Fastest Furnace Smelter Array I Ever Made! Super Smelter Challenge | Minecraft 1.17

2021 ж. 11 Қыр.
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Welcome to the Super Smelter Challenge! The aim is to build a furnace array to cook a double chest of stone as fast as possible. This challenge comes from Gustav Svenson, make sure to checkout his video linked below. I'll take you through my design process and show a version that was way too complicated and actually, thinking simple gave the best results. Can we beat Gustav's time of 02:21.93?
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  • Many people can benefit from this video by learning the thought process behind solving a problem. They don't even need to understand basic Minecraft mechanics, but it helps to relate. Break a problem into smaller components, solve each section, tie it together, test, and then come back later to see where you can simplify. I enjoy how you found even simpler solutions after taking a break and revisiting. I truly appreciate you sharing each step in your thought process!

    @avoidoddlaw6835@avoidoddlaw68352 жыл бұрын
    • That's programming decomposition in action right there!

      @charalamposkiokpasoglou5204@charalamposkiokpasoglou52042 жыл бұрын
    • Welcome to the jee advanced examination hall ;)

      @two-eyedhomosapien8078@two-eyedhomosapien80782 жыл бұрын
    • Dude is an engineer, not fair ground 😂😂

      @jujoya@jujoya Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for watching the video, I hope you enjoyed it! I would like to add that this isn't supposed to be a practical smelter to use in your world. It does create lag due to all the items moving around. I should also say that as per the rules of the challenge, we don't need to worry about re-fuelling the furnaces. If we did, we'd need to add a fuel line. It was a lot of fun to design though!

    @LogicalGeekBoy@LogicalGeekBoy2 жыл бұрын
    • Make it survival, enderpearl stasis chamber to get to the exit chest, survival.

      @davidmiedema2950@davidmiedema29502 жыл бұрын
    • Could you also use Blast Furnaces?

      @Andi-mq8vi@Andi-mq8vi2 жыл бұрын
    • U should be invited in scicraft

      @thefactor7854@thefactor78542 жыл бұрын
    • Bro, WDL PLS

      @shakeebkhozam5715@shakeebkhozam5715 Жыл бұрын
    • @@davidmiedema2950No fuel, not survival.

      @poppinlochnesshopster3249@poppinlochnesshopster32494 ай бұрын
  • i can't tell you how many times I was at work, just doing my job, and an idea popped into my head for a problem I was having in MC

    @nottabandaid@nottabandaid2 жыл бұрын
  • I love how you start by following the spirit of the competition but then realize there are no rules and anything is possible and completely obliterate Gustav's time. Oh my god

    @eclogues_@eclogues_2 жыл бұрын
  • Dang, mighty fast! Didn’t see the player filling system coming.

    @SvensonGus@SvensonGus2 жыл бұрын
    • maybe next time do a double chest of boxes full of stone.

      @TheMhalpern@TheMhalpern2 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheMhalpern doublechest of shulkers full of stone 🤣🙈

      @SvensonGus@SvensonGus2 жыл бұрын
    • @@SvensonGus tnt shulker unloaders incoming

      @daveguy_@daveguy_2 жыл бұрын
    • @@daveguy_ doesn't work

      @TheMhalpern@TheMhalpern2 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheMhalpern When using lava or fire it does

      @mrkirby8622@mrkirby86222 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for the nuclear reactor tutorial i needed to get into a university

    @Marlin123@Marlin1232 жыл бұрын
    • 😂

      @rakshitgv@rakshitgv2 жыл бұрын
    • Lmao

      @vinicus508@vinicus5082 жыл бұрын
    • Hahahah basically, it would also work for engineering

      @samwinterstarch4857@samwinterstarch48572 жыл бұрын
  • - How many observer blocks you want in your build? - Yes

    @TheGlitchRoom@TheGlitchRoom2 жыл бұрын
    • nether is empty

      @Mathe_Baendiger@Mathe_Baendiger Жыл бұрын
  • I thought the olympics ended a few weeks ago. Gold Medal for this one!

