Does Caleb Williams Make Bears Good in 2024? Who Should Chicago Draft at #9? Brock Bowers? MHJ?
JOINING US RIGHT OFF THE TOP… A FANTASTIC REPORTER FOR FOX SPORTS.. WELCOME BACK TO UP & ADAMS… CARMEN VITALI!
LET’S FLIP IT OVER TO THE NFL… THERE ARE 17 DAYS UNTIL THE DRAFT.. AND THE BEARS ARE ON THE CLOCK… WHY IS CHICAGO A PLACE WHERE CALEB WILLIAMS CAN THRIVE... WHEN JUSTIN FIELDS ONLY RACKED UP 10 WINS IN 3 SEASONS WITH THE BEARS?
WHAT’S YOUR ADVICE TO CALEB ABOUT HEADING FROM THE WEST COAST TO THE *CITY* OF CHICAGO?
THE BEARS ALSO HOLD THE 9TH PICK… REPORTS ARE THEY COULD BE LOOKING TO TRADE BACK.. WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE BEST CASE SCENARIO FOR CHICAGO’S OTHER TOP 10 PICK?
ANOTHER TEAM EVERYONE WILL BE WATCHING IN 2 WEEKS.. THE VIKINGS.. THERE’S A HIGH LIKELIHOOD THEY’RE LOOKING TO TRADE UP… HOW HIGH DO YOU THINK THEY’RE LOOKING TO GO… AND WHICH QB PROSPECT ARE THEY TARGETING?
THERE ARE A FEW TEAMS LOOKING TO TRADE UP FOR A QUARTERBACK… THE BRONCOS AND THE RAIDERS FOR SURE… IF THE VIKINGS MISS OUT… HOW COMFORTABLE ARE THEY WITH SAM DARNOLD AS THEIR STARTING QB?
THE NEWS CAME OUT LAST WEEK THAT THE COWBOYS NEVER EVEN CALLED DERRICK HENRY DURING FREE AGENCY… AND A WEEK OR TWO BEFORE THAT.. WE FIND OUT THAT DAK PRESCOTT’S MORE THAN LIKELY GOING TO HIT FREE AGENCY IN 2025… WHAT ARE THE COWBOYS THINKING RIGHT NOW… AND WHAT DIRECTION ARE THEY HEADING?
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I'm 100 with Carmen - Brock makes far more sense than most people think... Obviously, if Rome or Nabers is available, you take them... but Brock shouldn't be viewed as 'another TE', but as a playmaker and a pass catcher... even better, an elite pass catcher who can block! You wanna reclassify him as a WR and pay him more in 4 or 5 years? Sure... if it helps you sleep better at night.
I get the Bowers thing, but a T is the pick with the most impact. Realistically, we saw multiple high WRs traded the last few years. Multiple higher end Edges. Think about how rare it is to see an elite T just out there to take? Supply and demand. Plus you already have 2 very good TEs, surplus is great, but ships are won by protection and pressure. What good is a weapon if he can’t complete his route before the QB had a guy in his grill. It’s a good problem, but I take best T avail or trade back and still take a T and potentially a C.
I have been saying Brock Bowers would make this offense complete. You can run him at Full back or TE or in the Slot and the Defense wont know how to defend it. If they Blitz CW will have so many explosive options.
If the top 3 WRs are gone and Alt is not there then you take Bowers. Mismatch hell for the Defense
No way man.
I concur
Exactly. Shane would get his 3rd TE for his system.
