Ultimate WILDLIFE camera: Sony a1 vs Nikon Z9 vs Canon R5
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PART 1 "DUMPING MY CANON R5": • Dumping my Canon R5? (...
PART 2 "TRAVEL & LANDSCAPE": • Nikon Z9 vs Sony a1 / ...
PART 3 "PORTRAITS": • BEST Portrait Camera: ...
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0:00 Introduction
0:48 KEH Spot 1
1:34 Nikon Z9 Price, Handling & Weight
3:19 Canon R5 Price, Handling & Weight
4:06 Sony a1 Price, Handling & Weight
5:07 Frames per Second
7:06 Nikon Z9 Pre-Release Capture
8:12 KEH Spot 2
9:35 Rolling Shutter
10:24 Autofocus Tracking & Animal Eye AF
13:31 Memory Cards & Buffering
15:02 Summary
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And that bird had a family 😂😂😂😂
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Maybe they lived happily ever after 😅😅
Haha, that was a good one! Have to say after watching I’m even more happy with my D6/D850 combo, I have the best of both worlds. The Z9 is amazing and I don’t own one, so I’ll hold off on completely spitting on those who do. I love Nikon, they are killing it with amazing lenses, incredible prices on the Z9 and 800pf lens, etc. What’s more important though to me, is reliability and that’s why I’m super hesitant to buy a Z9. My D6 just won’t miss, I mean I have to really screw up for my D6 to miss a shot, which is user error, not the camera. In my brief time with two sample/NPS Z9’s that I’ve played with, I found the Z9 learning curve too severe. I’m so used to my brain/eye/hand coordination and controlling AF by back button AF/AF Joystick. I honestly can’t remember ever feeling let down by my D5’s or D6, D850. They just work, no matter what and I love the WT-6A wireless transmitter…which the Z9 does not support. Being able to get images to my editors fast is incredibly important on big local/national news stories, like wildfires. I am a photojournalist and I just don’t have the time or patience to learn a whole new camera, let go and let the A.I. tracking do it’s thing. In my limited, and admittedly lacking time spent with the Z9, I felt it was costing me more images than it was getting me. Sure 20FPS does indeed best 14fps by a fair amount. Again though, I’m not feeling like I am missing out. Am I crazy? Or am I the only sane one here? Maybe I’m just getting old, I’m boring I guess., lol.
This is the line I am back to Sony again lol
I got to the end of this video, and I thought what a huge amount of work went into this to show us how each camera performs, thank you guys.
( 13:33 ) the Nikon Z9 using a SANDISK card and ( 14:55 ) the Canon R5 using a PROGRADE card
Wow wow wow ( 13:33 ) the Nikon Z9 using a SANDISK card and ( 14:55 ) the Canon R5 using a PROGRADE card and by using only 3D AF on the Nikon Z9 which only a SMALL BOX and using 2 type of AF combination on the Sony . What a comparison, well done ..............................
And 1 more thing, the picture was showing Nikon shooting 1) at 850mm at 1/80 f5.6 on BIF 2) Canon was shooting at 500mm 1/13200 f8 3) Sony at 1200mm 1/320 f8 on bird perching ?????? WOW , I think i will switch to Canon or Sony. Cause Canon and Sony picture look a lot more better.
Very good explanations of all the pertinent factors. Thank you for a great job answering my questions.
I went for the Sony A1 with 400mm to get that F2.8 - no regrets, my dream wildlife set up. Can always switch to aps-c or add on teleconverter for extra reach, but gives me greater flexibility, particularly when shooting large mammals. The A1 is an incredible camera - I can even AF on dragonfly’s in flight! Once locked on, is really sticky and keeps on subject. I have only ever missed AF with really messy background, and that is rare
My R5 afs on Dragon flys in flight centre point, expanded centre and so at, no problem. Even way after sunset at iso 12600. The a1 doesn't have bird eye tracking on video. My R5 does, and is much cheaper.