    @alakario@alakario2 жыл бұрын
  • This man taught me how to design stuff via problem solving, salute to this guy!

    @GrndSbtr@GrndSbtr2 жыл бұрын
  • That's amazing! I was wondering what the final time would be but this is absolutely insane! Well done! Now... I seem to have a smelter that could do well in this challenge.

    @ThomasToSpace@ThomasToSpace2 жыл бұрын
  • If you were holding a different item in your hand you'd probably be able to shift+doubleclick everything in without having any issue of having to place the last stack in

    @MashuClips@MashuClips2 жыл бұрын
  • Hey logic, a small detail the observers pointing into the redstone dust around 14:10 as well as the noteblocks in 15:54 don't power the droppers by QC, its the dust itself that powers it and you don't need noteblocks to update the droppers, regular blocks will do

    @MichaelDias18@MichaelDias182 жыл бұрын
    • It powers it by QC first, actually.

      @poppinlochnesshopster3249@poppinlochnesshopster32494 ай бұрын
  • *Sneakily adds this to the Simply Minecraft series

    @seanlooloo6095@seanlooloo60952 жыл бұрын
  • I use a similar input for my storage system (breaking a chest) and its great. Simple and faster than any unloader.

    @DouglasGordo@DouglasGordo2 жыл бұрын
    • Reminds me of cubicmeter’s million-items-an-hour sorting system that auto-destroys shulker boxes to unload, super fast and super insane

      @mrmaxmondays@mrmaxmondays2 жыл бұрын
  • Perfect. I’ll make sure to remember this the next time I’m in a rush to smelt a double chest of stone!

    @slicedlime@slicedlime2 жыл бұрын
  • Great video :D The production quality is insane!

    @pradyumnaa9499@pradyumnaa94992 жыл бұрын
  • Absolute Genius. I love how you thought to just break the chest and use the player to place the items in the output chest.

    @hamzasayyid8152@hamzasayyid81522 жыл бұрын
  • Wow. Just, wow! I love your lateral thinking there. Brilliant solution!

    @316Minecraft@316Minecraft2 жыл бұрын
  • dude, your dedication is super admirable lol that was awesome. Thank you for the video

    @djlurch1049@djlurch10492 жыл бұрын
  • I am building one of these currently and my 64 furnace smelter now seems extremely underwhelming

    @knyxx4942@knyxx49422 жыл бұрын
    • I just have ilmango's 8 furnace version but it's plenty fast anyways.

      @puppergump4117@puppergump41172 ай бұрын
  • Brilliant design, and amazing time! You crushed it, Logic!

    @jonotis1922@jonotis19222 жыл бұрын
  • This was amazing! Very good project and planning but most of all I liked how I could follow your thought process and learn. Thank you, well done!

    @Irdanwen@Irdanwen2 жыл бұрын
  • Omg. That was amazing. You’re so brilliant and awesome Logic. Keep up the great work you do. 👍✌️

    @nealschelb1301@nealschelb13012 жыл бұрын
  • I was waiting for this, when you posted about it in Twitter. Love the video.

    @dinochakraborty04@dinochakraborty042 жыл бұрын
  • I would never have thought to do it this way. Amazing stuff and very entertaining!

    @Theonlyshaun@Theonlyshaun2 жыл бұрын
  • Do blocks fall faster than they flow in water? If so, you stack this vertically instead of horizontally to make it even faster!

    @jageshkano@jageshkano2 жыл бұрын
    • na

      @en20drayt87@en20drayt8711 ай бұрын
  • Good stuff Logic ;) thorough as usual and well explained

    @nathanlandis7653@nathanlandis76532 жыл бұрын
  • That looked great and it was way faster then I had thought. I was guessing around 50 seconds with the item movement on the ice.

    @Berserk_Loon@Berserk_Loon2 жыл бұрын
  • amazing as always. thanks for the video logic

    @daveguy_@daveguy_2 жыл бұрын
  • Great video and the final run was so much fun to watch.

    @jameswright4640@jameswright46402 жыл бұрын
  • You are a mad man @logic & that’s why I love your videos. Well done!

