Timing Chain Replacement VW Golf TSI 1.4
2023 ж. 6 Мау.
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Had a rattle sound from the timing chain when starting the car. Timing chain was stretched as shown in the video.
Had a rattle sound from the timing chain when starting the car. Timing chain was stretched as shown in the video.
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And without adverts! Nice job! Extremely helpful video.
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Good video, self explanatory stuff. Can't wait to see the next project.
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This video is fantastic, you don’t say anything but you don’t need to as you have made it so clear what your doing, nice one 👍🏼👍🏼👏🏻👏🏻😃😃
Thank you for the feedback Andy.
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1:43 😢😢
mahtava video. tällä videolla pystyy hoitamaan ketjun vaihdon
Vă salut cu respect, pentru că nu ați comentat în timpul operațiuni a fost excelent, am urmărit ,am scris pas cu pas ce trebuie să fac ,și incerc să-mi schimb singur, Distribuția la VW,vă mulțumesc pt filmuleț și numai bine.
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Thank you for taking the time to video and edit this whole thing together. I think autodata said it was a 5+ hour job so good to see that even with a few jump cuts it was less.
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Why don't you try ? Give one week , you won't be capable 😅
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All the important pats have been cut like tightening the cam bolts. Very important parts of rhe procedure
Thank you for the great video, it is helping alot.. however I have a question about the chain you changed in the engine does it cause the (EPC) light to turn on in the car tableu? Thanks in advance!
Good work 👍
Nice job
Absolutely fantastic video. I've a question I hope you can help with. My 1.4TSI [CAXA] engine has thrown a P0016 fault code three times in three days - I cleared it each time. Could this be anything other than the timing being out ? Do I need to get a timing chain kit and bite the bullet ? Thanks in advance for all help/advice.
why were timing chains introduced if they too have to be replaced like timing belts? with belts it was better as there was an interval on which they ought to be changed.
Super. 👍👍👍
To je opravdu vyborné pro motor,to čistit brusnym papírem..Ted co vam abrasiva napadalo do oleje.
Great video, thank you very much....
Thank You
What was the mileage on the car. Excellent vid thanks
nice video, am planning on doing this myself next week with the same FAI timing kit. couple of questions: did you have to drain the coolant for this job and if so how easy is it to refill and bleed the system? also do you know what type and size of socket you need for turning the crankshaft? thanks
Coolant has to be drained (you'll remove the water pump to access 2 allen key bolts). Be careful tho, I managed to kill one of the torx screws (since I didn't have any torq T wrench I just used a ratchet and socket). This happened due to being angled on the bolt because of the ratchet I used. Another piece of advice. The lower coolant hose attached to oil pan on the chain side will NOT drain all of it, once you unscrew the waterpump, the rest will flow out. With a good OBD device you can start a bleeding procedure, or you can do it the old school way: turn up the heater and let your engine idle for a while, you'll see the level dropping in no time. it's a multisocket 21mm for the crankshaft, follow the video every step. At first I thought the crankshaft locking pin was locking the crankshaft at TDC, but this is not the case (for me at least), this pin is only used to remove the crankshaft pulley.
@slimegremlin2304 Thanks for the comment. I didn’t drain the coolant, just took the pipe of the radiator at 2:39 and that’s all the coolant that came out and just topped it up at the end. I done this some time ago so I think the socket for the crank was 19mm (12point) but @M4ddTr4xx mentioned in the comments it’s 21mm so not 100% sure.
@@M4ddTr4xx I thought the water pump didn't need removing on the caxa and it only needs removing on the twincharge?
@@mrbassett4388 well I removed it on mine, I didn't have the tools to reach the 2 bolts hence my comment. But that might just be my case xD
Best video Meilleure video Bravo
Pourquoi ?
excelente video amigo, esto tambien funciona al parecer para un seat leon 1.4 tsi 2010 , saludos , gran ayuda.
