and reside within the confines of that concept, it only exists on paper, just like your state created IDENTIFICATION AND LICENCES, it is a legal ENTITY, not you the flesh and blood, a corporation created and contracted to courtesy of those selling you the illusion and sadly most are not aware of the gravity of the despotic deception they accept as law and life and even their corporate name, doing business as a LLP, companies house will tell you that, and the legislation that comes from it is nothing more than company policy for its subordinates to adhere to, they call it law, it is not law, it is wholly administrative, their own books tell you that, namely Halsburys Laws, and that private company policy aka Legislation only has the force of law via consent, LICENSING anyone, that is your agreement and thus contract, it's worth mentioning you are also under Martial law by acceptance, as a legal contract in commercial intercourse is derived from Admiralty and Maritime law, that's the law of the Sea, the Admiralty is militaristic by nature, and their is your Martial law, they are at war with you through commerce, Article 55 of the 1949 Haigh Convention tells you this through the legal concept of Usury, again more war talk, you are all HOSTILE STATES, being administered upon, LEGALLY, the UK are signatories and ratified in 1980, essentially all LEGAL FRAUD done the complete lack of full non misleading disclosure of the facts, but then they hide behind ignorance of the Law is not to be held as an excuse, as its all out there to be known, consent to it all makes it legal and thus an agreement to become the law you are all liable under. What's disheartening is the misleading information by this channel, condoning in misleading information a d even worse legal advice, there you have it more commercial intercourse at great expense, on and for the record it is the common law where your rights to land based laws are upheld. They want full control and the will use folks ignorance to attack your unalienable right to bare arms that, simple.
Negativity
Sounds very over the top by the police, shooting is dying off in Ireland for the same reason.
Apart from IRA and their stockpiles
i gave up my shot gun, they are making it harder and harder to have a gun
The police have no clue as to where the real ( lost ) weapons are hidden
In the mosks from what I've heard.
Well done fieldsports channel, on putting together that wonderful insurance package, its sadly needed by us all, but wonderful its there for all to have 👏👏👏
Its hypocritical for a barrister to say get legal fees cover yet he charges way too much. TRY MAKING IT CHEAPER SO PEOPLE CAN FIGHT THIS. Total rip of merchants
They allow the law to function in such a way as to make anyone a victim of the costly legal process. If they didn't then they'd be out of a job. They do not fight for freedoms but only for fighting. it's time the world realised the issue of 'law' and 'lore' and that 'law' invents victims for profit and subjugation.
100 percent
It’s happening all around the world. Look what they’re doing in Australia
All around the white world
If. you believe this to be a "one off" and only a recent action by the Police (due to hate crimes and Internet victim hood mentality) your wrong! Back in 2012 my house was raided by armed police with a bomb squad and sniffer dogs whilst I wasn't present, they smashed the front door off its hinges and turned the entire place upside down leaving the premises boarded up in the process.... why? because back then I owned a Webley Vulcan break barrel 22 sub 12ft/lb and 2 other budget side levers putting out around 6-7ft/lb in. .177 cal, no FAC or illegal weapons were owned or found, and why was a warrant granted for this raid and snatch and grab? well it turns out a distant ex had "teamed up" on facebook with a recent bitter ex girlfriend (both in they're mid 40s take in mind) to through the distant ex:s brotherly connections within the police to make a bogus claim that I was a terrorist making bombs! considering also my complete non existant life of not being any part of the world of social media not advertising my hobbies or sporting life and ZERO threats made to any individual the likely hood of said distance ex's brother high ranking in the force had pulled string on her behalf with no evidence. the outcome is myself paying for all the damage the police did, with no charges or apologies and everything taken by this particular police force walked back in to the boot of my car after I was forced in to an interview! and during that interview I had put 2 and 2 together and told the investigating dc who had made the bogus claim, with him slightly grinning but also not confirming my assumption! but yet confirm.ing the original complaint and who it was made by. 2 very bitter women and the first to also (the one related to the law) being a secret drug addict and associate to drug dealers!! (that's why I ended that relationship).... summary, if you own any gun - even a Cork GAT the current system throws upon you with a stern suspicious. mind, when you have connections within the law you can abuse the law by association. and for folks like this man, it can turn the law abiding citizen in to a person that distrusts all that they believed the police and the courts to be about. I feel for this man, and all of you precision sportsmen alike, not to mention the world of farming and agriculture! and yet.... thousand of suspected terrorists prance the streets of London chanting threats to the western democratic society, hurling bricks and bottles at police, stabbing politicians..... but if you own any type. of firearm YOU ARE suspect number 1. This HAS to change! and I speak from experience obviously.
