2022 Volkswagen Golf R (DSG) - POV First Impressions
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MSRP: $44,445
MPG: 23 city / 30 highway
Horsepower: 315 hp @ 5,600 rpm
Engine: 2.0 L 4-cylinder
Curb weight: 3,481 lbs
Torque: 310 lb-ft @ 2,000 rpm
Transmission: 7-speed automatic
0:00 Interior & Exterior Walkaround
14:27 Driving Impressions
31:21 Final Thoughts
35:33 Sound System Test
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MSRP: $44,445 MPG: 23 city / 30 highway Horsepower: 315 hp @ 5,600 rpm Engine: 2.0 L 4-cylinder Curb weight: 3,481 lbs Torque: 310 lb-ft @ 2,000 rpm Transmission: 7-speed DCT Automatic
u better do some reviews during night
@@user-cx5wq9rn6e oh yeah, there’s a night driving video coming on this soon!
Yes, with the interior lighting and the head light system (the cool R logo projecting from the side mirrors) this is a cool night crawler.
That Golf R has similar performance values at lower price and dare to think this is on a par with "premium rivals". Thanks @TheTopher for sharing this complete POV, I enjoyed a lot the sound of the 2.0 tsi engine!!!
Can u please do a Hyundai i20N review? I’ll be very thankful 😁
I'd love to speak to the interior designers for literally 5 minutes and just ask them if what clown college they graduated from.
I've owned my MK8 R for 2 weeks now. I think everything is really over blown except the climate controls. The MK7 had a touch screen radio too. The capacitive buttons on the steering wheel are not overly sensitive so it's very easy to tell when you're pushing them. I've never hit something on accident. The climate not being always on the screen drives me nuts. Also I can't fathom how they justified not back-lighting the quick touch panel below the screen. My passenger literally can't change the volume at night.
I sat inside on of these in a showroom, so many touch controls. Here in the US these are pretty expensive.
Yeah, after living with this the lack of multimedia controls are the most annoying part. CarPlay apps only all week!
@@Coronerlex Touch screen is fine for infotainment but not for HVAC.
@@mustasheolll2020 yeah with markups and the current markets they are hella expensive.v
Can't get enough of R content lately. The soundaktor is much more prominent sounding in this generation. Upshifts seems more aggressive as well. Great overall video on the driving aspect in the new R. The pure white pops on the MK8 R but would look nicer in the Oryx White Pearl, imo.
Not a big fan of the Soundaktor, at least on my Mk7R. I ended up coding my exhaust valves open and turning Soundaktor all the way off.
I definitely love the Oryx white on my 2016 Golf R. It’s odd that they didn’t include a hood prop on this generation.
@@traxxas911 another cost cutting measure. 😢
@@jackwicker yeah , it’s super easy to turn off the soundaktor
@@jackwicker had my 7.5 R off but i thought i drive a 1.2 tsi with the pure sound 😂 had to set it to max. 50%
Totally agree with you on the physical buttons thing. I’m all for new tech but I can change the temp in my car and the direction of the air in half the time someone in a Tesla or any car with an iPad could. Some things are better left untouched
That and the speedometer thing. With all the innovation taking place, having a windshield speedo would be amazing on newer Teslas.
It's not new technology, it's cost cutting.
Topher's reviews are must see, he's just the best out there
You can add the climate controls as a widget to the home screen as well which gives you a lot of the buttons you need without having to go into the climate menu
it's a 🚗 not 💻
@@mentalhospital1701 it’s not VW’s fault you’re bad at using technology
@@ben_duff It is VWs fault for making it impractical and bad UI design
@@JayyyCloud works fine if you’re not dumb
@@ben_duff Meatriding a corporation is crazy.
Great video. Thanks for the extensive POV drive while messing with various settings.
I really like this new Golf R. The owner of my gym just got one of these and theyt are sweet looking rides. Much more sculpted and aggressive in person.
Best in depth review to date. Thanks dude!
The Topher is getting some skills sliding , having fun with the car 😃. I like it. Very pleasant review, nice calm tone of the voice. Keep up the good work!
