Land Rover LR3 beats LR4 in five points - Discovery 3 vs Discovery 4
#Landrover #LandroverDiscovery #LR3
In this episode, we reveal 5 items which we like better in our Discovery 3 than in our Discovery 4. See if you agree and leave a comment. Toyota driver coments are welcome and appreciated!
Thanks for watching.
Vera and Christian
0:00 Einleitung
0:27 Reliability
18:09 Diesel consumption
21:32 The "launch"
26:06 The look
30:12 Engine sound ,
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Hilarious, Christian on a rant about a product he actually likes, can you imagine if it were a product he disliked 😂 Vera, patience of a saint 😇
😅👍 You are absolutely right about that🙋♀️ Vera
Christian…. In another couple of months, you will have THREE Toyota drivers following your channel 😂 I sold my Discovery 4 (to the Toyota dealer) and have a HILUX coming in January. I need the reliability (and less depreciation!) that the Toyota offers, for towing recovered Land Rovers and collecting Defender chassis’ in the course of my business. I can’t be doing with a broken crankshaft 250 miles from home, with a fully loaded trailer…. but I will continue watching your channel - great job!!
@@SuperBigfoot555 😅👍 We just got back from the French side of the western Alps. All the local drive Toyota down there, now I know why there are none here in Germany. We just might go down there again and buy a Toyota one day. 😃🙋♀️ Vera
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My oh my Vera, it sounds like Christian needs a couple of beers and perhaps some Schnaps - he needs to chill... Love the channel and listening to Christian whilst watching Vera... sometimes she even gets a word or two in ...
Christian is just really passionate about that topic 😅👍🙋♀️ Vera
Brilliant vid you guys, had my D3 since new in 2005. Maintaining it myself all the way! 275K Kms and still going strong 👍😊
Well, you are certainly one of our heros. 👍💪👊😃🙋♀️Vera
Well, no 'yes buts' in this response!!. That was a brilliantly delivered lecture on vehicle semantics, people in Land Rover are now probably looking at their feet !!!!!!, LOL. Thanks for the entertainment, take care, Cheers.
The early discovery 3 looks like a proper 4x4 ! I didn't realise the Germans had such a good sense of humour ! Another excellent video.
For 4 years I have not changed the appearance of my Discovery 3. I think it is much more beautiful than the Discovery 4. It has its own style and character. Great, emotional episode 👍👍👍
I have 2007 D3, only Thing I added was 19' inch alloys and I changed the front brakes from D4/RRS. Great cars
Neither have I. I just love my LR3 V8 HSE... I sometimes look at it and just smile
Me too 😃👍🙋♀️ Vera
Brilliant session! Particularly agree about the looks, when I see another D3 I automatically assume they are an enthusiast as the time has long passed where they are owned by non-mechanically minded people, now they are much rarer to see - it's probably a 10:1 ratio of D4's to D3's in the south west of england
D3 has all the features I need, every model after this has more... More silver trim, more electric things to fail in 15 yrs, ?
things rust over there, chassis of 3's are rust free here in Au
@@stuarth43 they are indeed, I use lanotec on mine after every Fraser Island trip, still looks like new in chassis area
South west of England resident here from Exeter way. Absolutely adore my early 2009 D3 HSE. It just does everything I need it to do so well. I also love tinkering and maintaining it too but maybe that's the mechanic and enthusiast in me. Great video @ LR time!
Very informative another great video from Christian thank you Vera for making my ownership of my lr3 more liveable and understanding of the character of the engine thank you xx
One of the best videos yet! love the passion coming through.
Thanks 😃👍🙋♀️ Vera
Man, I love your videos, honest and trustworthy! Keep it up, from a discovery 3 owner from Canada that uses its truck in the trails, where it's designed to be!
We took ours to the trails of the French Alps last week too.🙋♀️ Vera
Brilliant Channel, I always look forward to Sundays.
That, Christian and Vera, was a cinematic classic that would make Alfred Hitchcock proud. Encore!
😊👊 🙋♀️ Vera
You guys are hillarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 BUT also incredibly entertaining and impressively intuitive and technical !!!!! Found your channel 2 days ago and have watched a lot of your recent videos, AMAZING job with Fabio's engine rebuild, Very impressed!!! I had a 2.7TDVS HSE D3 for a few years, the most expensive car (for maintenance reasons) i have ever owned..... But i loved it to bits!!!!
Again, a fantastic video! Love how you can substantiate your opinon in such an elaborate way. Not at all hurt by the video as Discovery 4 driver.