Yh and so we should be checked out if someone says something, the police do not know you from adam so have to treat you as if you are capable as you do have the means to cause damage because you own firearms…the police had you on the radar because of accusations and fair play on them for acting on it… you didnt have your house raided for no reason mate. If you suspected someone of terrorism you would want them investigated right away. Its shit that in your claims it was all false and those women should be prosecuted however the police cannot take chances
@@ZeldasGhost Adam? who are you commenting on? and too?
@@ZeldasGhostwhen the people making false allegations are dealt with severely I will agree until then you have no idea what you are talking about
@@nickcoppard5335you made no sense what so ever
@@ZeldasGhost have you been burgled by the police on a power trip ? Obviously not , and as for not known from Adam ? No point conversing
I had a less violent situation but similar in context. I had several pistols and some ammunition and shot at a few ranges in the midlands. I heard a story at the LNER club where a shooters wife reported him for intimidation and he suffered a similar removal of his guns by the police. When my ex wife left me , I remembered this story and I arranged my best mate, also a FAC holder, to take my guns and ammo on his ticket by transfer. Strangely enough a few months later I was visited by the police who insisted on seeing my guns, I told them that they were not on the premises and had been transferred to another shooter as I suspected my ex wife would try this tactic. The police did follow this up and tried to intimidate my friend and turned up in force at his house. He called the local firearms office at the Nottingham HQ and refused entry as thee bobbies were not firearms officers. This was an end of the situation, as in 1996 we had to give everything up anyway.
Disgusting the way this person was treated, The police should go after the real criminals! If he could afford it he should sue.
You want them to arrest themselves?
The police should be in court , what they did was illegal . They don't even need to look at licences but just go online . We used to have a police force that operated with our consent but it's not like that any more is it ? I'll bet they won't give his guns back and will think of excuses and lies ,
Intimidating an older person to gain entry, did they have a warrant???
If you count your blessings, nobody but your own mental health injured and you get your belongings returned - the likely hood of being able to sui is very very low and very very expensive! most people in this man's position as with my own just want to put it to bed and move on. poking a bear with a stick comes to mind, the stick being the current policing system and they're agenda and priorities - the bear being all. of us.
The police officers that are private gun owners get this kind of abuse I'm sure, ha ha.
What an absolutely ludicrous and HEAVY HANDED approach by our police force!!! He should be recompensed and given a FULL WRITTEN APOLOGY!!!....but hey, we're only the fools that PAY THEIR WAGES!!!!! What a CLOWN COUNTRY there UK has become...and I'm from there!! IT'S UTTERLY SHAMEFUL HOW OUR POLICE FORCE ARE BEHAVING THESE DAYS!!!!
Absolutely awful
Home Office and Police responces to failings in Plymouth have been to strip “Many Thousands” of certificate holders of sporting guns by accusations of “Not Using Your Guns Enough”. Retail gunshops nationwide are overflowing with guns in storage and auction houses overflowing, with sporting guns that Police have crassly removed from paying clients.
When seconds count the Police are minutes away. Police were never there to protect you. Understand that
The met police should be ashamed of them salfs absolutely disgusting 🤬🤬
Yes they should, but this was the super intelligent individuals at Devon and Cornwall Constabulary who are famous for not jerking their knees after an event.
@@Marcus_Shaw The problem is, I wouldn't trust any Police force to get out of thier own way!
The same almost happened to my brother in law in Poland, luckily the police there didn’t go along with the false accusations due to her past behavior. Thankfully he has a new wife now who is absolutely lovely.
Such fear of law-abiding citizens. What next? They take away pointy sticks and ban harsh words? Wait... they're already doing that.