Best review I’ve seen of the new golf R. I’m new to this channel and loving it already
I think my only complaint is no volume knob or dedicated button for the heated/cooled seat controls. I’d like smaller factory rims with more side wall but hey I can fix that easily.
Woah. Seriously good in-depth review. Outstanding job. Cheers 🍻
This car is one of the top two cars in looking to buy within the next year. My only draw back is the infotainment system. I feel like they’ll (hopefully) change some of the UI within the 2023 model.
VW not illuminating the HVAC control bar for night driving seems like an odd oversight.
Agree, although when driving the voice control actually works great for me so I rarely touch the controls. Simple commands like set X degrees and set auto ac aggressiveness to low/med/high work very well and cover 99% of cases. Seems the HVAC controls are an array of IR sensors to support sliding, which left no obvious room for backlighting. While gimmicky at first, the combo of hey vw for car things like hvac and hey siri/google for music/nav works surprisingly great once you get to used to it. After a few months I actually find myself annoyed with other cars when saying 'hey car, the rear window is fogging up' doesn't turn on the defroster temporarily.
@@MrZhilvinas very insightful. Thanks.
Same company that made the power button spin with the volume knob for ages. Everyone with OCD knows exactly what I’m talking about. I genuinely don’t know how VW let that one happen
I actually think it might be so it doesn’t reflect into the screen at night. That, or they’re just being cheap
@@byfedericojimenez The constant balancing of volume from the knob and wheel controls is a skill
you finally reviewed it thank you !!!
I've been waiting for this review from The Topher!! Absolutely love all your car reviews, so down to earth with realistic expectations and real World, everyday driving. After watching I'll be keeping my Focus RS. Direct Injection only with no mutli port fuel injection is a recipe for carbon build up on the intake valves. Just like my RS. It's been good so far but I don't put a ton of miles on it. A good walnut shell blasting will clean up the valves nicely though so it's manageable. Right now I've got my eye one a Mustang Mach 1... it uses a naturally aspirated V8 with dual port injection, has that wonderful Tremac manual transmission and is different enough in exterior design to separate itself from the regular Mustang GT. To me Ford has a winning and reliable package that will have parts available forever. AND it will be one of the last great V8's since they're all vanishing soon. Which really sucks... love my AWD hot hatch tho! So nimble and practical in all weather conditions.
Sweet! And thanks 🙌 I never had an issue with carbon build up in my MK6 but I drove it long distances and with higher revs once it warmed up. Short trips can be a different story. The Mach 1 is amazing, only drove it briefly on track but it’s nearly a perfect mustang formula. Until then keep enjoying your Focus RS!
Catch cans can do wonders for DI engines.
I'm planning on keeping my 2010 Lexus ISF for years but seeing these new MY performance cars make it so hard not to upgrade. That tech in the interior is sooo nice...
From 1 ISF owner to another, keep the ISF or upgrade to a KIA Stinger or Audi A6 TDI or Supercharged. You won't be disappointed with either.
@@louiehelou7335 I was actually looking at a Kia Stinger GT2. It’s nice but at the end of the day it’s a Kia. Yes I’m being a badge snob I know lol. I really like the 2020 BMW M340i as well.
@@xCkillaxC the 340 b58 engine is ample and a weapon that is available for outrageous tuning. I want a 340 aswell..or 140
awesome vid. I'm not even in the market for a new vw but wow do I want this now. Very descriptive in depth review! 5/5
The interior is so aesthetic... I absolutely love it....
i was a jealous about those new cars with their infotainment system when i had my mustang 14 GT . now i drive a i30N - and im thankful i dont have all those touchscreens everywhere... i feel like there should be a 50-50 mix between buttons & displays. cheers from germany
Love your videos and I love that journalists like you are pointing out the flaws in the infotainment. Because of these flaws, I picked up a 2021 Mazda3 Turbo Hatch (also because of your terrific review). If they can get this figured out, maybe I'll be back as a paying customer.
Lol these cars have little in common
How do you like the Mazda3 Turbo Hatch?
