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I’m a time-served Turner with 37 years experience, and that was as hilarious as it was anxiety inducing. You reminded me of my first week on the job.
We would all llove to learn something from your 37 years experience
@@evahodges2477 well for a start, don’t do it for a living unless being made redundant 5 times isn’t an issue.
As a cnc operator i just thought : Eh, stick it out another mile without a center support haha, all the vibrations literally made my neck hair stand up
@@prjx5718 not to mention the fact that there was too much lube, he should've run it drier
@@smoker3092 and im pretty sure he was using a parting off tool the entire time?
As a trained fitter with hundreds of hours behind a lathe (Colchester), this video was *very* hard to watch! So much was done wrong that I don't even know where to begin. "Oh look, the key won't stay in the chuck when I let go of it". Yes, excactly, that's a safety feature meant for dummies who doesn't realize what damage that key can do if the machine is started with the darn thing in there! First rule of opperating a lathe: Never EVER let go of the key/wrench when it is in the chuck. It should be like glued to the hand!!! And if you intend to use highspeed bits on a regular basis, you really need a tray and a coolant supply. Running those bits without coolant will murder them FAST. And the last thing you want is to sharpen a bit right before making the last pass... Neat little machine though.
This is actually an amazing advertisement for this unit. Using totally incorrect tools and cutting speeds it still gave a decent finish and didn't self destruct.
I agree. I've been looking at lathes for 24h and realized that he was doing it all wrong, you NEVER turn a piece of unsupported material that long (6:1 length:diameter ratio) in ANY lathe.
@@dgillies5420 I've done it.....
@@sovannv You may have done it but its still not good practice.
@@Tocsin-Bang yeah i dont like doing it. The machine i had didnt have a tailstock so i bored the jaws out and used ssv. Came it pretty good. Btw you can get away with different ratios depending on material. Little advice when ratio is high. Dont use dull tools. The leverage could be enough to knock the part out the chuck.
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When I saw 347K subs I thought this guy must be really good and knows his stuff! Well I can tell you as someone who operated and programmed CNC lathes for a number of years, this guy did literally everyone wrong! Turning down with a parting tool, turning down a very long billet without supporting it between centres, NO COOLANT! He's also taking massive cuts for such a tiny little lathe. It's actually a testament to the poor thing that it didn't immediately break! I'll just assume this isn't the guys thing, and he's actually really good at something else?
Programmed CNC
@@naifhubaishi7528 Don't be daft. The same physic applies to both machines.
Astro la Vista Like always amateurs are "doctors" but they are they are self-proclaimed actually just cheaters.
I think it is the whole point, he abused it, and it didn't break.
Like usually if you see "best" i don't trust nobody.
Lessons learned: 1. Use a parting/cutoff tool for a straight turning operation. 2. Never use the tailstock w/center on long pieces. 3. Never use lubricant.
holy moly that was hard to watch!
piworower that was hard on my ears, he should have had a warning for headphones users.
Who let the dogs out!!!WHO WHO WHO ...WHO..
+4. Always stop the spindle when the tool is still in a material.
Yup. Some people only understand with reverse psychology.
props for keeping this on youtube man
Lmao
Really impressed with the quality of that chuck, hanging on to such a long unsupported steel bar turning a heavy cut with the wrong tool and no coolant! My Chinese CL 300 would have spit that bar out at the first tool contact. It’s a good looking mini lathe, would have liked to have seen a demo of the chuck TIR, and tailstock alignment with locking details.
Is it the same as clarke cl 300?
At least we learned that these lathes are very durable. But it was taught us the wrong way.
Support long shafts with the tailstock in order to reduce vibrations. Of course use the right cutting tool and cutting oil. These machines are very delicate and you have to be careful in order not to ruin them and to make them last. Proxxon has very expensive replacement parts.
Polis Dimitriadis tailstocks keep the part from bending and snapping off also. This kills me to watch someone do something that every machinist knows exactly not to do.
Surprised he didn't burn that tool out with all that chatter!!!!!
I'm so envious. You managed to get a different chatter sound on every cut... 😉
It helps if you know the basics of operating a lathe before using it. Love how he stopped the rotation while the cut off tool was still contacting the workpiece during his last cut. This will be a return to Amazon for your next purchase.
