A brief history of prisons. | Ashley Rubin | TEDxMississauga
2024 ж. 25 Мам.
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Dr. Ashley Rubin explores how we arrived at the modern industrial prison. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx
Omg She was my professor twice. I LOVE HER!
Yuck. Sorry
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I was completely unaware of nearly all of the facts presented. I think most people are. This is fascinating. I assumed prisons had been a part of our society long before the US was formed. Sadly prisons are now money makers for so many. It’s sinful.
great teachin
Good general information! I like your speaking style, too.
That's my professor! ^__^
Same! She is such a good professor and speaker!
sorry
This was published 2 years ago, and yet she didn’t even once mentioned how prison systems are in any other countries ?
I kind of wish she gave options to what "something else" means. Because so far it means: 1. Cheaper executions 2. Lobotomies 3. Having a walled pasture for convicts to restart civilization away from the rest of the world (instead of inside a confined space) 4. Releasing all convicts back on the public I'm interested in option 3 the most, but otherwise she hasn't given us much, has she?
Option 3 is also known as Australia.
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This lecture is a basic summary of Tocqueville and Beaumont’s observations of American penitentiaries. Both men concluded that rehabilitation as a justification for incarceration was, at best, dubious, and at worst, harmful. What’s more, the penitentiary was a manifestation of democratic reform during the Jacksonian era. Seems odd to talk about prison reform when, in fact, the penitentiary was the solution to the problem of crime. I wonder if Dr. Rubin’s conception of prison is a bit narrow. If, by “prison,” she means concrete, bars, and guards, then perhaps she has a point about the lasting harm it inflicts on its inmates. However, the harder question is why penitentiaries are considered normal. Does society exact demonstrations of power beyond physical incarceration that limit what we think and do? Is the idea of prison limited to penitentiaries? Do structural norms, narratives, societal judgments impose similar restrictions that compromise individual agency? Thumbs up to Dr. Rubin on this nice introduction. But for anyone serious about tackling the concept of prison and its effect on modern society, Foucault's Discipline and Punish is far more revealing.
What are the alternatives to the prison system? What do you do with repetitive offenders?
It´s time to do something else. We created the Asosiation of Private´s Liberty Person Family´s and Friend´s here in Paraguay.
Why go up on stage and give a talk about a problem if you're not going to offer a single alternative? I live in NY state where they are now letting many more people go with appearance tickets rather than holding them in a cell. People thought that would be a good idea and let me tell you, it's not! In my small city, people are robbing stores, stealing cars and crashing them and all kinds of things and getting letting go the same day to commit another crime. One kid was arrested 3 times in a 24 hour period before he ultimately stole a fire truck and led police on a chase and crashed it. So if you don't want incarceration, then what do you want?
Great
Abolish Prisons for Non-violent offenders!
No... What if someone lit your house and car on fire. After that, they stole your identity and destroyed your credit? Ya, for that person prisons should be "abolished". What a tool.
I think it’s a contradiction to believe in the sanctity of life and believe that the victims are in a better place even if you don’t believe in the afterlife you wouldn’t know what you’re missing out on anyways that’s why executionWould be better than a life sentence by a long shot
It's time to try something else. But instead, the prison problem will continue to escalate until there are more people in prison than not. It is a big money business now, and a cancer to humanity.
Did you mean to say “230” years ago? Prisons have been in use for at least 2000 years. There were prisons in Rome during the time of Christ.
"Prisons" as we know them today is a recent institution. This is the point. Every ancient society had "prisons" at that time, but almost only to hold criminals while their sentences were not applied. You can see that from the Roman Empire with the spectacle of deaths in the coliseum to death at the stakes in the Middle Ages. A long tradition of punishing the body even though the space of "prisons" already exists. Again, prison as we know it today is a new instrument.
thank you ashley. thankyou thankyou thankyou. the prison system is an institutionalised cruelty, akin to slavery, that we are loathe to admit to and take responsibility for. but it is time to call the emperor out on this one. cruelty to animals is unacceptable. grrrr
Maybe christ was really in the usa
Do you think that the prisons are gather them up put them in nets sound the horns
This video really doesn’t go into detail about rehabilitation
And yet, she utters not one single word about how much race greatly influenced the development of prisons, then as now.
Humans playing God telling others what they can and can't do
What on earth are you on about? let me educate you about my country good ole England. 1166 Henry II builds prisons. 1215 Magna Carta signed by King John. 1300s people who refuse to be tried by jury are put in prison. conditions are primitive and prisoners sleep on bare earth and given bread and water every other day. 1400s Houses of corrections are established to control a growing vagrancy problem, the "idle poor" are locked up and punished for "laziness". 1600s inmate numbers soar. There is a growing reluctance by juries to send people to the gallows for petty crime. The alternative is to offer criminals a pardon if they join the army or navy. I could go on but you get my drift, you saying prisons are only 200 and something years old is absolute rubbish.
No. American prisons are estimated to be 230 years old!
Tf
So i looked up Dr. Rubin. As I am a young professional in the cj world, her views are thoroughly worthless. Her background page at UHM shows she has no practical field experience therefore her opinions and conclusions are theoretical at most. Hard pass.
No field experience? Should she have been locked up in the Bastille for stealing the governor’s bread 240 years ago?
this lady is not a public speaker
Yes she is. She is a great speaker and one of my favorite professors in college.
my guy she literally just did what is defined as public speaking
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So i looked up Dr. Rubin. As I am a young professional in the cj world, her views are thoroughly worthless. Her background page at UHM shows she has no practical field experience therefore her opinions and conclusions are theoretical at most. Hard pass.
Yup. We have crazy radicals like this shoved down our throats on a regular basis. It's despicable. There's a reason why she's only doing a Tedx talk.