If there is an allegation of a crime or a dv incident it needs to be investigated. Saying that the gent was in custody so was no risk. What should have happened was that officers accompany him home and he voluntary surrenders his guns. Once they allegations have been investigated and there is no case to answer the guns are returned. Its always the case when something is reported out of hours the force control manager who has little firearms expierence does a knee jerk reaction and sends the arv around to seize guns. Its all about back covering they arent bothered about you its all down to risk assessing.
No one should have their guns taken on a accusation.if there is no crime or proof of a crime they shouldn't be able to just take your guns.It is unreal what you guys have to go through to have guns to begin with and than all someone has to do is make an accusation and the cops can come take your guns.That's bulls**t,does all this gun control stop the criminals from getting and using guns?There should have to be an investigation BEFORE they can come into your home and seize your guns.It's horrible the way legal gun owners are treated!
Why should you voluntarily surrender your guns for a false accusation? In their eyes it just makes you look even more guilty. Innocent until PROVEN guilty.
There is no mention of the ceditibilty of the complaint. The police aren't willing to take the chance. Two many tragic cases. If you don't vs then they will revoke. If you're revoked the only course of action left to you is appeal. That's alot of money. If there is no evidence then the guns will be returned. Remember you are only seeing one side of the story.
If you voluntarily hand over your guns there is no procedure to get them back. Really. If they have a warrant to get them then that is different and there is a process to get them back.
@RichardEnglander you are wrong. If you are revoked the only cause of action is to appeal through the Crown Court. If you vs you are temporary handed over your guns to the police or an rfd. This is a temporary solution whilst any investigation or something similar is concluded. The incorrect information you are posting can have serious consequences on others.
It just shows you how important this channel is, otherwise we wouldn't have a clue what's going on with the law enforcement, when you own a fire arm you have to be on the next level of being a law Abiding Citizen and they know that yet we are treated like criminals, SAD ! Cheers from across the pond ☘
law abiding citizens need insurance for protection from the police... Protection! From the police?!?!? Being said just as matter of fact is actually sickening. Clearly showing clubs would rather make money off this than actually band together and fight this. This country is tanked on every level.
Interviewing partners now, present/ past… give it a couple more years they will have to interview everyone who lives on your road to check weather you say good morning in an unconfrontational manner🙄👎
Careful. Todays jokes are tomorrows reality.
And now they are coming for are crossbows as well
Welcome to police state Britain.
Yet again guilty till proven innocent. When are the police going to follow law and not feelings.
Na,yr guilty until proved innocent been like this forever really.
Yep in the same position, malicious complaints, and the FAO screaming down the phone, Surender voluntary or I'll turn up and get them! Not even a reasonable conversation. What comes when 'Guidelines' overtake the 'Law'.
"Quick! The people have some power, mobilize before they get more"
It shows how desperate and terrified the police are of people fighting back.
Fighting back from what
not even fighting back! no! it's being able to have or to own a degree of threat or protection against the machine, that's what they don't like. you can't fight back and the lesser your able to even attempt to fight back the lesser of J interest you become to them - because afterall they exist to protect and serve right?.... 8 hours for an ambulance, a call from a PC after you ring 999 after a death threat - the next day!
@@buyingselling4889 The "machine" being the entire current system, along with its classis, two tier morals, abuse of power, and the unelected dictating to people in the real world whilst they live in a totally different word.
