First Dirt! Is the Land Rover LR3 a Stud or a Dud When the Trail Gets Very Steep?
2019 ж. 30 Қыр.
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Awesome scenery! Kudo's on identifying the trail location and how to get there.
My buddy found an LR3 with the HD package and it’s annoying how well it does with street tires off road
You guys are tearing my heart out. I miss my old LR3 so much, watching you having your fun on the trails!
Love that you guys stuck with Rover and moved to a newer gen truck! If I ever decide to replace, or simply retire, my Range Rover Classic, I’m pretty set on an LR3.
Thank you guys so much for showing where and how to get to the trail y’all went to. I don’t know about other people but I like to off-road but I don’t know very many places near the boulder area. Y’all should start doing this in every video. Keep up the good videos you guys!
LR3 vs Touareg, "battle of the air suspensions" is a comparison I would love to see! Great vid as always gentlemen.
The Bad Bug I want see it too!
Yes please, do it
X2 I have always liked both (never owned the LR3 though). Went with the Touareg because of the on-road sportiness and more reliable air suspension (it's a well-known point of failure on the LRs but rarely fails on Touaregs).
Not much of a comparison. The LR3 has cross link valves that make it behave like a live axle when needed. Much better system than the Tourareg in terms of ability.
@@m-at-the-w142 Boy I gotta say I've seen lots of failures on both. Valve blocks fail like crazy on the VW.
Yep, it's a great rig. I've owned my '007 LR3 (Gov'na) for 7 years and other than routine maintenance it's been a great tool. It can surely get you in and out of trouble. If it hasn't been replaced yet, swap out the bleed off valve for the coolant tank that sits on top off the engine, it's a plastic piece with a brass fitting on it, they break at any time and cause the engine to lose it's coolant and overheat. Enjoy.
Due to your reviews, I ALMOST purchased a Touareg as a family (wife and I) off roader/overlander but the one I wanted was sold to a guy who also watched TFL. I decided to go to with an ‘05 LR3 V8 SE that was well taken care of. It’s much larger and better for what we hope to use it for. I installed the Johnson Rods lift and 275/65/18 tires and changed ALL of the fluids. So far, no issues. Our first real trip is coming up this month. I couldn’t be happier that you guys picked one up as well. Now do a comparison of this, the Touareg and the Landcruiser!
How are you getting along with it now?
Have owned three land cruisers, 91,94,2000. Currently own 2006 Touareg v8 and 2005 lr3 hd hse v8 . Touareg best overall. Lr3 best off road by far.
Nice to see you guys finding different trails. Nice video
I've been running an 08 LR3 with HD for 3 years now, 1.5yrs in the midwest, and the rest in S. CA, and I gotta say it'll keep up with pretty much anything that isn't a Jeep Rubicon. I will tell you though, especially since you guys are running a tire over 31.5", BUY A LAND ROVER SPECIFIC FAULT-MATE! ..If you lose a height sensor (it happens..) or anything else malfunctions in the air suspension, your larger than stock tires will mean it'll stuff the tires into the wheel wells and basically immobilize the vehicle. With a fault-mate, you can reset things (these trucks use a can-bus system run on fiber optic... They can and will have sporadic faults, that just need cleared to be on your way) and even manually restore ride heights even with a failed sensor or 3. As far as OBD Fault-mates go, I find the best for the LR3/Disco 3 is the IID Gap tool. Optionally, it has bluetooth that allows it to be run from a smartphone app (works impressively well) plus, it'll allow you to ditch those Johnson Rods and go to standard ones. You can just program the suspension to set it's lift points higher if you want it higher via the app/Fault-mate.
This guy knows what he’s talking about
Excellent advice, thank you!
So are the lr3 reliable? As a toyota? Having those tools?
