Tier 2 Tech Mistakes! Beyond All Reason Guide & Gameplay

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Beyond All Reason Gameplay - Check out BAR for FREE here: www.beyondallreason.info/
Map: Bismuth Valley 8v8
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  • I would def be down for a widget video, I have been trying the game out. Would be dope to see the ranges like that.

    @apcfire@apcfire11 ай бұрын
  • Delighted you're posting so often on BAR and especially with commentary (much more insightful for us). I have high hopes that this game upon future release will make a difference for the RTS genre and you as well by extension :D

    @remyxremus@remyxremus11 ай бұрын
    • it for sure will, great game

      @RobertZimmer11@RobertZimmer113 ай бұрын
  • So good from Winter to put the most important information right at the start. Penguins do not have teeth.

    @seongwookhong6608@seongwookhong660811 ай бұрын
  • I think the math point you wanted to make and kinda trailed of midway between was: 4000 metal until you get something back from going T2 eco while on a T1 eco (say 20 metal per second) means for 200 seconds (~3,5 minutes out of a game that is at that point maybe going for 10 minutes!) you're not contributing to holding the line.

    @the1Blind@the1Blind11 ай бұрын
  • Really enjoying 4v4 or 8v8 maps, especially with back and forth or nukes. Love your commentary Winter, keep BAR videos coming.

    @thepretender3996@thepretender399611 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for returning to this format! It's great!

    @bluu.0111@bluu.011111 ай бұрын
  • Been enjoying the commentaries and breakdowns of your games and the pros, keep it up!!

    @BigSteve2167@BigSteve216711 ай бұрын
  • Lua stands for lua. That is the name of the programming language these widgets are programmed in.

    @krux02@krux0211 ай бұрын
    • Lua is a scripting language designed to be embedded in something like a game engine or like adobe products, it's high performant for a scripting language. Lua is developed in Puerto Rico and means 'moon' in Portuguese.

      @frydac@frydac11 ай бұрын
  • Really good guide, the highlighting of Energy being a critical factor is great and an oft overlooked issue.

    @woarl@woarl11 ай бұрын
  • I was really paying close attention when you were talking about the build power point you were making. I would love to see a video about build power and some strategies around how to utilize it effectively.

    @jdave16@jdave1611 ай бұрын
  • When the spring UI fails for some unknown reason, "/luaui reload" usually gets you back on track :-)

    @XtaReplay@XtaReplay11 ай бұрын
    • Thanks, i was just looking for a comment like this!

      @no_body5146@no_body514611 ай бұрын
  • Woo I've been on a kick of odd rts games it's nice to see more commentary from you.

    @DrenKillfree@DrenKillfree11 ай бұрын
  • the bit at the end with the forced cinematic mode happened to me in a game I was playing against bots. I had to pause to take care of something and when I came back it became that. Some kind of glitch with the pause button for sure that somehow causes the HUD to disintegrate until the match ends.

    @appleslemons9745@appleslemons974511 ай бұрын
  • thank you for another great guide

    @Temmie444@Temmie44411 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for video Winter!

    @jonathandavidvermeulen4027@jonathandavidvermeulen402711 ай бұрын
  • If you hold alt while reclaiming a building it'll reclaim all of that building in the circle. Helps getting rid of old solars. Also, this works if you want to rez the units in a zone and only reclaim the scrap on the ground (hold alt and hover the scraps and make a circle) Loving the coverage and tips!

    @bryanheffner4057@bryanheffner405711 ай бұрын
    • I can’t get this to work myself lol. Maybe it broke?

