MCU Iron Spider SUCKS & how Marvel RUINS classic costumes
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Hot take: I actually like the iron spider in the mcu. Like I don't really see how it's overdesigned since there's less lines than the stark suit, and the lines on the knees and shoulders actually makes sesne since they could be for extra movement. I also have no problem with the lights since ironman during that time also had lights around his suit. Laslty I just don't see how the suit being cgi is an issue. It's literally a skintight nanotech suit with no wrinkles in it. That's impossible to be made practically
I would argue that both of these have the same amount of lines, but the homecoming suit is a slightly edited classic suit, which automatically boosts it up in quality. While the leg lines may have a use, that doesn't mean that they automatically work into the design. I didn't think about the LEDs that way, that does make them much more tolerable. The suit being CGI is particularly an issue for me because I enjoy the costume making side of super hero movies, and removing that element really takes the fun out of it for me. You could always CGI around a practical suit too, if the suit was real, and Tom only had the mask off, they could have the nanotech CGI come in, then have him wearing the real mask in the next shot.
@@amazingpsm I kinda see your point, but I just think fabric wouldn't work for this iron spider outfit. Metal has this certain feel and look to it. It's supposed have this heft and look very protective, which can't really be replicated with fabric. No matter how shiny or how much details you put into it, it will still come off across as just shiny fabric, and not this protective armor, which would be more apparent when the suit is next to iron man. I also think having panel lines throughout a suit, especially if it's armored is a must because it adds this layered feel to it, just like how actual armor looks irl. Without it, especially it's a metallic suit, it can make it look sort of uncanny and fake, especially without the wrinkles in the suit. Even the classic iron spider in spiderman ps4 has a lot of panel lines. The reason why the iron spider suit in the comics works so well is because of how it's drawn. It has a lot of shading variety and muscle detail, which adds this angular and sleek look to it, which can't be replicated irl. For me personally, I see panel lining as shading for live action costumes
@@Optimus_Prime_2007 I kinda disagree. Yes for costumes thst are meant to be fabric, but no for costumes that are metallic or organic looking. If you made the iron spider suit fabric, it would just look like shiny fabric instead of an armor, and if you were to make the symbiote suit fabric, it would lose that other worldly and organic nature to it
Same
@@Optimus_Prime_2007 my point still stands though. Even if you used other materials it can't capture the feel of certain costumes that are organic or metallic without at least some cgi
You failed to mention how insomniac made a more faithful iron spider than Marvel Studios
I don't really like the insomniac's Iron spider it has to many details in my opinion like the line on the face
@@girafael9755 I’ll take an Iron Spider suit with similar details to the Iron Man Mk. 50 over Metal Spider-Man with glowy bits everywhere
Anti-Ock suit will forever be 🔥
Love that suit
@@girafael9755 Imo the details in Insomniac's version of classic stark iron spider is a lot more subtle compared to MCU.
What makes me mad is that in NWH the integrated suit had a big gold spider in the front and that just shows what we could’ve had.
Exactly Imo I’m guessing that suit was an apology for them messing up the iron spider and trying to give us a closer looking version of it
Tbh integrated suit looked ugly in some scenes
I think honestly a big part of the reason they changed it is because execs thought if tom holland "didnt look like spiderman" throughout most of the movie then regular viewers would be confused or upset. Like I think people are starting to forget that superhero movies original intent was to be *adaptations* of superhero comics onto the big screen, not just its own genre for the sake of it. You can make a movie good for general audiences without taking away all the unique comic material that made comics fun in the first place
🤣 what a nonsense idea. It’s nothing to do with confusion it’s clearly just a mash-up of the Sensational Spider-Man and the Iron-Spider suit
Facts
@@au6769 do not under estimate how stupid people can be.
Yeah that’s my line of thinking for making the MCU Iron Spider look like a more traditional design but shiny and high tech. I think it’s the iconography of seeing Spidey in one of the most important moments of the franchise’s history (the endgame battle) so they want him to look like a more easily recognizable Spider-Man as opposed to the comic accurate version of the iron spider. Like what I could’ve seen happening to incorporate the comic iron spider suit into Endgame and then Far From Home is in an extended battle, we see some of Peter’s suit get destroyed throughout the battle, then Tony swoops in and transfuses some of his nanotech suit into Peter’s, giving it more gold and it kinda of morphing into the purely red and gold Iron Spider suit. It could even be that Tony is more injured after his snap bc of the armor he transfused to Peter, making him feel even guiltier about Tony’s death. Then Peter keeps that suit for the beginning of Far From Home, and everyone calling him the next iron man makes sense, but Peter was keeping the suit as a sentimental thing bc Tony literally transfused his nanotech into that suit and has survivor’s guilt
@@au6769No this is very likely the reason why they made it look more like his normal suit. Almost every person watching the movie in theatres doesn’t read comics or even has a clue about the iron spider suit. This suit would have made him look to much like iron man for casual viewers.