@@buyingselling4889 I can indeed see your comment
@@buyingselling4889 Granting the right to bare arms will never happen, and it's not really part of the conversation, nor subject matter, if you look at the current statistics, it's knife crime that ranks the highest threat across the UK. we're are however debating the automatic assumptions and treatment towards a traditional sport, of Nationwide sportsmen - because a firearm is involved. it's funny how archery and martial arts which include boken , swords, and spire type weapons are not frowned upon if ownership or participation of any offensive or defensive weapon is in concern. the sub 12ft/lb restriction to the majority of air rifles and 6ft/lb restriction to pistols renders as a generalisation less lethal and only purposeful for small pest hunting and target sports. whilst we have gangs accross the country with black market 9mm Mac 10's and an increasingly armed police force who are visibly anxious to use they're offensive weaponry which is and can not be deemed defensive as the opposition has neither the ability or capability to own an equal offensive or defensive weapon legally. The UK is not the USA and if you look at the gun crime statistics of the USA compared to registered owners, you'll discover its the illegal owners of criminals not the legal owners of arms that overwhelm the gun crime related statistics. The overall problem with the UK and the "system" I previously mentioned is - increasingly removing your rights and freedom by means of premeditated automatic assumption (being judgement). Yes there has to be limitation and mediation but that is not happening with this sport. it's not all about flexing what you own or pulling the trigger either, gunsmithing is both a trade and a hobby, it's also a craft, being outside in nature, away from politics, social media and everything else we are bombarded with there is peace, quiet, you and a paper target at 35 yards away and all the time in the world with the birds singing away in the distance, those sparse moments of escapism, out in nature or socialising with common interests at a club with like minded individuals all that respect the sport - Who has the right to Snatch that away from you whilst automatically labelling you as a criminal for it? sorry, it appears we do not agree, and I expect it's because your outlook on "guns" doesn't come from the majority of legal gun owners, club members, hunters and precision sportsmen.
Jumping to the conclusion of "You're going to shoot someone" from anyone being a bit of a bonehead or short tempered is the pinnacle of nanny state over reach. And 'legal fees' being such a problem should be paid by police as they always initiate the issue. It throws financial debt unlawfully at private individuals. They fortune tell a future event and that is unlawful, let alone a mental state of psychopathy. You are in no way Free until the 'law' acts only upon actual crime involving a tangible body.
As soon as you are looking at divorce papers, take your firearms to somewhere that can store them. Don’t have them in the house. When it happened to me, that was the very first thing I did. My FEO was very sensible when I was the victim of false accusation. Yes he held my certificate, but let me carry on shooting with the club as if I were a probationer with my rifles in their armoury. I checked them in and out of my locker with the club secretary there to witness so I had protection. When it was all sorted, I got my certificate back and he was really nice about it all. Mentioned he wanted to prosecute my ex-wife for wasting police time, but his boss said the department had other priorities for the limited man power.
Well I’ve updated my membership, so having this insurance now, after hearing these cases, definitely makes me feel happier!
Thank you Bernard - we've been working to get something in place for years - We've heard too many unfortunate stories. ATB David
Well done Fieldsports Channel another great initiative with the insurance!
Thank you Peter - ATB David
@@fieldsportstv Does this new insurance cover also cover AWC in Scotland? The insurance schedule only says FAC and SGC, but surely the exact same risk applies to members in Scotland with AWC?
legal Insurance doesn't always cover. They have a get out clause 51 percent that they can abuse.
I’d go further than that. If the conditions of your legal expenses insurance are that it won’t support you if the insurer is advised that there is less than 51% prospect of a successful appeal, then you will not get cover I the VAST MAJORITY of cases. Firearms licence appeals are notoriously difficult to win and the post-Plymouth statutory guidance has had the effect of making them even harder still.
If the police haven't got a warrant signed in wet ink by a judge of the court you should never let the police in your home.
I wonder if police officers partners were given a check every month to see how mentally stable they were, how many would fail yet they are supposed to act impartially and fair as protectors of the people as they are supposed to be servents of the people, they are not the law or jugges as this is not 2000ad but a fair amount seem to act and look like juge dredd. It seems to me, and this is just my observation that they seem more like a private security firm that has so many quotas to make to earn there budget every quarter, so go after the easy arrest or prosecution, So heres a question how often are the arrest numbers adjusted when there is no prosecution. As an old builder i have worked in and around the mod and police stations and iv personal nollege of tools stolen when the only access was police officers and on another day a full amo clip found on the floor in the car park and no investigation or fuss made, just silence. Now please dont think i have an a thing against police officers as i dont, as i have friends that are or have served in the police force that have dealt with some horrific things and in my book they are bloody heros and to a man they have strong morals and hate corruption, but do you no what every one of those freinds is ex military so perhaps the police commition should actively recruit from the military again as it might save money and keep ex service personal from living ruff and let's face it all ex military personel are well trained. At this moment in time i think the british police force is nothing but a business that is acting like one of the biggest gangs in the uk and a dam wealthy one at that, it all so seems to have a lot of personalitys that have some sort of perconal agenda which is more than likely behind the gun grab as it only takes one person hi up to push for the grab to make them selves look good and to seem like they are supposedly protecting the publick, but we all no most gun crime is committed by un licenced criminals with eleagle guns which we all so no they dont seem to be able to deal with.