😅👍That's great🙋♀️ Vera
Vera asks “why am I having your hand me downs” Response “ let’s do a KZhead video, you are actually having the better car Vera “😂😂 I like your style
😅👍 I know that. When he bought the Discovery in 2016, he wanted to sell my Freelander and have me drive his hand-me-down Mercedes C-Klass. I really had to batlle him on that one, thank god I won. 😂🙋♀️Vera
Great fun ! I think Christian should be an advisor for land rover design team ! Really..... thanks 😊
loving your videos. i like the way you approach understanding the differences.
Love your work, really interesting discussion you should do this again.
Love your videos! I have been looking to buy a 2015-2016 SDV6 for some time and watching the prices increase over that time. Think I'll include the TDV6 in my searches from now on and the LR3s as well. Been driving a Muscedes (MUSSO with Mercedes running gear) 2006 for several years and wanting to drive a vehicle with some refinement now albeit that the Muscedes has never let me down. You both have certainly given me some sausages for thought. Thank you!
Fantastic video, I was laughing soooooooo much keep up the great work so enjoyable 😉
LOL You and Vera are the best!!! Love the reviews. 😁
hilarious! fun to watch. really enjoyed. I even love your German humour. 🤣 and: finally somebody who tells the truth about the looks. LR3 beats the LR4 by far. 🥴🤣 greets from Vienna
An excellent piece of belly-aching, surely surpassing Jeremy Clarkson in its wit and persistence to the bitter end! :-) Well done! I suspect Vera is one of those who finds life, the universe and everything slightly ridiculous and continuously amusing and sees Christian simply as the local representative. I found out that the two thing you need to buy BEFORE a buying a LR is a decent battery charger (to keep it on charge when at home) and a battery pack (to start it when the battery goes flat anywhere else). There's so much electrical stuff on it that you simply don't need but which some focus group said 'Oh yes, that's be nice . . . and that . . . and that . . . and . . .' etc. A very informative and enjoyable channel. Thank you.
What a pleasant surprise, thanks for the mention! 😂
Another entertaining video guys. Keep em coming 👍
What a well argumented rant!! Vera is the Queen of patience :))
😅👍 When he ís in his lecturing mode, I better not stop him. Well, lecturing is not the right word, more like a positive and passionate rant 😂🙋♀️ Vera
Just subscribed. Excellent channel. I've had my D3 for 12 years now (it's 14 years old). Just re-calibrated the suspension this weekend with my new IID tool. I love my D3 :)
😃👍 twelve years, wow. We had our Freelander for 11 years. But I am planing on keeping our D3 forever. 🙋♀️Vera
Another great video. I have written a similar rant when I 'upgraded' to a D4 from a D3. A few points. I have had a D3 auto for 8 years and a D4 8 speed for 4 years. Both now are around 300,000km. The D3 has had a rebuilt gearbox and torque convertor, and the D4 has had a rebuilt engine due to crankshaft failure. Crankshaft failure is more prevalent in the 3.0 version. You mention that the EGR are more complex in the 3.0 litre. Maybe, and they are certainly a different design, but 3.0 EGR do not cause problems like the 2.7 EGR do. I agree that the are paddles are pretty useless off road. But you are not making a fair comparison as your D3 is manual transmission. Other than for engine braking, the paddles are not needed. I just had a whole weekend off road in Spain and it was in D 99% of the time. The HP8 transmission is superior to the HP6 in every way. Also, they just don't break. The D4 is 10% more fuel efficient, like for like. My D3 has given 11.36 l/100km over 218,932km. My D4 has given 10.39l/100km over 186,307km. This was a major consideration when I retired my D3 from work and replaced it with a D4, that, and I no longer trusted the gearbox. 110,000km later, the crankshaft snapped, but hey, I'm not looking at my feet, the D3 towed the dead D4 from central Brittany, France to Kent, UK for a rebuild. The D3 does look better, inside and out. The D3 front seats are better, so much so I swapped my D3 driver seat in to my D4. That fabric SE spec seat has now had my fat arse on it for nearly 600,000km, and it's still not torn anywhere and still the best chair I own. The grab handles on the head rest are a must too, if you camp in the back like I do. I tend to drive my cars for maybe 12 hours a day and the quietness is a bonus. I still look back at both cars when I park them, and I love them both. I prefer the look of the D3, but I prefer the drive of the D4.
