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A little surprised by the Herbert, but halfway through the video, everything looks pretty reasonable P.S. I appreciate the respect for Jordan Love as a diehard Packers fan; it REALLY felt like nobody was really talking about us this off-season 🤷
P.P.S. I'm a recent subscriber to your channel, because I found so many of your NFL shorts HILARIOUS xD Wouldn't mind if you had a Tom Grossi crossover at some point too :)
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Your take on the falcons aged pretty well with them taking penix
he will be a backup qb and be 30 years before he starts an nfl game
If you play the numbers game more like in 3 years
Wow you get a year or two out of him
@@BigPackersGuy not good with math are you?
@@Dragoneen i was exaggerating kid chill out
1:58 - holy shit, he called Penix at 8 😳😳
just about to say this lolll
Most people expected them (Including Kirk himself) to draft a QB. Second round at the highest but no one predicted them taking penix at 8
@@dlow3921 exactly!
Wow he predicted the falcons taking a QB😮
Just to remind you. The Bears have a track record of doing stupid things. So if they dont take Williams, we are gonna hold you to that Hot Sauce comment.
If the Bears don’t take Caleb, all of Chicago will explode
Again
They have a new gm, Ryan poles
And he is actually good
With the first overall pick the Chicago bears draft… Mitch Trubisky again?!?
The way the Titans feel about Levis is eerily similar to what the Eagles did with Hurts. "You could be the guy, but you weren't a 1st rounder, meaning we don't have to commit to you. So we'll build a team around you. If you succeed, great. If not, the team is built for a 1st round QB next year"
The Raiders absolutely need a QB, but Minshew is perfectly capable of being a stop gap starter while they decide who they want. I can see them drafting someone to sit behind him a year or two.
Michael Penix Jr. to the Raiders in the 2nd. I'm a UW fan, and I think Penix needs a year or two to sit behind someone, and Minshew would make the perfect mentor.
Minshew is better than Penix.
@@cinch1619 yeah I was rooting for UW in the Natty. I will say though Penix feels like he has a lot of raw potential if he is able to live up to it he is easily a top 2 qb coming out of this draft
Colts fan here. Minshew is the perfect 'bridge' QB if the Raiders take McCarthy, Penix, Nix, etc. but I agree they really should draft a guy to learn from Minshew
@@matthewthompson9632 hail to the victors McCarthy will go to Vikings and win next nine super bowls
I liked Anthony Richardson a lot pre-draft but I simply don't see how he isn't in "Too early to tell". He only played 4 games last year where he flashed a lot of potential but still looked pretty raw and was very injury-prone.
Yeah its absolutely too early to tell with him one way or the other. If the Titans are in "too early to tell" which I agree as well, then Indy be default should be.
@@Gungho73 one guy with 7 tds in 12 quarters vs another guy with 9 tds in 9 games. Ill take the guy that was on pace for 40+ TDs
@@dantelabella9753 I think my point was moreso that when you have less then a season of film on these QB's its a lot more difficult to judge them as "the one" or "not your guy." Neither guy should receive the benefit of the doubt as THE Guy, but both teams should be happy at least to have another year of promising young QB's. Also, gonna highly take the 40 TD+ comment with a grain of salt. There's very few QB's who have done that in NFL history, let alone rookies. Lets slow the roll on putting absurd expectations on a rookie like that.
@Gungho73 I think AR belongs in the talent with question marks tier. He played less but showed more talent and potential than Levis did, and the main question with AR is injury.
@@Hannibalzulu77also he couldn’t pass in Florida.
I guess you forgot about the broncos elite new saviour Zach “mother lover” Wilson
dont diss the fax
And now Bo Nix
@@big4sportsnewsofficialyout813nah they’re benching Nix for Wilson
mother lover? more like mamas boy lmaoo
Those who want more longer vids like this 👇
Quit begging for likes. Makes you look like a loser.
As a Browns fan I was expecting total Watson disrespect... But nah that's a valid criticism.
