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I'm a HUGE fan of self sufficient energy solutions - so when I saw EcoFlow come out with a new stackable home battery back up system, I knew I had to have it. This EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra has a name as long as it is tall. The Delta Pro Ultra can stack 5 batteries tall - 30kWh per stack, and 3 stacks of batteries can be connected with a EcoFlow Smart Home Panel 2.
To be clear... "Uncle Sam" doesn't set peak load pricing. Your private, for-profit, utility company does.
Very valid point.
Nothing gets done without uncle sam's blessing.
@@thlin"uncle sam" was told by small government folks that he shouldn't regulate electricity prices. Though I agree with you, uncle Sam should interfere more to make the prices cheaper 😉
@JerryRigEverything no its not. Thats not even how utility companies in general work. If what you were agreeing with was even remotely true, they'd be trying to get you to buy as much as possible -- they do the opposite. You and the OP need to go back and do some research.
@@harmonic5107 I'll go a step further and say, medical and utilities shouldn't be for profit industries. There is plenty of room for capitalism in the consumer industry, no reason it needs to reach or leech onto basic human existence.
I like that you always convert all the units for us who are not from the united States 👌👌👍👍keep up the good work
You mean the other 96% of this planet‘s population? 😁
yeah lol@@erebostd
@@GauravYadav-qe3hn 아냐
Yes
To bad this unit is clearly meant for the US consumer market and there is no mention whatsoever of compatibility for the rest of the world...
It is nice that the company allows for their older tech to work with their new stuff. So many companies don’t do that.
Thanks, Zack, for being smart by always thinking about your international followers so you write down the international metric measurement units ❤
Crazy as always... Nice one Zac ! :D
you mean writing down the measurements that 99% of the world use?
Bathtubs per aircraft carrier
@@iris4547 Here we go again.
Exactly! This is what separates him from other "science" channels that only uses freedom units nobody understands.
I’m aware it’s an advertisement but still, damnnnnnn this tech has come insanely far over the last decade. Super cool!
Nice! I agree with you. I love anything that’s modular, stackable, and scalable!
I'm currently in the design phase for my future Tiny House on Wheels that I intend on building and living in and this system seems like a near perfect option for my off-grid solar plans! Thanks for introducing this tech to us ❤
It's like double the price of a do-it-yourself system. Just saying, you might have money like dirt and not care :)
@@sighheinrich, yeah you could always design and build your own system that does everything a self contained system does and trust that your design will get the job done. Most people don’t have the wherewithal to do that. I suppose you also build your own computers cuz it’s cheaper than buying ready made, huh? Built any automobiles lately?
Not quite an honest comparison as this ecoflow system also needs assembly and installation. Getting equivalent components from Victron and a ready made LiFePo battery like AmpereTime or Discover you'll have an equivalent system with barely more work than the ecoflow system.
@@luisaraujo4708 I always build my own when the price is 2-3x as high when buying a pre-made system. I'm both cheap and broke. As long as the options from Ecoflow etc. are 2-3 times the price, and offer lower solar input (*), slower charge times, can discharge with way less W than the DIY system, then I will always to the DIY system. You could look up Will Prowse here on KZhead and see how easy it is. I build my own computers because I then know that I chose quality components and don't end up with a "1200watt" psu with questionable safety and a screaming fan. Building your own vehicle.. I take that as a joke, we both know that would be 100.000.000 times more expensive than buying from manufacturer. * Looks like they're about to fix that, judging by the video
While I have built my own PC and worked on some small scale electronics, I am a novice when it comes to solar implementation, so the benefit of a self contained, modular energy storage system with solar capacity is the convenience of knowing that it's been done properly and my inexperience in that field won't have a negative impact on my plans
The flexibility of this system is outstanding. Great video Jerry.
the product name is warranted. this is the craziest portable power station. I've been screaming for almost two years for a portable station that can connect to the grid and here we are. Ecoflow appears to be charging a lot for this as they have not announced pricing. A DIY solution still looks best
Bugger me...thats the trick! Apply painters tape to your plasterboard in the area you want to cut a hole into...prevent the surrounding board from crumbling as you cut! Genius idea!
Should probably put a sponsored disclaimer somewhere in the intro or the title or explicitly in the description
He did say "from my channel sponsor eco flow" 30 seconds in. Though I do agree that it would be better to have a splashscreen at the beginning.
@@harmonic5107 damn i really missed that shit the first time and on the replay
@@panikk2 all good, I do agree that it was easy to miss and should have been more obvious. Or at the very least have the sponsor disclosure at the very start rather than 30 seconds in mentioned offhand.
