What Happens When a Submarine Implodes
2023 ж. 29 Мау.
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A submarine implosion sounds terrifying, but what does actually happen during a submarine implosion? This is #NotWhatYouThink #NWYT #longs
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What do you think is the worst possible way to die?
I'll go first: Being stuck in a place where I can't move around, knowing very well I will suffer over the next 2-3 days until I die from dehydration. Or look up the story of the guy who died in the the Nutty Putty caves.
For me it's drowning, you want to breathe but all you can inhale is just water, the pain from it and the possibly slow death
dying
That is pretty horrible
@@NotWhatYouThink nutt putt my bal-
When I was in boot camp, one of our instructors was asked, because of the benefits, why didn't he join the submarine service. His answer: "There is a natural law that what goes up, must come down: there is no law that says that what goes down has to come back up."
Yep, Gravity is a b*tch
Wise man
I Guess he made a wise choice
There is wisdom. Right there.
Except for bungee jumping I guess.
As Scott Manley put it : You go from biology to physics in milliseconds.
This quote is so brilliant.
ACTUALLY BIOLOGY IS ALREADY PHYSICS AND PHYSICS IS TECHNICALLY POOP
Scott Manley is so brilliant.
Biology is already a field within physics as are all natural sciences.
sometimes that’s how I feel if I eat too much ..
No-one might have experienced the implosion itself, but the anticipation of knowing that something is about to go very, _very_ wrong has to be terrifying until that happens.
A friend commented on a near-death experience he had, that once he realized it was out of his control, he got very calm and accepting of it. While we have a very morbid sense of humor underway, the brain has a bunch of mechanisms for handling that fact and preparing us to die, so I don't think it's as terrifying a prospect as you think.
@@shadowmancy9183I've experienced that. Knowing you've no control is strangely comforting, you enter a state of tranquility, accept what's coming and wait. Its the most calm I've ever been. But looking back it's really scary
@@shadowmancy9183 You think they believed they were that near death that they got very calm, when they were being told differently by the man in charge?
@@shadowmancy9183 I got in a motorcycle accident one time. I really wasn't afraid and I don't mean to sound like a tough guy bc i am not. I got the whole time slowing down effect and I remember calmly thinking something like "there's no way this is happening to me. Am I about to be a statistic? Shit I'm..." then nothing. Felt really weird almost like a waking dream. Next thing I know I'm waking up to a woman screaming bloody murder while I'm face down in the street, haha. That's when the panic kicked in and I pushed myself up and hobbled to the shoulder. I chalked it up to being exhausted and my mind playing tricks on me but I always think about how strangely calm and surreal that second or two was before the accident. Was the strangest feeling.
that happened to me. Realising I might drown was terrifying, accepting that it was inevitable was such a relief and very calm.
I always heard the term "Instantaneous Death" and people have said "They wouldn't have felt a thing" but I never fully believed that. Hearing the breakdown of the brain signal latency in comparison to the timing of the event finally made me realize it's biologically possible to not perceive death. I find that weirdly comforting to finally know that.
Nope, they actually suffered a far worse fate, their remains were recovered indicating that they had time to process every single bit of pain before dying. This video is so amateurish, not something that i would expect from NWYT. It failed to mention why submarines dont have windows in the very first place...
Submersibles do have portholes, submarines don't need them. Also, the average depth for submarines is 2-3k feet while the Titanic sits at over 12k feet down. The Navy heard the implosion.
Takes 20 seconds for the signal to reach it took less then 1millisecound for the implosion
@@hahahahhshahsh817 You don't even know in what condition their remains were in. Could be mush for all you know.. and that still doesn't prove your theory.
“I'm not afraid of death; I just don't want to be there when it happens.” -- Woody Allen
Crazy to think that a submarine that actually has been involved in such a incident got repaired and had the chance to go to war as well.
what? the sail fish had no implosion happening, no?
They hadn't hit the full crush depth... Had they been operating farther offshore? Full USS Thresher.
The Squalus was not involved in an implosion incident. There was a malfunction that caused flooding. I doubt it would be reasonable to recover and repair an imploded submarine.
Yeah
And it wasn't the only one. British HMS Thetis had the same happened to her. Sadly, with much worse outcome.
My dad was a cold war era submarine captain and his greatest fear was to sink to implosion depth.
Don’t let this distract you from the truth of what’s happening oceangate is a play on all the other “gates” it happened just in time for hunter biden to get a misdemeanor in court a slap in the face to all Americans and they passed the ability to sell lab meat to people in stores
Why it'd be a very quick way to go.
@@ibelieveitcauseiseentit9630if you know you're sinking to crush depth, you'd know your fate is sealed and that at any moment you're about to die. You know your family would never get to have the closure of burying your body. You'd hear the sub creak and groan as you neared your final resting place. Yes, the implosion would be instant but everything leading up to it would be horrifyingly slow and you'd be painfully aware of your fate.
Im with your dad. It must have been terrifying for him
Defintitetly much worse ways to go. I mean drowning for one, an implosion is literally just instant vaporization you're dead before you're paste can even process anything.
The rescue of the Squalus crew was incredible.
Pre-WWII even
Agreed, though I didn't understand why the video says that after the submarine was towed to port 25 bodies were recovered?? Before it said that everybody was rescued.
@@larryphotography Everyone who survived the flooding of the engine rooms, torpedo room, crew quarters.
@@aemilia5799 thank you for the clarification!
Indeed it was! Its breathtaking to think they actually managed to pull it off considering they were 6 times the depth of the deepest successful rescue. Not to mention using experimental equipment. Cool heads prevailed it seems.
This is exactly why I had to shake my head any time I heard someone ask why the bodies can't be recovered, or even suggest that we should try to do so. When a submarine implodes, it is _catastrophic._ Before the passengers even realized anything had happened, they were a smear between two sheets of metal. It is nearly instantaneous. Honestly, that is the best end anyone could have hoped for, if an end was guaranteed. Of course we would rather have been able to save them, but dying so quickly that you don't feel pain is the most we could ever hope for in that situation.