@retrogaminggenesis6102 Wait hold up there are still other Browns fan after trading for him in the first place
@@autisticDementia, some people root for rape, others pretend it never happened to soothe their own conscience.
Like the disrespect he had for those women
Maybe he missed pronounced his name...Massage Watson Texans fan here ✌️
WOW your Atlanta analysis aged beautifully
Putting CJ Stroud and Anthony Richardson in the same tier is insane as one had one of the best rookie years of all time and the other looked solid for 4 games
And above, Trevor Lawrence. Lawrence played last season with 4 different injuries, while Richardson played like 4 game overall? I can see while he doesn't like to put any QB in elite but the jax will pay TLaw sooner or later and he said that he ranks the teams based on how the team evaluate the situation. Oh, yea and he put Herbert in elite which is kinda insane because the chargers had an elite roaster for several years and still were unable to do shit so far.
@@Black4Cook I would honestly be less mad if he put colts in have their guy tier if he was talking about Joe Flacco, but instead he thinks some dude who runs like paralysis isn't permanent is a sustainable franchise qb.
Exactly and even in those 4 games, he didn't really show he can be a great passer.
He did state that this wasn’t a list comparing ability, but rather how the team feels about the player. He’s not saying they’re on the same level, just that the team is behind them.
@@alexhohl8530 but than the list doesn't make sense why TLaw is lower. Team is behind him and wants to play him.
Broncos went from willson to willson lol
Where did the second l come from in Wilson?
@Meerkat2112 the second L came from them trading for Zach Wilson 🤣
@@LordWafflestomp lol well played.
9:08 rich gannon fits this situation. QB that nobody cares about that randomly took the next step. arguably, a bigger step than Geno did
Not arguably at all. Dude won an MVP, and made a super bowl.
Also Steve Young.
@@nevets1726, Steve Young was (eventually) an outright stud QB though. Smith and Gannon (excellent call!) are/were more in the 'game manager' role (along with Purdy, if we are being honest). Not saying they can't win the metal and a ton of games, only saying that the actual physical traits of what people associate with top-tier QBing are not quite the same. Young was bad on a HORRIBLE Tampa Bay team, then sitting behind probably still the best in-game quarterback ever (Montana, actual fans do not count Brady playing in a system that cheated their way to everything they did). So much so that Young basically forced the 49ers to move off of Montana, who clearly still had stuff left in the tank. Nobody moved a HoFer for Gannon or Smith (or Purdy).
@@nevets1726 as a Tampa Bay fan myself, screw Steve Young lol. granted, those were the worst of the worst days for Tampa so I don't entirely blame him
@@cynicallydepressed1 you had me for 90% of this but then lost me with the Brady comment. just because he beat your favorite team in blowout fashion doesn't mean he cheated. won trophies with two completely different teams (go Bucs, btw)
Do more longer content like this man, you're awesome making CT proud!
There is only three I disagree with, chargers need to come down and fins need to come up. I wouldn't call either elite but they are good and the team shows no sign of relocating them. And it's going to be controversial (potential) but Brock does not get nearly enough respect and should be considered elite.
Agreed with all 3
yes
Was about to comment something similar
Agreed. Herbert cant be elite for the same reason Goff isnt. Im not saying Goff should be elite either. But if Herbert needs a better team to be elite then that doesnt fit the title of elite imo
I was with you until you brought up Brock.
Plz do more long form content, i love this content
one of those Shorts converts into a subscription here. Man, that was actually an excellent look into the QB status of each team. Well presented and concise. I hope you do a lot more long form content going forward.
this is a great list I agree with pretty much everyone except two things. 1) the colts belong in the “too early to tell” slot and 2) Justin Herbert is in the same tier as CJ stroud and Jordan love because he has not yet become elite but he will soon be.
I can't agree with Herbert in the elite tier. Not yet. And it's tough to tell what Richardson is going to do for Indy after only a few games. But other than that - you were right down the line, most of this aged beautifully, and I give you all that credit. Love that you called the Atlanta pick right out of the gate! Nice job!