    @jimiwheels4508@jimiwheels45082 жыл бұрын
  • So satisfying. Awsome contraption

    @SpringFsm@SpringFsm2 жыл бұрын
  • Thx for the water transfering idea!

    @YoxiiPlz@YoxiiPlz2 жыл бұрын
  • This is amazing. Also very practical! :-)

    @grampyrick4356@grampyrick43562 жыл бұрын
  • Enjoyed the thought process explanation

    @epicthief@epicthief2 жыл бұрын
  • Wow. That was very cool. This is the video that got me to subscribe.

    @steveweers6565@steveweers6565 Жыл бұрын
  • You are a legend Logic!

    @chrismorin7652@chrismorin76522 жыл бұрын
  • What a legend. Epic work

    @sunymainwal@sunymainwal2 жыл бұрын
  • Wow. This is amazing!

    @Alphabettttttt@Alphabettttttt2 жыл бұрын
  • Completely smashed it!!

    @omo708@omo7082 жыл бұрын
  • congrate on this genius design.

    @kinonii@kinonii2 жыл бұрын
  • Living up to your name, Logic. That was beautiful.

    @zippa93@zippa932 жыл бұрын
  • The reason for why not all the droppers fired might be because that setup also poweres the dropper from the neighbouring furnace line and when that happens at the exact wrong moment, it doesn' drop out the item

    @drekforder2952@drekforder295211 ай бұрын
  • Incredibly awesome! 🏆

    @TheeSlickShady@TheeSlickShady10 ай бұрын
  • This is lower latency than my 5.4K smelter, worse for bulk though. Good job! Andrews, Firigion puff and I have been working on a low latency smelter with similar ideas as this. Let's see if we can beat your time! One question, how do you plan to fuel this system?

    @Chezrlz009@Chezrlz0092 жыл бұрын
    • Simple, set the minecarts back up and break a double chest of coal

      @cain_1312@cain_13122 жыл бұрын
    • For the challenge, you don't need to refill the fuel, if that was a consideration I'd need to alter the design.

      @LogicalGeekBoy@LogicalGeekBoy2 жыл бұрын
    • @@LogicalGeekBoy makes sense lol. Fueling makes smelters slightly more annoying.

      @Chezrlz009@Chezrlz0092 жыл бұрын
    • @@cain_1312 that would fill the input with sticks though. The direction the hopper leads in matters. It would be nice if it didn't though, and it only accepted items depending on the compatibility.

      @Chezrlz009@Chezrlz0092 жыл бұрын
    • @@Chezrlz009 That wouldn't work for items that can be used as fuel and as a smeltable item, logs and wood for instance can be used both as fuel and to smelt into charcoal. But I do agree, for items that can only be used as fuel OR as a smeltable item it'd be really useful for them to autofill the right input from the one hopper.

      @soultundra7869@soultundra78692 жыл бұрын
  • Well done!

    @kpharm2@kpharm22 жыл бұрын
  • Holy mackerel that thing shifts. A great example of how a simple design can be better than a highly engineered one

    @spnhm34@spnhm342 жыл бұрын
  • I can already this is gonna be lit

    @heyheyhey5709@heyheyhey57092 жыл бұрын
  • Logic: I may have taken this too far. Me: What. Have. You. Done. Amazing stuff as always, Logic!

    @College-lh1xc@College-lh1xc2 жыл бұрын
  • Cool design! You could probably save a couple of seconds by having the chest you brake in the middle so the items don't have to travel that long and then have the output chest also in the middle.

    @Finalisti@Finalisti2 жыл бұрын
    • Optimal position might not be middle but closer to the "RHS". As not all items start smelting at the same time.

      @dontgetmadgetwise4271@dontgetmadgetwise42712 жыл бұрын
  • A well-timed trapdoor in the water stream of the minecart loader could help with regulating the item flow so you don't get overlap.

    @sumwanelz6150@sumwanelz61502 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent!

    @otheremail123@otheremail1232 жыл бұрын
  • This just became required viewing for all my classes required to solve a "wicked problem." Respect! LogicalGeekBoy is amazing!