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Hi brill video pal ive started mine going through the steps shown by you so you have made it a lot easier i have a streched chain it is sloppy on top so its jumped on the cams as the end cam tool pins do not line up so how do i go about getting them back into line without the cams springing round on me ? Thanks in advance
Thanks mate.. have you tried to take the sloppiness out by turning back the cams? (from cam bolts) If you can get the tool into place with slight pressure pushing it in and get one cam to line up, then turn the other cam slightly so you can insert the tool fully into place. Hope this helps.
Great video, Just out of interest is it new pulleys on with timing tool, guides and chain on then tension pin out, timing tool off, rotation of engine, timing tool back then torque the pulleys?
@guysy2011 Thanks for the comment. Yes that’s right just make sure cam pulleys are freely moving when taking the tensioner pin out and then slightly tighten cam pulleys before removing timing tool and rotating.
Very good video. What wrench is for the shaft bolt?.
Thanks Michal. Sorry I’m not sure now as I done this some time ago.
The chain or gears of the shafts have some time position
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Thank you and No probs 👍
Hi, fantastic video! I am looking at changing mine and this video is extremely helpful! Do you happen to have a video of the rattle sound you had before changing? And has the sound completely gone now you've changed it? Also how many miles is on the car if you dony mind me asking? Many thanks
Thank You Mr Bassett. Sorry I didn’t record the rattle sound as it only happened now and then and yes the sound has completely gone after doing the timing chain. The mileage is around 50k.
It's either the chain or the camshaft adjuster. Anyway it's best to replace the chain, adjuster, tensioner and guides at once (you'll have the chain off either way)
@@M4ddTr4xx Thanks, yeah I plan on changing everything as well as removing the sump for cleaning
50k and timing chain and tensioners need changing.. Wow
Cuantas horas aproximadamente?? necesitamos para quitar y poner la cadena de distribución el kit completo, sin bomba de agua.
Hi, great tutorial video. Used for my chain replacement a month ago. What is this black box at 1:51 ? I dont unplug hose/cable for this. I just take off attachment bolt and moved away. My 1.4 tsi engine runs fine atm and new chain didn't make noises during the start anymore. Thanks for the video! Ps. I recommend to buy cheap moment tool for example crank shaft pulley. Making pulley holder tool by self is quit easy as well.
Hi, thanks for the feed back and Im glad the video helped. The black box your your referring to is a EVAP charcoal canister.
If you want to do it yourself, don’t
Why?
Yeah i agree 🤣
@@lorenzomeI've just finished doing my scirocco with the same engine and the entire job was a pain. Nothing is accessible on these engines
😂😂why
No one you can sue later.
Wonderful content! Thanks for sharing. Just subscribed and liked!
Thank you for the feedback 🙏🏽
Great job. I have the same car 2009. Only 34k on clock. Not been serviced for 3 years as I do very few miles 3k p.a. Want to service the car now. Do I need the timing chain replaced as well and how much does it cost?
Thank you. If there’s no issues with the timing chain then it doesn’t need to be replaced. Just have a full service done.
Don't wait so long between oil changes. The chain's tensioner relies on oil pressure. Change oil every 12 months at an absolute minimum
the tightening of the gears on the camshafts is not shown in the video. how much torque is required for this.
Tighten the inlet camshaft (40Nm) Tighten the exhaust (50Nm) Then check timing and if the timing is correct then tighten (90°) for both pulleys. This info I got from Haynes manual.
thank you
Nice video. How many Km did the car have?
Thank you, around 50k miles
I can tell you from my own experience that the timing chain will last a maximum of 15 thousand kilometers if the pinion on the crankshaft is not replaced. Otherwise a great video. Best regards from Germany.
Thank you for the feedback.
Ist mir auch aufgefallen. Für mich ist das mehr Pfusch wie er gearbeitet hat
Hi I'm looking at doing this and replacing everything, chain, tensioner, guides, vvt, crank gear and exhaust valve gear. Is there any advice you have regarding doing this job? I'm thinking of removing the sump as a precaution for cleaning as I hear the oil pickup can get clogged sometimes Thanks
@trekker6981 At last! I've watched several videos on this timing chain replacement and you're the first I've read who actually mentions this. I assume it is like putting just a new chain on old bike sprockets which was always a no-no to me. seems i will be replacing oil pump chain at the same time as that adage works other way round.