@@harmonic5107 with how many places it feels oddly missing I can't help but feel it wasn't an oversight to have the disclaimer this buried
Great video and update as usual. I think the key to independence is food, water, and power. This may solve one problem, but the other two are still big variables in a national emergency. If you are the only house on the block with electricity, food, and water... Guess where all the neighbors will show up. I am not a prepper, but contingency planning is always wise.
It would have been a great video if the price before any discount or coupons were shown.
Most people that live off grid aren’t living in typical neighborhoods.
As my Father used to joke. "I knew my son would come in handy one day." Nice you could set your parents up like that.👍
Those are AWESOME! The modular aspect AND the Lithium Fe.
Great job on the video Zack! Thanks for making it.
Legit, this battery system arms race between all these different companies has me excited for the future of renewables. I am installing solar on my house this year and will be doing a home backup battery later on and my options for which system I want to go with have never been more plentiful.
Is this what mark Zuckerberg is using in his underground bunker?
Probably. I heard he built one for his phone teardown videos hiding from Apple.
wouldnt last long enough zuck has a big ole generator
I am gonna wait for comments 😅
Lizards, it was always lizards 🦎
His someday bunker. 😂😂 Palentir analyzed historical societal collapses and figured we would need to hit certain benchmarks for this to happen.
It really frustrates me when a company is too ashamed to show the price of their product. I went no farther because of no price. I don't understand any company that doesn't put the price out where a person can make a decision buying or not...
I agree with you 100%. Then you call him on the phone and they’re all vague about well pans and you know you know what I just wanted to know what it would cost me to do this and gave me some basics how come you can’t do that those are the ones you don’t want to do business with their scams
Although I’m not after off grid tech I love what ecoflow are doing, eventually when I get enough money saved and plenty of houses bought, I’ll buy my own house and this tech will be so cool to own, that’ll be in about 10 years.. the tech will be even cooler then and I can’t wait
man this guy never fails to inspire me to learn something new every single video.
This dude is always selling something. This channel is basically one long infomercial.
And with no price. I hate commercials without giving a price of the product or products.
I can put a price on energy independence when it costs like $30k to just to DIY this without any pro help. There is obviously a benefit for having something like this, making it much easier to stay afloat in a power outage too. I hope you can make a money's calculation for this and the break even time. The problem with my parents house is they have tile roofing and an HOA.
Man oh man, are your parents so fortunate to have such a handy man of a son! 👏🏾I do not understand the intricacy of how this works, but I understood that they are solar, portable, and work well off-grid. 🌞
I love the fact they made it compatible with a generator as well definitely gonna look into these thank you for the info
This is very interesting because I have two of the older pros and knowing they can work with a new tech is awesome. I’ve been trim to figure out if I wanted to run a Transfer switch or not but this would allow me to do both in one unit. Also, I’ve got to call you out Jerry. I passed you on 15 North in Ogden Saturday morning 6 Jan you were in your Rivian, and when I looked in my mirror while passing you, you were staring at your phone screen. Please practice phone safety when behind the wheel especially when following tractor trailers at such a close distance. I use to run over the road and have seen very bad things because of a few seconds of bad judgments.
I have the Pro as well. I've them to be fickle for anything but on-demand use. If you set it up in "UPS" mode, sometimes the AC inverter shuts off even with a full charge. These Pro ULTRAs appear to be designed for 24/7 use, so hopefully not an issue. My main concern with this panel is the same issue I have with the other ecoflow units. The ecoflow pro requires an internet connection back to homebase in order for your app to talk with it. Looking at the page for the Smart Home Panel, it seems to have the same requirement. Like please just give me a web page I can access on the local network (or bluetooth). Even if it was an add-on box that we mount next to the panel.
@yourtechjohn either you have the Pro set wrong or it's defective. I use one with my pellet stove. In EPS mode, it's not a UPS, it passes power from the grid to the pellet stove. Lose power and the battery takes over. About 20-30m. There are settings in that app to adjust the timeout for AC and device use. If you have either on a time limit, the Pro will fully shut down after the set time if no usage is detected. Do you have anything plugged in drawing power when the inverter shuts off? If bot it won't stay on to act as an EPS for the connected device. Don't you need internet for a web page? In any case, dont need the App to control devices. They make a screen for the Pro's and for the SHP2 that function just like that app on your phone. Though that is ideally another cost and less convenient.
I'm glad you specified that the panel is a "or" panel not an "and" panel. Since combining solar storage with grid becomes a much more difficult situation to deal with.
They can be connected as failover and operate when the grid is down though. There should be relays to choose between grid or battery operation.