No you trade back at that point
Why does anyone think any of this is relevant? There are Still People who think Lamar Jackson is an overrated RB. You know why? Because sports fans follow memes & have No Capacity to think for themselves? Well, prove this wrong. Play-calling _matters_ dammit! & when you have a QB who in college did Everything Caleb Williams Did In College _in the NFL_ & they still lost with him, you damned well better _look at_ the play-calling not the roster! How can you all MISS this? Watch any highlight reel of Fields. He makes incredible passes at weird arm angles & on the run that only 2 other QBs in the NFL can make: Lamar Jackson & Patrick Mahomes. He *continues doing this* into the '21 season with the Bears only now his receivers fall down, fail to run their routes, & in the case of Darnell Mooney deflect the passes that hit him in the hands into those of defensive players. But because You The Fans prefer empty memes to analysis, "Fields can't read defenses." Despite the fact that this was proven false kzhead.info/sun/hNmhhcaBiqCoa6s/bejne.html *before* he ever took a snap in the NFL. Then Matt Eberflus gets hired & for some reason even though they still only had a #1 WR who couldn't catch passes that hit him in the hands, the simplifying of the offense were (there were two) all blamed on Fields. First, they reduced their "schemes" to "hand the ball off X3, then toss a slant." _Then_ they added "on certain passing plays, Don't Throw To Certain Receivers no matter what. Not if they get open. Not even if they are the Only Receivers To Get Open." This resulted in multiple drives shutting down due Just To Those Plays yet the Bears kept calling them for Over A Year. Fields even went to the extent to call this out publicly even though doing so could have ended his career! & You The Fans just kept repeating "he can't read defenses."
Poles has slowly been building this roster, like he said he wanted to. They are at the point where they should contend for a playoff spot this year and they've been improving since Poles initially gutted the defense that first year. And it's the whole team, not just the qb. With this team roster and the teams on their schedule, the Bears would have a shot to be 9-8 even with Bagent as qb1. With a rookie qb, I'd say 10-7 if he has an OK year.
I can see the Bears trading down and still getting Bowers. That would be explosive, and 3 TE sets are a nice safety blanket for a rookie QB. Personally I think if Turner is still there at #9( best defensive player in the draft ), he’s the only guy I’d take. A real blue chipper at a position of need. Last year HOU did something similar and it worked out great.
Proof is in the pudding, and Bears fans are sick of getting spoiled pudding. I believe in Poles, but these coaches and players have to win. As far as the 9 pick, Bowers would be great, but they need another de. I would bet it’s Turner
Carmen you look sensational!
Honestly, doesn't matter if Bowers is "not just another TE." You already have Kmet - a top 10 TE - and you signed Gerald Everett to a 2 yr deal. Adding Bowers would add a playmaker, but it would just crowd a room when you have more gaping holes. Ideally, you get Caleb and Odunze/Nabers. If all 3 receivers are gone then that means there's a good chance Joe Alt is sitting there. As much as I like Braxton Jones, if Alt is sitting there and the receivers are off the board you have to take him. If it's not Alt, then maybe Verse or Latu (assuming Turner goes to Atlanta). Otherwise, trade back. Go from 9 to the mid teens and still pick up Verse/Latu or Byron Murphy II. If you really wanted to, trade back to the mid 20s, grab Jackson Powers-Johnson, pick up a 2nd rd pick or maybe even a future 1. W/ the second rd pick you can go receiver with a Keon Coleman or Ladd McConkey type guy. Could also package that 2nd with a second from next year, move back into the first round, and take a guy like Adonai Mitchell. That would give you Caleb at QB, JPJ at C, and AD Mitchell as your 3rd receiver behind Moore and Allen. Many ways to go about this. Cannot wait for the draft to see what Poles does. Bear Down!
I just hope Poles doesn't trade any of next years draft picks
I would love Brock Bowers, or Ben Sinnott but I’m guessing they’re going defense, probably defense and. But I would prefer a tight end but it also matters what they can do in free agency. They spent on another tight end so I don’t think they will use that on a tight end unfortunately.
Depends on how Poles grades the offensive linemen behind Alt, the DEs and the DTs…but bowers is as blue chip as they get and Carmen is 100% correct about Waldron’s offense. Everett is on a 2 year deal and that would give bowers time to learn from Kmet (Y) and Everett (move) before stepping into THE role. It is also shortsighted to call bowers a TE, he’s a weapon…can be utilized outside, slot, in line, backfield and create matchup nightmares. So many great QBs have a great TE.
Carmen Vitali, Bears spokesperson
4 picks is pathetic, especially when your top pick is going to be a qb
Kay you were born in Chicago I hope you do cheer for the bears
At 9, it should be either top 3 WR, top two DE, top OT, or trade down.