Herbert will prove himself this year I hope, even though jim likes to run more, but hes more than an amazing qb and would PROBABLY win a ring with any other roster
@lazy_858 I absolutely think that he can be in that elite tier. He certainly has the skills. But I haven't quite seen it yet, and yes - he might have taken that last step up on a different roster. Looking forward to this year!
@@tommiegirl2441 never the less, cant wait for next season
I like watching this after the 1st round when six QBs were taken, including Atlanta grabbing one despite Cousins.
Every one watching before the nfl draft 👇
Bengals are selecting Johnny Newton mark my words i’ll check in after the draft
I’m calling it Spencer Rattler goes first
@@cjm9816 i’ll cash app you 20$ if it happens
Packers are foaming at the mouth looking at Cooper Dejean 💀
That's literally everyone, because the draft hasn't happened yet
Baltimore fan here, I love watching Burrow play he's amazingly good at football its so clear, it's true he got put in a tough situation in Cincinnati but they love him and he saved them no doubt, it's just a tough division, conference. Best of luck this year Bengals!
Bengals D has carried Burrow. He's a good QB but he's a little better then a .500 AB at this point for a reason... jes has some of the best WR talent in the league for multiple years now... and nothing to show for it.
@@lakeozarkrei3767 the reason is injuries, I'm not going to debate burrows' abilities with you. I just like watching him play.
@devinm9245 I'm not saying he's not a good QB... he is. Just not elite like a lot of people think for some reason. His stats, regular season and especially playoff, back that up. And that's with arguably the top WR trio in the league.
@lakeozarkrei3767 what stats are you referring to. Because Lamar isn't elite at the qb position and burrow has better stats
@JohnDoe-xp6oh Exactly... Lamars an 'elite' runner... but not QB. In 7 career playoff games Burrow has 9 td passes and 4 ints. That's mediocre at best. His biggest win in the AFC Championship game was only because of Mahomes only playoff meltdown... and the Bengals D.
You should do a video where you rank team where if you put the exact same QB on every team who would be the best
That would be the 49ers or Bengals everyone else fell off this off-season.
@@cameronzwicke5761?
Tbh, if we’re being honest, I think Herbert should be a tier down and Tua should be in the same tier as him. Herb obviously has the physical gifts and wows you, hence the typical bias despite the losing record. And Tua went wild last season after the previous season of constant concussions, even being mentioned in the MVP conversation. I think he is under appreciated because he doesn’t throw the ball 70+ yards. But for some reason the dude whoops the ravens in a wild comeback for 6 TDs and gets zero credit.
The Tua hate is wild in this video. How is he ranked behind Jordan Love (who has just played one season), Anthony Richardson who played a whopping 4 games, and Purdy who puts up great stats just like him cause of his weapons. Two years ago Tua led the NFL in rating, and last year in yards. Also Herbert has won anything, and hasn't gotten better since his rookie season. He has had so many chances to bring his team back in a game with the last possession and failed to do so. Despite having the "rocket" arm, his career yards per attempt is 7.1 and Tua is 7.7 (including the years Flores held him back)
This is what happens when pats fans make videos. Pure hatred.
Just a thought, it would be cool if you do this list again at the half way mark of the season and then at the end of the season to see if the QBs change your mind. By the way love all your content. Keep it coming. Love th QB club stuff too.
Can’t wait to see my Steelers this year 🎉🎉🎉
Hopefully they are good
@@orangeduckduck2996 dont put money on it
Damn I didn’t know you did long form content this was actually really entertaining
Benchwarmerbran is a goat
So true
I'm not sure that Herbert is elite. He's paid like one, but to only have one playoff appearance, a wild card round loss at that... All the other elites got to the conference championship game at least.
watch the film buddy
@@jaymelnick21 there ain't a whole lotta winning in that film buddy
I really don’t think you know ball because similar to Josh Allen, it’s never been his fault that he doesn’t have success
You have to take into account he plays for the chargers. The chargers are the type of team that could rank #1 in offense, defense and special teams and somehow finish 8-9.