I always thought there was a missed opportunity from the very start for Spider-Man, one that would have prevented most complaints about Tom Holland’s version of Peter. When looking around Peter’s room in Civil War, Tony should have come across various sketches, equations, and blueprint designs for the Spider-Man outfit, nanotechnology, moving lenses, advanced web shooters, and other iconic Spider-Man equipment. He could say something like “are these your drawings” and Peter would start to try and hide them and play dumb, saying “I’m just a big fan of Spider-Man”. This quick five second exchange would not only make Peter seem more like a genius, but would also remove the idea that everything Spider-Man has came from Tony Stark. Instead, Peter was indeed the one to create his technology, but just didn’t have the funds or access to technology to make them happen. Then, Tony could help Peter make his vision a reality, but in the end, the suit was always Peter’s idea. This would also make a lot more sense for a realistic Spider-Man story arc. In all seriousness, how can Peter in the comics, a poor kid from queens, create such advanced web shooters and costumes on his own? By having Stark Industries provide the funds, it would have made more sense, while keeping the fundamental idea that Peter Parker created his own suit.
Holy shit you fixed everything wrong wrong with mcu Peter.
Jesus loves you Jesus loves you
@@ghoste4370 He fucking nailed it! I’ve always liked MCU Spider-Man but this minuscule thing would’ve made a massive difference. Probably why rushing Spider-Man into Civil War wasn’t the best idea.
I have always said this too, when Tony says the whole 'top to bottom restoration' line, Peter gives him a notebook with sketches for how he'd like his suit to look, or a web shooter ver. 2 or something along those lines, maybe spider tracers and stuff as well. Tony could add his own bells and whistles, sure. But Peter is who came up with the red and blue.
I love how Insomniac's Spider-Man opening cutscenes is literally like what you are describing. Insomniac > MCU
The original iron spider is my favorite spidey suit, so I can’t wait to see your thoughts on it
The suit is easily the ugliest Spiderman suit
@@markellerodgers8830 the new one or the old one?
The original Iron Spider suit is cool not because it looks like/has the colors of Iron Man, but because no matter what, Tony Stark made the suit regardless, I also hope Marvel can make a very comic accurate version of the Symbiote costume in future MCU Spidey films
I like the webs on the MCU version and do like shape of spider but would prefer if combined both. If they made the logo fully gold, eyes gold and gotten rid of the blue I would like it
Which is crazy, because the concept art for this suit has exactly what you're describing and it looks 15 times better
@@Vegitodraws I know it sucks
Here, take the integrated suit, remove the black, that’s it, thats literally it
@@playstation.e7703 although it should look metal, not complete cgi but the aid of cgi, with golden eyes
Why don't we just put Peter in a red onesie and have gold duct tape over the top why do people like the iron spider suit I liked it in the Marvel Spider-Man PS4 game cuz it had actual details that made it look like a suit of armor but even then in that game it looked like some sort of nanite suit
What's sad is that in-universe in the MCU itself, Tony Stark is the one who made the "classic design" to begin with so even in-universe, I imagined Tony couldn't be in his right mind to be able to design the comic accurate version when he could just update from the design he had for the other suit to begin with. So the design process for the comics version is "How would Tony make a Spider-Man suit" vs the MCU's "How would Tony update his own take on the classic suit to be armored"
Izzu Ziq yeah pretty sad, always hated that, it makes sense that peter isn't a design whiz but cmon it lowkey ruins his character, that's why I hoped when he made the final NWH suit it'd be the unused civil war design or use the logo from the homemade suit (aka the todd macfarlane looking one). But what they went with was good. At least the homemade suit exists. it does make sense stark would make the spider-man suit but at least not the eyes.