Awesome! I’ve got the a1 as well but not the 400mm f2.8 yet, someday tho! I’ve got 5 GM’s and working towards those goals.
Both canon and nikon also on have 400 2.8? Granted Canon's offering is not native.
I can't think of any birding comparison of cameras that compare to this. Thank you!
Chelsea - You did a wonderful evaluation of addressing your honest opinion of all three Cameras, I truly enjoy viewing and listening to your presentations of Photography especially when it comes to your Favorite (WIld-Life Photography). I know that presenting information like this and being honest is greatly appreciated, Thank You so very much
Amazing video. Very deep and informative. Glad it shows the equivalent in metric system for the rest of the world.
Thanks Chelsea your video is helping with which way I want to go can't wait for the final video .
That's the kind of video I expect from your channel. Very informative video. Love it
Regarding the BIF test, small subject tracking is exactly what Nikon addressed in firmware 2.1 (apart from some other things).
Does anyone know how the AF of the Z9/z8 performs now after several updates? Has it improved a lot?
This is just perfect, I Love watching you chasing wildlife and doing reviews on these 3 systems Chelsea, I think they are all good systems regardless, it is the photographer behind the camera.
Like the introduction to a great new full-featured film packaged in this inspirational piece.
Good video, love the positivity about three awesome cameras!
Great and entertaining video with positive attitude! Your videos always makes my day better. Can’t wait for the next part :)
I agree with Chelsea on KEH...I set myself up with a Nikon D800 and several supporting lens for much less than buying new. Very happy with my purchases with KEH...thanks Tony and Chelsea!
Looks like a nice workout! Interesting to see the actual AF performance on video!
Kudos to you Chelsea, you were on a roll in this one! - to the point, fast and factful, with obviously massive background effort - yet fun to watch and presented with a wink :) . Thanks, Carlo
Fantastic review - have loved this channel for over a decade!
And that bird had a family.... 😂😂 The best shots of humor are the ones you don't expect. Great video, much infos, great work.
This was an awesome comparison video. Great vibes too! You gotta teach some of these other reviewers to loosen up a bit!
The best part of your job (besides the money) is being able to have and use all camera brands (you never really have to choose 😊) as viewers that do have to choose its great to have you guys doing honest reviews on these cameras and lenses. The best part is you can’t go wrong with any of these three brands, they are all great. I moved from a D850 to a Z9 and it’s been the greatest upgrade of any gear that I’ve ever purchased!
have you upgraded to fw 3.0 and if so did it improve a/f like for the bird a/d chelsea was talking about`? Cheers D
@@donmcphee2821 I don’t shoot birds, but I noticed a slight difference on the af stickiness. It was pretty great before.
Wow, that was one energetic and entertaining video. Loved the humor. Thank you.
... and that bird had a family ... LOL! Another great video on this channel.
Looking forward to seeing how the Fujifilm X-H2S with the new 150-600 measures up against these!
It shoots 40 fps, $2,500, great grip, good af. If I’m a wildlife photographer I’d buy this all day. But if I’m a full time NatGeo photographer R3 wins me
I tried that months . Really good too
The AF is going to hold it back.
Question for you (and others in this section). I am not a wildlife guy, but want to learn. I am using Fuji xt3 (not gonna upgrade until the xt5). I plan to get the new 150-600mm lens. I am concerned about the f8 at the long end. However, I have seen most of the wildlife pictures are at f5.6 and above (many at f8). Should I just go ahead with that one or go for the 100-400, compromising on the reach (the fov gives close to 600mm on a apsc for sure)?
“and that bird had a family” hahaha
Thank you Chelsea for the comparison. I have tons of older F mount lenses esp the 600/4 so can I use them flawlessly on Z9 with the adapter? I have already bought A1.and it works with newer E mount lenses. Oddly here in Hong Kong A1 is less, much less expensive than Z9.
Thanks you two... Wish u guys did wildlife workshops... I'd drive for a weekend.. Thanks!!