@@mattwallace2221 💀
So, all the elite quarterbacks, except one, are in the AFC.
It certainly looks that way.
Yeah that's been a thing for a couple seasons now. AFC has the better QB situation but that just happens sometimes I think.
It feels like nfc have better overall teams but afc has better QBs somehow. Like mahomes is much better than hurts but the eagles have a better roster than the chiefs
brock purdy should be elite
NFC is top heavy with teams that have great rostees top to bottom. AFC has most of the great QBs.
Bears never have “their guy”💀
Actually, they often have 'their guy', it's just that 'their guy' often isn't very good at the footballing. Really, for a long time, they were probably worse at getting good coaching, or it being stable. Poles sees that, it seems, and even though he (had to) launch(ed) Luke Getsy, he kept Eberflus, despite some calls to start over (again). Poles isn't perfect, but few GMs are, and he is definitely better than the past few the Bears have had.
Sure they do! They always do…until he has a bad game or two and all the media and fans call for their heads…Being a Bears fan makes me sad.lol
Richardson should be in the too early to tell category based on that injury track record but I can see your logic, but I feel like Houston definitely feels like CJ is in elite tier and I think he might genuinely also be in elite category as well. He didn’t have the same kind of mid season struggles and then rebound that Love went through, he kind of stayed incredibly solid and consistent - like Herbert but with more team Ws.
Bro I love this vid
You said it right. The Falcons have Kirk Cousins but took Micheal Penix for development and when Kirk gets injured
Let's go!!! Another long form vid!!!
Please d another madden video it was great!!!
He called every situation on the money. Penix/Atlanta McCarthy/Vikings Nix/Broncos before the draft. Bravo!!!🙌
The falcons one is so funny now
As a Bears fan, I was actually sort of hoping Poles would shock everyone, trade down one or two spots, grab a different QB but get the picks to finish the rebuild in this draft alone...but man, if he does that you'd have to chug a full bottle of hot sauce, so...not sure I want to see him do that now lol
Washington gives the earlier of those two second rounders for Caleb and y'all take Drake or Jayden and that's kind of a W
@@kimyona9746 I tend to agree, if we got anything else on top of that, it would be a huge W but I don't think it's going to happen. I think there are a few QB's in this draft who could be good fits and improve the team overall, but pretty sure they're taking Caleb at 1
Pretty good list! 👍
Rich Gannon is the only Geno Smith parallel that I could think of. I was also thinking of Steve DeBerg but he was more of the Gardner Minshew super-backup type. He was never the guy but he was always capable of leading good teams when needed.
For some reason my brain wants to add Jeff Garcia to the mix of this discussion. Not a longterm starter, but capable enough to play with good teams.
@@Gungho73 Less of an NFL journeyman going through the CFL first but definitely shot out of a cannon when he did get his chance so I'll allow it.
People who r here after the falcons got Micheal Penix jr.
Yea
Hahahahhaha falcons drafting Michael Penix is HILARIOUS
Is it still funny
Agreed, Tua is in a perfect system that works for him, but would need someone to take this team one more step to become an elite team.
I'd put Seattle in the bottom tier. Geno not being terrible AT THE END OF HIS CAREER ... means they need to replace him much sooner than later. He's in no way a viable option going forward.
sam Howell can learn behind him
Sam Howell has potential to be great. Not everyone can crack the top 5 in passing yards for a season.
This is hilarious watching this after the draft 😂
I think if you have Herbert in the elite category you move jags up to have their guy. The same issues that plague the chargers are what plague the jaguars. He for sure has question marks but I don’t think they move from him
would to see a video ranking new jerseys
It’s crazy how he straight up predicted the Falcons drafting a QB even though it was the shock of the draft
I LOVE the spot for the Colts. You could have def put them a tier lower, but I was so nervous you'd put us in too early to tell We can tell. He's a DAWG. Perfect mix between Josh Allen and Lamar, just needs to stay healthy and learn to slide
Do this again after the draft too please.