Exactly ,Tony the one who Made a classic instead Peter is so stupid ,Peter is should be the one who design that type of design ,it ruin the character lowkey
It was so confusing for me. I couldn't understand why he wouldn't like Tony's new suit for him if the previous suit came from Tony and the new one still looks like an armored but traditional red/blue spider suit. None of the gravity of Spider-Man rejecting Ironman landed on me.
So, I actually ended up seeing homecoming on opening day. Approaching the end of the movie, I thought, “Hey, it looks like Tony is gonna recruit Peter to be a full-fledged Avenger! OH CRAP! That probably means we’re gonna get an Iron-Spider suit!” I was hyping myself up IMMENSELY for the reveal, chatting with my cousins who were seeing it with me, just all around excitement. Then the suit appeared. The first words out of my mouth were, “That’s not the Iron-Spider suit. I have no idea what that is, but it’s not what I thought it was.” Turns out that I was wrong, and THAT was supposed to be the suit I was so excited for. I felt a bit like the meme of that British kid trying the Popeyes chicken sandwich for the first time, “I am tremendously disappointed, and my day is ruined.”
You know what other meme this feels like? "Reus? Let's go that's class"
I felt the same way, I went with my brother and cousins and I remember seeing the suit at the end and being like, "The f*ck is that?" I didn't even realize it was the iron spider suit until I saw a CBR article, and one of the first lines was, "Fans will immediately recognize this as the iron spider suit" I was just sitting there thinking to myself like, you sure about that?
That guy isn’t even British lol
@@user-pd9xj1bt4e nor is he a kid
that’s actually crazy cause i saw it the day after it came out and as soon as i saw the suit i thought “omg it’s the iron spider suit” lmao
The COMIC iron spider suit will forever be on some king shit. My only complaint with that suit is that for some reason there’s only 3 waldoes… my current headcannon is that stark was cheeping out.
Agreed.
Comic iron spider suit with 4 spider arm/waldoes would been so hard
i'm pretty sure he gets a 4th later on
MCU Iron Spider is more akin to the Spider-armour Mk5 (Parker Industries suit). The Insomnaic version of the classic armour is the best version. Perfect balance of slightly bulk armour which with a streamlined aesthetic, a hint of an arc reactor the blends into the logo, great paneling that makes sense. If the MCU wanted Peter to stand out as more of an individual during Infinity War while wearing the armour, they could have added black paneling to semi-replicate the classic structure while still retaining the Iron Spider aesthetic Edit: Mk4 armour
Mk4 you mean?
it's a combination of many suits in my opinion, I listed them all in a comment
I wish they used the MCU iron spider-man suit more sparingly and not like in every spider-man movie
When I first saw this suit while watching the movie on cinemas, I didn't even think about it being the iron spider. I think this whole problem could have been avoided by just making it it's own suit, with a different name or function or something
It was more inevitable than Thanos. The intent of the suit in the movies is still representative of Tony Stark's influence over Spider-man, but executed terribly. Changing the name wouldn't help.
I used to like the MCU Iron Spider suit and dislike the Comic one because the MCU one looked more like the normal suit. But now I don't like the MCU Iron Spider suit because it is so bland and is just a more complex version of the normal suit. Whereas the comic suit looks memorable, unique, and cool despite its simplicity. I didn't even think of how using the comic suit would work better for the narrative like you said but it does.