@@whattheschmidt - That is why I said it's an "or" panel. Going grid tied, charging batteries (to offset usage) while charging then being able to island once the grid goes down (after a grid lock out) is not insignificant which would be an "and" panel.
@SwordFighterPKN are you sure it's not an "and" panel? I thought it does all of that. I plan on getting a full hybrid Inverter that can take my whole 200 amp 240V panel. Possibly the EG4 18K and battery - only issue is I don't need solar inputs since it will be in my basement, main array is on my detached garage and the 2.5kW one on my house has micro inverters.
@@whattheschmidt - You can't have more than one power source running the home at a time. So it is either the batteries/solar OR grid OR generator. That is the distinction I am making.
@SwordFighterPKN I see. You can in fact have both solar and grid though. That's how pretty much every house with solar works, a bidirectional meter. That's how mine is. The batteries cannot export without extra permission and permits to the grid must likely. But individual circuits can be grid or battery in that Smart Home Panel and the rest can be grid, at the same time.
Hey Jerry, a piece of advice regarding your solar panel. Don't forget to put metal net around the panels as pigeons like to set up nests under the panels which could cause a problems and health hazard
Pigeons don’t live outside the city… he doesn’t live in the city. Also his name isn’t jerry
We had to have Tesla come back and add the netting to ours, squirrels got under there and got to the wires.
The pigeons find a way
@@lhill4363 Lolol nah… you’re thinking of doves
@@theronhatfield8854 fried squirrel 😋
I'm a big fan of Ecoflow. They aren't necescarily the cheapest, but you can count on them for quality. This is a nice idea, which I had not heard of. All good wishes.
I know that this is kind of an infomercial but it is great to see the new technology coming in and be sort of excited about the future
Fantastic! Two questions: 1. House size 2. Total cost incl installation.
Ha right
in the Netherlands there was some big problems with people putting too many solar panels on their roof... the problem is that it makes it near impossible for firefighters to put out fires when there are too many panels on the roof.
Portable power stations are great to have for camping or power outtages! I have the Ecoflow delta 2 for camping!
I love that its stackable and portable
Jerry could you please hook up the stackable battery to your Hammer EV and try driving it
That's what I was thinking
No EV supports driving while charging?
@@exileut yeah but this is a diy system so it's probably possible
they do, it's called a hybrid @@exileut
Makes me want to get a panel like that, I want full home backup; just incase Rocky Mountain Power fails. Lucky for us our power company is actually pretty awesome.
Best thing I ever did was get a house battery. It’s an absolute game changer. It takes all the arguments naysayers have against solar panels and stamps all over them. Right now in England it’s dark and cloudy, so obviously no energy being produced by my solar panels, but I can fill the battery up with super cheap off peak grid electricity that saves me from having to pay peak electricity prices during the day.
I wish you would be a bit more transparent about how you are sponsored for this video. This is basically an ad. Did you get it for free? How much did you pay? My trust in your opinion is dependent on that.
Hullo Zack, thanks for sharing this interesting video with us! I just wish I was able to do DIY Projects these days. These batteries have great appeal for those who are not looking to be part of the Musk conglomerate! Sweet video and presented with your usual smile and competence that instills confidence in all of your projects!
was literally just looking at batteries like this before bed yesterday lol.
This is a dream setup for me! There’s just a single thing I’m worried about - the smart panel stuff. If it absolutely needs to use their app, through the internet, with no option for local network management (maybe a Zigbee radio or maybe even a web interface), I’ll be pretty disappointed I can’t really rely on my internet working 100% of the time, and I really like having all controls locally.
For sure a concern, but I'm guessing you'll still be able to manually operate the panel and battery. Just need the APP to control it. I hope
It has bluetooth
While nice, holy hell this is some BIG BIG bucks. You are paying 500% more for convenience.
At its basic level, it is expensive compared to some other options, but still a good value. The capability and expandability make it worth considering. One should factor in labor savings when comparing to a permanent installation. The smart panel is pricey, but reasonable. I don't understand why they didn't just REPLACE the existing panel. The 6KW battery is as large one would want for a portable application. For stationary systems, larger 15KW units are more practical.
The original probably had framing around it they would have had to modify not including all the drywall work they would have to do to make it look nice afterwards probably a lot more practical for a KZhead video.
There doesn't seem to be much space for breakers in the smart panel, but I haven't looked to see if there are larger panels available. Leaving the original panel in situ (and re-working the ground bonding) would allow the original panel to act as a sub panel for more breaker circuits in the future. I don't know if that factored into Zac's father's decision making or not.