I have heard of a lot of gun owners having a devil of a game renewing their licenses. Do the police know something we don't
I have the greatest admiration for you and the team Charlie. Please keep going as you are, we really need you and others such as the Alliance and BASC all working together. Thank you all.
Thank you. / Charlie
I could make a gun case that nobody could remove, and you certainly wouldn't peal the lid off.
After my ex-wife falsely accused me of dv the police confiscated my beloved rifle. I told them where the keys were. 6 months later police contacted me offering my rifle and certificates back to late my confidence in the legal system was lost. During that time i had already left the uk been living away for 3 years. Very disappointed with the police conduct and incopetence. I have never shown the videos of my savage ukrainian ex wife abusing me a number of times. I haven't reported her for child kidnapping my kids to another country. Dispite having a clean record all my life im disgusted the way the police behave these days they bring great shame on themselves while destroying the lives of young children and families I believe my marriage would have survived if the police had not gotten involved. Two children would not have lost their father. Wondering if to return to the uk. Events reported in this video show the imoral conduct of governmnet police and the broken system. Always use a top barrister to defend. 'The road to hell is paved with good intentions' that statment has never been more true when decribing the actions of police conduct. What has become of the country my grandads fought for in wwii? What distruction and damage are police doing to families children and society? Why are the police failing to control real criminals? Why is crime out of control in the uk now? Why have the police become incompetent not fit for purpose?
Does this new insurance cover also cover AWC in Scotland? The insurance schedule only says FAC and SGC, but surely the exact same risk applies to members in Scotland with AWC?
Scotland? did you say "cover" "anything" in..... Scotland??? Right now your at risk of being arrested for hate crimes for logging in to your face book account! thanks to the racist the majority of you voted in. poor choice, worst case outcome, yet yousef can stand in parliament and openly spout pure racism that there are to many whites in positions of power!
The Police committed a theft from Phil, if it was me I'd be seeking a private criminal prosecution of those officers, we cannot ever yield to those criminals with warrant cards.
any idea, whats happening with crossbows? and broadheads?
The only guns i am affraid of are the ones in police hands .
Nice to see you back
Here this so many times and the spouse walks free.
That Scout must be an Impact killer....This type of air rifles are not my cup of tea but it looks very well made.
I handled one the other week, they are very heavy.. agreed, they are not my cup of tea either..
@@robertmitchell9415 I own mostly HW springers and one PCP. So boring to shoot PCP.
People shouldn’t be allowed to make unfounded accusations like this. Just because they have a grievance with you and the police should understand this instead of going in mob handed against what they once thought was a law abiding gun owner.
Did they explain why the safe had to be broken into? I missed it if they did. It would have been preferable to all concerned if the FAC holder had just used the key! I doubt he refused. I note the comment below about Kier Starmer having the opinion that no firearms should be in private possession. Add that to the fact that the FAC was initially introduced because the government of the day was worried about the working class rising up like the Bolsheviks, I predict that Labour will try to seize all sporting guns except shotguns citing public safety but actually because they foresee a civil war with Islamists on the horizon and they don't want law abiding citizens being able to defend themselves. I fear there are very dark times ahead for sporting shooting and for our society in general.
if it gets that bad the army barracks will be raided. the communist states had stricter gun laws than us. Didn't stop the people rising up and starting civil wars in yugoslavia and the former soviet states.
What a state LAW is. It means no one but criminal win !
It is so sad to see how far the UK has fallen, I don't even know if it is possible anymore for the UK to be saved from the insanity you have going on across the pond. Granted we have the same insanity going on over here in the US, it is nowhere even close to how bad it is in the UK, and in many states here more people are fighting against this insane direction so many in the West seem to be enamored by.