Which of the two tools is better? 🙄
@@pulpanochamaster My LR3 has been better over the last 3-ish years vs the 80 series I had before it. My 80 series suffered from hidden rust/water leakage issues not long after I bought it, mostly hidden under plastic covers and carpeting (something Land Rover has had a pretty good handle on for some time) so it suffered a lot of electrical issues as a result. Full tail light failure, HVAC failure, loss of speaker connections on the radio, repeated failed window regulator problems, usually when they were down (very annoying) door lock failure, EGR failure (4 times in 9 years) front inner axle seal failure (3 times in 9 years) and poor brakes. I looked at the 100 series as a replacement, but every one I looked at had started to rust in the same way, behind plastic panels, and just honestly felt dated, like it'd never made it out of the 90's. People always think of Toyota and think it's the best thing on the planet because they're supposedly reliable and will last forever. Well if you live in the desert, maybe.. But if you drive in varied locations all over the country, they rot. I've had friends who've run into ABS pump failure on the 100 series and it's cost thousands to replace, and does immobilize the car off road, since they need the pump for the ATRAC to work. Then there's ATRAC itself. It's just not very good. It spins the wheels a LOT before it starts to work and just seems to struggle too much. Basically you'd need aftermarket lockers. Newer ones are hopefully improved over the older ones in all categories but they're also just as full of electrics as any Land Rover, so any perceived benefit is null. Plus they still suffer from the same stupid seating design in the back. The 2 biggest benefits I've found are initial purchase price on the Land Rover (I could buy one, and lose it and buy another, and still be money ahead on the same year/miles Land Cruiser) and the versatility of the load bay in the back, with the LR3's fully flat load floor with seats folded, where Toyotas use flip forward seats in the middle (eats up load floor length) and the useless flip up to the side 3rd row which eats a ton of room. Luckily they remove, but on the LR3 I don't have to worry about that. With the IID tool I'm able to basically block off any malfunctioning computer components, should I run into any (none so far in 60k+ miles) or in case of suspension malfunction, I can manually set the height on the car and shut the system down (very rarely if ever will you get airbag failure, it's 99.9% of the time it's a height sensor.) Mine's been all over the place even on trails usually traveled by dedicated built off road jeeps n' such, and despite being slower than something that's been modified, it seems to always figure out any traction issues and pulls through faultlessly. I had initially worried about CV axle strength and such, but I've found it can take one hell of a beating and I've yet to have much issue, besides tearing a CV boot open once when a stick got lodged in there. Had I stopped to check, it'd probably have been fine, but I didn't.. so it tore. Pulled the axle out, repacked new grease and re-booted the CV, and it's been fine ever since. Is it perfect? No. But it's a hell of a lot of 4wd for the price (used.. of course) and I've found the bonus being, not having to have a 2nd car for on the road journeys like I have with my past 4wd's, since the LR3/4 is shockingly composed on road for being so capable off road.
Great to see love being thrown to older vehicles. Good on Tommy for reminding everyone what this vehicle is meant for. Trail running, not rock crawling. Well done, guys. Keep up the great work.
What I like the most about your channel is you don't only get the dirt on 4 wheelers, you put dirt on 4X4's new and aged ones. ;O)
The Nitto Grappler G2 is my go to tire it looks good handles very well in the city with a 60,000+ mile warranty and does good off road. If you're looking for a good off-road tire that actually has a mileage warranty I would highly highly highly recommend the Nitto Grappler G2
Love it. When you’re done with this one get a Range Rover l322 and do it up👌
Don't be afraid to do harder stuff. It'll be more difficult than you think to find something it can't tackle
You obviously don't luve in CO, there us stuff a half hour outside their front door that would total that mallcrawler. I have an offroad side by side that can't tackle stuff here in CO.
@@richfarfugnuven6308 well m8, this 'mAlLcrAwleR' just happens to have had one of the most sophisticated Off road computers of its time, and a great reputation for off road capability. It really can go where it wants to; and I would know since I own one.
@@beenusirimanne I will bet you a large pile of cash that they don't go down the backside of Saxon Mountain above Georgetown in this. Only if they want to see true carnage. I have the 2020 Can Am x3 xrc (which means rock crawler edition) and it is all it wants. It's fine for an unreliable SUV, but it is no wrangler Rubicon or Powerwagon.
@@richfarfugnuven6308 Can't lie, I don't have a clue where that is. And of course, I'm not claiming invincibility for the vehicle. No manual lockers etc. Its far from perfect. I just felt u perhaps weren't quite familiar with how these things can deal with tough terrain. And damn, sounds like a nice rig u got there :D
BTW - ACE (Active Cornering Enhancement) is a hydraulic reactive anti roll bar (anti sway) setup on the Discovery 2. Completely un-related to cross linked air suspension.