Hello Russ, sorry I just get back to you now, but we had been gone for a couple of days on vacation. What you have to remember ist that this is KZhead , and we are not sponsored in any way, we are not out to please anyone, but to report what we like and don't like about our cars. We get so so many questions, daily, about which Discovery to buy. And at those are these type of videos mainly aimed. Not at guys like you, who have already made their educated decission on which Disco to drive, and who actually know what commitment it takes to drive a Discovery. But I am glad you watched it and took the time to give us your feedback😃👍🙋♀️Vera
Great video, agree on keeping the original D3 style, including head / tail lights. But I did recently upgrade my D3 internal lights to LED, and that has been a welcome improvement, much clearer than the old dull globes.
Love you, guys. Thank you so much for your videos.
Oooh. Due to my bad English, after all I’m British, I thought Christian was saying Mole Crawler which I didn’t know what it was but likely something Americans do with their 4x4s in the woods. Now I know it’s Mall Doh!! Loving the videos from you and I think that they are not only setting the entertainment bar very high but they are also my favourites. 💕
Best Christian Vera and Mr. Schrauber. In LR Time's latest video about the 5 ways the Discovery 3 beats the Discovery 4 Christian mentioned about upcoming "major repairs". I immediately thought to mention this video by Altblech-shrauber to LR time. When looking for this video, to my surprise, i found you are already in contact.😃 I had a 2005 Discovery 3 HSE, which I bought from a dealer in 2009 - full service history but far from perfect due to an owner who did not care. The body off frame work was one reason I sold it. I also maintain and repair my own cars, and your channels inspire me such that I want to buy a discovery 3/4 again. Keep up good work. Much appreciated!👏👌👏
Yes we always comment him, we really like his content. Christian tried to convince him to do his videos in English, that way his content would reach way more viewers. 🙋♀️ Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian Thanks Vera. I think even english captions would be great, although I can follow what he is doing as I can recognise some German words with his videos. P.S. I think it is through LR TIME that KZhead proposed the Altblech-schrauber channel. I subscribed immediately.
THX for your videos. Right now i own and use LR Defender 110 for my trips and to be honest im thinking about buying second offroader for my trips. After watching few of your videos I made test drive in LR3 V8 and felt in love. My plan is to bring back defender to stock and buy and equip lr 3 for my needs. Keep good work and have a great time with your cars!
So how was the drive in the LR3 V8?
😃👍 You are going to love it, especially the air suspension. But I actually really would own a Defender 90 in addition. Might have to do some convincing 😅🙋♀️Vera
I’m a Toyota driver in Australia and I love LR Time.
❤ I am a loyal subscriber. My freelander 2 SD4 is now approaching 300 000km. Service every 10 000km and when I get back from a long overland trip as well. Just love it. Always wanted a discovery though 😂.. just to get it off my chest.. I was once on a trip through remote Namibia and a pretty new Disco 4 had broken down. Felt so sorry for the family and especially the kids. 😢
Geniales Video. Danke sehr! Hiermit bestätigt einer der beiden Toyota Fahrer (fast) alle Aussagen 😅 . Der Kanal ist eh' abonniert. Alles Gute weiterhin und schöne Grüße aus Rumänien.
Danke Daniel. 👍
Remember that the Queen does drive a Disco, maybe that was the brief to the NVH team 😄
Love you guys, your missus is a saint and always smiling and laughing. Such an adorable couple. Great entertaining content. Many thanks from England.
We don't talk to Toyota drivers! We just tow them out.
Very true ❤❤😂😂
Happy New Year!!! LOL, only just started watching you guys for a couple of weeks and am already hooked :) I loved the engine rebuild and learnt so much from it! I have a Discovery 3 2005 "Cat D" write off as it was 6 years ago when bought it and repaired it.... I'm no mechanic but I love the vehicle and you are right it seems to be an addictive passion to keep the car going !. My wife has just bought a Discovery Sport as a replacement for our Disco3 but I'm now going to sell my old 2005 Mercedes to keep the Disco as my main car. as I've invested so much time in it. Recently fixed a "bing-bong" due to a drifting steering sensor (replacing many components along the way :)) Anyway I recently had the cambelt replaced but our local mechanic didn't replace the serpentine belt or oil pump belt stating it wouldn't do any harm if they broke anyway :( since watching your engine rebuild and the worry about the oil pump and lack of oil this is now worrying me. How easy is it to replace these belts and I'd tend to replace the oil pump at the same time? I've not managed to find many videos on youtube to date but would really value your advice... Anyway keep up the great work I've nowhere near your expertise but it definitely keeps me excited and pushes me to maintain my own Disco (y)!!! Cheers BoB
Better write me an email. If you have the original pump in a 2005 and had now the timing belt replaced without the pump, I would not start the engine anymore. The pump casting usually fails right after replacing the tensioner. It just happened to Outback Discovery here on KZhead. Your mechanic should not have replaced the belt without the pump - if it is still the original non-reinforced pump. By now any LR mechanic on the planet should know this. Replacing the pump is about 1-2 more hours work than just replacing the timing belt. The serpentine belt does not destroy anything if it fails but it still leaves you strandet and it’s only 25$. Now it will be 100$. I think you need a new mechanic 😳. Christian
Christian, I imagine you already did go on for AT LEAST another half an hour but Vera kindly did some good editing! Sunday evening would never be the same without LR Time. Good to see you lowered the seat belt top mount Vera, much safer.