    @katherinebenton8006@katherinebenton80062 жыл бұрын
    • What? A technical Minecraft video? This seems like it would be very confusing for people who don’t play Minecraft and don’t even know what smelting or red stone is.

      @williamhanna3113@williamhanna31132 жыл бұрын
  • Very cool! Nice thinking outside of the box. Sometimes big groups of simple machines are more elegant than small intricately designed machines, however painful it may be lol. Wouldnt a triangle of hopper minecarts be faster than a railway? Maybe less reliable though

    @jek__@jek__2 жыл бұрын
  • Here's a challenge I've been fighting with for a while: Design the Ultimate Villager Slice. -It has to have a button to get rid of the villager (no, killing it in zombie form does not count) -It has to have a button to turn it into a zombie -It has to have a button to dispense weakness onto the zombified villager -It needs a villager input for new villagers -You need to be able to swap the workstations withtout releasing the villagers, obviously -Your villagers need to be able to gossip with one another (make sure no golems get spawned). -No levers. Ever. You, as the player operator, are only allowed to press buttons. So no tools or boats or anything like that either. -It has to be tilable, no more than two blocks wide (I'd say one block wide, but I can't work it out) -You need to be able to trade with the villager without having to go through a nightmare. Naturally -Bonus points if your villager isn't stuck on a minecart I know a lot of these are solved by Logic's villager slice design, but I'm trying to make it... let's say more automatic. I started with logic's design, but I'm still trying to improve on it.

    @xxmana@xxmana2 жыл бұрын
    • You forgot the most important rule: You need to be able to trade with the villager

      @salsalo7922@salsalo79222 жыл бұрын
    • @@salsalo7922 I'll added for the memes xD

      @xxmana@xxmana2 жыл бұрын
  • Nice effort... I'll beat this tonight. :-)

    @ghostturbo@ghostturbo2 жыл бұрын
  • you are a mad man! hahaah loved it

    @SirRumplesTotolem@SirRumplesTotolem2 жыл бұрын
  • Amazing content

    @artd5313@artd53132 жыл бұрын
  • This is amazing

    @cain_1312@cain_13122 жыл бұрын
  • 0:22 I was waiting for something like "please help me"

    @guilhermefranco2949@guilhermefranco29492 жыл бұрын
  • Finally a smelter I can use smelt some glass!

    @masteroogway2725@masteroogway27252 жыл бұрын
  • Extremely impressive.

    @brandonsmith8017@brandonsmith80172 жыл бұрын
  • Bravo 👏

    @codyk7442@codyk74422 жыл бұрын
  • Without the player loading the output chest, I think the fastest possible is 10 droppers pointing in, giving 20x hopper speed (and making the chest not openable), or 50 items/sec or almost 70 seconds to load the output chest. This means your idea to use a player is necessary to get this kind of speed. I think you might be able to speed things up with hopper minecarts for the output as well, instead of water streams. You can destroy the minecarts quickly enough, but again the non-stackable carts is an issue. Maybe if you used one cart for multiple output lines? You can also load the furnaces faster with piston bolts, and maybe cut down on travel time by laying the furnaces out in 3d instead of 2d

    @danielrhouck@danielrhouck2 жыл бұрын
  • Ameizing!

    @Demito.@Demito.2 жыл бұрын
  • That was cool!

    @UnfriendlyGhostTen@UnfriendlyGhostTen2 жыл бұрын
  • Very cool.

    @manKan379@manKan3792 жыл бұрын
  • What if you use piston bolts to send the minecarts across to the end of the rows quicker? this way each minecart in each row will cross over 1 hopper every tick.(would take only 3.2 seconds for each minecart to empty out) this would save a few seconds in transportation time

    @Heroix.@Heroix. Жыл бұрын
  • 8:05 you can alternate between powered rails and activator rail, looks better and helps with performance cuz no redstone

    @MrHash97@MrHash972 жыл бұрын
  • For loading into the chest, I feel like a large number of hopper minecarts would be the fastest method since you could in theory have a 1-2gt delay from the last item reaching a minecart in an optimal position to that item entering the chest.