Yeah, when they were searching for the submarine I was imagining being trapped thpusands of meters below the sea, absolutely thirsty, covered in piss and shit while slowly being suffocated... horrible, way better to die of an implosion
@@lucasporto9285very few submarines can go below 1,000 metres. These specialist submersibles, such as those diving down to the tiresome Titanic are the type shown in this poorly researched film. At 1,000 metres- well beyond most Naval subs- the pressure is 100 atmospheres and that will indeed crush you but it's nothing like as much as at the sea bed and as such the idea of a submarine pressure vessel instantaneously failing is ridiculous.
I mean I don't think they or their families were thinking that was the best they could hoped for. Coming back alive and unscathed I would have to imagine would be the best they could have hoped for. I've explained it like this to people. They experienced somewhere around 5000psi. We can recreate that here on land with an industrial pressure washer. The one at my work is 4400psi. Now if you took that to a human body it would just blow the flesh right off the bone. Here's the major difference. It has a flow rate of about 4.5 gallons per minute. They experienced a flow rate probably well into or perhaps well past trillions of gallons per minute coming from all directions at once. It would be instant pulverization.
It is actually oddly comforting to know that if someone is in such a situation, they might have to deal with the fear of what is going to happen but when it does then their consciousness essentially just 'ceases'.
Well, their souls get disembodied, what they experience at that point is a theological question .
@@johndododoe1411 Quite so, aye.
I feel like these are bot posts. In every single video relating to the Titan incident, 100 people always use the phrase "oddly comforting".
@@Connection-LostRight. Fluffy blankets are oddly comforting, not implosions lmao
@@johndododoe1411 It's not a theological question until there's is evidence to even add that option into consideration. All current evidence points towards consciousness being an emergent property of the brain. Which is why you can physically modify it and have personality change, our character entirely relies on physical structures. Damage your frontal lobe and you will be a less empathetic, irrational douche. So anyway. before you can even suggest there is such a thing as a soul you have to increase it's probability from 0.0% to something positive. Demonstrate the possibility and then you can suggest death is anything other than just what life was like before you were alive. Do you remember what it was like before you existed? No? If we follow the evidence that is what being dead "feels" like. Theological question my ass..
You could literally not pay me enough to go dive to any real depth on a submarine. I hate tight spaces and the thought of being locked inside while at extreme depths is absolutely terrifying to me.
Definitely not a pursuit for claustrophobic people.
Not all submarines are locked . Some have exits and options to use them . Making safe exits at Titan depths would be very difficult and might require a smaller sub to leave in .
Its literally ,so far, safest mode of transport due to engineering redundancy systems and regulation. Unless case of gross negligence like in case of Argentinian sub or imbeciles designing & no regulation like in case of Titan…
You definitely are not a Bubble Head
Same, absolute nightmare fuel.
The scary thing is that, we as humans can only survive depths of about 300m WITH additional gear (namely dive suits, but other things help). Meanwhile, the ocean floor is, on average, about 4000m deep, thirteen times deeper, and Challenger Deep is nearly 10000m deep. It's absolutely terrifying and amazing at the same time to think how vast and deep the oceans are, and how much of it is off limits to us due to our biology
cause we picked the wrong faction
@AnyLongSkinsNah, we are the only species that has landed on the moon, lived in space, and have returned from space.
We chose the right faction.
if we were not limited to our biology, we'd have already explored most of our oceans than we ever first set our foot on the moon
Tell that to James Cameron
Thank you for explaining this so clearly and without "clickbait". I suppose the family and friends of the victims can take some solace here.
this is the definition of click bait. Video didn't mention anything at all about what happens when a submarine implodes other than saying that one argentina marine accident was theorized to have imploded in 0.04 seconds. This video mostly talked about other submarine accidents where they didn't implode lol. CLICK BAIT
@@jnh8381not only that, it is also spreading the myth that during the implosion the air would heat to a point that it would ignite stuff in the air, when that didn't happen. The implosion isn't an adiabatic compression, there's freezing water surrounding everything. Also, bodies don't desintegrate or something like that. What happens to the body exposed to that pressure: Chest is crushed, and the pockets of air on the head are crushed as well (sinus and inner ears), but everything else would be pretty much intact (well... Internally, not so much, abdominal cavity, chest, and the inside of the skull would be a mess, but the body would still be in a better shape to be buried than most car accident victims). People need to keep in mind that although the pressure at that depth is monstruous, it is still not enough to break bones (I mean to affect a solid piece of bone, bones surrounding pockets of air will be broken), or even to compress soft tissue.
@@laerson123i'm interested in this comment purely because surely the dramatic implosion slamming shattered pieces of a carbon fibre hull into a person at ridiculous speeds should be the focal point for determining if bodies would be mangled enough to recover
Stupid people piss me off and the thing is at least a little over half of the human population still has a cro-magnon thought process
I have spent about 4 years of my life underwater on two fast attack submarines. We always kept in mind that if the number of dives did not equal the number of surfaces then we were screwed. One of the submarines I was on, USS Sunfish SSN 649, actually made a huge milestone of 1000 dives and surfacing's in 1996. The "keel" of the Sunfish was laid down 3 months after I was born in 1964. Quite a remarkable career for a sub.
Hello from another submariner. I was only serving on the sub for 1 year. Drafted. It was a very small sub. About 40 crew. I did try an unscheduled deep dive but only to about 85 meters to the sea floor. I am not a ghost so we got up again.
Ok tell me I'm wrong but shouldn't a sub be like a plane and tested for metal fatigue after a certain amount of pressure / depressurize cycles.
And this is why I prefer airplanes. The number of landings *always* equals the number of takeoffs.
@@JoeBurks_1 Take-offs are optional, landings are mandatory
@@philipmcdonagh1094military subs do have bay and sea trials, they're consistently tested
I remember reading an article in National Geographic about a team of ocean explorers that were trying to retrieve gold from the wreckage of a Japanese submarine lost in the Atlantic ocean. There was a picture of a running shoe they had found in the wreckage. It was from someone in the crew. The shoe was torn apart and burned. The article explained that the reason why the shoe was burned was the "Diesel" effect when the submarine imploded, which caused everything inside to incinerate in a tiny fraction of a second.