Narrative or not, you're not going to get the exact same simplistic design to stand out properly in the film as CGI. Carson's like that or really any costume in general for any character of all the signs can work way better in the art style of comic books or even computer graphics for games and they would in films as actual physical assets or CGI. If there's one good thing you can say about the actual film suit is that it actually looks like armor. It actually stands out well on film with all that CGI and actually looks like armor. You cannot make a skin suit out of fabric look like armor no matter how hard you try. At least not metal armor. Technically speaking if the writers want to they could make something up to where maybe Tony use some special bulletproof advanced fabric. I mean it's not like we don't have some of those in real life. And a man likes Tony Stark could definitely make something like that probably way more advanced. But the thing about the soon as it needs to be skin tight while still being metal armor. It is an iron suit made by iron Man of all people of course. No I could understand still having your gropes with the design. But my point being is the part where it's supposed to look like a metal suit. Made by the metal suit man himself. And that was not going to translate well with the design everybody wanted. Of course that works in the comic books with the art design. That's not a suit made out of metal. Or at the very least it doesn't look like it. And there's no way that's going to translate well even on the comic books. At least not without the popcorn designer. And partially what makes it look like an actual mechanic suit is not making it so skin tights where you can see the muscles. You tell me and real life what type of medicine would be able to do that? That would also be very very pointless to have a suit perfectly match your muscles when at any time they can grow from all the working out you would do in training or shrink if you stood out of the game for too long. Like you guys are not really thinking about this suit at all beyond just up it's cosmetic look. And even then you're not thinking that much about the cosmetic look at all. again, the color scheme and whatnot I can still understand not liking it. My only point is that it's supposed to look metallic. Not like a fabric suit. You're not going to get the same suit from the comic books and expect it to look right when it's supposed to be a metallic suit. Metallic suits do not reveal your muscles. Metallic suits aren't perfectly shape for your body like a skin tight outfit. And it suit like this for a Spider-Man it's supposed to be very flexible for him well again still staying a metallic nanotech suit
I think what’s annoying is that the integrated suit (or whatever that suit he has during the final battle) from NWH would’ve honestly been a better Iron Spider suit
I always thought that switching back into the civil war/homecoming suit would’ve been a more character driven change at the final battle of NWH considering he was accused of murder and people were treating him like a menace. In the comics Peter changes the black parts of his costume to blue so he could look LESS MENACING AND MORE FRIENDLY but the studio decided to make a entirely new costume to sell toys.
The mcu "iron spider" design looks kinda cool, but i ain't calling it an iron spider, it looks nothing like the comics version
The most painful part of this is that the integrated suit looks like a better adaptation than the actual iron spider
So true
Not really, MCU just complete ass
@@ventusvanitas7544 agree to disagree
@@alexnewby2004 k basic normie
@@ventusvanitas7544 how so?
I think it’s a cool suit imo. I think the og suit looks better and I like it more. But I don’t think this one’s bad.
I don't hate it but the comic one is better
Every youtuber over exaggerates what they call bad sadly
@@ultamatejoker8282 Its really not a big deal for people to overreact shit like this when its not hurting anyone..
What’s funny to me is, the iron spider suit in the comics is red and gold, like Tony’s iron man suit, yet Tom’s version is called “iron boy jr”. Tom keeps his Spiderman identity with his version of the iron spider, unique from Tony, yet the one from the comic is the one everyone wants, the literal iron man 2.0 suit. I get maybe Tom’s has too much going on but I actually really like it. That is distinctively spiderman
A lot of people forget that Spider-Man has always had a gliding feature whether it be from the web wings on his outfit which are shown in the first movie which is awesome or the fact that he can shape his actual web fluid into a glider and glide along or even just make a wet parachute that last in the float for a little while so the fact that the iron spider suit doesn't actually have its thrusters is the big problem for me since they already showed that Spider-Man does utilize gliding in the MCU
I suppose they were trying to differentiate him from Ironman, as you said it looks more like a powered up Spider-Man suit as he is trying to stand out and be seperate from him However you are right, the ending of Homecoming would have hit much harder if it was a comic-accurate IRON Spider, with Peter turning the offer down to be a friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man Edit: I’m still kinda dissapointed that this is the suit we got dispute it debuting a while ago now Like c’mon just give us a shiny red and gold suit with no weird shades of blue in there please…
Imagine spider man creating comic accurate iron spider suit as seen in the ps4 in memory of stark and then after realising it inhibits his acrobatics makes it nano teach...... Like mark 85.....which doesnt look nanotech after fully assembling
I was under the impression the costume designers were incapable of replicating the Iron-Spider design from the comics. Either that or they thought making it look like Spider-Man's regular suit would make it accessible to the casual movie goer.
Awesome video and breakdown. I find it really interesting how one of your criticisms is that it looks less Ironman inspired and I saw another creator saying they liked that the redesign makes it more of a Spider-Man suit. I suppose a lot of it depends on what perspective you’re looking at the suit from
We need a full suit tutorial please!
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I agree. The comic iron spider looks times better then the mcu version. But in there perspective, i kinda get why they didn't really picked the more accurate designs. Because Tony made also the homecoming suit, and it makes sense that he would incorporates most of the elements of his own red and blue design on the iron spider suit. But still, it would have bin visually more of an impact if it was more like the comic suit, Because then you could see the huge contrast of being a member of the Avengers. Or being that friendly neighborhood Spider-Man, who doesn't need all the tech in the world.
cap the comic version doesn't even look like something spider-man would wear it looks like spider-man trying to ripoff iron man
@@efejaymabs4200 ok
@@springblastyanimations1104 it's not even ironbou jr it's discount iron man
@@efejaymabs4200That is kinda point. Especially if it was incorporated into the mcu.