    @catgirldoll@catgirldoll2 жыл бұрын
  • 4:12 nuts.

    @RandomUser311@RandomUser3112 жыл бұрын
  • Just a correction logic: at 14:10 you say that the observer powers the dropper using qc, but it doesn't. For qc, the block ABOVE a dropper gets powered and if the it gets an update, the dropper gets powered. In this situation, the observer is powering the air block next to the dropper and it doesn't power because it's not actually getting powered. Also, in the spot where you used dust, I would use a solid block because dust is really laggy. Great furnace array though! Btw the really funny part is that I learnt this in your dissecting minecraft series ;)

    @bobdagranny7431@bobdagranny74312 жыл бұрын
  • good video, impresionante

    @Demito.@Demito.2 жыл бұрын
  • @LogicalGeekBoy I have an idea to improve this even more, you could use nether portal tiles in front of every dropper, and have a second player on the nether side to take all those items at once and fill the chest super quick

    @carlosandres8041@carlosandres80412 жыл бұрын
  • This is cool! Would love to see a version that is survival friendly!

    @mtwone6026@mtwone60262 жыл бұрын
    • Add an ender pearl stasis chamber and it should be survival friendly.

      @TheRealWormbo@TheRealWormbo2 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheRealWormbo Imagine refueling this in survival....would be horrific xD. Need to edit the system to allow a fuel line chest for it to work while dispensing the items constantly in a compact way.

      @AnthonyToscano58@AnthonyToscano582 жыл бұрын
  • Andrews made a even huger array with more than 5000 furnaces.

    @mushroom_block3007@mushroom_block30072 жыл бұрын
    • Wowsers, that sounds awesome!

      @LogicalGeekBoy@LogicalGeekBoy2 жыл бұрын
  • Epic! No chance even ilmango can beat that, gg!

    @markturner1220@markturner12202 жыл бұрын
  • would be cool to have a sticky piston and slime block, at beginning, to like launch the items after tnt blows up chest so they start up with a bit more speed, might shave off a few seconds

    @Spacewalker1870@Spacewalker187017 күн бұрын
  • This supersmelter is actually super

    @simplygreat9230@simplygreat92302 жыл бұрын
  • I love the player pickup system. I can't help pondering how the challenge might've been different with the added restriction that the items need to be in the output chest without player intervention, i.e., hands-free. What would be the fastest way to do that? Off the top of my head, I'd make the observation that it just says that all the items must be in the final output chest, but not in what form. So to make the insertion of items into storage as parallel as possible, one strategy may be to put items into shulker boxes as quickly as possible, one stack per shulker box, which with the right arrangement of hoppers could be done several items at once, perhaps up to 4x. Once the stack is in the hopper, break it and have that travel to the output chest, where I think you could get up to 8x items inserted, again with very specific hopper arrangement. Some experimentation would be necessary to see if that's viable.

    @another_jt@another_jt2 жыл бұрын
    • Alternative for no shulker boxes: Hopper minecarts can be stacked on top of each other to split the items coming to the output. Droppers can be utilized to insert items at speeds faster than regular hoppers. About 0.5 items/redstone tick. 10 Droppers on all sides of a dub chest make that go 5 items/redstone tick, so 3456 items would take 692 ticks, about 69.2 minimum theoretical time for chest only. For shulker boxes, I belive the time can be minimized as well. 5 droppers, 1 piston with hopper cart, resulting about 2.5 items/redstone tick, scale that to 54, 135 items/rs tick, that'll go minimum theoretical time 25.6 ticks or about 2.56 seconds theoretical minimum for going into shulker boxes. Add in shulker boxes going into the chest of about 10.8 ticks, taking up 1.08 seconds. Pretty viable. The theoretical time does not include breaking the shulker box and travel time though, so it's gonna be much slower.