It was an itsy bitsy, teeny weenie, yellow polka dot lathe. Remember that song? Things I would have done differently, in order: 1. Learn what I was doing 2. Put the workpiece farther in the chuck 3. Face off the end of the workpiece 4. Center drill the workpiece 5. Extend the workpiece from the chuck as need 6. Secure the workpiece with a live center in the tailstock 7. Measure diameter of workpiece 8. Turn down to desired diameter in small increments. 9. Try to remember what you have learned.
Got to hand it to the little fella. The Proxxon took that beating like a champ😂😂.
It's thirty eight years since I used a lathe but I remembered the tail stock and coolant.
after your experience, which lathe machine mark is good?
@@maribellejasmin3819 After his experience of not using a lathe for thirty-eight years?
First time buyer of a lathe, and it'll be the first time I used one, so I'm definitely buying this one because it's freaking indestructible according to all the experts that have posted. And even better I know what not to do, although some of it seems like common sense.
Oh, how I wish I had even a fraction of this level of blind self-confidence.
😂😂😂
I owned a Proxxon PD360 for some years, my first metal lathe. I learned my lessons on it and it survived, despite heavy milling with a Myford slide and some crazy thread cutting. I bought an Emco Compact 5, which has proven to be the greatest thing I’ve ever acquired. I did buy a Proxxon PD400, the first one had a loud rattling when first switched on, so back it went. The second one seemed ok, but after putting a dti on it, I wasn’t happy with the spindle bore tolerances, so returned it. They claimed it was within tolerances, I disagreed. The other problems were that the leadscrew handwheel wouldn’t move the carriage, I assume because of having fresh gears and probably the thing that bothered me most, was that within 10 seconds, the motor became super hot, which made me worry about longevity. Still in terms of quality, they are the only good lathe on the market. If it had a beefier cast iron tailstock, it would be amazing. I had a Wabeco D4000, which had a tailstock bore which was way out of alignment with the spindle, though all other parameters were perfect, under .01mm. The D4000 was so flimsy, weak and lacking rigidity in the slides, that it was considerably out performed by my Compact 5, whose slides are made from Aluminium!!! The only other lathe that I respect hugely, is the Cowells ME90, which is the best lathe all round, but needs to be scaled up by 100%, to make it more versatile. Not used an Austrian Compact 8, but seen one and had a little play, seemed very nice, but the slides are the exact same design as used later by the D4000 jelly special.🤣🤣🤣
Sorry, so which one would you recommend? The Emco Compact 5 ?
Can parts ne got for these?
If you're not afraid to do some tuning up before serious use, and Seig built (Chinese) 7x10/12/14/etc. family of lathes are quite good. I've got a Raceway 7x12, came from a Homeier parking lot sale for (twenty-five years ago) around $300. It's no problem to cut to .001" on the diameter. It's a little annoying that although it has an inch sized lead screw, the cross and compound have metric thread, but for much less than the cost of a "better" Little Machine Shop version, I could obtain the "true inch" screw parts for those (or, since I have inch-thread lead screw, I could make my own. It comes with plastic change gears, but steel gears are available aftermarket, and the plastic is a nice safety net for beginners -- overrun the carriage under power feed and the gears will break teeth or strip the keyway instead of tearing up parts that are hard/expensive to replace. You can learn anything you need to learn on one of these, before you spend a couple grand on a similar size Proxxon. No argument, the Proxxon is a better lathe out of the box -- but not $1200 better, IMO.
Just ordered Wabeco D4000.... lol we will see how it will perform.
@@mindasb Compact 5 is a superb machine, though only for very small light tasks. The Proxxon PD400 is just beautiful in quality, but only light work. The Compact 8 is a superb machine, which is probably the greatest hobby lathe of all time. Never owned one, but the Emco Compact 10 and the Schaublin 102 VM, are my dream machines. I would choose a minty used compact 8, or new, a PD400, just for accessories and reliability.
Drill a center hole on the material Then support the job by a center. Then cut material
I think its for the billets of longer length to support cantilever bending.
He probably doesn't have a center drill..