Wow, bizarrely amazing!😮
I highly doubt the Diesel effect described in this video, and wonder if it has been confirmed in tests. It seems that the correct air to fuel ratio wouldn't be achieved even though the compression could be achieved. And also, the fuel in a piston still takes time to ignite and typically would need a glow plug or other source of ignition. Seems unlikely but what do I know.
@@tomgreene7942 Might want to research "diesel" (as opposed to gasoline) engines and how they ignite. Also, the pressure inside a diesel cylinder is between 300 to 500 psi. The pressure at the instant of implosion on the Titan would have been 10X to 20X greater than the inside of a diesel cylinder. So, getting the air to fuel ratio "just right" would probably not be as much of a consideration for igniting any small amount of hydrocarbon vapor in the air. It's just physics and chemistry at that point.
@@druefreeman439 As the old saying goes: Everything is flammable if you try hard enough.
@@tomgreene7942 you can burn cotton wool inside a syringe if you compress it fast enough the energy of the moving air particles is condensed into a smaller volume increasing its temperature the reason it doesnt happen if you compress it too slowly is that the temperature increase creates a high temperature gradient to the air outside the syringe causing the thermal loss to accelerate. so the compression and heating has to happen faster than the bleeding out of heat
The Titan imploded instantly without any warning. The catastrophic implosion of the Titan meant all five people died without knowing it. Their death was painless. I feel sorry for the youngest victim who did not want to be part of this expedition.
billionaires arent stupid risking their lives on anything
People need to stop spreading the lie that the kid didn’t want to go. The mom was originally supposed to go but she gave up her spot for her son because of his enthusiasm. He even brought a Rubik’s Cube in hopes to set a world record.
@@07foxmulder read somewhere (dont remeber where) that the kid hesitated a lot before entering the sub
there WAS warning, probably a few minutes, or even 30 seconds worth of Stockton "Rich Idiot" Rush, getting some kind of a warning bell, and then mentioning to the team that "Uh, we've got a hull warning, we have to ascend ASAP!" So there was some time of unimaginable dread as the Titan headed back to the surface, then Boom, lights out.
@@LoliLoveJuice I gather that statement may not be totally accurate given the evidence surrounding that company.
I had a Lieutenant, who’s uncle was one of the four divers to receive the metal of honor for the rescue of the Squalus crew. He actually has his uncle’s metal in a frame and brought it into work one day and showed to us.
What was his name?
As a submariner I can tell you when the ship submerges you can hear the pressure affecting the boat. Audible sounds in sonar, we call them hull pops as the stress and pressure equalizes. Your first dive it’s very nerve racking. But after lots of training and experience you become jaded to it and laugh when the new guys hear it for the first time.
Many people have made a huge deal about the sounds in a disgustingly sensational way. (See! They knew it was about to blow! They were panicky, it was a long and terrible death!) The voices of experienced submariners like you are drowned out, pun intended, because people are hearing what they want to hear and then confirmation bias takes over. I'm curious if you know anything about external mikes that, according to some, were intended to warn passengers of an impending implosion so they could surface to a safe depth. I hear my SCUBA instructor laughing in the back of my mind as I roll my eyes, but that means I need to learn more to avoid falling into the Trap of Lazy Thinking. Any thoughts about it? Thanks...
unless you're in a carbon fiber sub that doesn't handle this compression and decompression all that well....
I doubt you'd hear creaking from carbon fiber.
@zwenkwiel816 like any sub, it handles it well until it doesn't, they had 20+ successful dives prior
@@RockandRollWomanwell just remember 99.9% of the people talking about the titan knew exactly 0 about submersibles before that story hit the news... then suddenly everyone was an expert with an opinion.
That final visual in the final seconds of the vid are haunting. Props to whoever made that.
And those visuals still happened orders of magnitude slower than it did in real life.
thanks for the detailed explanation. this was far more detailed than anything else ive seen yet. love your videos, keep up the good work bud!
thank you very much for making this video! it was very informative, as well as entertaining.. seeing that old footage of the Navy recovering the sub leaves me in awe of what all has to go into an operation like that..
40 Milliseconds is crazy. The moment light hits the retina, to the signal reaching your brain, takes about 70 milliseconds or longer. Meaning their brain wouldn't even have had the time to receive the visual stimulation of the instant before their death, let alone the actual instant of the implosion.
But with regards to the titanic submarine that’s different. The entire submarine was compressed to the size of a baseball in a span of milliseconds, they were beyond obliterated before they knew it.
@@Nonamelol. It would have creaked and leaked before it imploded.
@@asparagusstaging430 It was made out of carbon fiber. CF doesn't creak or leak, it catastrophically shatters into a billion pieces.
@@asparagusstaging430 False. Once carbon fiber fails it shatters immediately. Why? Because carbon fiber is incredibly stiff and doesn't compress like say titanium and steel alloys. Those materials creak when compressed. Carbon fiber? Shatters without warning.
@@asparagusstaging430 it wouldn't have leaked, any penetration of the hull no matter how small would have instantly obliterated the sub but there was probably a crackling noise some seconds before the implosion that alerted the crew that they were in trouble
Know what’s scarier? Being in a submersible steered by a Logitech controller
That's when you know it was made poorly and it was like a diy project
@@blaizegottman4139 the controller says nothing about that, u‘d be surprised how many vehicles are controlled by gaming controllers
A *wireless* controller
@@Angelthewolf I agree with you, but there was mention of parts being "purchased from home depot". I'd just be a little weary considering they wanted a quarter million dollars.
when i was in university doing my master's degree, the department got a donated laser that was used for eye surgery. The controller came from a NES
One of the best videos around the titan tragedy. Your examples explain very well what happens in these circumstances. Thank you.
Fantastic history lesson. The collection of and presentation of the video footage was very impressive. Thank you.
When I enlisted in the Navy in the mid 80’s, it was as an STS (sonar technician submarine). Got to sub school and during the damage control simulation I found out that I was claustrophobic. Had no idea that I was and there weren’t any signs during testing, etc. Went back to San Diego for surface sonar and continued on.