Love the LR3 vids Tommy. Please make more! I bought one in part due to your guys’ vids
Cool series. Look forward to it. I like that you identified your location and even how to get to it. Beautiful place. I am surprised Tommy is not sobbing over the change from the last LRD to this LRD3. lol Your history lessons are very helpful. Especially for those that have no idea. The "1sts" that you speak of, are the reasons I went with my TRD 4Runner. Nice to have a leg up on the basics. Good name for that rig. lol I wish you the best experience with this rig. May it take you to and from and beyond. I don't think the lack of the rear locker will hold the LRD3 back.
Love the LR3/4. I’ll have one in the stable next to both my D2s one day.
20 years as a JLR tech lr3 is a great vehicle see plenty of them with 200+k miles on them one of my favorites very capable off road
How do you feel about the 4.4 na? Got one in my 07 Full Size RR. Heard great things about them *knock on wood*
@@michaelwiencek9250 pretty much will run forever if properly maintained keep the oil changed 4 to 5 thousand miles intervals
RSW Solutions (a guy who lives in Denver) offers a programming platform for the LR3/Range Rover Sport. With that you can change the air suspension ride height without the rods and also edit/update a lot of the software in the car.
Always nice to see the beautiful scenery when I'm stuck in a cubicle all day!
Love the directions to the trail locations! hope its a new feature that sticks around!
love how this channel hasnt gone all commercial and does 4x4 people can actually buy. don't change
Funny I have the new Disco, the terrain response is so good that I haven’t bothered using the rear diff lock even when going through some pretty interesting stuff up at moose head lake Maine. No problems with old unused logging roads even after many winters of larger rocks eroding through or going through some streams. It always feels very confident, it’s amazing how much further we’ve been able to explore, it replaced a Gle.
Im doing the same! Getting rid of my DII and moving to a D3. looking forward to the next video
Wish we had trails like that in Scotland. My 2006 disco3 is on 200000 miles, still running great. Happy that with the 2.7 diesel it still does 29mpg. Definitely the sweet spot of utility and comfort.
Nice. That's as extreme I would ever go off-roading. And that LR3 is making it look very easy. Great. Would love to own it.
Thanks a lot for the info on the trail! Can’t wait to run it with my 4Runner 💯
i totally like your channel. Congrats from Italy
Great video, there seems to be a lot of love for Land Rover in the states, here in the U.K. they get a lot of stick, mostly from people who’ve never actually owned one. I own a Freelander 2, or LR2, and a Defender, fabulous vehicles, but I look after them properly, when the time comes for selling the LR2 the Disc is top of my list.
Awesome ride! Doesn't it also kinda compete with your Touareg? I would love to see a comparison between Rhino, ToughT and the LC TFLPro! :)
nice editing,has that mini tv series vibe to it keep up the good work
I have an LR3 with the HD package. It is amazing off-road.
Just got my lR3 and it’s amazing
I bought a 06l r 3. . After a few repairs. I love it. Best suv I ever owned.
Love my disco 3, great vid guys👍
YES. Been looking at these for a while. How many kms on yours?
The terrain response is so good you don’t need diff locks
Ture. You don't need the rear diff lock as traction / terrain performance so good. Also why it was never standard even on the top spec runout models.
I got the same 2006 td 2.7 in australia. This is unexpected beast, just add 33” all terrain tyres and it will never disappoint anyone.
My Discovery 4 Doesn't have the rear locker and I have never felt I've needed it. The consensus from people I've spoken to is that it won't really get you any further up the trail, It'll just make it a bit easier than with only terrain response. I have a few videos of what I've done in mine in Australia.
Love the Discovery 3! Looking for one myself.
Bought exactly that car (2006 hse hd with two diff locks blue) and sold it 12 months later after putting in almost purchase price in repairs. I managed to sell for what I paid for. Loved every minute of it driving, hated the "Bing" sound announcing costly repairs.
I agree loved my LR 3
You can also use proud rhinos which sit on top of the air springs to give you a lift/bump stop and act most importantly if the air suspension fail and the car is sitting lower. You can also use a system called x lifter to manually adjust the height on each wheel which is super amazing when sleeping in the car on uneven terrain (-:
Have a look at 4xoverland channel with the LR4 doing Baboons pass in Lesotho, South Africa...now that's a difficult track. I've a defender 90 and had it for 6 years and love it, but the Disco 3's and 4's have become so very affordable now so got me thinking like you too. Nice video guys 👍🇬🇧
Nicest and best looking car lucky to have one wish to drive in your mountains..