With appropriate tooling not just a bit of HSS
What a beautiful little lathe, at 2:47in the video, I like how he is emphasizing that the chuck key has spring loaded detachments very important, if you had not got those springs and we're tightening up there Chuck, and forgot to take out the Chuck key it could cost you your life, I know you are thinking how would you forget to take out the Chuck key, but it is made more easy, because you would never have a habit of having to remember, because they spring out themselves, so with one that has lost its Springs is very dangerous, I remember years ago, when I was being taught in how to use a lathe, they were pretty big about 11 foot-long nearly, there were three Lathes , but the chuck key from one of the Lathes, had not got it's spring it had broke off, so it was not to be used by anybody except for the guy training us but, I recall one day one of the guys would not wait until the fella next to him was finished with the chuck key, so he went and took the one without the spring and of course he did not take it out of the chuck well I do not need to tell you how dangerous this was It flew through the work shop, at I would say a hundred miles an hour if not more, if it had of hit anyone it most likely would have killed them so, I like the way he points out that feature seems like such a small thing but it is so important these machines, They have to be given their respect they deserve you could pay dearly, but once you are trying and they are an absolute joy to walk on
I would never depend on that spring. AND not all chuck keys have them anyway. What I do is have a hard rule that if the key is in the chuck, my hand MUST be on it. Therefore, I can't leave it behind. Been operating lathes for about a half century and never once violated it. I view safety procedures for machines just like for firearms. Never ever stray from safety rules.
The lathe is much smarter than the operator
Dude that was the most hilarious set of lathe operations I've ever seen. Using a parting tool in auto feed to take like a quarter inch of the diameter of a steel rod that is hanging out of the chuck like 20 feet, not between centers, no support, no coolant, just full warp 9. That sound was hilarious! I almost shit myself when you continued to stand there. Hahaha great job dude! Hilarious.
Three Green Charms HAHAHAHAHA!!😉👍
man well a mini lathe that can take abuse...he should provide a link for the product
I honestly don't know a thing about using a lathe and what you're saying seemed apparent to me while watching. Hopefully he will do a little learning before he hurts himself.
Ah I didn't know all of those but just going by ear sth seemed a bit off for a normal lathe process. Sounded like big milling head on a way bigger machine taking of material at edge of it's capabilities. And those few tons CNC lathes are way more capable at handling abuse. But that sound is not sth you want to leave working unsupervised even when using very sturdy machine.
@@hellenwanjiru8947 Proxxon would probably sue to get him to remove it.
Spare parts will come to hand one fine day..use proper tools and accessories!! Too much noise and vibration is causing damage to the machine.make sure everything is good. I'm happy to see these prototype machines👍
My interest, is to get one send price to me, as soon as possible. Quotations to my address. Thank you. Ademola. Oyedeji.
Write an email to the company which he showed you in the beginning.you can get it for sure👍
Love how the lathe dropped the center tip when it realized it wouldn't be used...
These mini lathe machines are fun and good to practice on, and do some handy projects. I wanna buy one❗🤗
That's a parting tool and only meant for cutting straight in hence why it's long and thin. It will cut a lot better with a more rigid tool that's not sticking so far out from the tool post.
That makes absolutely no sense!
Not to mention he's got WAY too much stick out from the chuck (1.5 times the diameter MAX). If the cutting loads force that part out of the jaws, he's gonna have a bad time.
where can i buy this lathe machine...any suggestion please...
Overhang Offset...
In practice parting blades are also used for immediate chamfering to improve speed after a grooving operation, and also used for light turning to clear up any lines when the blade was used in multiple passes to make a wider groove. The biggest problem here is the stick out.
Well I have been thinking of buying this model. After seeing it take that abuse I have no doubts about buying!
me too
This was more difficult to watch than execution videos.
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Cute lathe, thank you for sharing!
who else was just waiting for something to explode?? .... tense viewing for sure!!! 😂🤣
Single point knurling! LMAO!!!!!
Thanks to the comments letting me know this is not actually a useful demo for a newbie wanting to learn!
Now you know , you learnt something 👍
Hey dont be too harsh on him I just acquired a unimat lathe (free) and my 1st job was 1 inch dia plastic to make a hub thingy for a small wheelbarrow. I was all over the place but managed to make the part, but I learned a lot from doing it. I have to make a wooden thing next, then maybe I will try something in metal.