So you pretended to get out of sub duty. I had a roomate who was in the navy with a guy who started pretending to dribble a basketball everywhere he went. And if he couldn't dribble it he would stand there like it was tucked under his arm. He got called in to talk to some higher up and the guy told him that he didn't think the navybwas for him and gave him his discharge papers. The guy thanked him and took his "ball" back to clean out his locker area and they noticed he put his "ball" on the locker shelf and started to walk out normally without it. Someone thinking they were funny said "hey you forgot your ball". He said "no I didn't. The games over".
@@bradsanders407 if this reply is directed at me then I am lost as a MF. IF it is then I didn’t convey in my text anywhere about Malingering, Skating or shirking my duty. When I raised my right hand the final time in MEPS, it was as an STS and as an E3 due to college. After inprocessing at sub school I fully believed I would be a submariner. They figured out at the same I figured it out, that I was very claustrophobic. Only thing that comes to mind that would have given me PTSD about tight windowless spaces was as a kid, myself and a buddy had dug a huge tunnel and large living spaces underground. It was right up to our silage pit and as soon as one of huge Steiger tractors came near it, it collapsed. My stepdad and a bunch of the immigrant laborers feverishly dug us out. I didn’t know that I would have psych problems 15 years later. Also, if I didn’t want to be in the military, would I switch branches 30 seconds after discharge from the Navy. A civilian for 30 seconds plus the amount of time it takes to perform the oath of enlistment. No matter how I read my text, I can’t find where I said I was really getting out of anything…even after sub school debacle, they had to rewrite my contract from STS to STG. That was downtime and was waiting for a BEEP class number in San Diego to get out of purgatory.
Well researched and respectfully presented. I served in the Special Forces in direct action, in many deployments. Not much bothers me, I've been in all manner of aircraft, in turbulence, even under fire. Its exhilarating at times, but you take it as it comes. part of our training was techniques in relaxing, so you can sleep / rest under all kinds of stressful conditions. However I was once inserted by submarine. Most Unnatural 18 hours of my life, strange unending noises and aromas. Hat's off to the brave men and women who serve in the ocean depths for weeks and months at a time.
i have heard some people say that there are people spending almost a year in a sub under water and it kinda breaks my heart
@@merasoul6520 Nuclear submarines are capable of going a year at sea, but in peace time they don't. The US navy deploys attack subs on 2 month patrols. They can stay submerged for up to 4 months, but again they don't. They regularly surface for the crew to communicate with loved ones, refresh the air, resupply, and come in to rotate crews. Diesel subs run on electric batteries, and have to surface every few days to run the diesel engines to recharge the batteries. 😊😊👍👍
This is exactly the video i needed to satisfy my curiousity. I was wondering about this ever since the recent submersible implosion news happened.
hey, i loved that you show both metric and imperial units on the video. that REALLY helps a lot to appreciate the video without the mental gymnastics to convert or even worse, having to pause the video to check the conversion somewhere
When Squalus accidentally sank , the submarine that found her which subsequently launched a huge naval rescue operation was the Sculpin. And then , Squalus was salvaged , repaired , and renamed the Sailfish. As the Sailfish , she had a very colorful career and made 12 patrols in the entire world war II Pacific theater. On her 10th patrol , she torpedoed and sank the 20,000 ton Japanese aircraft carrier Chuyo , the first enemy aircraft carrier sank by an American submarine and the only major Japanese warship sank by American naval action. However , in a very sad and ironic twist , the Chuyo was carrying 21 American prisoners of war and they were from the submarine Sculpin. Of the 21 , only 1 survived the sinking of the Chuyo.
*"round 2, begin!"* Ayo what was that ?
In the part where you mentioned Chuyo, she was the only Japanese warship sunk by enemy(American) action in 1943, not the entire war
>and the only major Japanese warship sank by American naval action What are you smoking? We sank multiple Japanese carriers and pretty much every single one of their battleships
@@rebeccavdh4803 ok, then , name me a Japanese battleship/carrier/heavy cruiser (that means a major Japanese vessel) that was sunk by US surface vessel ? ... true , US forces did sink many major Japanese ships , but almost all of them were sunk by American AIR POWER
@@rebeccavdh4803 We sank most of the Japanese fleet through bombs and torpedoes of the naval carriers, not ship on ship engagements. So his statement is correct. If we move forward to 1944 and 1945, we have more ship on ship interactions where we did sink several Japanese vessels
I appreciate the opportunity to understand what happens in an imploding submarine. Sad, but also reassuring that it’s instantaneous. I found the narration very sad and scary as opposed to the usual upbeat and cheery voice. It is for a tragic video but not very usual. Makes the video all the more sad.
I sould say a sub would implode that way only if it is constructed properly. Unfortunately, that was not the case with Oceangate Titan sub which, because of its carbon fiber shell, got its alloy pressure chamber slowly crushed within its shell. An acousticly recorded 20min agony that must have been unbarable :(
What part of an imploding submarime screams "happy" to you?
There's a video showing a Coke can inside of a pressure chamber and they keep cranking the dial-up and at some point the popcan literally goes from a popped in to literally confetti falling to the bottom of the tank in a Split Second The only thing that was left were the two ends of the Popcan which were twisted and bent but still recognizable
@@SR-fw8og Carbon fiber doesn't crush, it delaminates and shatters. The pressure hull of the Titan was fully carbon fiber, not an alloy. The only metal used in the hull was titanium endcaps. The hull of the Titan would have failed almost instantly. That's the whole reason steel and titanium is typically used on subs, they're a uniform material that actually yields and returns to form, unlike carbon fiber that doesn't deform, it weakens over time and breaks at a point that is difficult to calculate because its not a uniform material.
@@SR-fw8ogwym 20 minutes?
Informative video, thanks for posting. 👍
Wonderful job, Sir! Very well explained. Thank you very much.