I remember seeing the suit at the end of spider-man hoemcoming, and it looks different. It looks more like cloth with metal parts, not full on cgi metal like it does in other movies. I also heard the gold and black suit from no way home was originally a concept for the iron spider suit so that could make sense. also, every fan edit where the iron spider is recolored to look like the comic always slaps harder than the movie lol. sad when fortnite has better suits than the movies
Hyped for this video since I've been watching Kai since the Raimi suit video. Now we're here
By the way the LEDs on the belt are actually a follow-up to the spider signal from the end of homecoming they're probably there to project it just like Spider-Man would sometimes do in the comics (also like Pizza Time said the LEDs are more to go in line with iron Man's current outfit)
he wore it a lot in the movies, would be weird if it didn't have aspects of the normal spider-man desgin
Or maybe, just don't wear it a lot.
@@nofacedgoldfish6216 yeah, they probably should've blew it up in far from home
@@ro1real Agreed.
The one thing the MCU Iron-Spider does better than the comic version is have four spider legs instead of three.
I think they did this design since he was paired with Tony in infinity war who was using mark 50 which has a lot of red on its design and could have been hard to identify from each other in moving action scenes when if two of them had the same color scheme
It looks like the Sensational suit and Spider Armor mk 4 mixed together
I didn't like this suit initially but it dud grow on me as time went on. But I definitely understand your grievances with it.
At least it has 4 spider legs instead of just 3
only thing it does better
@Probably Spider-Man I actually like the MCU iron spider as it's own design sure when compared to the original it stinks but juged on it's own merits it's a pretty cool design I just wish it wasn't so overused
When homecoming dropped, I had no idea it was supposed to be the Iron Spider until like infinity war or something.
Well I always saw the Iron spider suit(comic ver.) as something of a metaphor in civil war, like peter first chooses iron mans side and that suit has the original color patern as iron man, red and gold, and when he goes with Captain Americas side he takes it off. It's like Peter choses what hero he wants to be and not what the others want him to be. In the MCU the iron spider suit its his official avenger suit and not his iron man team suit, and maybe Tony made it look like that because well yes he was Peter mentor and he doesn't want Peter to do the same mistakes as he did. Tony wanted Peter to be his own hero, Spiderman, and not the hero who is mentoring him, Iron man.
They only have to paint the Spider with and change the blue parts with red. Even they can do it between Homecomming and Infinity War with the excuse that Tony was working on it after he rejected it.
I kinda like the look. Also the reason they didn't go with the comic look is because spidey would be wearing it in 2 of the biggest films of all time and it was his first avenger film so they wanted him to look kinda like classic spidey. If it was just for one film that was smaller than the biggest event films ever made they would have done the classic suit
Then they should of never made him wear the Iron Spider suit.
@@spider-man500 he should have been wearing his homecoming suit or a more classic suit in NWH. The integrated suit is straight ass
My least favourite part of the mcu iron spider is the blue. It’s such a weird colour that people still argue whether it was black or blue or grey when most of the time it just looks like an impossibly reflective mud colour
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I think you should review the Insomniac redesigns at some point.
I like both, but considering he wears the Iron Spider or a variant of it for a lot of his MCU screentime it makes sense to me personally that they would want it to more closely resemble the regular Spider-Man costume whilst still retaining the armoured look
I don't mind the suit being CG, but for me the problem is the colors and emblem.
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Thank you! Thank you so much for bringing this up, especially for wolverine, my favorite marvel character. You have no idea how long I'lve been waiting for someone to have the same point of view as me and finally adressing this issue. Seriously, I hate most of the fox movies for many reasons and that is one of them, the fact that there are no comic accurate costumes. But yeah, I agree with your point on the Iron Spider suit.
I think they've done a good job at turning the old iron spider suit (which i prefer) into the mcu one. I feel like the mcu version fits better in its environment than the comic version. Just imagine the comic version irl. It's a little hard. The main reason for me is that the comic iron spider doesn't have any gaps like the iron man suits do in the movies.