All cameras were impressive. Great video Chelsea.
Thank you, Pauline!
Great review. My wife ordered me the Z9, which I wanted because it does great photography for my Landscape and Wildlife ( not much with birds) and I already have a lot of F mount lens so I can start off with the camera without having to purchase new glass right away.
Good Choice.
I did the same thing and had previously purchased the FTZ II adapter in anticipation of buying a Z body.
Thank you Chelsea and Tony for a wonderful SERIES of photography videos. After an 8 month wait, my Z9 arrives next week. This puts a great perspective on it. Some of your videos, like Tony's explanation of ISO, I use all the time in talking with less informed photography hobbiests. :)
can you do a review on tamron 35-150mm on a sony a7iii or a7iv.. for travel street landscape and walk around and also portraits..
Do these cameras give you the ability to bluetooth your photos directly from you camera to an iPhone to then post on Instagram or other social media platforms? Or are the files too large and you must make them smaller in a photo editor software?
>And that bird had a family. lmao Great video
The main issue with Sony is the lack of firmware support and not adding new features to the A1 that are implemented in their newer but cheaper cameras. At this stage, Nikons continued software updates have pushed the Z9 performance far higher, whilst the small firmware update to the Sony A1 a few months ago made the af performance on my camerea worse than before. If you buy an expensive top flight camera, whichever brand, you should expect that it is well supported and competetive for 3 years at least....In this mirrorless era, continued and frequent software/firmware improvements/support should be a given.....its part of the ownership experience..
Yeah, Sony is well known for that. They're all about the now
Don't the Z mount native lenses focus a little bit better? I think there's 10 microprocessor pins on the F-mount lenses compared to 12 on the new Z mount lenses. It'd be interesting to see the af performance of the 400mm f2.8 Z with the new af motor compared to the F-mount equivalent.
Had a sony A1 for a few months now couldn’t be happier with the camera.Came from an Olympus em 1 mkiii which has the precapture shooting years before Nikon 😊
Great work .. thank you
what happen to the 120 fps on the z9 would have love to get your take on that one.
Why didn't you add the tripod and gimbal used in this video in the shopping guide of gear used in the video?
we all have our preferences, that's for sure. I been using Nikon for several years and still have a 7100 and a D850 which I still think is an amazing camera. I bit the bullet and ordered a Z7ii a couple days ago, not because its the best camera but for what I use my camera for there is just something about the image quality from a Nikon and the rendition of color to me is above all the rest, of course we all have out preferences and that's a good thing, this way we have more choices and more competition which we all benefit from no matter what platform your on. Cheers to you all! Thanks Chelsea for the great review!
Thanks for the exhaustive test decided for A1 with 200-600 Lens!
Had me in stitches, “and that bird had a family” 😂
This is a very well-done video. Easy to follow and understand. What's not easy is being able to fathom the price of all of that equipment. As an amateur/enthusiast it's really hard to find glass for wildlife/sports that is good quality and affordable. Even for my Fuji, the glass with reach is very expensive. Any thoughts about this would be appreciated. I'm going to Watkins Glen for the Six Hours at the Glen next week and right now only have the 18-55 from Fuji along with some vintage glass. My local camera shop doesn't have any Fuji glass to rent and I don't have an adapter for a lens like the Canon 100-400 which they do have to rent. Again, suggestions welcome!!! Thanks for a fun video. It was a bit funny seeing you holding those two massive lenses at the beginning of the video. Nice workout right there!
HI Tony, which lens do you used to film Chelsea, especially at the end, love the Bokhe
Sony 24mm F1.4GM.
I have an old Canon 70D and I am planning to FINALLY take the plunge into wireless. I was planning to stay in the Canon Family but your & Tony's review about lack of third party glass has me hesitant, as well as the rolling shutter bend issue. My main focus is bird photography. A key consideration is my size. I am very petite, 4'10" with small hands. The Z9 is already off my list due to the size and weight. Since many of my lenses are also older, I can accept investing in Sony Compatible Glass. I'm writing for your and/or viewer opinions moving forward. Thanks!