The poor guy should sue his wife in a civil case. Harassment, wrongful imprisonment, mental anguish all add up.
Class action lawsuit, take the police to court. We are more, we are stronger than the tyrannical few.
Meanwhile guns are smuggled in their droves, they don't check containers of stolen vehicles being exported or don't check those coming in.
BASC wont help you if your license is refused or withdrawn. They used to but then changed the policy and let us down.
State of the nation…….grim
In the past few years i have lost all Faith and respect for the Police so much so that they came to my home as i had witnessed a Major incident. They knocked my Door and i asked them to leave unless they are here to Arrest me, They said they needed a Statement , I said NO I’m not giving one, They were shocked that i wouldn’t help. As a Witness… I told them if they apologise and admitted wrongdoing to members of the public during Lockdown and Clear everyone arrested for simply going outside and do it Live on the BBC 6 o’clock News they would have my full assistance…. F**K em
I am in welly. Ffs didn’t know anything about this. I thought Avon and Somerset were ok. Phil if you see this say hello we’ll grab a beer
Thanks for this, Cameron. Happily, it wasn't Avon & Somerset Firearms Licensing who took the action. It was the ordinary force - and they were acting at the request of the Met. Firearms Licensing were helpful trying to get Phil's guns back. / Charlie
Is the insurance limited to England or does it cover the entire UK.
Lesson from this, don't marry someone who's insane. You will end up suing them for costs of false allegations, and that money comes from alimony. 😂
Surley we should do a vote to give us our guns back
Here in Germany if you apply for a FAC for sport you have to have been a member of a shooting club for at least one year. You most also take a written test on the weapons law. You must also provide a criminal record certificate, to prove that you don't have one. Then and only then do the the police carry out a backgroud check. If you want to reload it's even more complicated. They go back to your 16 th birthday, and if you have any sort of record, you will be denied the certificate.
Are you a subject or citizen? Because citizens are free to own arms….
Wait a minute what I thought you were only allowed airguns? Shotgun if you have a huge area of land and Licence. How did he have real Rifles
Long-barrelled single-shot firearms of any calibre, and semi-automatic pistols of .22 rimfire calibres, are permitted with FAC. Long-barrelled revolvers and long-barrelled pistols are permitted. The barrel must be at least 30 cm (12 in) long, and the firearm at least 60 cm (24 in) long, which can be achieved by having a permanently attached extension to the muzzle and grip of the firearm. Those that do not meet these criteria are banned under UK law with the exception of muzzle-loading pistols including muzzle-loading revolvers which are permitted as long a they meet the criteria set forth in the regulations. Shotguns are legal with a shotgun certificate as long as they can't hold more than three shotgun shells - including the one in the chamber if it's a pump-action or semi-automatic shotgun. There is no such restriction for rifles. However shotguns with a detachable magazine or larger fixed magazine are still permitted with Section 1 FAC. Rifles are permitted as defined under UK law as a rifled firearm with a barrel longer than 30 cm (12 in) and a total length must be longer than 60 cm (24 in). Rifles are permitted in any calibre size as long as it doesn’t meet the definition of self-loading (semi-automatic) or pump-action. Semi-automatic or pump-action rifles are only permitted at .22 rimfire calibre.
Did the police have a warrant?
D&C HQ in the opening 5 seconds.....apt. I remember the 'training input' from their licensing department when I was training to be plod. They were utterly, utterly clueless and seemed obsessed with black powder for some reason.
Great episode!
I think its best not to let the public know , that a persons guns can be taken away by a person claim that the liecense holder has treathen them in any way or form. I know that my nusciance neihbour would do that to me ,( if he knew i would get my guns taken off me ) Just be careful what you say to people , even in jest ☹️
Very wise.
What happened to innocent until proven guilty 🔥
Not really the police force's fault. They have to take the alleged threat seriously. But the police should have the ability to store the firearms safely at no cost to the owner until returned. The license cost should also get refunded in line with the time lost.