Insomniac Iron spider: Hey i'm looking better than you! MCU Iron Spider: What?
I watched a video not too long ago on the CW comic book and If remember Tony gave him the suit bc he wanted him to join his side and also wanted him to call him boss and Pete and his family was being protected by him so I think the suit represented that narcissist ego that Tony had. Especially because after Pete doesn’t want to be in his side of the war he went back to his OG. In Homecoming Tony understood and realized he had the potential after stopping Vulture, which is why it resembled his suit that Tony made him.
By taking away the webbing pattern, replacing the blue spider emblem with solid gold, making the pants red, taking away the blue LEDs, and making the eye lens gold the suit design would've stayed faithful to the comic book counterpart but also have some small changes. It could have been a great suit.
I remember when I first saw the Iron Spider suit in Homecoming and not even realizing that it was the Iron Spider suit
What do you think about the integrated suit? Ik it's no longer completely metal, but I think the color placement worked much better than the original mcu iron spider.
There was even concept art for Infinity War that was basically the same design but in red and gold and that would've worked fine if need be
Something I noticed while comparing suits in spider-man ps4 is that the mcu iron spider looks more like the mk III spider armor, from the colors, to the segmenting, details and "shape" of the armor. Idk it's just something I thought one day
they could just take out the blue and it would be a decent suit
Take out the blue and change the black eye trim to gold.
I understand your commitment but the reason they went with this was most likely the marketing team didn't trust that people would understand why his suit is like this and not the classic like look
I think the reason why they made the odd change was because they were apparently worried people wouldn’t tell the difference between iron man and Spider-Man, I disagree since it’s easy to spot differences on screen, I also think Tom is too small for the original design which is probably why they did that, the iron spider suit is for Peter who’s basically in his 20’s, he’s muscled up to a good degree and not too scrawny but Tom’s Spider-Man depicts an awkward teenage kid’s body very well
I honestly think this would have been a good Parker Industries suit instead of Iron spider. Just me though.
Yeah, because Parker Industries' suit is a metallic version of his classic suit made of nanobots, which the Iron Spider armor in the MCU is closer resembling.
Oh boy, can’t wait to see him bitch about one of my favorite MCU suits…
That’s right 😎
@@amazingpsm Wait, are you gonna do one of your redesigns in this video?
@@isaacrogers4174 nah, not this time. I did put the comic iron spider over the MCU iron spider in one of the shots though for a point I’m trying to make
@@amazingpsm Ah ok, for me the only thing I would change about this suit is make the front and back spider logo completely gold.
Dude I’m so glad someone besides me hates the MCU Iron Spider………the OG suit is one of the absolute Best! Superior Symbiote Iron Spider I’m that order for me. Spider-Man had some of the best superhero outfits 🥳
How did you make the lenses on your iron spider suit, they look really cool and I would like to do the same with my iron spider
I know I am late but regarding ruining Iconic outfits: My Mother didn't recognise Wolverine when I played Midnight Suns because she only ever knew him in a Tank Top
When I saw it I honestly didn't even really care and wasn't in shock or surprise because I would be more excited if I saw the accurate iron spider suit
The MCU Iron Spider is a testament to MCU Tony's character. In the comics Tony gifted Peter the Iron Spider as Peter joined his side. He modeled the suit to ressemble his own, while in the MCU Tony is much less arrogant and self absorbed so he modeled the suit to resemble Peter's traditional outfit more than your usual Iron Man suit as he respects who Peter is and only wanted to give him an upgrade, not make him into Iron Man Jr.
When I first saw the suit in infinity war I had no idea that it was supposed to be iron spider until I saw the iron arms
I'm steering away a tad but I think since comics are from a cartoonist medium an animation would be more easily adaptable for this kind of stuff. Comics are more simplistic drawings by nature so they'll naturally pop unless u over saturate the colors over the inks like I see a lot of new ones do over the classic inks
the worst part is how good the proposed comic accurate one was
One of the main reasons for the redesigns is merch because the original cartoons already exist as merch so to make money off the new look.
Here’s the thing In no way home They took a piece of the iron spider suit and placed on the Far from home suit. Ironically look more like the Comic iron spider
I like the suit and what it stood for, having elements that made it look like iron man to highlight how he saw himself in Peter and to make him “the new iron man”. That said, it would have been WAY better if in Far From Home he realized he can become he own hero and redesigned the suit to be comic accurate.
