What Happens When You Mount a Giant TV Into Just Drywall?
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As someone who installs screens regularly, anything articulated like that requires bracing. When I install screens for government departments, they require all mounting hardware to exceed holding capacity by 25%. So you need to factor in both the screen weight and mount weight. Toggles are rated 10kg in Australia, so you would need approx 8 toggles. However you then run the risk of weakening the gyprock structure with too many penetrations that can in the long term fracture. Toggles are handy when using a single stud when the mount cannot reach two. Best method for heavy screens or articulated mounts with large displays where the center of gravity sits too far out is to either brace the wall internally or externally with 15mm or 17mm plywood fixed to a minimum of 2 studs.
Some good points here Mark, thanks for sharing your expertise.
When trying 'not to find a stud' did you just try to find one? They always seem to move from where you really need one. 🤣
truth!
I will say a better solution is to mount a wood plate behind in the studs, and the mount to the woodplate.
My new build home (UK) was built during the timber shortage a couple years ago so many of the non-load-bearing studs in the partition walls are these thin metal style. Can’t effectively screw into these and I don’t really trust self tapping screws for this so I used snap toggle bolts a few years ago to mount my TV bracket into the metal studs. It’s a bit more fiddly as the studs are super narrow so you really need to find the dead center when drilling the hole but I used 3 along the stud and then another 4 around the stud just into the drywall at the sides of the bracket. The side ones aren’t really doing any heavy lifting, they’re more just for horizontal stability but they help sandwich the drywall. The 3 into the stud are solid and I can absolutely hang off the bracket. There is zero flex at all. Great invention.
That's an excellent use case, into steel stud- thanks for sharing it!
Holds on better than Valdes-Scantling 😂
In my last house, I mounted a big tv where there weren't enough studs, i used a 2x4's as furring strips to span the gap and secured everything with huge lag bolts. Drywall anchors are not my style.
I love your bloopers, too bad you didn't mount TV more to the left so you couldn't close the door.
That would have been a great idea!
I don't know why people are so obsessed with putting huge TVs on the walls. I have a 40 inch dumb TV on a dresser in my cave, and a smart TV on a dresser in front of the bed in the master bedroom, and they're both the perfect viewing height for us. The upside to the one in the bedroom is one of our cats LOVES to do laps around the TV, which serves as good entertainment before watching our nightly Godzilla movies before we sleep.
They definitely hold better in 5/8" drywall. We use them all the time in our commercial building.
Here in Florida most studs are 24 on center (in my experience) I used those on a 2, 65” and one 75” without issues for 18 months, but as you stated just the flat bar tilted mount. Did try with the arm and let’s say … Patch Work 🤦🏼♂️ 😂 thanks bro
Live and Learn:)
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funny, i have to mount a mounting bracket on drywall tomorrow. I will use something similar from fischer, the duotec 10
Thank you.
Metal studs are also an issue. Terrible screw retention. I also find installing blocking is necessary for those as well.
That is great point on the metal studs.
@@TheFunnyCarpenter It's possible to put a 5/16" -1/4" drill bit through them and get a toggle bolt set inside; I still prefer blocking though.
I mount tvs for a living. Over 55” I definitely would recommend using a flat or tilt becket only if on plasterboard. If customer insists on full motion, then I’d use 4 snap toggles and 4 duo power plugs, but no guarantee given as against recommendations. But I always use snap toggle regardless when fitting tvs on plasterboard
"If customer insists." Yeeeeeah they're not always all that smart. "Well, the neighbors have their 80" TV on the wall so we HAVE to have ours on a wall too!" Monkey see, monkey do. Lol
👍👍👍.Thank you
Cheers buddy
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What! I was vibing very hard to that one:)
I just put in a ledger board. Not the prettiest but it can be painted and used to hold equipment
Thanks Brutta,
Cheers buddy
That was nuts. I've installed too much hardware and hospitals to even put up a TP hanger without blocking behind it
Nice I'm going to guess it to hold for "a while".
Having only masonry wall I didn’t thought about that problem 😅
My wall between my garage and 2nd living we discovered has no studs... we don't know how.. we assume the garage and home were once separated then Poorly connected.
Speaking as a professional installer I wouldn’t recommend it for any articulating mounting, over 50”. 60-65” could work, so long as the tv is only pulled out for rear access, but I’d never trust a customer’s FSTV to be done this way. On occasion it has been necessary that I had only one stud and used a couple of those anchors, but only because I was able to have reasonable assurance and confidence that the tv would not ever be extended in use. Plus it was a very lightweight 60” screen. As for flush mounts, shear is so unlikely. As I tell my customers that provide that type, I figure only an earthquake would cause failure, I live in Wisconsin, so it’s not an issue.
The tv falls down lol
LET'S GO BRONCOS!!!
Even though the Hawks lost the Super Bowl on the last play, We will always have that time we absolutely trucked the highest scoring offence of all-time in the previous Super Bowl.
@@TheFunnyCarpenter Yeah, that 80" flat screen I bought to watch that dumpster fire definitely did not ROI. Hahaha
At a certain point you either hit a few studs or you cut the drywall and install blocking. I would install blocking and get a good nights sleep.
For a tv on a mount that just tilts up and down I would 100% trust the snap toggles. For a pull out arm, ya you're probably right. Thanks for checking out the vid!
I use a ledger board behind my TV.
How about using these in a lath and plaster wall for a large TV?
Yes
I have the toggler bolts holding my 65" TV on a mount through plaster walls and it's held up for 2 years still and no studs. Also, you're using all your weight. Tvs don't pull down and mine weights less than 50lbs
All hell breaks loose???
Stupid question but how can you find the stud besides knocking with your hand?
studfinders, measuring for 16 or 24 off outlets after figuring out what side the studs on, drilling a hole to see, magnets to find the drywall screws
A little magnet study buddy will work or if you want the best stud finder that pro's use I recommend the Franklin 710.
I see these things tear out of the wall at my job with way less. I’m repairing the drywall on one of these jobs now…
Wait... you like Seahawks AND Chiefs? As a WA guy who married a girl from Kansas, I thought I was the only one!
It's hard not to Like Maholmes and Andy Reid! And I've been blessed/cursed with the Seahawks growing up in the Pacific Northwest. As I continue to tell my son when we watch the Hawks, don't worry son we will find a way to take a horrible penalty and loose this game! or at least make it way closer than it ever should have been!
If only the Seahawks had had a good running back to give the ball to🤔
Right! or maybe even a quarterback that could roll out and make plays WTF Pete!
Im a novice and you opted to speed up and not show a close up of what i would find the most important element of installing the toggle bolts. I already know how to drill ???
The white screws that hold like 50lbs each are good for drywall.
Those would not be good for this application!
So I guess you're not shopping for a new TV
Is one ever really not shopping for a new TV:). But ya this one lives on. If the Canucks ever making it back near Lord Stanley I will definitely have to dispenese this clearly cursed Sony TV!
@@TheFunnyCarpenter 🤣🤣
For some reason towel racks never seem to be 16" so only one side can be in a stud. These would be perfect for the other side
Go hawks, yeah that still hurts couldn’t of drawn up a more bone head way of losing a Super Bowl 😢
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Screw into studs.... Problem averted.......
2' centres and steel studs present problem that Snap Toggles can solve. As well you will run into the odd fireplace situation where there is no framing at all.
where is the giant TV?
I think for me it is, "is it a matter of good practice". There are studs ever 16" (usually). Why not use them? So it almost doesn't matter if it happens to hold up or not. The people that are too inept to find a stud, are better off not having the confidence to tackle this task.
stop whispering
Whispering?