@@macjoseph2375 I sold it after 5 months of ownership. It was a very nice car with a ton of tech and a ton of power, but the 2.5T is straight out of the Mazda CX-9 and is tuned for people that want low end grunt, not revs. That coupled with underwhelming rear seating room and lackluster handling (my last 3 cars were a mk7 GTI, NA Miata and a 2019 GLI) sealed its fate. I decided to get my affordable dream car and factory ordered a new Miata Club. I love driving that car.
@@AndreThompson925 interesting! Well hopefully everything works out. 👌
@@macjoseph2375 So far so good.
Just ordered mine! Am super excited 😆
In all honest, although it is using a lot of touch controls, I feel like their way of implementing it is kind of intuitive. Ive only been in it once already and I got used to it immediately after spending a bit in it.
I am a Subaru guy, this is my first time seeing an in-depth look at the R from a buyer's perspective (thanks Subaru for getting rid of the STI! Anyone in the market for a Hyperblue? Jk...for now), this thing is BEAUTIFUL! The exterior is stunning, the interior even more so. I LOVE that minimal design.
Wait, Subaru got rid of the STI??? What’s wrong with these manufacturers.
@@gasmoney6733 Yeah, they're not making another I.C.E. STI, they "hope to keep the spirit of the STI alive in their brand" but no more non-electric STI. End of the EJ, the rumble, and now it can rest with it's Evo brothers.
I’ve got a 2020 WRX premium in world rally blue. Love it, glad I bought it as the new one looks trash.
@@Deanooooo subarus are not that great they used to be in the 90s early 2000s
@@nightingale4369 why?
Man the motor sound is so pleasing to hear haha, such a nice car
Thank you. Appreciate the video. Definitely saw enough to know this isn't the car for me. But I'm sure others are now convinced it'd be perfect for them.
I love all these car reviews. Too bad there are zero cars to actually buy
Oh, there's plenty of cars to buy, they're just being sold at over twice their MSRP
@@bubbleman2002 all the golf r here in toronto are all sold out before they even came out
@@bubbleman2002 it isn’t possible to get one of these
You can get one of you want it but, you will have to wait. I called my dealer over six months ago and they put my name on a list. They notified me when they had one coming in and I put deposit down to reserve it. Also, there was some mark up but, I wouldn't say it was unreasonable. Dealers will markup cars especially when there's scarcity and demand.
@@thebiggestoneyouveverhad orders are closed down and there was over a year wait when they were open and it’s not possible to just go into a dealer to buy one. Now, it is absolutely impossible. This car is not obtainable no matter how much money someone has.
I really appreciate VW still offering a manual in the R, but I think this is the way to have it. That DSG is unbelievably good and matches the character of the car really well.
Tough week, thanks for the video!
Appreciate the review. Love my 2018 R...looks like the mk8 is a nice one.
It's nice that it holds gears in nurburgring but I find it annoying that it doesn't hold gears simply in manual mode. Manual mode should allow you to bounce off the rev limiter all day long.
The car mechanically seems amazing, the engine trans suspension all that seems great, but god damn the infotainment system seems horrid, a lot of poking at the touch screen for basic options which would annoy me a lot in day to day use
Rather than poking at buttons for basic functions? Have you actually sat in one and used it?
@@BIGGIEBAG-XL Yes, buttons are better.
@@BIGGIEBAG-XL not in a golf 8 no but I've used others and prefer the buttons a lot more, if nothing else they are tactile
@@BIGGIEBAG-XL Capacitive touch sucks because you have to look at it to know where it is. Buttons can actually be felt.
@@AsAngelsFall221 yeah not to mention if you accidentally touched the wrong button, you now had to look for the Back/Cancel button then double the distraction
Man this car looks beautiful inside and out, volkswagens always have had both really good and clean.
I have a mk6 GTI and I've always been very snobby about the idea that it was the last one that was built in germany, as opposed to the newer versions being built in mexico. But, I've loved the changes they've made to the exterior and interior alone. More modern, sharp, clean lines. And the upgrade on a few other things really makes me think about getting a new model. Great video, thanks for making it more difficult for me ;)
THe Golf GTI and R models are built in GERMANY only NOT Mexico. even the Mk8,
@@MrRonan3 you may want to check that. The mk8 has been moved back to Germany. Mk7 was made in Mexico for the North American market.