The raw footage was 1:50h. I started to loose my voice towards the end. Sorry for talking so much. Christian
Brilliant episode. My LR3 2.7tdi has a power tune with egr delete. The engine sounds great and launches amazingly. 373,000 kms. My kms are 9.7lt around town.
Hope ours will go that long too. We do everything to maintain it properly. Thanks for your comment. Ours takes 9.5 confirmed L/100km if nothing in on the roof. This is pretty good. Our LR4 takes more like 10-11 but I push it a bit harder because it is so much fun. Christian
Thank you Christian and Vera. One of your best videos! Much of which I agree with you. I have a 2005 (2.7 litre) Discovery 3 S and a 2010 (3 litre) Range-rover Sport SE. Both are automatic and both have the 6 speed lever operated box. We are having a few problems getting fuel in the UK right now and we have just returned from a 500 mile round trip. Because the Discovery 3 had more fuel in it at the beginning of the trip, we were forced to use this vehicle for our trip, which it did to perfection! Its Launch is very good and it will drive very happily all day at 2 0 more miles/hour than it should be. Remember that our Range-rover has the 6 speed box, so launches well. But according to the computer its fuel economy is about 3 miles/gallon better than the Disco. However it is much more of a bumpy ride and because the engine noise is reduced, does promote more “Oh my God” comments due to the increase of rattling sounds from inside the vehicle. Despite the horror stories we hear, together with the guilt your videos cause because we don’t maintain our vehicles as well as you do, our 16 year old Discovery 3 is and has been an incredibly reliable vehicle. What other 16 year old vehicles would you be happy to use on a 500 mile round trip, without having to worry about it? As regards Toyota - v - LR, there is only one brand of vehicle, no matter how old it is, that will go anywhere in this world, including Buckingham Palace WITH PRIDE. And it isn’t the Toyota!
👍 We also just went to the Alps, almost 1800km round trip, without any issues. Now I have to got to Berlin next week, alone with Philipp, I hope my car will tread me well 😅🙋♀️. Our on board computer is almost off by 1L/100km. We always use the actuall data, liter tanked/ km driven to calculate the diesel consumption ( well, we use an app). 🙋♀️Vera
Totally agree about the looks. 3 > 4. I’m just not a fan of those taillights!
I've been following you for quite some time now. You are excellent , very meticulous, you pay attention to detail. You made me re-new my faith in land rover vehicles. EVERYTHING that you say is valid. Don't worry about the Toyota people and the people leaving negative comments. They probably never picked up a wrench in their life and they are jealous of your knowledge. Keep making excellent videos. You are so good at what you do, I would like to take a flight to come to germany and meet you. In any case. Nothing new here. I believe amongst other people , the germans and the british are excellent engineers. You are both excellent people. And you have a sense of humour too. Who said germans don't have a sense of humour ?
Loved my LR3and it's design (much better looking than a LR4) for me was near perfect but too many major problems made me think at 103,000 miles about upgrading to the latest 2016 LR4 I could find however lack of confidence in the LR3 and Land Rover generally led me to a used (but only 12,000 miles} 2016 Land Cruiser with full MFSH and I love it and drive with a renewed confidence - Toyota service is very good providing a 10,000 a year mile warranty for 10 years or 100,000 miles at reasonable prices. Sorry guys really enjoyed your videos and wish you well.
I still haven't replaced my Disco 3 since it was written off back in June due to lock downs, however I was contemplating a D4 but after watching your video I am not convinced...keep up with the entertainment.
You need to test drive a few. Take your time and lock close. The engine is very powerful but many items are like a new wall paper only. Christian
So agree Christian with your comments re driving an old D3, it feels cool! I do get comments and I like the purity of it's looks. I bought a brand new one in 2005 and kept it for 6 years, and recently have just bought a poverty spec (coil springs) 2005 D3 and loving it!