1:58 u predicted it😂
Coming back after the draft and hearing the falcons part is hilarious
Lets go MY Fav youtuber
Oh the falcons were looking alright! As a Packers fan I agree! I full on think Love will be an elite player, but he’s only had one year. You have to give him a little bit more time, but I’m not worried about him, he has shown a lot of promise with the Packers! Our QB trend is looking to continue!
As a Raiders fan, hearing the saints don’t have their guy still kinda hurts my heart as well. Derek Carr can still be that guy.
here after the draft and crazy what the falcons did as you just spoke about it
You called it on ATL. They definitely got a QB this draft. 😂
You nailed the Denver and Minnesota picks. Also Washington and New England (no surprises there) !
I would only change 2 things. 1st, change the bottom tier to A Draft, noy The Draft. Seems less imminent since 8 teams aren't likely getting starting options in this draft. Two, drop the Eagles a tier. Jalen regressed a lot with the chage kn in OC last season, and I am not sold on him getting back to 2022 form.
Putting TLaw below Stroud is insane. Dude needs a numbers check. TLaw is a top 5 QB and it's not up for debate.
As a Bears fan, the fact that their are Tyson Bagent “truthers” makes me think we have one dumbest fan bases when it comes to QBs. 🙄
finaly some long form content
as a proud Cardinals fan, i can’t even disagree with Bran’s statements . i never can really . he’s always accurate and his research is always on point 💯🤝🏽
While the contract of Kirk Cousins doesn’t make sense the signing of Penix fits perfectly with what you said. The pick is honestly growing on me even if he is an older qb.
Sam Darnold breakout inbound
Not anymore
Awesome video, I would disagree about Jacksonville and Miami I think they feel like they have their guy but very good assessment
Right on the money!!! Penix at 8 was a pretty slick deduction, and the Bo nix one too!!! Damn you was cooking🙆🏽♂️ vikings nd JJ☠️☠️ brother where was you hiding the script!!!!
Sam Howell showed enough positive flashes last season that I would not be surprised if by mid season he’s the starter in Seattle. Now that he’s in a much better situation and won’t be running for his life behind an atrocious line I think he’ll perform much better.
Watching this after the first round and this was pretty spot on. The only difference is the giants seem pretty confident in their qb after drafting an o lineman, the raiders just couldn’t really draft a qb bc all the good ones were taken and the falcons decided to draft penix so they must have a lot of questions😂
As a giants fan I wouldn’t necessarily say that the giants feel like Daniel Jones is their guy. However, they want to make sure that whoever comes in next year will have a chance to actually compete, kinda like what the bears are doing for Caleb
@@quantumchaos7549 that's probably true lol. Ig my point was just that everyone who drafted a qb fell under bran's categories of people who needed a qb. And keep in mind my opinion isn't very well educated either lol
You and Florio are the ONLY people I know of who even gave thought to a QB for Atlanta. Still We have a New "Oakland Raider" draft team (Oakland aka during draft ChOakland). Oakland was actually normal this year but this Atlanta pick is a level stupid that just makes me laugh. I'm still laughing.
I would switch Colts and Jags since my only question with Richardson is can his talent convert hes a crazy but is too raw
Personally, as a Colts fan, I think it would have been reasonable to put us in Tier 3. AR is our guy for sure but I won't be 100% confident til I see an extended stretch of healthy play
Colts have their guy but the Titans are too early to tell? Make it make sense
As a die hard rams fan Stafford is elite. The moves and actions the Rams are making are another SB window to let Stafford retire with multiple rings. Then theyll worry about QB but from what i see the Rams are putting all their chips in Stafford
Great rankings! Think Fields will do much better with a steady coach and solid depth around him. He'll be starting by week 4.
yea, because russ sucks, then by week 9 after fields went 1-3, they will start kyle allen
How is Brock Purdy under Hurts? Or Herbert? What stat can you point to?