Wow! What a speed reader this guy is.
Considering that you're not using the lathe correctly, it does appear to be performing pretty well. You chucked in a fairly large chunk of steel that was pretty long and larger in diameter that expected, it did turn. You're using a cuttoff bit for turning, which isn't really recommended, but it did appear to cut. You also cut pretty deep with the incorrect tool and you're not using the live center and tailstock to support the end. I'm actually pretty impressed the whole thing didn't grind to a halt. I'm also pretty impressed nothing came flying off in your direction. Impressive little lathe.
What tool shank size is recommended for this lathe? Is it 8x8 mm?
Ok, this is fascinating. I want a real size lathe but this is interesting 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Muy chulo, esto lo voy buscado a un precio que no sea muy alto, puedes pasar enlace de compra
proxxon-us-shop.com/collections/lathe-and-milling-systems/products/precision-lathe-pd-250-e
Just before the 4 minute mark I thought “Oh cool, a destruction video!”. Nah, just torture.
at the end of minute 5 my desk was vibrating, just from the sound of lathe vibrating.
@@davorinrusevljan6440 I could feel it in my hands
@@Metroid1890 that's what she said!😂
Wow this machine so great, thank you for sharing 🌹
Thanks
Very cute lathe. Cheers!
Holy shit... Bit of an investment to just go at it without a clue isn't it? Surprised that piece didn't come out and take the machine with it, lucky guy...
Ok so it's very much obvious that Dr Hacker is not very experienced or rather not experienced at all when it comes to using lathes.. his video editing seems on point tho.. I am quite impressed with this little lathe.. mostly because it somehow withstood all the abuse thrown at it for the duration of the video but also because it actually looks very well build and for cutting some softer metals and smaller parts (not a 20 inch rod) I think it will do a decent job... the finish looked very good despite being done with part off tool...
Turning with a parting tool...brilliant
Hello! What model is this lathe? Is that where it's possible to buy? Thank you
Also, use cutting fluid. Light oil
I agree, usually the cutting oil does a good job because of the proper sulfur content. I use it even when I just use the hand drill. Saves alot of wear and tear on the cutting edge.
EBug0136 - sulfurized cutting fluid works great.
You can use the center point to avoid the vibration of the round bar you know
jesus velazquez won’t make much difference when he is using a parting off tool for incorrect cutting.. if he puts parting off tool on a slight angle it would help minimise sound but still isn’t correct tool
cute toy what is the brand of this lathe? link?
Online class sucks. We cannot perform things we should in workshop but thanks for this vid i am able to visualize how lathe machine works.
Im looking through the comments and im suprised that nobody mentioned that he was also wearing long sleeves.
Most of my life, I have either done construction work, and or worked around some sort of "heavy machinery". Printing presses, injection molding, or big ole metal presses. I've learned from some "old timers" in a lot of these trades, and none of them wore long sleeve shirts, gloves, or any to get caught in the machines we were running or operating. Unless we were doing some type of maintenance on the machines.
3:42 he is just kidding, is he? 3:53 ah... Just a joke, ok? 4:07 CALL THE POLICE
You missed the live center falling from the tailstock because of vibrations at 5:33
he is a hobbyist.
vassoritzen he’s a butcher👹
How can we buy it ? Is there availability in the shops kindly guide me
Where this lathe machine I can purchase? Please reply with price including delivery charges.
May I suggest the correct cutting tool for the purpose. That’s a cutting off tool lol. We all have to start somewhere! Best of luck.
After watching a couple of his videos in perpetual /facepalm mode i was not surprised in the least when i noticed he is missing a portion of one of his fingers. it actually felt like one of those important details in the beginning of a movie that they show again at the end to emphasize its relevance.
LOL, thanks to this video I actually placed an order to this beauty. Much sturdier than I thought and the operator didn't even get this steel bar in the face.
I'm not familiar with any tools like this.. Can you carve any size rod of metal with this? Is there a tool that I can carve a very thin metal rod with?
"Will it Lathe" That is the question...
I read all the comments first, and thought to myself, "He can't be that bad????" And then I watched the video. WHOAH!!! Thanks for showing us this handy little lathe, but brutha....... your lack of safety skills is gonna get you maimed or killed!!