As i have come to expect , another superb video
I've been saying the same thing about reliability for a while now. If the 2.7 doesn't snap a crank or spin a bearing (which you have a pretty low chance of doing) it's actually a really reliable engine - 330k on my MY08 and barely anything has gone wrong with the engine apart from usual things like water pump and the plastic crossover pipe on top of the engine. Hotter climates (Australia in my case) see that piece fail more often. I've also installed the upgraded oil pump as you have. There are other factors that cause failure in the 2.7 - the timing belt tensioner bolt is only torqued to 24nm but I've seen the results of mechanics actually using a rattle gun to do them up - snapped bolt 500km later. Also the oil filter comes out with the housing cap, but if you install it back the same way you will destroy the engine as you are not locating the bypass in the filter housing as required. I specifically bought the 2.7 as in Australia we have the Ford Territory SUV that uses the Land Rover single turbo version of the 2.7 Lion diesel. Can buy a wrecked one with low KM for a pittance. That was my hedge.
I can't stop watching these videos and I don't even drive a 4WD 😂
My mate sold his D4 purely on the fact that it didn't launch fast enough even compared to his D2. He always felt like it was about to stall or just not go quick enough out of junctions or islands and he lost confidence in it even though he had it from new. Lost a fortune on it when he sold it but he doesn't regret it. Great video and awesome rant. So glad you actually like LRs lol.
😃👍🙋♀️ Vera
Great video guys! I always like to hear you opinion from Germany!
Haha so funny. Another Excellent video, thank you Vera and Christian. I've got the Discovery 3 and now 15 years old. I love the car and is probably the best car I've ever owned and the most enjoyable to drive.
😃👍 The older ones, like yours and mine, are just the best 🙋♀️Vera
Love your videos guys, could listen to Christian all day. He reminds me of a slimmer version of the awesome mechanic in Transporter 3. Have had my D3 since new (build 2009), no signficant mechanical showstoppers thus far, still going very nicely with 309km on the clock! Changing out the electronic handbrake module in a few weeks, will cost about A$1,700 for the part, and ~$700 for the labour. Happy to hear any alternative thoughts on that scenario. Like how you've maxmised the sunshine in your D4 with 3 roof windows!
Check out our EPB Modul repair from 1.5 years back. Thanks, Christian
@@Vera_and_Christian Cheers Christian, will do.
As a recent arrival to your channel... Fabulous in many ways.thank you.. You two, your humour and the topic. Which is cars and loving particular ones for the X factor rather than any logic. from a non Brexit Brit , also embarrassed about JLR longevity! 🇩🇪
If you are embarrassed about JLR, then I would have to commit suicide for what VW did. Christian
Gotta love you guys, you always make my day ;)
Super Episode! I love all you made :-). D1 300tdi and D3 2.7TDV6 owner.
Cool 😃👍🙋♀️ Vera
Evening Vera and Christian. I could listen to going on for ever 🤣 I would never unsubscribe to LR times 👍🏻 Vera is so cute sitting there and hardly understanding like me but I still loved it 😍 Take care until the next video cheers Stevie x 😘 for Vera for being patient lol 😆
😃👍I get better, slowly but surely at understanding what he rambles about.😅 🙋♀️ Vera
Once again a great video informative and entertaining as usual on this channel. If I can understand Christian's view, I am glad that this episode came after I purchased my LR4 because I would not trade it for a LR3 despite some of the technical or design flaws that Christian mentioned. Since July, I took 2 long trips clocking more than 20K Km driving across Europe, sleeping in it. Unlike Christian, I love the smooth automatic 8 gearbox, the silence on board, the slicker interior design. The only wish would be to have an engine that would consume less than the actual TDV6 as the price of the diesel really gets high. I do in average 11.5L/100 km. How about Vera with her LR3 Manual?
I do too with my rooftoptent on right now. Also the snorkel caused an increase in diesel consumption. Not everything Christian says should be taken too seriously, for anyone who already owns a LR 4😃 . He loves his car, but still we get so many questions about what Discovery to buy, every single day, a lot of them. This is KZhead after all 😅.🙋♀️Vera
Vera is a Saint your a lucky boy Christian love the vids thank you guys . I bought bought mine as a retirement thing to give me a few bits to do it hasn't disappointed 😌. Handbreak job ,driveshaft bolts (previous owner didn't fit new bolts carbide drilling broken out broken bolts)Changed belts and oil pump as a long summer l don't need yoga classes just a chiropractor sometimes .
