Chainsaw Cuts Crooked Curved Cuts. Bar Dressing and repair. Before and After.
2023 ж. 4 Ақп.
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Crooked cuts are caused by issues with the bar and/or chain. Bar quality can make a big difference in cut quality and speed. This video shows how to inspect your bar and bring it back to factory cut quality.
0:00 Intro
0:01 Test cuts
2:23 Bar and Chain ID
4:30 Bar Inspection
6:29 Bar Dressing Options
6:52 Belt Sander Method
9:14 After Inspection
11:19 Test Cuts
13:53 Cut Review
14:34 Repair and Dressing Review
One of the best videos I've seen for dressing a bad bar. Thank you!
Great video. Thanks
Great video. Short, sweet, to the point. No goody music or endless yacking. Helpful info, thanks.
I've had those problems many times in the past. Used same fixes as you did. I discovered (the hard way) that this problem vanishes when the chain is kept tight, and you use a quality chain oil. Great video,...cheers from N.E. Ohio.
You are a clear and concise speaker. Good information and very well presented.
Wow, I actually have this problem. Had no idea where to start. Thanks for the video.
Some of the best chain saw info that i have seen yet! Thanx Gorge,
My Dad was a timber cutter from the 40's through the early 80's. He could make a chain and bar last a long time, Thank you for the how to. All my best.
As a second generation logger you did a really good job explaining and showing things. The bar is overlooked to often.
Thank you! I don't have experience fixing chain saws and am probably one of the people that hasn't flipped my bar around, or did it once but didn't fully understand why. Your explanation was clear and very helpful!
Great vid, you could build a platform with locking casters for your sander so you don’t have to crouch. Thanks for sharing all the great info. 👍👍
Thanks for this. I mostly figured it out for myself (with just a file), but your clear illustration and instruction really make it plain. And I never heard of a bar dressing tool, much less to keep up on bar maintenance like you do a chain. Well done.
I WAS CUTTING UP SOME FIREWOOD AND I HAPPENED TO NOTICE IT WAS CUTTING UNEVEN. 😅I REMOVED THE BURRS ON EACH SIDE OF THE BAR PUT THE CHAIN BACK ON AND STILL HAD THE SAME RESULTS. I TOOK IT TO A BE REALIGNED .THE MAN SAID THE BAR WAS DONE WITH FOR. I BOUGHT A NEW ONE TOOK IT HOME AND INSTALLED IT ON THE UNIT. FIRED IT UP AND STARTED CUTTING ONCE AGAIN AND IT WAS CUTTING PERFECT. SO.DONT BE WHAT IS CALLED TRYING TO MAKE IT CUT TO QUICK.
Very good discussion/information. Thank you. Never noticed this as an issue with my smaller saws (under 18") but got A stihl MS660 with 32" bar a few years ago and am buggered if it will cut straight in big timber. Relpaced chain a few times without much effect. Will need to investigate the bar for sure now. Many thanks
Nice work showing how to manage a chain saw bar!
I always just went around to the other side of the log and finished the cut. Or sometimes we need a circular cut... I have this issue right after hitting a rock. 30 years ago it was just bad maintenance and very frustrating trying to fix it. Years have taught me. Thanks for the guidance and teaching.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I could definitely hear the difference on the 24". Great video! I have the Stihl 261C and it came with the 18" 0.063/.325" bar and chain and last fall I upgraded to the 20" 0.63/3/8" bar and chain. big difference it cutting. Happy I upgraded the bar and chain. Thanks for the knowledge!
Absolutely excellent explanation and demonstration..!!! This was never explained to me when I trained many years ago...!!!
Great explanation and demonstration. I’m going to check my bar and do some maintenance. Thanks for sharing. Greetings from Maine.
Thankyou for posting. After 45 years with a saw I learned something very valuable.
Great to hear!
Nice straight forward video explanation. Thank you for taking time to film, edit and post this video.
Thanks kind sir.
Yeah great video
Brilliant explanation. Used to do tree lopping and removal. My employees could never understand why the saws were jamming when they hadn't been flipping the bars and checking the chain guides. Spent so much time doing all that filing by hand. Didn't have the belt sander or hones available easily back then. Only thing I didn't see you do is lightly file the bar edge to remove any burrs from the honing. (perhaps your hone has an extra side hone to do that.)
good info, i have an almost new Oregon bar and chain that is doing this, i made sure left and right cutting teeth were same length but still cuts off,,, i have watched many 'fancy' channels for an answer and never really got one. i will now go check what you just taught me. Thanks!!