@@ronjoe1 you may be right about the USA market.i don't know about that.perhaps that is why they are cheap there. all our cars when we lived in the UK and for the last 17 years in Australia. have all been built in Germany. my VW dealer informed me. all GTI and R models are built in Europe,
@@MrRonan3 logistically it makes sense. But I’m glad the newer models are all being built in Germany. Might make me more inclined to buy 😜
liar 🐶
Personally I prefer the previous Golf R over this one. Something about the interior of this one that makes it seem like they were too interested in cost cutting.
Exactly, instead of integrating physical controls, buttons and knobs into this interior, VW decided to cheap out and built all functions into the infotainment, and the lack of physical controls especially to control important functions like drive modes, climate or volume, it really cheapens this interior.
Best review of the golf 8 r
i’m so excited to use paddles for gears, i’m 18 with a 2016 ibiza fr and i can’t wait to use a car like this, a quick hatch with the power of not quite a super car but a feel to it like ur driving one
You know he's a true professional when he can mess with controls while passing a huge oncoming truck 🤣
Any chance we can get an in-depth video of the quirks of travel assist? Haven't seen too many video of it lately. I'm curious how it handles the car in front of you coming to a full stop for traffic, how it handles being cut off, how it handles driving from 60mph to 0mph (traffic) with no lead car in front slowing you down. Also what is the minimum amount of pressure or hand placement you can do to get rid of the message
If it works the same or better than my mk7 version for that , you will like it. It comes to a full stop if required
That sounds amazing
One of my dream cars for sure.
Fast car, complicated controls, what could go wrong? That said I I want one!👍
Same, like he said you get use to the system , does it need a volume button, yep, but thats fine
zero chance I buy one of these at that price and the obvious distractions of constantly tapping away if that's center head unit. maybe in two years after first upgrade they will listen to everyone's complaints? The new civic is looking like a great choice at this point. Waiting for the Integra
i just stumbled here love your reviews!
Nice review! Saw one at a dealer asking 10k over sticker! Went to another that charges right at MSRP. I’m on the list…could be a while
Hey Topher! Love your channel and have watched alot of your videos. I am currently doing some research on a couple potential vehicles to purchase. Looking at getting maybe this golf r with the dsg, the 2020+ Honda Civic Type R, or the Audi S3. Couple questions. I know the S3 and Golf R are very similar, S3 infotainment appears to be a lot easier to use, a little less HP and less cargo room. I noticed you didnt mention fuel economy numbers for the Golf R. Did you have that info for your time with the vehicle? Out of the 3 vehicles I mentioned, what would be your choice and why? Thanks so much for the great vids and I look forward (hopefully) to your response!
MPG: 23 city / 30 highway
1 note about the S3, it has a regular Haldex AWD, it didn’t receive the same system as the mk8 Golf R, they saved it for the RS3 instead
Man, you really know how to make me want to upgrade to the MK8 R. I can live with infotainment for the experience, this seems like a pretty significant tech upgrade over the MK7.5. Gotta go manual though
What'd you end up doing?
@@HtheKing the cheapest I’ve seen them is $53k I think $8k over MSRP is too much for what these are worth
great vid, love the pops n bangs 🍿
this is good, think of this car like a budget porche,, 315 HP, With great handling, this is my now dream car
I don't get all the the hate for the infotainment. Maybe initially? But once you've setup the car as you like it on day 1... Who cares? Then you're just enjoying the car for what it is, a practical speed hatch. Super fair review!
Agreed!
Agree. I'm just over a week into ownership and I was used to it within a day.
Whereas I cannot fathom how anyone could find this infotainment a good product. It's total distraction behind the wheel and not intuitive at all. I'll keep my 7.5 and be happy.