All time favourite was my carea 707
I faced this problem with police Scotland falsely charged by there constable that would not listen to my complaint refused to charge the person that charged me with a knife offence .the police removed my guns sent a false report to Glasgow city council . They called me and suspended my taxi licence indefinitely ignoring that I'm innocent until found guilty which they ignored the law sent the police report I was shocked to read I was in a shop threatening 2 proprietors witness by 2 civilians and 2 police officers I lodged a complaint with the police they made a mistake no apology but to my shock the police contacted the council and demand my suspension which they informed again .I'm supposed to have the right to appeal within 28days but the council failed to follow there rules it took my lawyer to threatening them to go to court , it took nearly 6 months to get a hearing which I was given my licence back . But I should say that the police firearms department where outstanding with there handling of my case .quick note finally after nearly 2 years going to court the judge threw the case out . Dealing with police Scotland complaints department against there officers is a joke . Police investigating police and there final report from there chief constable was embarrassing I don't think she could read with mistakes in her report . This injustice cost me over £10000 . With no apology or compensation . WE NEED TO TAKE THE INVESTIGATING POWERS FROM POLICE SCOTLAND INVESTIGATING THEM SELFS
Approximately 12k it cost me to get my guns back, I appreciate a lot of people haven’t got that money, I used most of my savings but to prove them wrong it was worth it. The fact anyone can make up any old shit about you and the police act on it needs to be stopped
Risk assessment- 500 entered this weekend!!!
women like this should serve long prison sentences.
Happened to me they "lodged" my guns for 12 months
Disgusting behaviour. The attitudes to gun owners in the UK is pretty damn poor
Great video, sad about the police act, thanks and greetings from nz,, Tony.
Thanks, Tony. It's definitely an exception not a rule but it's one to highlight. / Charlie
What a joke decent people hammered as per while real criminals just pay there 3 grand and go full auto
To add insult to injury I hear that Labour have a plan to fund mental health services by fleecing shooters via firearms licence fees ( yet another tax on a small group) Has anyone else heard anything similar?
So, I’m presuming from this that he didn’t threaten his wife? There is no mention made of the outcome in the video. Sorry if I missed it but until that has been resolved and disclosed how can we take a view on how unjust this story may or may not be!!?
I wonder will his ex wife be charged with making false accusations?
Phil was released without charge and is the process of getting his guns back, Charlie has done a longer version which goes into all the issues. kzhead.info/sun/Y5ano72rfZODi5s/bejne.html
@@fieldsportstv Thanks for clarifying 👍
@@fieldsportstv thanks 👍
You don't think it's unjust that the cops can come into your home and take your property,no matter what it is just because someone accused you of something?What's to stop an ex from doing that because they are pissed or a pissed off in law or neighbor?With all the crap you have to go through to get a legal firearm Ill bet it's like having a concealed carry permit in the US.The people who go through all the bulls**t to get one are less likely to commit a crime than a police officer is.There should have to be proof of a crime before the storm troopers can march into your home and confiscate your legally owned property.Anything else is unjust.
The only person who should have to pay is the lady who lied
Yes again proving what I have always said. The police should not be in charge of firearms licensing. It's a conflict of interest
I would think so. Its a tad obvious since they are more then likely to be against any sort of power imbalance between them and the public. Because we dont have a lot of the protections that say the US contitution provides and even then Americans have issues. That and lawyering is expensive. Give the licensing to a Different dedicated department and seperate it clean from the police. They get NO say. and on the plus side they cannot be blamed for any later transgresssions.
Big question how many unarmed have the plod killed or wounded
I hope the police should pay for his lawyer.
Same old shit from the old bill. Easy targets, been there, oppressive phone call and threats. Then sudden back step after I said we will go to court and I don’t take threats. Bloody joke.
Why did the Police just not ask the owner for the Keys to his cabinet and then keep them in storage until they'd checked things out? The police caused criminal damage here, presumably with no warrant. The damage done was completely unnecessary.
The public don’t recognise the vast majority of people have safety only from bejng hidden within the herd of the populace. Anyone who stands out and thus has a “Police Encounter” is at risk of one thing and one this only and that is “Harm”.