I think the phrase that Christian was looking for at the end of this video is "Disco smug face " . Keep up the good work guys .
I did up grade to the discovery 4 rear lights and grill but I love the style of the discovery 3 grill better 👍great video ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Loving your content. Really wish we had the diesel option in the US but the Ford 5.0 the V8 is based on has been reliable for me. Also helps that my son is a Ford mechanic. He's looked mine over at 118k miles and thinks she's in great shape for a 10 year old LR
Despite driving a 76 Series Toyota Land Cruiser, I still love watching you guys, and yes I do have more respect for the older, less blingy Land Rovers!
😃👍 Great, I do also greet every cool Toyota driver I see on the road, not many unfortunately. 🙋♀️ Vera
I love watching you two ...Brill I'm catching up on all your videos .....😂😂❤❤
You guys rock. Christian always put me in mind of Henning Wehn. Really funny!
Tolles Video - tolles Statement 👍
My friend. I am currently driving a 1992 disco with 450000 on the clock. Lots of problems. However I have had more Toyota's than you have had hot dinners and every one of them but an old 60 series has failed in a spectacular way. If you know the weakness of a vehicle you can make it work! Thanks for your time and hard work! Regards Ben
Absolutely 100% on the looks. never liked the blingy look of the 4. That said I like the seat comfort on the 4. So, would like a 4 with 3 exterior as it is a perfect piece of architecture from day 1. I love my l322 supercharged rangy, but am tempted to sell my lx470 lexus land cruiser for an lr4 that I would modify the outside to look like lr3. Thanks for your rant Christian as I concur. And thanks to Vera, you are a saintly co-conspirator for your husband. BTW you could disable the paddles Vera and trade cars with Christian. Keep up the great content and looking forward to your nxt maintenance adventure ~ Roger
Hello Roger, I played with the paddle shifters on my way to work today and they are fun on the road. I could maintain 2000 rpm and then the torque is right there. I think I was to harsh on this function. Christian
Christian & Vera, as a Diehard LR3 /Land Rover Series IIa, I have to agree with Benny, so True. Love your show. :)
😊👍🙋♀️ Vera
389,000km 2000 Toyota Prado (VZJ95) owner here confirming your assertion!!
😃👍 🙋♀️ Vera
there are some Toyota drivers (like me - land cruiser and old Lexus GX460) that LOVE land rovers but did not buy one because they are not mechanically minded enough. I love your KZhead channel.
😃👍🙋♀️Vera
Merry Christmas Christian and Vera : )
I love my discovery 3 even though I paid 5 times more in maintenance than what I paid for it but it’s not a common vehicle here in west Texas
Hi Christian and Vera, love the videos, I wonder if you could do a video of how to change auxiliary battery on a LR4 2012, as I keep getting a message saying start engine battery low, l know it's not the main battery as everything checked out OK, look forward to seeing how to go about it, keep the videos coming 😀
Hello Leslie, replacing the drive belt is easy but I made a special wrench for holding the pulley wheel of the cooling fan. You can buy this wrench also for 30 Euro. See our video here: kzhead.info/sun/i82Sh7WigYyfgGw/bejne.html @ Minute 20. The thread is LH! It can be really stuck badly if it was never open before. Also check out this video from Outback Discovery: kzhead.info/sun/echrZc9wqYZup4E/bejne.html Also apply anti seaze to the thread. I don´t think the belt is slipping. You would hear that badly. Check the charge voltage of your alternator using a OBDII tool. It should be above 14.5 Volts at all times. Check the ground connection to the engine (near right hand engine mount) and the alternator terminal as well as the battery terminals. All must be free of corrosion and thight. Battery must be above 12.5V before start or it is not optimal. The brushes of the alternator are replacable. See this video here: kzhead.info/sun/ZMNmfNtpe2t7lH0/bejne.html Towards the end. Its german but you will get the point. Christian
A great video as always. I totally agree about the looks thing !! I drive a 15 year old Toyota LC120 but the design goes back to 2002 and its much better looking than the newer models 😂❤ loving your work as always 😊
You guys are great. Paul from Tasmania.
I have less than a week following you and l really like your channel even though I’m a Toyota and Honda driver.