I was torn between the mazda 3 turbo hatch and this. I was leaning more towards the mazda mainly because of reliability and overall quality and obviously the price and the red seats lol i wanted to have my mind set and i really tried to convince myself that was the one i was gonna buy then i watched this....i love that interior not the biggest fan of the haptic stuff but i love the way it looks and the way it MOVES that thing sounds amazing and its quick its quiet when u need it and loud and fast when you want it sucks that ill have to buy premium gas only but i think itll be worth it still not making a decision though...not until that new type r comes out
Have you test driven the Mazda yet? It’s not even close dynamically to even the GTI. I’ve been test driving all of them lately. Ordered the ‘R’ 🙃. Go drive them! It’s worth it. If you can’t find a MK8. Even try test driving a MK7, it’s still MUCH better.
Mazda is shit. Stick with a gti/R
I miss my MK6 R. I will be looking at this one
Love how you blurred your speed. Glad I live nearby Germany to go sometimes on the autobahn.
Great review. I was thinking of upgrading my Golf Sportwagen to the new GTI (R is too pricey), but this review confirms that the user interface is a damnable flaw. Another reviewer noted that VW designers said that they modeled the Infotainment after the iPad... now whether that's true or not, I don't know. It trucks though, as it's got the mobile tablet feel to it. Insane. An iOS (or Andriod) tablet experience consumes a significant amount of attention -which is why it's frowned upon, and in many jurisdictions, illegal- to use such devices while driving. Fastening the damn thing to the dash doesn't make it less problematic. The joyful use of a modern tablet on a Saturday morn while slurping down syrupy flapjacks lounging on the sofa with intermittent flatulence -yeah, that works. But how could any rational designer think that such an experience is fitting to fasten to the dash of a 4000 lb machine making 315 horsepower? My first car was an '85 Prelude Si... seeing this from VW definitely spurs me on to rekindle my feelings for Honda.
p.s. let's just call this 'Tainment-Gate.
Give Hyundai a shot with the Kona or Elantra N. It’s the perfect alternative to the MK8 although theyre not hatches
@@AS-oo4gv Thanks. Agreed, those options look strong.
It’s around 3400lbs and they make around 340hp in reality
Where are you getting 4000 lb from?
I’m surprised that the launch didn’t seem all that fast. I’m curious if it felt any quicker than it looked?
Estimated around 4.3 0-60. Thats pretty quick, whether you felt it or not lol.
Motor week got 4.1
They've hit 3.9 with LC
Cool review, thank u!
VW kicked this one out of the park. Excellent vid bro!!
Love this car. The real challenge isn’t the infotainment system, it’s finding one for less than $10,000 over msrp lol Also, I am definitely curious how driving the 6spd manual version of this will be while messing with the infotainment system. I agree with you. I don’t think we’ll See knobs back in these cars again until the chip shortages are behind us. I just hope they offer frequent updates to the system as they work out the kinks…. The real question is. Do you think it’s worth the extra money over a gti?
Driving a manual this week! I’ll let you know if I survive!
@@TheTopher how was it compared to the auto?
Alright which had the interior design first, the Elantra or the Golf? Also totally agree on the climate controls, they need to be physical. Ironically packing everything into a touchscreen doesn't actually make it more intuitive.
997 Porsche
The Elantra did it better with buttons
My dream car is the GTI, my plan is to have one for a couple years and then upgrade to the Golf R however the GTI will be my go to
The interior is pretty impressive.
I see no difference between changing the climate controls and other settings in this car and texting while driving. tbh
I think they need to start introducing laws on this stuff
Man, why is VW sending everyone Pure White for reviews? I wanna see a Lapiz Blue one!
The interior looks cheap on the MK8 and the plastic A pillar covers vs fabric on the prior generations just adds to the cost cutting look. I’m sure it’s an amazing car to drive and will be testing one once the dealers actually have them.
7:50 It's a step back and bad by default because of that. Any sort of interface/buttons must be as intuitive and easy to use without looking at them in a car. With that being said, great video.
VWs have stood out for their usability and interior quality. It looks like this is no longer the case.
What’s wrong with the interior besides the touch controls
Heptic buttons…That Golf R is out of my shopping list for that specific reason. Who the heck convinced VW that’d be a good idea?…
You wont be able to buy one anyway unless you had it reserved last year
You haven't even tried it yet you judge. They made haptics feel like normal buttons they aren't overly sensitive.