Kurt Warner is an example of a Geno like resurgence
How you putting AR above Levi’s ? How can you have your gut with 4 games played ?
The Bears never learned how to develop QB’s even when they had one in Justin Fields right in their lap. They got rid of him because he wasn’t playing like Tom Brady which is ludicrous!
I think the Bears really screwed Fields over. The Bear’s had very little talent Fields first year. Fields second year was Ryan Poles first and Poles gutted the team, so even less talent. His third year and first time with #1 receiver and Moore had a career year. Fields made improvements every year. But, there are two reasons the Bears are moving on. 1st, luckily because of the Panthers trade they have the #1 pick with a consensus number one QB (and thus believes has a higher ceiling). If they only had their #9 pick, they would be sticking with Fields and not attempting to move up for a QB. 2nd it resets the rookie QB contract window.
@@rickallen848 that’s still not a good reason to firstly trade him and have a unknown at QB who is going to bust in my opinion and they could have gotten Harrison Jr and continued to build around him. It’s things like this plus the turmoil the bears have done is why they will never have a good QB when they ruin the best one they had in a long while
@@darnell16player It’s the reasoning that they are using, time will tell if it is the best or not. However, I’m in your camp, I would have preferred to trade the #1 pick for a haul and believe that would have made for better future teams. I also believe Poles is a little worried what his legacy would be if he passed up Stroud and Williams (if he meets the predictions). I’d also be ROTFLMAO if Fields takes the Steelers to the SB…. Poles would be having Steelers trade nightmare for the rest of his life.
@rickallen848 you're right on that but its also just a revolving door at QB. I'm a Pats fan and the reason why I was against drafting Maye at #3 was just that, there's no team to develop a QB properly. The Bears and Pats did no favors for Fields and Jones and are just throwing things at the wall hoping one sticks. The Bears have at least done some work to build a franchise, but at what cost really? Williams is touted as the best generational talent, but he couldn't elevate USC to a legit contender and constantly fell short against the ranked DI teams in college. Now, he is a division that has quality defenses time will tell but personally it was bad move.
Baltimore Ravens fan here, and I agree with all the top 2 tiers.
The Commanders better not fumble the pick
LIONS PRIDE WHERE YOU AT
bang bang niner gang
I’m here post first round, looks like the falcons believed they were in the bottom tier.
Let’s gooooooo love your videos
About time someone put respect on Jalen Hurts name. Recency bias is disgusting. He’s agile, can throw, has a nice deep ball.
After watching the 1st 2 minutes, you literally rank the Falcons in the not sure area of the chart. Penix was a great pick... I knew you backed it. They probably called you Great video btw
People here after the draft
The only question marks surrounding Tua are the ones next to the little birdies floating around his head constantly, dudes CTE next season is gonna have him throwing at his own end zone next season
The fact that you called the Falcons drafting a new QB when all of the pundits were blown away by the decision speaks volumes.
Love this tier list. One thing I would change is moving Herbert to “have their guy”.
Both the Broncos and Vikings needing a QB and are side by side in pick order is rough.
Closest example I can think of to the Geno Smith situation is Rich Gannon in the late 1990s.
Neither Herbert nor Hurts are elite. One had 1 good season and 2 playoff wins against qb less units, and the other couldn't put away the Jaguars while up by 30 in the playoffs.
As a delusional Titans fan who sat through years of trotting out... One moment... Zach Mettenberger, Jake Locker, & Charlie Whitehurst (same season) that was a spot on assessment sir
Bears don’t draft Caleb Williams I’m begging you
Why? He’s so good
...for the hot sauce?
I’m willing to see the Bears be bad for another season just to get some torture out of Brian
Galdern that AI football field at 00:34 is something to behold, for sure.
I think the 2 Denver based Brandons need to team up!