😅👍💪🙋♀️Vera
Lol fantastic fun Vidio as always, I love my D3 after watching your oil sensor replacement video I already desided that the D3 was better.How ridiculous not being able to manually check your oil, even my old 1 series BMW had both methods. My D3 only cost £3000 with 170000 miles on it I've only replaced consumable items, obviously I've spent loads on my toys, winch, bumper,straight through pipe(sounds great) 2new turbos (just in case) BFG at3s (look great go anywhere higher full consumption lol ) suspension lift with johnson rods, looks great cheep easy to do for an inch and a half body lift. I carnt miss your weekly humour videos i like to see other people suffering and loving their Discoveries couldnt think of unsubscribing lol.... currently enjoying 33degree sunshine in Gran Canaria..for another week...mmm so looking forward to the rain back home in the UK in my D3...Lol have a great week ,watch you soon all the best Phil & Louise
im a Toyota van driver for 20+ years and yes they are reliable, but im bored with them now, i have since fallen in love with the discovery 3, my friend just bought one for £4000. it is absolutely beautiful. i have started watching you peole to see if i can learn to work them myself, keep up the good work. Brian
Thanks Brian. Hope the Discovery 3 works for you. Not sure if there are many Toyota drivers who bought a LR3... You may be the only one on the planet. Christian
@@Vera_and_Christian at least i will be smiling😀
I love how you positioned Vera with the Sun in her eyes...so you could claim "I didn't see you giving me the stink eye" for all the rambling. Plausible deniability...very clever. :)
Great video, I have a D4 and I yes.. Some time I have to look at my feet but when its running good, its Great!! I fixed the Launch problem with a idrive throttle control. A must have for off roading. Just get one and thank me later.
Have to look into that one 😃👍🙋♀️ Vera
Despite the fact that you're not actually repairing something, I nice civilized conversation is nice too! A lot of good information!
Yes, his work schedule is so demanding right now, we just don't have the time to do any meaningful workshop content right now. But a lot of viewers are really looking forward to our videos, so we tried to do a 'babble video'. And he has so much more to lecture and preach 😅. Thanks for sticking with us during those times. 👍😃🙋♀️ Vera
If you own a land rover and are not subscribed here....then goodluck!!! Haha this channel saved me thousdands... very fun very imformative! X
I had to add another comment because I agree with you so much on the sound issues, my LR3 had a great engine sound. Sounds real tuff, did a great job with the exhaust too I thought.
Veras LR3 sounds 10 times better than my LR4. Unbelievable. The SDV6 just does not sound tough.
Great, fun video. Thank you :)
Wow fantastic rant Christian, but I have to correct you on the best soundtrack from under a landrover bonnet, my mildly tuned td5 10p, 190bhp & 400lb ft of torque is like an angel singing on a Sunday morning. But you're right in not changing a D3 to look like a D4. It's like D2 Owners who change the headlights on a preface lift model, why ! You just need better bulbs 💡 Rant over, keep the videos coming & the queen's butler is loving all the attention from you 👸👨💼
Love the rant. :) love my D3 even more
Very funny indeed! You cheered me up no end!
Brilliant. Now this is what I call a car review. Great info especially the section on Toyota. However, the 4.4 V8 in the LR3 does not have the timing chain problems of the 5.0 LR4, so the LR3 4.4 V8 is better. Also I've read it is a bit smoother. I totally agree with you that the LR3 looks better. It's a cleaner look as opposed to the bling look of the 4.
That is what we meant, even the LR 4 V8 is not an improvement over the LR3. Ever since we watched one of the latest Trailrecon videos, we call our LR4 the Mallcrawler, but only because we have both in our driveway.😅🙋♀️ Vera
Also the 5.0l V8 likes to eat rod bearings and/or crankshaft for breakfast, ask me how I know...
@@agcamprubi4544 😅(it's actually not funny) we feel for you 👍🙋♀️Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian Hi Vera 🖐️, don't worry actually my daily/work/off-road vehicle is a LR3 4.4 V8 with almost 230k miles and still strong besides the punishment, the one with the 5.0 is my Jaguar XF who share the same engine with the LR4. PD: I Love the channel ✌️✌️
This content is absolutely fantastic !!! It's like Arnold Schwarzenegger ranting about Land Rovers ... just magic 😁👍
😅 You are going to make his day when he reads your comment. 😃👍🙋♀️ Vera
Arnold Schwarzenegger has an AUSTRIAN accent. I have to insist. 🤣 Eiiil biiie beeek.
@@wolfgangchristian4743 Yeah but Arnold Schwarzenegger is also so passionate. We lived in the USA the entire time Schwarzenegger was Gouverneur in California. 😃👍🙋♀️ Vera
Love this channel. Love discoveries to drive but own a Prado. 😂
Hello guys, I enjoy so much your videos, you’re so funny. Regards from Costa Rica.