What's worse is that the "Far From Home" suit is basically this but MORE black, DESPITE it being more simplistic!
i actually really like Classic Suits. it worked brilliant for Deadpool, really hope to see more of them in the future
I love the MCU Iron Spider suit🏃🏽♂️but I can understand why people don’t like it 😂
I like that the MCU Iron Spider suit looks closer to Spiderman while having notable Tony Stark influences, unlike the comics suit which is purely an Iron Man suit built to resemble Spiderman. That being said both are great designs
I’m going to be 100% honest, it didn’t even register to me that it was supposed to be the iron spider suit until I saw some merch or something and I was like…that doesn’t seem right
well.....they seem to of done the classic suit justice at the end of no way home but.....they best not do my boy the symbiote suit dirty
The only thing the MCU suit did right was giving it an extra leg, that's it.
Great video man. What’s the music behind this video?
Cuphead ost!
@@amazingpsm And Spider-Mans theme from UMVC3
I think a part of the reason why they had it look less like Iron Man is so that when Endgame came around Spidey would be in a suit that is more in line with his traditional appearance for the swan song of the MCU's first saga.
I just assumed they were going to give him the classic Iron Spider Suit later, because it was too early for him to be wearing something too far from his iconic look.
I only realized a year later that it was even supposed to be an adaptation of the Iron Spider suit
the mcu iron spider suit is a mashup of the sensational, spider armour mk IV, with the vauge concept of iron spider
Literally everything you said here is exactly how I feel about the iron spider in the comics and the mcu also iron spider looks so menacing sometimes and that's dope af
You can come at me the suitcase suit and the iron spider should have mixed when it was shown
I don't like what the went with the Iron Spider costume either, but I just can't think of any in universe explanation on why Tony would change the color pallette of the Spider Man costume.
I drew out the iron spider suit and only used red and gold and leaving the front emblem the exact same and coloring it gold and it looks better then the MCU suit
One issue I have with the comic iron spider suit is that there are only 3 mechanical arms that come out from the back, but it makes much more sense for there to be 4 since that way, he’d actually have 8 limbs, like a spider. It always bugs me and the fact that the mcu iron spider has 4 arms is the only reason I like it, other than that yeah I pretty much agree with what you said.
I think it had 4 later on
Wdym? The Iron Spider suit had all 8 limbs? Did you forget about Parker’s third leg??? 🤔
@@fossilsaur.615 huh🤔
8:54 Even captured the themes, it was trying to tell
If you don’t mind what are your thoughts on the intergrated suit and the final suit from no way home Because I love those suits. I love the mcu iron spider suit although you are correct about making it very simple.
I never loved the mcu iron spider suit but I don’t exactly HATE it though
lol when i saw this suit on a toy being advertised as "Iron Spider-Man" I just wouldnt accept it. THEY DIDNT EVEN GIVE IT THE RIGHT NAME
Honestly the suit has grown on me
same but i definitely think their are way better iron spider suits that exist
@@icantfeelmylegs9329 yeah definitely
I remember watching Homecoming and that scene with the suit having absolutely no impact on me. Peter's rejection did. But the suit itself, nothing. I literally could not comprehend that it was something special. I didn't even know it was supposed to be the Iron Spider (**which I've known and loved since I was five**,) because it was such a far cry. I only found out that it was the Iron Spider because one day I wanted to draw the original Iron Spider, but was having trouble with the symbol and looked it up for a photo reference only for the Google image search to be flooded with that generic shiny suit from the Infinity War teasers. That's when it clicked as to what it was. Also, fun fact, the rant I had to a friend about my disdain for that suit the following day at band camp was interrupted by some girl I didn't know at the time. And that's how I met my first girlfriend.
The integrated suit is something like the iron spider suit and it’s made for the redemption I guess
AUGHHHHH THERE WAS A COMIC ACCURATE SUIT AND THEY CHOSE A FU KING METALLIC SH T SUIT AAHHHHH
Try flipping the gold and blue maybe it might be good
I love how Peters legs are drawn in the iron spider suit. So big and muscular. I wish they would be wrapped around me… i need to get a girlfriend.
The fact there was a blueprint in far from home of CLASSIC iron spider when peter was making his new suit and also mark 2 spider armor...
Glad i saw this video. I was confused why people were losing their minds back then over the "iron spider" armor. My initial reaction was "that's not iron spider"