      @DKD30387@DKD30387Ай бұрын
  • Winter: "Dont die Carl!" Carl: "TY" great communication 😂

    @leendert2029@leendert2029Ай бұрын
  • Keep’em coming man I suck at this game but I love playing it. I’m sorry to my teammates

    @mikeceez123@mikeceez12311 ай бұрын
  • You learn quick, great guide. Glad you dropped sumos for the best unit in ze game : fiends

    @leisurecorp@leisurecorp11 ай бұрын
  • So interesting watching several of the BAR KZhead channels and hearing differing opinions on wind vs. solarearly on. Obviously on a low wind map there's no choice. I guess I like solar because I hate to stall with low wind which causes me stress out and to make mistakes. Of course I'm also an idiot playing 1v1 AI games on huge maps thinking I'm going to our APM a quad core i7 with dual threading.

    @bitslammer@bitslammer11 ай бұрын
  • That reclaim field widget is very impressive by whoever made it, it's not a trivial problem at all.

    @recarsion@recarsion11 ай бұрын
  • just subbed. great content

    @superfunion@superfunion11 ай бұрын
  • Im always looking forward your game n gameplay. Really help for us noobs

    @akukuat101@akukuat10111 ай бұрын
  • About 14 mintues in game, before the t2 con ferry back for fusion, I'd like to build 1-3 t2 pop-up turrets. Think of it as a planetary fortress at the fourth ^^

    @Xn0VV7hj31ph@Xn0VV7hj31ph11 ай бұрын
  • A real easy target i have found for raid is the construction turret : they have low health and explode and if you destroy them all you just cripple the build power

    @fabienherry6690@fabienherry669011 ай бұрын
    • This is why I space out my generators and con turrets so they don't all explode in case some enemy units was able to sneak past the front line.

      @clonezero_RR@clonezero_RR11 ай бұрын
    • @@clonezero_RR It's still a pretty decent target also transporting turret is such a great mechanic 200 build power transportable

      @fabienherry6690@fabienherry669011 ай бұрын
    • @@fabienherry6690 Haven't done that myself yet mainly because I don't use air till late game myself. Probably too high level of a tactic for me though.

      @clonezero_RR@clonezero_RR11 ай бұрын
    • @@clonezero_RR T1 lab don't cost to much 690 so around the price of a good T2. I have a strat where i rush T2 and air lab i deliver T2 const to my entire team at around 11 minutes (and like IN their base ^^ )

      @fabienherry6690@fabienherry669011 ай бұрын
  • Would be rlly interesting too see your Unit groups to see how u manage ur units.

    @thedarkguardian4203@thedarkguardian42036 ай бұрын
  • First, to do mistakes.

    @fededevi1985@fededevi198511 ай бұрын
  • nice

    @manumaster1990@manumaster199011 ай бұрын
  • Is there any sheet about minimum net resource requirement when constructing building like Lab or AFUS?

    @highping100@highping10011 ай бұрын
  • Hey Winter, small casting feedback: i like watching the battles, especially the backline runbys or bomber runs. On player cam you often look away once you sent units in that direction (i assume because the problem is solved or micro is not worth it.) So if i want to see what happened i have to speculate based on what ruins i see later on. Also if you zoom in i have no idea what i might be missing, so i prefer big zoom ins on stuff you want to highlight.

    @leoyoman@leoyoman11 ай бұрын
  • Liking all the BAR Content Winter...keep it coming. Also can't wait for your Legacy of the Void Nightmare run when that releases.

    @apcfire@apcfire11 ай бұрын
  • LUA is the Portuguese word for "moon", I dont know why they choose this name, but this is a programming language designed in the 90s by a team of brazillians. Largely used, so far as I know, for scripting and not actually for making applications.

    @Mentox2@Mentox211 ай бұрын
  • BAR content OP

    @dskinnerify@dskinnerify11 ай бұрын
  • Its amazing how many people argue about stuff that they can google in 5 seconds. The teeth like structures in a penguins mouth are not technically teeth just like a narwhal doesn't technically have a horn.