That is so great, thanks 😃🙋♀️ Vera
Brilliant, and I agree so much. Simple is better in the long run. Don’t forget also it is almost guaranteed the 3.0 will crack the intake manifolds which never occurs on the 2.7. An expensive repair. Point 6 you missed is the stock wheels are 18”. For off road and sand driving this is much better with better tyre choice. 19” inch is a backwards step for the D4 and now here in Australia owners buy aftermarket 18” solutions. Crazy. In city driving the brakes of the D3 are perfectly ok. Point 7 - the lower spec SE of the the D3 is perfect simple and stylish without the bling extras of D4 which is like a RRS. The centre console design is more practical in the simple version. Point 8 - unpainted black wheel arches, look better and are more appropriate for off road. Point 9 - the 2.7 has an oil dipstick
Thanks, I agree. I forgot about the 19“ rims. They make the tires to hard even for on road driving. The no-dipstick issue was serious for us as shown a view videos back. You scare me about the intake manifolds. My D4 leaks oil in the area of the Upper Right Hand cylinder where the tandem pump is mounted. So this could be the valve cover 😳😳😩😩? Body color Painted arches suck. I got them. Mall crawler look. Advantage is, they can be coated easily. Thanks. Christian
Brilliant, video. So true.
Okay, so I have a discovery 3 and a toyota aygo.... because I have a discovery 3 😂😂. I feel I was 'looking at my feet' a lot. I would say the option for a manual gear box is also a big advantage for some in the D3, as well as the D3 being cheaper so you are less bothered about where you park it and if you accidentally scratch it. I like your point about the D3 being cooler because it is older :). Mine has 189k (miles) on the clock and my aim is to get at least 200k from it, if not more.
Love your videos - a real highlight of the week for me! What do you think of another KZhead channel (9 Oct 2021), "Piston Broke Garage" - his theory of why does the TDV6 crankshaft break? This theory seems logical to me.......
We are, of course, already long time subscribers. We even mention him when we can in our videos. Or link his channel in our video description.👍🙋♀️ Vera
Guten Tag aus Australien. Great review of the Disco 4 Christian compared to the Disco 3. You bring up some very thoughtful points. Vera, many thanks for the editing, I love the smilies, they are so appropriate. I can confirm the HP6 with the Diesel has a great launch, from standing however, it is not so much soft as you consider the D4, but lazy. There are two grievences I have with the setup of the D3 though, from a loving point of view. 1 - It hates dropping from 3rd to 2nd, hence lazy, so at roundabouts, give ways and such, where you can maintain about 15 - 20 km/h, it will not kick down to second until you really floor it or it just plugs along in third slowly, painfully getting back up to speed. Using the sport/manual mode fixes this, but in auto mode it is annoying. 2 - When you go to take off, but for whatever reason you then have to back off and stop, when you accelerate again the whole car just sort of sits there and wait, almost as if it is making sure you really want to go, for full seconds before accelerating. I think this issue is more with the traction control, but again at roundabouts if you are the second car and you see your chance to go, this can border on dangerous if it "stalls" when you are trying to navitgate a busy intersection. Your comment about symbiosis and really a delight in your vehicle is very pertinent about Land Rover owners, I know there are always exceptions, but the Toyota owners I know don't have any desire to tinker or perform their own work on their vehicle. It seems to come with the territory of owning a Discovery or Defender that you tinker and learn, both through necessity and desire, to keep the vehicle running.
Thanks for your feedback. In my D4, I got honked so many times at intersections. I need a 100 meter gap In slow traffic to enter. In fast traffic, I need to scan the horizon with binoculars to see if someone is coming. Veras manual jumps in between cars if there are 10 meters space 😂😂😂. So I understand your statement of „lazy“ behavior. Christian
Another great video Christian and Vera I have a D4, and was always shocked by the Land Rover reccommended service interval of 16000 miles. I change my oil every 3000 miles and the oil is already seriously deteriorated. It has already lost 10% of its viscosity and has picked up sufficient impurities to justify a change. The cause of the viscosity loss can certainly be debatable but it doesn't make it less serious I think this fact alone is sufficient to cast suspicion on the cause of the reported crankshaft failures. I would value your opinion.
Absolutely right, we think so too. Also with the intervals, we change it right now every 10000km, driving 99% on roads, and hardly any towing. We would go sooner, if the offroading or towing increases at any point. 👍🙋♀️ Vera