      @nathanadhitya@nathanadhitya2 жыл бұрын
  • where you were standing, place a ton of hopper minecarts, and the chest below, they'll pickup the items instantly and put them in the chest, then it doesnt rely on you moving them

    @glenncalkins6154@glenncalkins61542 жыл бұрын
  • Beast mode

    @ChrisJones-nf4hf@ChrisJones-nf4hf2 жыл бұрын
  • Wow I didnt expect it to be that fast

    @chunkythighs6789@chunkythighs67892 жыл бұрын
  • Mumbo : makes biggest super smelter Logic : Makes a World Record Mumbo : Cries Everyone : -_-...

    @anstropleuton@anstropleuton2 жыл бұрын
  • whats the need to split the hopper minecarts, wouldnt it be possible to directly distribute items with them stacked, then you could speed it up significantly using a piston bolt system or anything (the first system)

    @vihaanravishankar3989@vihaanravishankar39892 жыл бұрын
  • Great advice … not just for Minecraft

    @Rouverius@Rouverius2 жыл бұрын
  • Hey mate thanks for the video, Very much beneficial for us Minecraftians out here although there one thing i like you to add though to this video i.e., HOW TO MAKE THE FURNACE ARRAY. many of us like me doesn't know much about redstone. So it may be helpful for us if you make a tutorial of it.

    @AnsumanP@AnsumanP2 жыл бұрын
  • with the 1.19 changes, this can become a survival furnace array

    @macafry@macafry2 жыл бұрын
  • This guys is legit Mumbo Jumbo's long lost cousin

    @rad1cal637@rad1cal637 Жыл бұрын
  • I'm confused by something. He said (during the first of the video, I'm still watching) that he used 54 minecarts to unload the chest but why are they not affected by entity cramming? To my understanding an Hopper minecart is an entity too. What am I missing?

    @fabiozanda9702@fabiozanda97022 жыл бұрын
    • No health to lose to entity cramming. It's why 24 minecarts +1 mob kills the mob rather than breaking a cart

      @b-beale1931@b-beale19312 жыл бұрын
    • Carts don't take damage

      @Roknok@Roknok2 жыл бұрын
    • Carts are entities but they don’t have a health bar

      @aayampakhrin8128@aayampakhrin81282 жыл бұрын
    • as people said, minecarts don't have health, if you as a player happened to fall in there you'd die pretty quickly, but minecarts will be fine

      @shards1627@shards16272 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you all for the explanation, I'm a bedrock player for the most part and I'm not so well versed with entity cramming for that reason. Now I get it

      @fabiozanda9702@fabiozanda97022 жыл бұрын
  • 🔥🔥

    @vrrani9296@vrrani92962 жыл бұрын
  • Shave a second or so by picking up your flint&stone before completed items actually start arriving,,, and you can use it to double-click the stones into the chest... This isn't really part of the contraption though so isn't really part of the challenge imo, but man that whole array is bonkers!

    @rellikpd@rellikpd2 жыл бұрын
  • instead of using water channels. use dispensers to shoot items into a nether portal and then stand in the nether in the portal and manually full the chest in the nether. hopefully thay helps 👌👌👌

    @whitcher9995@whitcher99952 жыл бұрын
  • he did it 👍

    @dejazO0@dejazO02 жыл бұрын
  • Me: Proud of the 32 furnace super smelter I just build w/attached bamboo farm. LGB: Pardon me while I smelt the entire world in under a minute.

    @PhilRose14@PhilRose142 жыл бұрын
  • Would you provide a world download so I can see how it's made?

    @TexusNoe365247@TexusNoe3652479 ай бұрын
  • Its like Gustav insulted your building ability and you let it fester for years and years while you planned your next move lol 😆 😂 😅 🙃 🤣

    @mrfunnygreen@mrfunnygreen2 жыл бұрын
  • This is really cool! I reckon this could be tweaked to make it viable for survival minecraft

    @avian946@avian9462 жыл бұрын
    • Main problem is the fuel input

      @santhosh3374@santhosh33742 жыл бұрын
  • How apropos. I’m building a new smelter array and saw some cool new ideas.

    @mef9327@mef93272 жыл бұрын
  • holy schit man! just wow

    @justinpyle3415@justinpyle34152 жыл бұрын
    • Waat a sentance!

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