Great video. Nice angles and clear image. What did you torque the cam bolts to? I didnt see that? Cheers
Thanks for the feedback This info I got from Haynes manual for cam torques Tighten the inlet camshaft (40Nm) Tighten the exhaust (50Nm) Then check timing and if the timing is correct then tighten (90°) for both pulleys.
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My touran 2008. 1.4 tsi. Is running not great and putting fuel in threw oil could this be the timming off
Thanks for the video. And which step did you tighten the camshaft bolts to the camshaft gears? Was it while the crankshaft locking bolt and camshaft holding tool was still in and the chain tensioner pin had been pulled? Cheers
Hi the steps I followed was make sure timing tools are in place , install new chain and pull the tensioner pin and then slightly tighten the bolts (cam) while timing tools are in place and then turn engine to check timing. If timing marks all line up after x2 turns (put timing tools back in place) then tighten bolts to the correct torque settings. Hope that helps
@@iAutoTech amazing thank you.
can you write if you need any special tools on tight bolts on camshafts, thx for answer@@iAutoTech
@@diagnostikacartruck1398 you can get a tool to hold the cam sprockets while you tighten the bolts but I used drill bits and a screw driver which I wouldn’t recommend.
Was ist mit dem Zahnrad auf der Kurbelwelle ? Hat das kein Verschleiß?
@AutiTech like this chain :) its like BMY 1.4 TSI change ? steps like this-?
Good morning, ask. At the tip of the crankshaft, apart from the sprocket with the teeth where the distribution chain goes, the cylindrical casauillo with its oring internally, the timing belt and the pulley for the accessory belt. DOES IT HAVE 2 WASHERS? When disassembling I did not realize and I only have 2 washers but they are equal to each other, but the detail is that the external dianeting of the washer is the same as that of the cylindrical bushing, but the internal diameter is larger than the diameter of the tip of the crankshaft remaining with clearance. In one part of the manual there is a breakdown and it does not include the 2 washers and in another part of the manual there is a breakdown with the 2 washers but these are 2 washers of different sizes from each other, and the title is written as "repair kit "This washer is diamond coated
@nahuelestebo9088 Hi, if your asking about the crankshaft bolt theres only 1 washer.
@@iAutoTech good day. Is the washer that you tell me the same as the one for the crankshaft bolt? the washer that is between the head of the screw and the pulley? Aren't there 2 other washers that go after the pulley and before the crankshaft sprocket?
52:28 is it this part your asking me about? If it is then there’s only one washer. Check the link www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134411018688?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=grQPZ242R9y&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=Knc-C0rbRia&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Hi.. 🙂.. Trying to help a friend of mine,with this exact procedure.. though..he bought the car as a "non-runner"..😑.. sounds like the engine has no compression.. timing-chain is stretched though.. any ideas? Will remove sump,to check oil-pump.. Btw.. what kit did you use? Both the tool-kit,and the timing-kit..🙂
Hi, I would check compression and timing first before removing anything. Timing kit I used www.ebay.co.uk/itm/393420043171?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=UB597qhlS2-&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=Knc-C0rbRia&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Very good video. When u started the engine after timing chain replacement, the engine still rattled. Is that normal..?
Thank you, the noise is normal when I started the car, it went quite as the oil got around the new chain and tensioner.
53:26 There should be oil with the vw 504/507 standard.
Did you follow the repair manual for torque specs?
Only for the cam pulley bolts.
I smell a real Mechanic right there....this is not diy-er :) But excellent Job after all!
C’est un super travail J’ai une question, le moteur est toujours un peu brouillant ? Surtout à froid, c’est normal ? Ça claque beaucoup ce moteur ? Merci
Thank You. It use to rattle sometimes on start up and after the timing chain was done it’s been ok.
Brilliant video, I'm thinking of doing this myself, I was wondering if you changed the crankshaft gear? Also may I ask if you have a link to the parts kit used, thank you
Thanks John. No I didn’t change the crankshaft gear. www.eurocarparts.com/p/fai-timing-chain-kit-352441140
@@iAutoTech thank you appreciate the reply
Any advice it's rattling a bit sometimes on startup and sometimes it randomly rattles for 1-2 seconds even if the engine is warm
It could be a stretched chain as this one did it sometimes on startup for couple of seconds.