@@dkdanis1340 Yes I have. There's a GTI tester available at my local dealer. And those buttons are horrible to use.
40 minute first impressions? This is what I’m here for😎😂
But.. what is that sunglass for? 😎
That thing sounds really, really good.
como eu queria que um carro como este rodasse aqui no brasil, mesmo que chegasse a precos extremos
Só importar com preços extremos kkk
I actually really like the interior of this generation of Golf R. I will admit however that its a bit too minimalist to the point that areas of the car, especially around the passenger seat, simply look empty and bland considering the expensive price. Overall, its a very clean car and I would love to have the opportunity to try out both the manual and DSG Golf R in the future.
Ah the passenger area is bland in my 7.5 as well? Lol
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For me one of vag’s Best interiors is the one of the A4 b8 and the ones similar to that. The MMI system is pretty nice and passes the rest of time. The display being placed in the dash not a tablet coming out of it. Pretty nice design, comfortable too.
As someone with a b8.5 S4, I agree 100%
You should test drive the wrx gt. I would like to hear your opinion on the controversial cvt lol Great video!
The slower hatch struts is probably because of the cold temps and not the weight of the spoiler
No. throttle house compared with GTI and with no spoiler the GTi was fine !
I agree that it should come standard with 18" wheels. No reason for a car of this size to have 19s.
Type r has 20
I like having aftermarket 19’s on my Mk7.5 R, they look awesome
Had a 2015 GTI and that was a fun car. Still miss it!
To get the green lighting on Nürburgring mode that he mentions at like 20:30 into the video - you need to set the interior lighting to "automatic" and it will switch to green when you switch into the ring mode :)
Too much touch screen is a bummer
It’s terrible… had an opportunity in a new GTI and it’s just a straight up dealbreaker
@@abdu8745 i know , i want to buy one but i need those buttons back
@@drako4684 I decided on the GR86… Goldilocks zone for me. They updated enough to make it feel like it belongs and kept it simple enough to just have a blast 👍🏽
I can’t wait to hear these screaming down the road at 3AM with fart can exhaust mods. The interior is nice for the level of car though, that’s for sure.
I'm gonna be eyeing the 2024 R model, I hear physical buttons are coming back to the steering wheel. Til then my 2019 GTI Autobahn's driving beautifully and costs so little to maintain and insurance, I'm sitting happy for another 2 years. But can't wait
on god your the only car youtuber i like watching
I hate all these screens
I read that the next generation is going back to physical buttons! Yayyyy!
This makes me excited because If cars are already this cool, by the time I can afford a car (i'm 18), they're going to be pretty dope
Sweet little hatch!
Maybe some prior journalist had their custom color set as Blue. I know in my GLI you could either A) have different colors per mode, with your custom mode having a custom color or B) have a custom color all the time.
Looks super clean but yet still remaining true to a golf, looks like it would be a great car
Looks sick!
The ESC menu will go away after a few seconds, it might be 10-30 IDK the exact number but any menu will close eventually if you don't touch it for awhile
beautiful
I like that they finally put in a torque vectoring rear differential. The R models since the first one always lacked an LSD, which made them sadly way too understeery. But I really dont like the cost cutting they did on the Golf 8. The 7 was pretty much perfect and felt WAY more high quality.
Im a freak for genuine leather but something about the silky smooth pleather in a lot of these cars, especially on the steering wheel just seem comforting to me. But we will see how they hold up in 10 years. It seems the nicer the steering wheel, the quicker they get gross. I assume most of it is pleather but i could be wrong.
wow this is actually very cool
I have the 2020 gti in the UK it's so nice to drive
i drives rlly nice i like how it sounds ive driven in it and its rlly cool
Am with you on the infotainment. Bring back fan controls.
Love all golfs 💯
great vid. I test drove a 2022 Tiguan here in Nepal the other day, and I couldn't figure out the controls just parked, let alone whilst driving. I think this is what has put me off VWs for a decade now, just the UI! For example, the automatic in the new Tiguan is anything but, and why are there paddles on a family sedan?@? Anyway, no sale there :)
this car has the best interior in its segment
For the sound. did you even adjust the bass and treble settings or just left it stock?