Big Fan of Solar Energy Thanks for the Video Jerry
90kWh sounds like a lot but for many, in winter, it's not sufficient. Considering heating with a heat pump a mind blowing amount of kWh is required to get through the dark winter months (well over 1000kWh) or a massive amount of solar panels so it actually charges with the little light there is during winter. Factor in an EV and off-grid solely relying on solar panels becomes quite a challenge. But for a backup or for dynamic pricing this would be pretty good! Now the price ...
Depends where you live and how big your solar system is. Also depends on what your heat pump source is. A ground based heatpump would last 100 hours or more with 90kWh producing about 5kW of heat with a COP of 5 even when it is really cold. Above about 55N it gets difficult to gather enough solar for use with a heat pump, unless you have a really big battery and really big solar system. (200kWh+ and 100kW of solar) In many places in Canada and the US for example you get plenty of solar during the day even in the winter, so with a sufficienrly sized solar system you'll easily run a heatpump and even charge up some batteries when it is cold. Talking more lik that 90kWh and 25-50kW solar system.
@@rkan2 Makes sense, wish I had the space to put 50kW of solar :)
@@FrikandelBroodje69 If you don't, you probably don't need 5kW of heating either - unless you live in an apartment.
Could use a pellet or wood stove for heat if power is a concern. I have a 48000 BTU pellet stove that uses 450w on startup and runs around 200w. 2000sq house..
@@JohnSmith-wt3mw Sure, though a ground source heatpump would take less than 1kW and run year round and even provide cooling in the summer. Costs a bit more of course but no need to haul some fuel one way or the other. Also no constant fire going on somewhere..
I was hoping to see a total cost of everything.
0:02 Nobody thought of it: ❌️ No one that thought of it had the money to make or buy it: ✅️
Was waiting for another infomercial. Awesome.
Not having to depend on a grid is pretty awesome. This video should be a PSA especially with the updated technology.
Dam I just watched a 7 and a half minute product ad.
Yup.
I thought this system would cost twice what it actually does. $7500 for the battery and inverter, $1900 for the panel. Extra battery is $2800. Panels will add another $5k, depending on size and design...and you're officially off grid. It would pay for itself in 5-7 years, depending on where you're at. That's pretty wild
Thanks for the metric unit.
love your work
I keep looking if there would be a way to use these with a more traditional grid-tied solar install, maybe more info on that smart panel once the whole system is fully released.
if you find anything please post it as I am curious as well.
If you guys are interested in going solar. No money down nothing out of pocket, increase home equity, tax credits, sell off excess power to utility company, never pay a dime to them again and own your power and much more. I work for Solterian and me and my guys can make the transition as smooth as possible.
Sweet! I had an idea to design such system like 7 years ago but did not convince any investor that this stuff will soon be the thing
Always a guy claiming he thought of something but never went through with it lol
@@PoloMoney exactly!
Great video Zack. Thank you.
nice commercial
Yup, another channel to block!
Average US home uses ~30 kWh a day, so 90kwh would be ~3 days, not a month.
I'm assuming they mean it can last a month with a solar setup connected to it. Charge during the day, discharge at night, repeat. If the charge isn't enough to fill the whole battery, you'll slowly discharge the whole battery capacity. Otherwise, if you are just running on batteries alone with no charging, you are totally correct.
@@Naviator2012 @50 seconds he says “indefinitely if solar is there to charge them back up.” I think he just misplaced a decimal point when doing math in his head.
@@BraveRock their website advertises the one month number as well. It's unlikely you can charge a 90 kW battery in one day just from solar. You would need a huge solar array and ideal sunlight conditions. I suspect they are doing some creative math for their advertising though. Maybe they are assuming you are only running your lights and fridge in a power outage scenario. 90 kW is like 7 Tesla Power walls though, and you could easily get two weeks of power out of that.
Awesome, thanks for this
I would love a handful of these and my house being off grid!
"All you need is $200,000 dollars for the parts and $10,000 in installation fees and you too can have power" just like that 8 sleep system. "Just $4,000, and then you pay a monthly subscription to use it, and it's the best sleep of your life." I swear you only use crazy expensive sponsors. Is this a channel for millionaires now?
Next step: Zack diverts a nearby river to power the hydroelectric turbine he's planning on installing.
We live in the 240V part of the world, just love your conversion input on your discussions, Uncle Jerry, from Kenya 😂❤❤
all this stuff is ridiculously expensive: stackable battery at least 5k, electrical panel 5k, solar panels you would need at least 5 - another 5k. thank you for showing me some pretty expensive stuff.
I like your videos but I'd really like to see less sponsors videos. It's just you reading off a product spec sheet and we get no real indication if the product is any good or how it compares to the competition. Or even any negatives about it because I'm guessing the sponsor doesn't want to saying anything negative?