Let´s agree it´s a good thing this is a 25 lb lathe and not a 2500 lb lathe.
Either it is 3phase or Single phase motor?
mr.Dr tool hacker when i was a young boy i'm very fun to do things about a metal works till now actualy i have a mini shop in my home and that is.my dream to have a lathe machine even if a mini lathe machine..
Proxxon hired this guy to prove how durable is their machine.
Tengo desde hace poco un torno como este: Proxxon PD 250 /E; y solo sé de torneado de metal lo que he visto por KZhead. Este es un micro torno (12 Kg y plato de 70 mm), no es un mini torno (aproximadamente 40 Kg y 100 mm de plato). Su peso y dimensiones lo hacen apto para su uso en el hogar (movilidad) pero lo limitan en cuanto a las dimensiones de las piezas a trabajar. Lo primero que hice con él para probarlo es un cono morse MT2 en acero, para adaptar un mandril chino de 16 mm y un miniplato chino al contrapunto, y todo fue bien. O sea que puede trabajar casi cualquier material, si se le aplica la cuchilla y la paciencia adecuadas. También me he equivocado con él al trabajar una barra demasiado larga con apoyo del contrapunto, pero sin soporte intermedio; con la consecuencia de pandeos (vibraciones), que hacen perder precisión, no solo en la pieza, sino también a la propia maquinaria con el tiempo; como se ha apuntado en algún comentario. Existe un torno de la misma marca alemana, el PD 150; que no tiene avance automático (roscas) y cuyas dimensiones le limitan prácticamente a juguetes y modelismo. El 250 sin embargo, es a mi modo de ver, perfecto para fabricarnos las pequeñas piezas que a veces querríamos tener para arreglar o fabricar cualquier cosa a nivel particular (hogar, moto-bici y demás vehículos). Existe también de la misma marca un torno mayor, el PD 400, que ya está en los 40 Kg más o menos; o sea, que no lo puede uno mover cuando termina para guardarlo en el estante de un armario; y cuya diferencia con el 250 es la que apunté: plato y dimensiones. Es decir, para piezas un poco mayores. De este tipo: mini tornos; en torno a los 40 Kg hay muchos. De menos de 15 Kg, como el 250, que yo sepa, solo existe actualmente este torno “de verdad”; y algunos chinos “de juguete”; que solo valen en todo caso para metal blando y plástico; y cuya precisión deje probablemente mucho que desear. El 250 me costó hace un par de meses 950 €; envío e IVA incluidos, en España. No me referiré al mal uso que se ha hecho en esta presentación, pues ha sido suficientemente tratado. Solo espero que esta información le sirva a alguien. Saludos.
Cómo se llama para comprarlo Lo nesesito dime donde lo compro i. Moo se llama GRASIAS me urge este tornero !!! Amigo mé urge GRASIAS
@@jaimelinaldi4679 Marca Proxxon, creo que es alemana. Y el modelo es el PD 250 /E. Saludos
where can i find to buy this lathe pls you have the link? tx
Throwing all those directions and manuals aside, like a real man!
Omg get that tail stock in use when turning long stuff, dude my heart was in my mouth watching this, and coolant of some kind.... and bolt that thing down.....
Lmaoo I was thinking the same thing
Che modello è questo tornio
And use a fucken right hand “TURNING” tool instead of a part off.
Nicolò Partis its a Proxxon lathe, made im germany. Check out there website.
Man, I really wish I knew what your saying just so I can enjoy the hilariousness... WTF is a tail stock...
I'm kind of impressed that this little machine could make that cut with the parting tool and without stalling. So if used correctly then seems like a decent lathe for a hobbist, should it be well priced.
@LightWrathme agreed, and doesn't that look like a live centre in the tailstock ???
Hope to buy one of these but where can I buy same as that....
Hello.. From where I can buy this Lathe please let me know
That is an insane amout of overhang without a center, be careful my dude
I just wonder how you managed to stay alive, for such a long time?
This guy is just............ I'm not a specialist in any way, but even I couldn't watch the whole thing.
What diameter of stock can the machine handle?