    @T0tenkampf@T0tenkampf11 ай бұрын
  • I did not know that air transports could move buildings, that's great

    @thedofflin@thedofflin11 ай бұрын
    • Only certain ones, but yes. They'll be tagged as 'Transportable'

      @Draeckon@Draeckon11 ай бұрын
  • Really after planetary annihilation with spherical maps the square with borders doesn't cut it

    @okakokakiev787@okakokakiev78711 ай бұрын
  • I like

    @kurtremislettmyr7108@kurtremislettmyr710811 ай бұрын
  • I cant find the reclaim field highlight I downloaded all widgets from the discord but don't see it in the widget selector

    @nurulabser8720@nurulabser872010 ай бұрын
  • Hey man. I need help. My construction bots that come from factory dont go to waypoint. When they come out they stay at factory and assist it to build. How can i change that

    @Gotovinarules@Gotovinarules11 ай бұрын
  • We all know that an Artosis Pylon in SC2 is one that, if destroyed, renders your critical tech structures and infrastructure non-functional. Should we start using the terminology of an "Artosis Fusion Reactor"??? @Wintergaming @WinterSC

    @fibonacci112358steve@fibonacci112358steve11 ай бұрын
  • LUA stands for LUA: Unusual Acronym

    @atrtsh@atrtsh11 ай бұрын
  • Not sure if that was it but one the F keys toggles the UI, I think it's F5 or F6.

    @theonlyD@theonlyD11 ай бұрын
  • Are you disabling the smaller default health bars whilst using big health bars? By default I'm seeing both.

    @Covert0ne@Covert0ne11 ай бұрын
  • F5 is hide / show the UI, but I am sure you tried that already..

    @CJTongue@CJTongue11 ай бұрын
  • Plz do an armada guide

    @unbearablysmug2437@unbearablysmug243711 ай бұрын
  • why don't you use the cloaked bots more for line of sight?

    @Blottingpaper@Blottingpaper11 ай бұрын
  • like #336. not far to go for the magical number. 476?

    @mikaelwidlund4123@mikaelwidlund412311 ай бұрын
  • Save 500 + 2900 with a donated t2 con? How do you save the factory cost, don't you have to build a t2 factory still for t2 units anyway? I always assumed the donated t2 con was just to start getting a higher metal income before sinking the factory costs.

    @DrLeeX@DrLeeX11 ай бұрын
    • The payback time on advanced metal extractors is so fast (about 6 metal per extractor per 2 metal deposit per second), that just getting them out a couple minutes faster means that you get about 600 metal per deposit. On this map, winter has 10 deposits. (we will ignore the cost of the extractor because you are paying that eventually anyways, but note that the cost is real and large, so having your money sunk in a factory will delay your upgrades even if the factory doesn't cut into your ability to make build power. If he had just spammed T2 units and build power, donated 1k metal to his team mate to give him a constructor and this resulted in him getting his mexes, on average, 2 minutes fast, this would be a net gain of about 6000 metal, even after subtracting the 1k metal you would give to your teammate to downpay your constructor and speed up his tier 2 timing. this would EASILY pay for his tier 2 factory, and subsidize his tier 1 unit spam in a major way.

      @timmietimmins3780@timmietimmins378011 ай бұрын
  • I suck at this game butlove watching pros

    @gregglazewski7557@gregglazewski755711 ай бұрын
  • The draw in your chair is from another channel who does game comedy? XD

    @rodrigoe.martinmusri8775@rodrigoe.martinmusri87759 ай бұрын
  • Penguins do not have teeth.

    @doctorpinguins@doctorpinguins11 ай бұрын
  • How do I get good, what's the best way to practice, I keep jumping in big multiplayer games and just failing to scale eco, just completely stall out after 5 minutes

    @myhearn@myhearn11 ай бұрын
    • Advance solar + metal converters helped me alot. I always build them in pairs ( 1solar+1 converter) whenever I have metal to spare and it helps me work my way up to t2. If there are bodies of water nearby, tidal generators are better as most maps you get around 20en for 90 metal. Reclaiming nearby trees are useful if you have energy issues.