Thanks for this video. As a former US Navy Submariner, I've had to explain this multiple times in the last week. Now I have a resource to point those questions to that is correct and easy to understand.
except, that many facts were incorrect. it's not good source where to point, in regards of technical information. it will not behave like piston engine, no combustion occur, also no 2000-5000 degree hot air. it will behave differently.
@@warrax111 When you go from regular ambient pressure to 500+ PSI of pressure the air most definitely will heat up. Basic physics, when air is hyper compressed very quickly it does in fact get hot.
@@cavalieroutdoors6036 But it's not piston engine. It's water. It will behave differently.
Dude, I remember when you were starting your journey! Inspiration to many! Living the dream of many. Hard work pays off! 🎉
Thank you for that explanation and history of sub accidents.
a subs maximum operating depth and crush depth are not the same thing, you dont want to be operating at the crush depth, generally you have a safety factor built in, unless your ocean gate
I would argue there was a safety factor, it's just less than 1.
maybe that was the rules that the submarine owner says it will broking when working....
Thanks Captain obvious
@@iJustB58these sort of simple trivia tends to be something pass over people's heads
@@Propulus Ideally you design the sub to operate ~30% of the target operational depth.
The ARA San Juan was riddled with problems, the crew complained and many refused to board the ship, they knew exactly what was going on
Rip crew of Ara San Juan... 😔
true, neglience from the macrist goverment killed the entire crew, MM was never judge for the murders
@@NJ-F Callate nabo. En servicio desde 2011 con los K
@@NJ-Fand the last mid of life maintenance was during the previous government and the sailors were already complaining about the faulty batteries for the electric propulsion system, know this, every political party in corrupt in Argentina, the ones you like and the ones you don't...
@@NJ-FUn zurdo echandole la culpa a Macri jajajajajaja... Sabías que la revisión fue hecha en tiempos de gobierno K, no? Te paso el link para desburrarte un poco, salame
Thank you for the well produced and informative short documentary. Not so sure that the last thoughts of the Titan were “joyful and exhilarating”. I would liked to have heard the conversation between the Titan and others before communications was lost.
Denmark had a few small uboats operating until 2004. A retired uboat captain was interviewed on the radio to explain what had happened to Titan. The interviewer at some point asked what it was like to dive kilometers down in the ocean. He laughed and said how should i know. No Danish navy uboat ever went deeper than 100 meter, even though they supposedly could reach 250 meter. Such depths was reserved for active war situation, and not during safety concerns in times of peace.
Yeah, it surprises most people that military subs spend all their life (if they're lucky) in the top 5% of the ocean as they really only need to dive deep enough to hide from ships and planes, and occasionally other subs. As soon as that huge black hull can't be spotted from a plane it is considered deep enough, usually between 200 to 400 metres, compare that to the Titanic which has a depth of 3,800 metres, or the Marianas Trench which has a depth of almost 11,000 metres...
He was an idiot to discuss specific depths. In fact, diving depths of submarines remain classified, even after you discharge from the Navy.
@@konservation6205 The uboats was scrapped 18 years before. Nothing he said was not already written on wikepedia. The peacetime safety maximum depth is even listed on the homepage for the Danish defense.
The ARA San Juan was such a sad event. We lost many people, including our first female submariner ever. The sub was old, they supposedly extended its life but clearly they didn't do a very good job. Among the last messages there were reports of issues with the batteries that power the electrical engines. I visited the sub about a year before it sank, it looked... old. I remember one computer on aboard still had a slot for using cassette tapes as data storage like computers did in the early 80s. I also remember there were a few religious images on board. I remember seeing a tiny Bible laying around. I hope it brought them a tiny bit of comfort during the panic of those final moments
Condolences from the UK, RIP to those brave submariners. Tragic way to go, but we should take comfort in knowing it was very fast and probably painless.
They probably didn't have time to panic and then they were gone. Death is something that we all have to face and there's a lot to be said about a quick and painless death. I've been in a situation where I saw my death coming. I was 10-11 years old and had mistakenly put the wrong harness/halter on a horse so trying to rectify my mistake I tied a rope around my waist and put a slipknot on the other side and caught the horse in question. I had just removed the harness when our stallion decided the horse in question, a 3-5 month old colt, was too close to the mares and decided to run him off. I had about 10-15 feet of rope between the colt and I and was drug around like a rag-doll. I remember one of the mares kicking at me and her hoof looking like a dinner plate coming at my head. I was able to stand up and remove a knot before he started running again and drug me into a fence post with it hitting me just below the chin, I was going towards the post so I don't know how it didn't break my neck. After that I remember looking to off to my right and seeing where we had started building a log barn. Just the very beginning and dad had cut the pines to lots of short 3-4 inch limbs stubs on the logs and several sticks, branches, etc. I looked over there and knew that the colt was going to drag me through there and that I wouldn't survive. The colt was rearing up and his front legs were slashing at the air and then he calmed down the slipknot I had over his neck grew and slid over up his neck over his ears and floated through the air and dropped on me. The moment the rope hit my back the colt ran directly across the area that I had known he would. Since I've never questioned the existence of God or angels. I think those people probably had a similar experience, peace before going.
@@Parents_of_Twins You know your depth in a Submarine, the second they lost control of the sub and began approaching crush depth there would have been panic, let alone the final moments of them just waiting to be decimated.
@47372 That's correct, but they were not decimated. Nobody survived.
@@briandavenport8971 WTF?
Sadly, Titan had dropped her emergency ballast weights. These are large steel weights that, in the event of a need to ascend quickly, they can be dropped making her positively buoyant. These weights had been released so they knew something was wrong. I'd put money on them hearing noises from the hull as the ingress of water delaminated the carbon fibre. So, maybe some psychological stress but nothing physically painful. Interesting video. I didn't know about the bubble pulse effect. My rabbit hole for later this evening. Thank you. And to all you budding deep submersible designers out there. "There's a reason bubbles are spheres!".
yeah well this goes to show why if you see any thing wrong with your subs decent like oh I don't know faster decent into the deep return to the surface do not continue on wards the Titan proves why continuing on wards when your descending faster then normal is a bad idea
The sub had too much negative buoyancy on descent (descended too fast). After they realized they had a problem with warning signs from the sensors, and the electric systems were failing (perhaps water intrusion), so they released the ballast to abort the descent, but the sub was slower to ascend than it should have. Not that a faster ascent would have helped, they were too far underwater. In the end, they could hear the carbon fiber failing, and they were most likely terrified of all the system failures and knew they were going to die. Most likely death was instantaneous upon hull implosion. But the root cause was lack of proper design, not listening to experts, and building the sub out of carbon fiber, also crappy system design with no backups.