“…and that bird had a family.” Love the sense of humor.
I've used my R5 for wildlife for a year and a half now and I'm very happy and satisfied with my camera. But now, when it's autumn and colder days I really wish that Canon would give us a firmware update with the option of a shutter sound in silent mode like the R7. Autumn winter and spring can be very cold here in Scandinavia, and very often I simply can't feel the trigger. I have taken thousands of pics when I have "half pressed" the trigger button waiting for the right moment, when in fact I have pushed it too far/hard, resulting in a full buffer and no images. I just bought the R7, and shooting high frame rates with shutter sound is like magic. Losing feeling in fingers sucks! Dang, my English is super rusty!
grrrreat presentation. so fluent, concise, engaging. and yeah, together with your partner, the amount of work you put in is humongous! that's called passion - and it's infectious.
Awesome job Chelsea! I love these types of videos!
Love your content... Keep up the good work... I just got my Z9 last Saturday woohoo... I have only at the moment used it with my FTZ II and 200-500... I have a problem... The firmware is 2.1... With the camera turned on... Looking through the LCD, if I am not pressing ANY button... After a certain time (a few seconds), the LCD's frame rate drops... and after it drops if I put the camera to my eye, the viewfinder also has a significantly lower frame rate (you can visibly see the stuttering)... As soon as you press a focus button or half press the shutter button the frame rate in the viewfinder becomes normal becomes normal... Have you encountered this???
It's 3 o'clock in the morning here in middle europe. Are you guys live? I can't sleep. Start to watch the Vid with mymini black panther. Thanks and cheers.
"... and that bird had a family" 🤣😂🤣😂
Eagerly waiting to see the review of the new 400 tc lens from Nikon.
Fair and well-balanced review, highlighting the strengths and weaknesses of each of these amazing systems. Only thing i’ll add on the Nikon side, I’d love to see the same AF field tests with a native mount 400 TC and/or 800 PF. That F 600 4 is one of the few F mounts that does take a performance hit via the FTZ adapter.
They have the later version of the 600/4 and I can tell you that’s not the limiting factor on the Z9. I have the Z9 and the Z400/2.8 The AI subject detection still needs work IMHO
@@kuau714 A truly fair comparison can't be made if one setup has a legacy / adapted lens that has been measured to achieve focus slower (vs the same 600 4 on F bodies). That said, yes I 100% agree with you regarding subject detection / lock - I'm just not convinced that particular lens on the FTZ does not factor in.
Sony a1 7000€ vs Canon R5 4500€ vs Nikon Z9 6500€. For it to be a fair review it should be A1vsR3vsZ9
No it's not fair. I think they deliberately used an adapted lens on Nikon to make it look bad. Heck even the slower 100-400 native lens will do better than any adapted lens, moreso for BIF photography.
@@phototester You can't add the R3 because it's using a low MP sensor...
is there a way to disable the SMALL squares in tracking? they really block the view of the BIRD HEAD. Without that you can tell where the bird is heading and hence tracking become more difficult. in this test R5 did not encounter those white bird in flight. I wonder if it too would lose tracking....
Here we go , dumping R5 for Sony A1
Very informative 👏
I would love you guys to review the OM-1 with the 150-400mm f4.5 and let us know how it stacks up against these 3. Unfortunately it doesn't look like the big 3 will release a Pro APSC camera (BSI Stacked etc) any time soon, I didn't want to ever go back to m4/3 but it does look like it's a great combo.
i loved this review. Good Job.
Ok. Chelsea, straight up. You had me laughing out loud when you were like. “And that bird had a family”. Thanks.
I am so confused my head hurts, not long started photography and have a Nikon D5600, I know I need to upgrade my camera do I go D850 which is where I was leaning toward or go for the mirrorless option. I dont want to change manufacturer as my lenses are Nikon.....help please??