So, I had a comment. If you don't want to modify by using the rods you can get a gap iidtool which will also allow you to do more things. Basically factory tool. It can change the car config file, update/ reflash ecus all for $400 or $500 I can't remember. Also, I sent you an email tfl to your truck contact and offroad with advice and a service manual for your lr3. From one lr3 owner to another have fun. Mines an 06 lr3 4.4l non-hd package and it's a decent SE package with a 195,xxx miles on her around the farm.
they like the air suspension in this lr3, bet they'll love the new defender...
Watching 2020 Mercedes gle review on straight pipes. The air suspension bounce control is sick.
Lr3 is the modern classic. Note it down. After 5 years you’ll look for a clean one but you will not be able to find it. Keep yours. Great car, all time unique.
Rhino!!!! Guy probably regrets selling this beast with all the official add ons he did!!! I had an 05' for 11 years.
Lmao my dad still owns a bone stock LR3 (he added a Land Rover brush guard, tailgate ladder, and Land Rover roof rack) but all the parts are OEM, yeah they’ve been replaced (OEM Air struts and air compressor) and the paint is in good condition, no scratches (there is a coin sized dent on the rear quarter panel)
As a point of interest: Disco 2 had a face-lift, that ( in Australia at least) got you the center difflock. The center diff is the same as the Disco, but LR reconed the TC would take care of the power transfer to where it is needed.
I have the LR4 and thinking to get the wangler duratrac 255/55/19. Should you air down on tracks? And what pressure? New to this
I would like to see you guys take a regular 1500 model truck 4X4 , no after market stuff on it out on a trail like this. Thanks on the information on how to get to this trail, beautiful views.
Best and nicest car!!!happy to owe one!!!wish to drive in your mountains...
Loving where this is going with this LR3
weird how it is so different on other parts of the world. I live in europe where we have diesel engine's in both the disco 2 & 3 and the disco 2 is loads better than the disco 3. The td5 engine is super reliable whilst the 2.7 v6 is one of the worst in terms of reliability.
Discovery 2, the best of 'em all imo. My parents owned one for six years it was a 2002MY Td5 GS Manual in 5 seat spec, it towed a caravan AND went off-road or Greenlaning whichever you want to call it. Yes it had it's gremlin's but which Disco doesn't - even series 1's weren't perfect. The D3 is ok I suppose, just to me it doesn't look a rugged as the D1 or D2, but each to their own.
I have the TDV6. It's doing great, as long as you don't stick to the manufacturer's maintenance schedule. All failures are either turbo failure, conrod bearing failure or crankshaft bearing failure. The intervals are just too long. Couple that with EGR delete (more heat) and you have a sure way to make that engine seize.
I own a 06 lr3 on 2.5 inch lift with 33 x 12.5 mud tires it has 200,000 miles and is still running strong I absolutely love this truck and I plan to put a diesel cummins when the engine gives out.
I am glad you did a video on this vehicle, I am looking at buying my wife a LR4 in the coming months. The 3 and 4 are pretty similar I think with capability.
Warlock 06 LR 4 is just better. It’s more refined and reliable. The later model, the better. LR3 is also a fine truck but it’s more of a labor of love.
Actually drivetrain wise the LR3 is far superior. LR4’s have water pump, timing chain and injector issues, the LR3 doesn’t.
Nucl3ar Family LR3 has the more reliable engine. 4.4
Nucl3ar Family the motor is far more reliable in the LR3 and the rest of the truck is basically the same.
The LR4 came with two different engines, the 5.0L V8 and 3.0L V6 supercharged. Which one of the engines are you talking about? The 5.0L did have some issues when first came out, from what I can tell the 3.0L V6 supercharged did not have the same problems. If I do buy a LR4 it will be the 2016 since that was the last year they made it and it came with the 3.0L V6 supercharged. From what I read the LR4 is a better more refined vehicle.
Isn't it too long ago since you published this video? We NEEED more of the D3/LR3 videos PLEASE!!! I have a D3 myself, and am thrilled to see how well it does on your trails in the US.. Thanks for your great channel!