WoW. I'm really impressed by your craftmanship ! Did not know this phenomenon of curved cuts causef by an uneven baredge... Many thanks & season greetings 🎄 from 🇳🇱
Very nice and informative to those that wish to undertake bar dressing. It's fun doing your own maintenance, Proper maintenance makes efficiency! Happy holiday!
Thanks for the great info.. Ive heard of dressing the bar but never looked into it.. Ive got a few bars that can cut the moonholes in an outhouse.. Good stuff brother..👍👍
That little plastic Oregon gauge is a work of art. Amazing.
Thanks. Great info. You are a legend to us cheap S.O.B's.
Thank you. I was looking for this video for long time, but it didn't exist.
After you correct the bar surface you need to check there is sufficient depth still available for the chain to seat properly. Great video.
Yes, absolutely. That needs to be pointed out, I forgot to do that. One can file down too far over time and the chain will no longer seat or fit the entire drive link in the valley. That will induce a curve cut syndrome.
Great video and guided info. Thanks. Been sawing wood and my own timber for many years. Never stop learning
Great!Lots of detailed information.Thanks!
excellent demonstration, thankyou.
Thank you for that video!! Very helpful 👍👍
Had this problem bad this morning. First use after winter. I remember struggling to cut before i out it away. Switched chains and it now works perfectly so it isn't the bar - just my sharpening technique.
Glad I found this. My 029 as similar issues. Tomorrow morning I’ll be doing a bar inspection and verify I have the correct chain. Thanks!
029 is strong
I really enjoyed the video. It chimes with what I figured out myself using a belt sander clamped to my workbench. And a set square. Time to get a bar dresser though… Thanks from Portugal
Amazing video, I don't have much experience with a chainsaw, but it's great to know for when I'm at the hunt camp.
Great video! I've had similar issues after nicking a few teeth on a rock. What I found that works (don't know why, but it does) is sharpening the chain, and then doing an extra pass on the teeth that are on the side that the saw's cut curves toward. Curve left, double sharpen left side cutters.
Finally, someone who knows something about bars and chains. +1000 thumbs up!!
Learnt something new today. Thanks for that .
Terrific practical perspective on bar repair. How did I miss your channel until now? Subscribed! DOUG out
Thanks Doug. I'm new on here. Not very popular yet, still kind of a ...
I definitely got something from this guy Thank you for sharing 👍
Really great video! Thanks for sharing this! 🔥💯👍
That's a great lesson, thank you.
Thanks this was well presented and concise
Thank you for this information!
Good vid. Old boss 66 used to cut sideways all over the place really. Made sure chain was good raker gauge. Was the bar. Chain was just leanin everywhere. Was bar wasenent bent. But the grove was so worn chain sloppin around. Thanx good vid. New bar we were kickin arse.
Most all of this can be visually inspected and fixed by hand easily in the field once you know what your doing. Thanks for the video.
The visual inspection is a valuable tool.
Really great video I’ve never seen this procedure before or the tools you used during the fix.
Thank you for helping me with this problem- I was totally mystified.
Thank you for your knowledge 👍
The San Fransisco chainsaw haha, love it
Best video I’ve seen on this! Helps me tremendously. Mine was cuttin crookeder than a dogs hind leg. Low tide at Harbor Freight! Lol
New to chainsaws. Thank you!
Thanks! I wasn't sure what was happening. I figured I was causing the curve but couldn't cut straight no matter how I tried. I'll have to give this a shot
Excellent video. Thanks
your the only one I've seen to address "the bar" I had to learn this on my own decades ago because I had saws that cut real good archs..... I did it with hand files and it cured the problem
Emphasis on the bar, and the bar only. Thanks for the comment.
Fantastic. Thank you!
You are a Pro! Evan more than that! Respekt!
excellent video. Bars are often an issue that is over looked.
There is something to be said for letting the tool do the work but you have to pay attention with chainsaw regardless. I cut slabs freehand and the bar can do a lot of the aligning work for you. Don't forget the perpendicular line on the side of the saw, that is pretty useful as well.
Excellent video Sir.
Great video thanks for sharing👍✌️
I've definitely been fighting this problem for awhile. I've never heard of dressing a bar til now, but it makes perfect sense.
You do not need to dress your bar. They do create burs an flatten out but any person that runs a saw long enough knows this maintenance is literally no necessary. Try to run the bar evenly flipping it over on each time you change out a chain.