I looked at all the comments about wrong speed, wrong tool, too long out of the chuck. BUT, not one comment about what he did right. After all; he did take it out of the box before using it!
when your lathe makes a noise like a dying animal, maybe you should bolt it down and back off a little
Buy a center drill and learn to use it. If that's a dead center, get some extreme pressure lube, too.
Hell no, just speed up the rpms ... lol
The bit where it vibrated so much that the dead centre fell out of the tailstock was what got me.
ive never used a lathe in my life but when i heard that sound i knew it aint right....lol
No just hold the tail stock down, it will be fine! This video made me cringe, a great example of how NOT to use a lathe!
О!!!!! Боже!!! Один звук чего стоит!!!!))) Станок прелесть!!!))) Токарь - гарпун!))))
Так алень отрезным протачивает,да ещё вроде и нержавейку.....
hey buddy show us that wooden gear in the gearbox that another filmer found when opening the gearbox! i wanna know it is still there!!
SUPPORT YOUR WORK!!!!
I use the same lathe 5 Jears for my Modelltrains and make my Spare Parts self . Greetings from Germany
Good advert for Proxxon. If it can survive this abuse it must be well made 😂
I've never seen a chuck key with a spring to keep people from leaving it in place when they turn it on. My God he never bolted to the table. Look how much was left unsupported on the first cut, i guess he never heard of a pilot hole on the end of the bar and that thing on the end is called the tailstock. What was the brand how do order it.
It is Amazing & good one for small work shop ! Very much useful for Instrumentation service & repair workshop ! Hope it will cut MS,Copper,Brass ,Bakelite,Glass fiber , Nylon rods etc ! How much is the price of this in India market ? Please provide the complete Electrical & mechanical specification !
A machinist―he ain't ! But I really laughed out loud at his confident 'thumbs-up' at the end, just after he turned that poor screeching shuddering machine off to examine his handiwork. Perfect ...!
"So how many thousandths are you going to take off?" "thousandths?"
Two years on and your comment is still funny.
Apparently with enough rpm a parting tool is supposed to do anything?
Super clever little lathe I like.
crash test passed. my toolmaker's heart is crying. ( google translation )
Turning with a parting tool... 😏 and look at the handle for X axis at 5.23 while it is turning!!! 😶
Hmm just wanted to buy a few pieces but no link
Great. Thanks for your sharing
What where your thoughts. Had volume down low I couldn’t hear.
Thoughts are the guy in the video is an idiot who shouldn't ever be allowed near machine tools.
I have never touched a lathe machine before, nor did I ever seen one with my own eyes directly, but judging from the noise this thing made, I'm 100% sure there is something wrong, dude.
Yeah the operator
Its only for testing, right? and first time behind a lathe.
Hello sir. Very good video. May I ask you where you ordered this lathe from. Is there a link or website to purchase this item please.
Hi I by this from Germany on eBay.com
@@DIY.Invented oh ok. Thank you
when you opened the box i though that was a bit of it ! lol tiny watch makers lath ? cute !
Your turning with a parting tool You silly Billy.
nice lathe...price please?
5:33 that live center😂😂😂
Atleast now we know how durable this machine is
Mark Damien Rapada brilliant review....I didn’t kill the lathe...yet
Indeed, Proxxon make some great kit for SMALL jobs....have a couple on my work bench.....did i say they were more suited to SMALL modelling type work 😊....
@@MrSteamDragon would you consider the machine adequate for making rings as in jewelry? I need a small capacity off the shelf machine for a few custom wedding ring jobs. I don't have need for large machine or heavy usage, but I don't want to buy junk either. Thanks for your reply in advance.
michael paulissen hi, i have the proxxon table saw and the shaper. Both are more than adequate for small tasks. I dont have the metal lathe, but for small items like rings i would imagine they would be ideal. I have had both my tools for nigh on 5 years and they have performed flawlessly. Proxxon are probably not the cheapest small table top tools, but based on my experience the investment was worth it. YMMV of course 😎
@@MrSteamDragon hehehe
Oh, now I see, it’s that meaning of “hacker”.
Did anyone else notice the chuck key stayed in the chuck when he removed the last piece of stock? What happened to the spring?
Which type machine's use for watches making??