All my buddies hate my Disco 3. They have Nissan Patrols and Toyota Landcruisers, but in reality, they are almost all aftermarket. The have changed exhausts, suspension, tuning, wheels, on and on and on, and my disco just goes everywhere the way it rolled off the lot. It flogs them in the dirt drags, does the "big wheels and lockers only" tracks without lockers, sleeps me and 2 kids in the back, tows 3.5T, looks great. Uses less fuel, too. And by the way, there isnt anything wrong with the 4.0L petrol. Really there isnt. Will find it hard to part with. Enjoy yours. Great video
What size are those tires? Any rubbing when at or near full lock?
Love my LR3.. thing is a beast..
By any chance could y’all share a link for the all those accessories I NEED those for mine !!!
4:12 The coolest thing - until it breaks...
you scared.
ALL cars break.
pro tip - the bleed screw fitting on the cooling system is plastic and has a habit of breaking. This can lead to an overheat and kill the motor. Swap it out for a metal fitting.
Thanks for the tip!
I recommend this metal bleed screw. www.crossaxledcustoms.com/products/land-rover-discovery-3-4-lr3-lr4-range-rover-sport-rrs-coolant-bleed-valve-t-fitting-heavy-duty-upgrade.html
I have those exact 7" auxbeams on my Jeep and your not kidding they are super powerful and heavy weighing in at 14 lbs for the two. Also have that 7" bar from auxbeam which works excellent also in a flood pattern.
As a matter of fact I am getting a fabricator this saturday to weld reinforcements on my mopar light bar brackets to stop the constant shaking of it when I'm driving not joking! Lol.
Would love to know how you find these trails
Hi guys from Florida. From a Land Rover Owner I can say Is not the Fastesñtruck Is not the Best fuel Economic truck But this truck is State Art and is very over engineering for the time .. nothing closed today ..... trust me is the best 4x4 System in the Market ... And the nick name my son put to the truck is ..Rover..
@Game Bred Duramax You forgot who bring the coffee.... Jeep lol.
Game Bred Duramax yes, yes, YESSSSSS,!!! FINALLY SOMEONE TALKING SENSE 👌🏼👍🏼 I’ve had a 40 series, 60 series! 80 and lastly a 100 series. They all had a little work done to them and were unstoppable! Even with IFS the 100 was a monster (I didn’t manage to get the diesel so I ended up with the 4.7 V8, same as the Lexus 570.) The only problem I’ve ever had is that I’ve never managed to have a 76 series (Full body SUV version of the 70 series single cab pickup, Ute, bakki, depending on where you’re from) I’ve also had Hilux’s for work for the last 15 years and much like Jeremy Clarkson, I couldn’t kill them either!😂 Sadly I’m currently in a Nissan Navara but am n the lookout for an FJ Cruiser from r thee family.....damn I rambled on there...
Game Bred Duramax 🤮
my favorite SUV/Truck/4x4
What kind of hitch is on the truck and would there be enough room for a full size spare? Looking at a 2006 LR3 HSE with 190xxx kms wondering if im gonna make a good deal or monumental mistake
Your lucky here in the uk most with the discovery3s like mine have the tdv6 diesel engine that is under powered I have mine remaped great vid 🇬🇧🇬🇧👍👍👍
Nice , so far,..keep the video's coming folks .For once, I agree with that name,..Rhino.
I have an LR3 and mine doesn’t look nearly as nice I got the basic model. It’s a beast off roading. It has issues though, can you make some videos showing how to fix the common issues or make a video on what to remember to maintenance on this model and what to expect to go wrong?
Hi, whats tire u using in LR3
In Europe you can get 2.7 liter turbo diesel v6. May not have as much hp as the Ford v6 (190 hp 450 torque) but it still gets it moving. My dream car, hope to get one someday, HSE would be lovely
Patiently waiting for a torture test of Rhino👌🏽
You need a 4th gen 4 runner. I feel like I say this everytime haha
EcBuddy123 agreed.
But that would be boringly reliable 😂👍🏼
@@josephwhiskeybeale with the emphasis on "boring." and not as good off-road.
The Toyota's traction capability is not even close. You would need lockers on the Toyota to compare it with the LR3 traction system.
For 7 grand a rhino, I hope you can afford to feed it and pay the vet bills. Thanks for the video and information.
Ahh Land Rovers, when running they're great...