@Daniel Nelson I flip my bar all the time, it's still worn in deep and uneven. Why does it cut crooked when the bar is straight and it has a new chain? I run an ms440 and 20" stihl bars.
@@Bojangles6 you are probably torquing the saw. An the deep wear is 2 reasons one either too lose of a chain which is very unlikely for any home owner. An the second it is way too tight.
@@Bojangles6 if it’s blatantly worn perhaps consider a new one. Ive ran them with big dishes an there is just no reason to. Bars are cheap for how much life they give out.
@Daniel Nelson yeah im thinking I pry been running my last bar or 2 longer than necessary.
Very good explains a problem with one of the saws....never thought about the bar, just chain,
very helpful videos..thank you so much
Well done video!
Great presentation.
Very good video thank you for sharing
Thanks. Great info.
Thanks for the video.
Thank you for sharing your expertise. Knowledge not shown in the owners manuals.
This helped me bro.. i got a lot of gear to take care of and this helps bigtime. Thank you
Anything that can grind, sand, or file AND stay square will help. Keep it moving and stay square. Results will be noticeable.
@@gorgeoutdoors i have a few 880 bars that are super sloppy... the groove is too big. So i look into buying a few new ones. Omg expensive. How much and where can i find that tool that you showed in your vid that squeezes the bar gap back closed? Its worth a try for me to try to fix it...
Found one 40$shipped from forester. Pretty sweet looking setup...I Need this!!! 47 inch 880 duramatic bar= 400ish$$at least. Worth a try to either fix mine or at least maintain tolerances on a new one.... we whoop saws asses in hardwood over here in Illinois!!💪
Great information!
Very helpful. I have the same problem. Now I know how to fix the issue. Try to dress the bar first and then, maybe get a new bar. Thanks!
If your bar is in bad shape, you won't make much worse!!! Try dressing with anything if you just need the saw to get a job done.
Never seen a bar dresser tool, always used a flat file. Thanks for this video
Top notch vid!
great info, thanks!
Awesome explanation 👍TCT
Very helpful tips. I will properly dress my 16", 20" 24" 30" and 32" bars....
Great video!
I like how you drop the bar and chain into the ground on your test cuts.
So I can make a chain grinder video on sharping next week.
@@gorgeoutdoors of course. I should have realized that. Silly me.
Right on , thanks.
Great video
Great video bud
Good info, thanks
Quick field fix if you get in a pinch. Find the flattest, hardest surface and carefully pound the bar while taking care not to hit the chain drive slot or roller tip. Using a sledgehammer top surface works great. This method has gotten me through on site bent bar problems many times.
Its best to change the chain too after such a big bar dressing job. The link sides that touch the rails are most likely worn out unevenly too, so it might create problems/more uneven wear now that the bar si flush on both sides.
That's interesting. I'm going through the comments trying to identify what might be causing a problem with 1 chain. Always gives me grief and can't seem to figure out why. Either side wear or rakers
The geese approve! I never knew why mine cut crooked. I assumed I didn't sharpen evenly.
Top video.
nice job!
Before getting a decent belt sander with a good fence, I used my table saw with a large fine grit stone wheel that fit the arbor. Also, like you did, got to confirm the table was square to the stone. Be very gentle doing that however. Still required a dressing tool. Nice work and video.
A table saw would be a good flat surface. I bet that would spin a stone wheel fast as hell.
@@gorgeoutdoors It does and I did the same one time on my old Shop Smith set up as a table saw. I don't know how safe that is to spin a stone so fast though so now I just use the belt sander. take care!
Also many people don't know there are oil ports in bar groove which get clogged . Must be cleaned with small wire . They get oil from larger holes by bar bolt adjustment area .
I have brand new Stihl 32 bar and new in box 3/8 skip tooth chain on 461 cuts crazy crooked. All chain and bar combos cut great. Gotta investigate this
Thanks!
Thank you.
This was incredibly informative. Appreciate it my dude! I got lucky, the cause for me was just bad sharpening on one side of the teeth. They had one side dull but perfect geometry, but the other was an absolute mess. Like someone used a power sharpener for the first time.. after a 12 pack of beer..
Glad it helped!
Keep at it.
Great video! Nifty gauge ...need to get me one!
It won't be long before it cuts crooked again. One side of the guide will be thinner than the other and it will wear out more. When i was young i tried this too, and after a lot of time wasted i knew it is better to get a new bar.