Step 1: Be extremely wealthy.
Your home view and solar cell look cozy.
Always fun to see how easy it is to install stuff on the wall in those cardbox houses in America
These types of stuff would be useful for someone to achieve financial freedom by being no longer in the mercy of high electricity prices. Too bad I'm freaking broke to buy one, and live on another side of the world where this tech is unattainable, but a man can dream.
With solar, you can start small. Buy one panel, maybe second-hand, a battery, a charge controller and some 12V lights. Then grow from there with an inverter etc. That's how I started.
Zach and Schwazerrnegger, seeing a stack of 100-pound batteries, say, “Such a convenient idea!” Everyone else: “Ok, I’m going to need a friend to help me swap them. Who do I know who is *really* buff?”
If you need help lifting 100lbs, barring severe disabilities, you need a lot more than knowing someone ELSE that's buff.
I like your projects 😊❤
I want to build a wood shop on a trailer, and one of these would be perfect for going fully off grid. Cost though just outrageously out of my range for the foreseeable future.
I understand its sponsored and all, but starting the video with "Why has no one thought of this?!" whilst other manufacturers like Kodak has had the same idea for at least 5 years, is a bit misleading. This isnt some revolutionary tech
dude might as well work for ecoflow with all these commercials he does for them lol
This video is an ad. However, I like how it's done.
One more Eco overflow video.
love how you make these videos for how the 1% live, as no normal person could ever afford any of this. your sponsored and these are nothing but sales videos really
Is this sponsored?
He says channel sponsor about 8 times.
yes
@@louis-lau thats a separate thing.
Hi Jerry !! Mindblowing DIY videos!! Congrats . Buy one C-T that is better !! 😅 Better not cheaper 😊
Love the knife. Thank you so much.
Not the first comment 😉
But indeed you most definitely are.
HOW???
PLEASE WE WANT STEAM DECK OLED NEXT
@@Ghosty_AT One of the perks being a member is you get to view all new videos hours before they are made public.
Not the last comment😂
Lol you damn right about Texas power grids 😂
Hey Zack, Would love to do something like this, but we live in Ireland, ecoflow is here in Europe, but they don’t have the Ultra available yet… any chance you could ask your friends over at ecoflow if they’ll be releasing it worldwide? Thanks!
Great video…. Mind sharing what size panels you’re running on the roof and if they’re in series or parallel?
They also make a portable seamless gas generator that fits right into the pack, and will go off and on when the solar runs out. It can charge a battery in 2-3 hrs, full. I think this would be less then 1-2 gallons of gas every couple weeks. Good alternative to a second battery or off-grid back up.
Thanks. Looks good. I'll watch to see if it's released in Australia. Jim Bell (Australia)
5:10 It's plenty for an emergency situation. In an emergency only the essentials should be used.
Did you install any rapid shutdown on your solar modules since the panels are on the roof and what brand?
Cool looking but a tad expensive for what they are,I'd still go with server rack packs instead,that said awesome video as always
Jerry, would you consider including in your inspections, breakdowns, analysis, and assessments of this sort of equipment regarding their usefulness and applicability in a SHTF, off-grid, reliability, and serviceability POV? You have conducted your reviews with real-world basis and we who have subscribed and follow you with high confidence levels in your opinions, conclusions, and credibility.
For this set up being easy, you did a lot of work (i.e., breaker instillation, etc.). So, is this something that can be plug and play? I am considering using it in my camper during longer no-sun periods, so I want the banked hours when there is only a trickle of sun for days. So, I am looking for a 'buy it, secure the panels, cut a hole and plug-it-in' set up. Is this also plug and play or will I need to add the other components, hire an electrician, etc.? Thank you.
Awesome JOB !
Love your videos❤
This is a must have for everyone but the price is the limiting factor 😂😂
I love seeing the "do not tilt" and immediately getting tilted. XD I am assuming that is to prevent any incidents from it being fully stacked up high?
Heres a thought, these will be massive for tiny homes. Youd save 10k on wiring in the home. A 12k system would be good enough for any tiny house.
Hey Jerry. Thank for the video.but can u help me to understand when you say “none of the juice will flow out to the grid”. If the solar production is more than consumption, it back feed to grid no? I have the same set up that you have, and just want to make sure that it won’t back feed to grid also. Thank you 🙏
Cool I wish those outlets worked to charge my car while also plugged into the house/solar. That way I wouldn't need to install other outlets in the garage.
I wish I could add this to my powerwall!
I love this channel! I'd love to be able to do this kinda stuff to my townhouse, but HOA...
Ahh this is awesome, I hope I can install the Ecoflow system without any issues from city or DWP, yap Los Angeles area.