Very correct
chefdan87 amen to that brother
Wait this has a lift on it? Is that common considering the air suspension?
I loved this video, I have 3 of your channels, how can I be sure I have them all ?
I love Land Rovers My favorite 4x4xfar
Oh I had an 06 HSE. I loved it so much! I really miss that truck! I’ve driven it through several floods with ease! I’ve also had to pick up stranded coworkers in complicated muddy training areas.
Did Tommy just say it has Johnson rods? I thought it was a Seinfeld gag?
I have a 2006 LR3 with the locking rear diff. I do about 60-70% of my driving off road. I've got the Grappler G2's and I don't air down. I have had CJs, TJs, Cherokees, Grand Wagoneers... This truck is more reliable, more comfortable, more economical, and, all in all, more better.(had to stick with the "mores") I'm at about130K, my mechanic tells me she's got 130K more in her. I vowed not to by another vehicle until the new Defender came out. I'm waiting for you guys to do a comparison, so I know whether or not to hold onto this one or upgrade.
The new defender looks to be an LR4 replacement for sure. But it's not a real defender in my book. also the lack of a lader frame hurts driving with big trailers. Still think the LR4 is the best allrounder.
do arb lockers front and rear to really make it off road worthy
Giorgos Tatarakis No need that. Terrain response and central diff(standart) is adequate
Yeah these things are unstoppable with the standard setup
You definitely don't need that, it's just enough with a set of KO2's cause that thing is heavy as f... And the drive will improve tons
Not one LR3 has successfully been outfitted with arb lockers. Just can’t do it without +5k. I was lucky to get a HD package. Wish you could manually lock the rear but it only goes on when the computer says so. Ie in rock crawl
@@letstrythisagainforreal Where the heck did you get that info? Also that factory locker has an extremely high fail rate
Good truck I average 23 miles per gallon on the highway in mine I have the hse 2006 LR3💪🏾💪🏾😉
Dang, I could've used those extra MPGs in my trips to Arizona from California. I get 19 mpg in the 2010 hemi Grand cherokee. When looking for a good 4x4 I looked at everything and ended up between the Lr3 and Grand Cherokee. I think the only part that spooked me was the air suspension. Everything else like interior was the best looking for sure in the LR
no you don't, you might see that on the instant meter or you were going downhill.
@@atodaso1668 Lr3 don't have instant meters and yes it's pretty easy to get good mpg like that in an lr3 on the highway.
We need Rhino vs. ToughT video!
YEES!!!!
Don’t you get the centre diff lock standard in USA?
There is no "Active Cornering Enhancement" on a L319. C'mon Tommy
If you like the Disco 3 you’ll love an L322. The tdv8 is a great engine, many here in the U.K. are well over 200k miles. If you look after your Land Rover it’ll look after you!
Nice! Now run it up the Rocky Top trail.
i own an 03 discovery 2 with all the upgrades, drive train wise, part of the attraction to it is the accessibility of the engine components. its easy to work on. the lr3 seems to be difficult to work on or get under. ITS A GIRLY CAR . you should have just gone with a Subaru
You need my 05 cayenne turbo to do a comparative!
How are the new land rovers in comparison?
I miss Gold Mine Hill 😢
Hi guys, i actually own a d2, and i'm looking at the d3 to make long trails. Do you confirm it is a good idea?
In my opinion stay at d2.
Different animal. A more complicated setup than the D2 but far more reliable. In stock form the LR3 is better off-road and far better on road as well. I’d keep the disco and build it up more, then get an LR3 and just do rods and tires. (Coming from someone with a stock LR3, a built LR3 and I used to own a D2)
just LS swap the disco 2, problem solved. Other than the doors locks and window regulators.
Colin Wilson and driveshafts and roof leaks and weak gears and just about everything else breaking on discos😂 I love them but they’re turds
@@andrewhovanetz3525 all sunroofs leak, every vehicle I have ever owned with a sunroof leaks eventually. Other points are valid. It's not worse than my brothers and dads jeeps, or any german car with all the electronics going crazy. It stands out from the cookie cutters unlike the newest models, i'll keep it as long as I can, maybe i'll make it electric one day.
So I just got a lr3 it has the same factory off road lights, how the heck do you turn them on!?!
I love this generation of Discovery so much ! With it's rugged design and off road abilities... Great choice you guys !