Very very interesting vid. I always wrongly assumed that submariners or others like the Titan occupants, actually knew and went through an implosion slowly enough. I glad to know that the Titan would be not experiencing unbelievable pain, but out like a light. Thank you for making this vid 👍
Thank you for making this.
He knew EXACTLY what he was doing
I already saw it coming when he uploaded lol
i dont get it
@@stutterpunk9573 the titanic sub💀
All of the money in the world can't fix stupid....
@@williampotato1221no but it can amplify it
Hank Green, a science youtuber, responded to tweets asking how to recover any bodies from Titan by saying "In this scenario, a human stops being an organic body and becomes a physics equation." I'd assume every cell of the body ruptures under the pressure and you basically turn into an underwater dust cloud that kinda disperses into the water.
Skin is pretty tough. I've seen pictures of things that look like floppy halloween masks from explosions etc. I bet a good chunk of human scalp could survive relatively intact.
@@toolbaggers not submarine implosion. Skin would incinerate.
It would also get very hot
@@toolbaggers What you have seen is either *fakes* made by all kinds of clowns or something not comparable at all. A body gets torn apart by an explosion. But in an implosion it's subjected to gargantuan levels of pressure and heat so it simply vaporizes. And skin is NOT tougher than bone.
@@filiphabek271 Depending on whether it was in the gas bubble or in the water? Wouldn't the water remain cold? Still it would be like putting the skin into a hydraulic press, the result a thorough squish. Explosion forces aren't the same; this is an implosion force.
Fantastic video, very informative, well put together and sadly, very timely.
Excellent Video. Well done. Thank you for this info and demonstration.
Another really great video. I thought the bit at the very end showed an incredible amount of class and compassion. What a very respectful way to reflect on the recent tragedy. Nice work.
I've read a number of WW2 memoirs, some from submariners. Most mentioned fellow submarines and how many just 'disappeared' without ever knowing what happened to them. Very few WEREN'T lost with all hands. Truly terrifying.
Some of those were almost certainly German U-Boat casualties. The U-Boat was known for it's top-notch stealth. U-480. Not to mention they had a deck gun.
@@zac3758 Subs didn't sink each other as often as you might think, the biggest predators of a WW2 sub were destroyers and planes.
I like the channel memoirs if ww2
Wake of the Wahoo is a great book for anyone who wants to read about the US side of WW2 subs.
@@shadowmancy9183thanks! I was about to ask for recommendations
Amazing video. Thank you for your work
Thank you for all of the information & explanation of what can happen during an implosion without sensationalizing the Titan sub story. Most reports online aren't as tactful.
Sadly the Titan submersible actually dropped weights and started to ascend unexpectedly a few seconds before the implosion, meaning the crew probably heard the hull breaking. Some experts have said that the design of the carbon fiber hull would have made a crackling noise as the water started to penetrate the carbon fiber layers, just before it broke. Seeing as they dropped the weights hours before they were supposed to and seconds before the implosion, I believe they sadly knew something was wrong.
Those cracks would have been from further delamination. Apparently they'd heard similar om prior dives too, which is what would have weakened theaterial in the first place. Yeh, they really should have stuck with steel or titanium
Yeah, i read somewere (not sure how true) that the titan actually didnt implode that much. you can see on whats left of the titan, that it only had a "small dent", which would have made a crack for the water to storm in.
@@kaspersteenfeldt6108 A 'dent' would have been like spalling inside, same as happens when a DU projectile breaches the armor of a tank; droplets and fragments of material exploding like a shotgun or Claymore mine.
There were crackling noises even before! See the Karl Stanley interview on ACE. Karl Stanley is a submariner and sub inventor who tried to dissuade his friend Rush from continuing with that sub. Karl was on dive 2 and testifies that already then there were crackling noises at the deepest but also at only some 300 ft when they rose back to surface which was an obvious sign the composite material was moving on micro/nano level and subsequently getting weaker/porous etc. A very interesting interview!
@@kaspersteenfeldt6108those pieces are the outer casing, not the carbon fiber cylindrical pressure hull, which shattered on implosion.
RIP to the KRI Nanggala (402) of the Indonesian Navy too. It takes real courage to serve your country as a soldier/navy sailor. Inna Lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un.
Oh no, remembered again that dysfunction submarine. Never forgotten.
I've been a fan of your content for some time. This is one of your better uploads. Well done.
You are very good at making these mini-documentaries.
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Dark, but i laughed😂
Max round: 0.5
Dark and hilarious, solid joke good sire
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That's an insult to PH nargeolet Apologize please
Methods used for salvage were developed by Commander Ellsberg in 1926 for the raising of the sunken S51. His book is very detailed. They had to develop new methods for divers and and equipment to get cables under the hull, manage those big floats, huge air compressors, etc. I read it when I was a kid and it left a lasting impression.
The sea is merciless and does not discriminate. RIP to every soul lost at sea. 🙏
NWYT: "no one has ever experienced a sub imploding" Titan sub in 2023: "we can change that"
Bro 💀
Thanks for the information and insight on this terrible occurrence. And for keeping your report sombre and respectful.
Going from feeling fine to not existing in fractions of the time it takes to perceive pain really does seem like the best way to go
Yes, ask anybody dying slowly from cancer, or Parkinson's or any painful disease that takes a long time if they'd switch. And dying from radiation sickness can take a whole week of ever worse pain. Ever watched the mini-series Chernobyl? The firemen were never told the nuclear reactor was open and they were subjected to 20,000 X-rays every single second. They literally started to dissolve from the inside out once cells start dying and are unable to replicate. The worst part is that the doctors/nurses can't even administrate pain killers via needles since the blood vessels are too damaged to use effectively. Utter horror. Instant implosion in a tiny fraction of a second not even being aware what is happening? Bliss in comparison.