Very good job. Where are you from brother?
Thank you STROE, I’m based in Birmingham..
very helpful video bud, how long did this roughly take
Thank you. It took around 5hours to do.
I would not touch it either. You need to know exactly what you are doing and have the right tools. Besides.... I am in ny 70'ties, retired and tired working on cars. 😊
I’m confused I have the exact same engine replaced the timing chain and it still makes the same noise
Very nice, thank you! Please what parts did you use? OEM, FAI, Hepu? I have a 2005 1.4 FSI AXU 60k miles. It rattles at cold start 2 3 seconds, if is stays for a couple of days. I switched to 5w40 from 5w30 but it still does. Please do you have a link for how the comparator clock works? I don t get it why you have to use it twice.
Thanks for the feedback. I used FAI timing kit. Oil thickness wouldn’t really make a difference to a stretched chain. Comparator?
Thank you! Comparator clock =the tool that you put on cilinder one instead of the sparkplug.
@@cartaginalandscape6349sorry don’t have a link.. it just shows piston at TDC.
Thanks! Please, i have a couple of questions. May I write it here or you have an e-mail adress? I'm not from U.K. I don't want to polute here(don't know the youtube policy) or bother you.
@@cartaginalandscape6349 no probs just write it here
Aftet how much km ? Chain should be changed ?
It’s advised to be replaced around 100k-120k miles.
what company did you install the spare parts from?
Euro Car Parts
How many hours approximately? To remove and install the timing chain we need the complete kit, without water pump.
I would say roughly around 5/6hours that’s with the sump removal and replacing the bottom crack sprocket.
@@iAutoTech Thank you so much
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Hi there can these engines still run when jumped the timming. My sons car has few codes p0016 p2293 been told timming has jumped but car still runs and drives but no very good
Hi mate I would advise you to get the timing checked first with the codes you got and not to drive the car. Sounds like a stretched chain.
Thanks for the reply buddy. yeah cars parked up now been told timming issue. But garages close to me are not want to work on it hate the engine they said . Vw said 1200 but that’s if engine is all ok will they need to test pressure or cyclinders
I have a VW touran 1.4 tsi cvac engine which rumbles on start, on 114 k miles, i may need chain and associated parts changed very soon. Would you be open to doing it? Im based in Bham, if not who could you point me to?
Sorry I’m not taking on any work at the moment. Just try your local garage.
@iAutoTech won't be doing that. I had a golf same engine twincharged in 2017, took it to a local mechanic for similar work and the crankshaft pulley fell off while driving some while later. Wrecked the car. Will just look for a reputable place. How much do you think I should be charged for whole chain kit replacement including labour, ball park?
@@hnc9costs wise it depends on the garage labour rate per hour. This job will take no more then 6hours and this timing chain kit was £300.
Hi mate, is it possible to reach for some questions before I srart this?
Yeah sure
HOW MANY HOURS DID YOU DO IT? FRIEND!
Think it was about 5hours
Camshaft gears were replaced but not the cranckshaft one, this might work but it's not the best solution. Also, there is no torque tightening at all.
@Vintaginside Thanks for the feed back 👍
Super Video! Ich hätte bei dieser Grosser arbeit auch die ölwanne abmontiert und das kurbelwellenzahnrad mit gewechselt da dieses am meisten verschleisst ,,kannst es dir in meinen video anschauen ebenfalls die kette für den Ölpumpenantrieb inkl spanner auch mitwechsel. Gruss Amel
@autoklinik2967 Thanks for the feedback.
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Is it possible to do this without a dial gauge? Using only the cam lock & crank tool
Yes you can use a screwdriver to check the piston is at TDC
@iAutoTech thank you last question; to get tdc, should the crank hit the locking bolt 🔩 when you rotate clockwise, or you get tdc before the crank hits the locking bolt 🔩?
@@luckympho_mShould get TDC when the crank tool hits. I would Add a gauge/screwdriver just so I know it’s at TDC.