If a DE is still available or Odunze at 9, they’ll go with one of them. I can’t see them drafting a TE at 9 if odunze is still there.
It's not that Bears fan don't want Caleb. They just wanted that "Haul of picks" more 😂
Update can trade out of nine and get powers that will be amazing
Well, the Bears have the 3rd Easiest schedule this year so they better win 11 plus games and go to the playoffs
We already have Tight ends we need another receiver
Love you Kay Adams, but your Bears are still looking up to my Packers, not to mention the Lionesses.
I like Bowers, but not at pick 9
If we can't get Neighbors, then YES!
Nabers
Bowers isn't a TE, he's a weapon. If top 3 receivers are off the board, grab him immediately
Yup Brock bowers we would be unstoppable. 🐻 down yeeee
Brock Bowers is the best receiver in the draft.
No that’s not it, we believe that Justin Fields had an opportunity with a better team. He didn’t get that opportunity that’s why so many fans are upset. We think he could take another step, of course with Pittsburgh he probably will. And that’s going to be depressing if that happens. I hope the Bears win with Caleb Williams, I really do.but we just were growing up with Justin Fields we wanted to see how that movie ended.That is the reason..
We don’t need a first round tight end
Does Kay still actually think that fans in Chicago don’t want Caleb? Lol do some more research would you ?
No, I do not agree to take Bowers. If our needs are T, DE, C, and WR. Why would you take a TE? Even Sandra Bulluck knows it. The first thing you do is write the check for the QB and the second check is for the insurance the LT. B.Jones is serviceable but OL with neck injuries are never the same. Best Bears years are when they have a good OL. Even center is a better option if Poles thinks that Jackson Powers Johnson is a better option then I am game for that as well. But we have Kmet and Everett. WR if we are going to run 2 TE sets most likely that 3rd WR doesn't hit the field very often. DE is a possibility but supposedly nwxt years class is stronger than this year. OL or the trenches is always the best option. Those are my reasons why not to take Bowers
Poles isnt drafting a Tackle or TE with the 9th pick, he'll take a WR or Edge rusher, we have Everett, and Poles likes Braxton Jones
I'd prefer Dallas but I can live with Brock.
Dallas will be a 7-8 sack a season type of dude. Now with Bowers you get a game changer on the offense that will help elevate your young qb. Bowers has way more impact.
No... Caleb Williams will not make the team better in 2024 and most likely won't until the tail of the 2025 season. He's a rookie QB with a lot of flaws and potential it will take him time because there is a lot to learn. Plus, Williams actions shows that he is not guy that puts his down and work (Hopefully, that's just a show). Because if you disrespect an opponent or rival you better and you or the team doesn't play up to expectations then you run risk of alienating the team and the fans. This usually doesn't show the best leadership. It's not the new normal... most student athletes let their talking happen on the field. Let's look at some of the other players in the draft like MHJ, Joe Alt, Malik Nabors, Rome Odunze and Brock Bowers all prospect I have higher than Caleb Williams. You rarely hear anything outside of football with them. Heck, this past October, OSU beat Purdue in the rain 41-7, MHJ had 6 catches 105 yards 1 TD and 3 drops, and he apologized to teammates and was upset with himself. The only reason the Bears might win more than 7 games 2024 is because the team is better and there may be a slight improvement in offensive coaching. Caleb Williams has shown the same strengths and weaknesses Justin Fields has shown coming out of college. He may be slightly better at pass from 0-10 yards, but he holds on to the ball larger than Justin and is nowhere near the athlete Fields was. Plus, Williams has shown very little abilities at being a game manager or winning tough games against strong opponents. Two the Offensive line is still subpar in pass blocking and Bears lost their top rushing threat. Poles aversion to actually signing a quality center or drafting one in the top 3 rounds is mindboggling. Defensive lines will t-up on Williams because they already know he likes to play hero ball, he leaves the pocket very quickly, he holds on to the ball longer than Fields, He holds the loose like Fields and he is not the generational athlete Fields was. The utter lack of quality depth... If DJ Moore, Montez Sweat, D'Andre Swift, Teven Jenkins, One of the Tackles goes down on injuries for a substantial time the Bears will lose all or any momentum. Lack of leadership will hurt or divide the team. The Team is still coached by Matt Eberflus and GM'd by Ryan Poles... who in two years have little to show for their work and take no accountability. They have not broken the cycle they are just taking another spin on the wheel. The Bears are 7-win time at best!! One or both Eberflus/ Poles will be fired.