Well, ½ is a fraction ...
What would you want? To be slowly burned to death. or squished like a bug in a slow enough time to feel every bone break and internal organ exploding?
The only place I want to go is Las Vegas
I think I would like to go that way or maybe in my sleep but not until I am 110. That is my current plan at least.
A morbid - but very interesting - subject handled with respect and dignity. Thank you.
Excellent video. Thank you.
I would have thought Sailfish crew mentioning the previous name of Squallus would be a good thing considering the miracle that happened with saving those stricken submariners. Yes, 26 souls perished. But the resilience of the design and build quality of Squallus saved so many. For me that's worth a lucky charm title and without taking anything away from all those who participated in rescuing, salvaging and retrieving the Squallus and all but one of her crew ( where on earth could he have gone ) A truly amazing endeavor at such an early stage of submarine development. Another exhalent video. Well done.
It's generally bad luck to rename a seagoing vessel unless you forbid anyone aboard from ever mentioning the previous name. One of hundreds of bits of marine superstition.
Outstanding explanation! Very clear and well demonstrated; the best explanation of this tragedy I've watched. Thank you!
Excellent review of the history. Thank You!
Love your channel! 😊
Read the logs of sailors trapped inside military submarines. They died after that. It's horrifying to read them. There is a video on it. Edit:- Read logs of *Kursk* submarine for starters.
The claustrophobia must be going wild in such situations
No bloody thank you
It would be worse if they were eaten alive by piranha fish.
@@thorsrensen3162or say eaten by a herd of wild horses
@@Wolf-hh4rv Haha yes that would be horroble.
My cousin's great grandpa was a sailor on an Italian submarine during WW2. His submarine was sunk and he was one of the few to survive by ejecting from the torpedo launcher
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Holy cap 🧢
Idk Rick, sounds like bullsht to me
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BS, unless the sub was sunk in a river or a pond the underwater pressure would crush somebody if they got launched from 1atm pressure to 10, 20 or 30atm of pressure.
Very well done. Thank you
In the audio recording of the Titan's implosion, there was a loud crack about a second or two before the implosion actually occurred. Their last moments were unfortunately filled with terror.
Big thank you to the creators of this video. Real information. Internet memes and news coverage be damned. Keep doing what you are doing.
Thank you for making this video. I never thought of their emotions in their final moments. I hope they rest easy.
I just knew it had imploded. It didn't have the capacity to go to those depths. If you read what they said about how it was built, it just didn't have the capacity. Period. And they weren't out floating somewhere, waiting to run out of air. They knew it had imploded as soon as it happened because they saw the huge 🫧🫧🫧 bubbles 🫧 🫧🫧 that came up when it imploded. Plus they heard it on the some type of sonar they were using. (I'm no expert, obviously, I just know enough to get me in trouble. I say the same things about my car, too because I was with a mechanic for 25 years 🙂) Especially because of the explosion of bubbles 🫧, I don't understand why they dragged it out, other than to distract us from Brandon's son's crap for almost a week. How sad for the families 😢 😔 Just my completely uneducated thoughts on everything to do with that mess 👋🏻 🙏🏼😥☠️🥺❤️🩹💦🫂
@@iamtammydee Exactly agree with you man
Just subscribed to HIT. Looking forward to many more reviews.
Excellent presentation. Thanks!
The narrator did right in saying that the feelings of those on board the Titan in its last moments were likely ones of joy. Very reassuring that they at least may not have died afraid, something many of us have probably forgotten.
Not the kid
@@billfromEtown The mom said he wanted to go, and even traded her spot with him.
There was up to a half hour of emergency comm\beeping\cracking of the hull
@@trentbrownstone1481 The only article that I can find saying anything of the sort taking place on its final dive is an article from "Gaming Deputy", quoting an unlinked article from "Fast Technology". I cannot find the news site "Fast Technology", let alone the article Gaming Deputy sourced its information from. There are multiple articles reporting "cracking" sounds from 2019, but nothing from any reputable source I can find relating to cracking sounds, emergency comms or any beeping being reported on the final dive last month in June 2023.
Unfortunately, despite the best hopes at the end, there were indications that Titan was attempting an emergency assent moments before. From the reports i've heard, it sounds like their acoustic warning systems alerted them to the impending hull failure and they had dropped ballast (this is information supposedly attained from the surface crew.) It may have only been seconds between the warning and the failure though - likely only the pilot truly understood what that warning meant before the failure.
Idk if this is even true, but somebody attached audio to the meme of acoustic sound from some sonar, where you can hear that hull cracked first, second before main implosion. But I couldn't find this audio anywhere else, so I am not sure it is true
@@volodymyr_budii I'd pay good money to see the footage from the GoPro that they had onboard I can almost guarantee that the memory card would've survived
The pilot was also the CEO of the company who already knew that the sub was unsafe and didn't really care
@@mwbgaming28 I don't think so... Some guy put camera behind bulletproff glass on shooting range and started shooting to that glass. Camera wasn't straight behind glass to be clear. When he finally shoot through that glass, camera felt off and there was so much Gs that SD card dissasemblet into layers...
@@FirssenSimracing if it's the video I think it is, the camera took a direct hit from a decent caliber bullet I've seen GoPros survive plane crashes, and even bombs (even if the camera didn't survive, the memory card did) You might be right, but microSD cards are incredibly tough for what they are, I've had microSD cards that have been in drones that I lost control of and crashed onto solid concrete from like 300ft up, the drone was a total loss, but the memory card was fine
I love learning from these videos and all the technical stuff you share in them.. But this video was a little different! It seems like you wanted us and the loved ones of those lost that although it was a horrific death they felt no suffering. and i loved the way you reiterated that in the end. honestly brought me to tears!
Fascinating. Thank you for the explanation.