@iAutoTech did the same process twice. At first, i thought my timing wasn't ryt then re-did the timing, but the car still cranks only no start
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Do i have a bad tensionner in my picture please help thank you
Sorry can’t tel by looking at the image
Is this the CAXA engine?
Yes mate
bolt tightening torque?
Which bolt?
Alguien sabe dónde comprar el kit para bloquear los árboles de levas el cigüeñas y el tensor de la cadena?
Have a look on Amazon or eBay, got mine from ebay
Alles gut und schön. Aber nur die Hälfte gemacht..... was ist mit dem Zahnrad der Kurbelwelle und der Kette für die Ölpumpe inkl. dem Zahnrad der Ölpumpe. Diese Arbeit hätte er noch machen müssen 😮
I have an Volkswagen touran 1.4 tsi and i was at dealer to ask if they can change the chain ,but they told me that is not needed to do it never . I ask another one and they told me the same , they said on this model is not necesary to change the chain . And the 3rd one ask me 2700€ to do it but they said also is not necesary to do that because this chain is made to work entire life of the car . Something is strange
Are you having any issues with it?
This is so much more complicated than the 1.2 tsi.
ciao vorrei sapere perche il comparatore e messo non a zero e poi non si legge a quanti gradi e messo grazie
It doesn’t need to be set at zero, it’s just a guide to show TDC
@@iAutoTech cosa sarebbe il TDC?
@@ziupeppuwhen the pistons at the top on cylinder 1
It's okay good video but , explanation is vital.
Pourquoi remplacer la chaîne,
At least tell us which socket u use during the process
I’m doing my timing Chain on the same engine and I was wondering what size socket fits on the bottom pulley? I know it’s a 12 point on but what size. Thanks
I think it was 19mm
@@iAutoTech thank you. How did you crack it off. I can’t get the car up to get enough leverage on it
@@samporter9003 10:56 I used my impact gun
@@iAutoTech yeah I saw that. Just didn’t know if you’d cracked it first. Thanks anyway
It's a 21, use the crankshaft locking pin to remove the pulley
tu pudiera hacerlo si puede o me puede recomendar a un mecanico
Sorry won’t be able to help, I’m in England and I believe your in Florida.
Hallo ich habe auch ein Problem mit Auto golf 5 1.4 fsi Code p0191 und p1031 keine paw kann sie mir helfen bitte
Hi, Check the intake manifold air control valve.
Et les couples de serrage 🧐????
It’s secret
Nooooooo Clean the parts before mounting everything back :(
Kein Kühlwasser aufgefüllt😂😂😂
Audi a1
Timing chain u don't speak how to timing the chain and marking
It’s all shown in the video. What do you need to know?
Ugyes,de wosvágen láncos vezérléssel nem kellene ,anyi mindent lebontani,lehetne egyszerűbb konstrukció.
buen trabajo creo gue mi carro tiene ese problema gue precio puede salir ese trabajo es un vw 2012 cc 2.0 L turbo si me puedes ayudar
Thank you. Cost wise your probably looking around £600/£700 all in.
hay algun lugar ho taller gue pueda llevarlo para saber esatamente lo gue tiene
@@arielrovero1572what’s your location?
@@iAutoTech vivo en hialeah codigo 33018
Benzin ist
Mudo
total bullshit, that's exactly why the chains don't last long because the bottom worn sprocket isn't changed. do it once do it right
Ok mate calm down, you’ll be glad to know this wasn’t your car and It was done as requested.
@@iAutoTech You know, I've been doing this for 35 years, and I hear from consumers how bad these engines are, and then I see something that just gets really wrong, bad, or incompletely repaired. and I have to be angry about that. if you mess up then please don't do it in front of the camera. that reflects badly on everyone.
@@iAutoTechwhat about the bottom worn out sprocket? well for more details!
what about the bottom worn out sprocket? well for more details!
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Thank you for the great video, it is helping alot.. however I have a question about the chain you changed in the engine does it cause the (EPC) light to turn on in the car tableu? Thanks in advance!
Thank you. Yes it can do if the timings out and the vehicle goes into limp mode.