8.5 wins for the Bears in 2024??? I disagree..... As a long time Bears since 1975, I hate to say this but, more like 4.5 wins in 2024 with a rookie QB starting for the Bears in 2024. Maybe 11 wins in 2025.
Silly title lol All the players will make the team good
Don't need Bowers at 9. They can trade down and if Bowers is gone, then pick up a TE with a pick from the trade down. Or not, because they already picked up Gerald Everett.
If Greg Olsen was there at 9 would you take him if the top 3 WRs are gone? Yes... Blue chip.
@@mjblack1435 Travis Kelce 3rd round, Rob Gronkowski 2nd round. The list goes on and on of good to great TEs in later rounds. Bears have bigger needs for a blue chipper than TE.
Carmen's lying she really hates the Bears; she loves the Buccaneers and the **** Packers. I'm not sure how she keeps being mistaken for a Bears fan just do a little digging, and you'll see how she really feels about us
Its not we don’t want Caleb its the fact Fields wasn’t the problem
He definitely was part of it
He wasn’t the full problem. I’m fine with whatever the Bears decide, but I wanted Fields.
@@KamKing19 he’s not a good quarterback
Fields was a part of it.
No there are a three year aways from being good if that
They're gonna trade up and take Harrison.
I'll take bowers
Bears have tight ends already!
Maybe he can come on your show and talk to you about lip gloss and pink fingernail paint. I’m sure the grown a$$ alpha males in that locker room will take to that type,of behavior quickly
5 Billion dollars a year in grown man jersey sales. Billion with a B and nine zeros!! Girl will never be on NFL Network again.
The Bears will never be out of a game with Williams behind center.
Let the haters tell it every team in the NFL will look like Notre Dame’s defense from that one game. 😂
I have been a Chicago fan for over 40 years. This is the 1st time for me that we can get a QB and grow with him. We shouldn't take Brock cause we have 2 TightEnds! Grab Alt or another wide and run. But let's compete!! Appreciate ur show!! #BearDown
Your singing to the choir ladies. Doesn't geat any better than Carmi and Kay
It's not really good at O line, not that perfect, it's all setup for all responsibilities placed on a rookie QB. Unless Poles drafts 3 offensive lineman CW will be running for his life.
Dude, how is it that 2 Green Bay fans get to talk live about our Bears... Somebody get them outta here!
What you talking about?
Yup
Not sure who the other lady is but kay is a die hard bears fan so not sure what you're talking about
3 days ago, she said Greenbay fan
There's always 2 sides. Carmen always has the negative side when it comes to the Bears. Also, a few days ago, Kay ( a Whintney Alum ) said she's a Green Bay fan. I'm just stating the facts from their mouths.
40yrs now a die hard Bears fan and NFL. The first QB pic doesn’t work out to well for them. So no they will be worse
Packers have four times the amount of Super Bowls than the entire NFC N combined.
Bears have the most world championships in history. look it up.
“Ryan Poles is here to break the cycle”. Then, Poles does the same thing by keeping the coach.
The first year was a tear down.
@@dnice33 however the QB got blamed for that year. Regardless, you have a coach on the hot seat and a new QB. Again!!!
@@anthonyray5713 he’s not on the hot seat. And if flus fails they will hire Waldron . Nothing changes offensively. That’s what was done differently this time. And if Waldron does well they also hired Thomas brown to be the coordinator in the event Waldron leaves to be a HC
@@dnice33 You don't know any of that. If the Bears start 3-7, Flus will be gone. Shane Waldron might get the boot with him if the offense is the reason they are 3-7
@@anthonyray5713 false. Go listen to Ryan poles interview with Dan Wiederer he basically says it