It's mindblowing I get to live in a time where I as a human can observe the terrifying Bubble Pulse Effect. I had no idea about it, but it makes perfect sense that when an explosion happens at that depth, the water pressure wants to collapse the bubble, but the air has nowhere to go. It is absolutely horrifying to me, but I can't stop rewatching those clips. (shudders)
What an awful way to die!! 😢
The Titan was ten times deeper than the sub of the coast of Argentina that imploded. That means FAR more pressure and a MUCH more powerful implosion. The compressed air from the implosion at 12,500' would be instantly compressed, super-heated, then instantly dissolved into the ocean water (along with whatever was inside the submersible pressure chamber). Also keep in mind that the water slamming into itself after compressing the air in the vessel would produce enormous force. A powerful shock wave would then propagate away in all directions from the implosion, and that is what is heard from audio-sensing equipment at the surface. Human bodies would be completely gone, obliterated.
@@MrManfly So, an instantaneous, painless death is "awful"? Did you watch this video at all?
@@MrManfly it's a great way to die. One second you're alive and 10 milliseconds you're dead...no pain or even knowledge that you're gonna die.
@@cerwilliamyatesjr71and famous to boot, which is what everyone on board was ultimately after. Win/win. /s
Great video team. Very respectful and informative. May the lost souls rest in peace.
This is a really interesting and well-made video. Good job!
Narrator, you make an excellent point. Maybe their last thoughts were exciting ones because the catastrophic implosion would be out of their perception. I have not heard this idea on any other news commentary.
Honestly, being imploded like that is one of the best ways to go. At least if it's the dying part you're scared of. I mean there is no dying part really.
u dont even have time to die. u just insta-unexist.
3:30 +the ability to leave no fingerprint on crime scene -less grip Pain
I'm a part time blacksmith and have accidentally touched red hot steel (around 1600 F) and I can tell you for sure that most of the time, your fingerprints come back. Not always without scars, but definitely still enough to identify you. :) Funny side note there - my mother-in-law has hands that, at she aged, kept getting smoother and smoother. She had to go for a security clearance and they couldn't get any fingerprints with a digital scanner. I'm not sure if they got anything useful with ink.
There's a video on YT showing what is understood to be the transcript between the sub and the hub ship above. It shows a period of 19 minutes between the first sensor indicating a hull issue to the final message. During that time they reported cracking coming from the aft of the sub and it struggling to ascend due to it's weight. It also appeared to have been descending too fast as it was around 3600m after just 90 minutes. 19 minutes in that sub knowing there were serious issues would have been extremeley traumatic. The implosion instant and probably a blessing given the fear and panic in the sub during that time. Such a sad disaster
you forgot to mention another implosion tragedy of a navy submarine, that is of the KRI 402 Nanggala of the Republic of Indonesian Navy, which happened on April 20th 2021
It's crazy to think that every navy took decades to figure out the icing problem of the ballast air valves (and stuck diveplanes). F.e. USS Thresher, USS Scorpion, S-647 Minerve: all had technical difficulties, lost propulsion and couldn't blow the ballast tanks because the valves froze... 👀
Skorpion was a torpedo running hot “allegedly”
Thanks for sharing this information. As a former sonar technician I found it interesting but very sad as well.
Great work. The pressure ignition is well thought. Thumbs up alway.
Wow! Thanks for this great info!!!!
Submarines are definitely one of my favourite vehicle, the fact that you can just chill in a room underwater knowing that outside is the vast ocean is just satisfying
And extreme claustrophobic 💀
@@ADMusicSsubmarines are huge
@@vince-p.8591not inside
@@madensmith7014 Navy subs are pretty spacious
@@madensmith7014 your correct I thought at first that since subs were huge in size that it meant on the inside as well I guess not
If you're lucky you don't know something is wrong or it's far too fast to even know when it happens. The worst case would be the Thresher as they knew it was over as they slowly sank. I can't even imagine how time stood still for them. With the Scorpion they could have had no idea it was coming and not knowing would be the biggest kindness available.
As a Qualified US Submariner I know that every man aboard Thresher was doing everything they could to correct their situation. No one would have been sitting back just waiting. We all know our boats and how all systems work and would have been too busy to spend time worrying. We all know the seriousness of what we did. And, yes, I did sail aboard a Thresher Class Submarine.
Very well researched, great video.
Fascinating video I think the escaping through the torpedo bay is awesome
3:30-3:40 The best realistic deep sea implosion I’ve found on KZhead! Wild to see a burst of flames in depths not even sunlight can reach
That is a clip of a man burning his fingers
imagine how quickly it happened to the Titan. they were 10x deeper and thousands of times smaller. it was over in less than a blink of an eye.
Reckon that engineers could probably work out how quickly it happened by how far the titanium end hemispheres travelled as it imploded!
@@stevie-ray2020 good idea
@@user-hx5qv4kd6 The force of the implosion would've pulverized them instantly into a large spread out cloud of fish-food fragments!
@parkerc204 The force of the implosion would've pulverized them instantly into a large spread out cloud of fish-food fragments!
@@stevie-ray2020 James Cameron has seen pictures of the wreckage, he says the entirety of the submersible has compacted into one of the two end-domes that capped either side of the cylindrical hull, that includes the remains of all five of the victims. Like the equivalent of standing up an empty soda can and stamping on it, the entire can basically fits inside the lid. That's what happened to Titan supposedly, flattened from back to front like an accordion.
Brilliant, thank you.
Being in a military submarine would be a nightmare :( You cant see anything and really controll anything
but theres the good ol hum of the reactor to keep you comfort in your coffin sized beds!
So you're saying that a submarine is any sub's dream?
"It takes a 'special' kind of sailor to go on a ship that's DESIGNED to sink."
It's a weird combination of being trapped in a cramped space unable to see the outside world, along with being all alone and exposed in an enormously wide open empty space, surrounded by crushing pressure and possibly freezing cold. And that's when you're in peacetime.
As a former submariner, i'll just say you HAVE to trust your shipmates. While you sleep, you have to trust they won't screw up. From the electrician keeping the lights on, the quartermaster plotting your position, they helmsman and planesman steering the dang thing, right up to the captain, everybody has to trust that everybody else knows their job. And they all rely on you to do your job properly as well.