      @clonezero_RR@clonezero_RR11 ай бұрын
    • @@clonezero_RR advanced solar and metal maker is very inefficient, the pay back on it is like 10 mins or something stupid. should never try to get eco by spamming adv solars and converters

      @ElmerFuddBAR@ElmerFuddBAR11 ай бұрын
    • the best way to get good is to watch your replays when you lose your lane or game. when you lose, watch what the enemy does different to you and then try to replicate it.

      @ElmerFuddBAR@ElmerFuddBAR11 ай бұрын
    • a piece of advice is, do not build too much energy in the early game. metal spent on energy buildings is metal that is not spent on units. you need more units than your enemy so you can kill them and reclaim the dead metal and take more metal spots on front.

      @ElmerFuddBAR@ElmerFuddBAR11 ай бұрын
    • if you can spend your metal, if your metal stores are going down then you have enough energy. if metal is going up then build more build power (cons/construction turrets), if energy starts to go down while metal is going up then build more energy buildings, then once you have energy check if metal starts to go down, if it does not go down then build more con turrets. just repeat this process. as i said, do not over build energy in early game, that is metal for units to kill enemy. also do not over build build power (cons/con turrets) as that is metal you can use for units. as i said, if metal stores are going down then you have enough of what you need. make units, kill enemy, micro units, reclaim metal. make units, kill enemy micro units and reclaim metal. use some of that metal to invest in more eco ready to transfer into t2 when you get enough metal reclaim to do it.

      @ElmerFuddBAR@ElmerFuddBAR11 ай бұрын
  • Wasn't this based on or an homage to "Total Annihilation" from way back in the day?

    @BalonKai@BalonKai11 ай бұрын
    • Yes. BAR originally stood for 'Balanced Annihilation Reloaded', basically a remake of a remake.

      @OryAlle@OryAlle11 ай бұрын
    • Of course. Chris Taylor the creator of Total Annihilation actually showed up in the 4v4 tournament stream the other day, he was pretty emotional about his designs living on like this. kzhead.info/sun/ksiqabyvnZpqm2w/bejne.html

      @isitanos@isitanos11 ай бұрын
    • Ah ok cool! I thought it looked familiar.

      @BalonKai@BalonKai11 ай бұрын
  • When do u get Tier 2? Right before a massive push comes down the lane. Murphy's Law of Annihilation.

    @DrownedLamp@DrownedLamp11 ай бұрын
  • F*"$ it we'll do it live WE'LL DO IT LIVE!!

    @andyderp6473@andyderp647311 ай бұрын
  • But why doesnt a nice gentleman or lady like a penguin, why dont they have teeth? That would be peak horror :D

    @JokeofAllButts@JokeofAllButts11 ай бұрын
  • You broke the game damn it!

    @Komyets@Komyets11 ай бұрын
  • Ok but when do penguins go T2?

    @rekrn12345@rekrn1234510 ай бұрын
  • I always skip t1 units and just jump straight to t2

    @GrrillaFinger@GrrillaFinger11 ай бұрын
    • As long as your allies know you're rushing t2 you can sell t2 constructors tell your allies you're selling t2 as you're building the lab and make your allies who donated 500 metal a t2 constructor. It helps you get t2 earlier and your allies will appreciate the increased metal income from t2 metal extractors

      @andrewgreeb916@andrewgreeb91611 ай бұрын
  • LIKE THE VIDEO! we at least need 474

    @doodiezgrandpa6520@doodiezgrandpa652011 ай бұрын
  • Do penguins have teeth

    @phosphate66@phosphate6611 ай бұрын
  • F5 turns the UI in and off

    @dmytrolytvyn4477@dmytrolytvyn447711 ай бұрын
    • With the Grid menu it seems to be Ctrl+F7

      @dmytrolytvyn4477@dmytrolytvyn447711 ай бұрын
  • 00:30 Who cares about T2!? Want moar Penguin facts! 🐧🥰🤪

    @thomaskositzki9424@thomaskositzki942420 күн бұрын
  • We got 473 likes 👍

    @bitemyassets7432@bitemyassets743211 ай бұрын
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