I find it funny about the importance of shooting 20 or 30 fps and show us the eagle photo with the fish which I believe was shot a few years ago with a much lower fps camera :-) I wish that this 'review' included some of the actual (nice) wildlife shots that you took with these combos. I mean several months and thousands of frames with the best wildlife gear money can buy, there should be loads of nice photos to include.
Ooooh my gooood looord. I feel like om gonna feel the same frustration in a couple of weeks from now, doing wild life photography.
I still use mine Sony A7RIV and A7RIVA for wildlife and I am very happy with them, I do not change camera gear as often as some change the clothes... and I can crop a LOT !
Great video of the best in the market! now please try include the Fuji X H2s with the 150-600mm. Thanks
Swallows in flight are tougher than anything you or any other channel has tried with these reviews. I would love to compare my swallow-in-flight pics taken with the Z9 and 500PF against anyone else's with any other combination. And that's with me never trying to photograph a swallow before the last few months.
Well as much as `i look forward to getting a z9, after taking a 6year hiatus from photography., I'm not sure how ``I'll react with all this cool A/F and all its hi tech features I can honestly say with my D3, D3s and D4 I was never wanting with better results though I shot differently than using face recognition, or any of the other cool features. I used AF single point, back button A/F and followed my subject and was always pleased with my results. Don't get me wrong there was always room for improvement but that was mostly me, better eye/hand coordination and muscle memory. This is gonna be fun!!
What tripod setup was used in this video
Love the smooth wide shots of Chelsea at the end - is that a 24 1.4 on some sort of gimbal?
Yes, exactly right. Sony a7S III on an RS2.
Why didn't you mention Z9's 120 fps? I know there are some drawbacks but could definitely help in getting that perfectly timed shot.
It's really low megapixel. I'd use it for sports but not wildlife.
12MP JPEGS vs 45MP or 50MP RAW files? Not much of a comparison for wildlife shooting.
Did you know it's only 12MP and JPG only? The OM-1 does 120 with full resolution raws, plus 2x crop for more reach.
Nevernind, it's 11MP, not 12MP. Even worse than I thought lol.
I would never use that. Low quality images...and jpeg. Big numbers sound good for advertising the product though.
Great job Chelsea...right decision 😊
Well done Chelsea, good review.
The best fun photography information
Is the R3 a better model to be compared with Z9 and A1 ?
I reviewed it in another video. This series is about what I’m choosing as my camera and how I make that choice. You could use all of my same criteria, or your own, to make an informed choice about the R3.
The R3 isn't a high megapixel camera, which we require for wildlife where heavy cropping is almost a given.
@@TonyAndChelsea Ah , I understood now . Can't believe the R3 is the most expensive full flame out there .
thanks I have z9 and the a1 looking at the canon r3 this video is fair am a fan THE A1 rocks but I still have love for the Nikon z9
It isn’t a high resolution body
When I saw the Z9 footage.... Chelsea, did you spit on the sensor again?
It’s official, I like Chelsea’s videos better!! What a great host!
I like to travel especially into the tropics. Currently I use Pentax because it is so rugged and waterproof and frankly I prefer to see my subject with my own eyes. I am getting older though. I am not likely going to be traveling with a 600mm f4 lens so I have been trying to give this some thought if I move to mirrorless. Light weight is an issue for me so the two options I have been thinking about are a Z9 + 500mm f5.6 (very light compact lens) or a Sony with the 200-600. So if COMBINED weight AND fully sealed lenses are an issue, which way would you go?
Thank you for your testing, even I can't afford any of them.
Actually the Nikon Z9 can record 8K 60p RAW internally and 8K up to 30p in ProRes 422HQ. The camera can record 4K UHD at up to 120 with no cropping. Internal recording with 10-bit color and 4:2:2 sampling is possible in the ProRes 422 HQ and H.265 codecs, and H.264 and 4:2:0 color can be used. A drawback with the Sony and Canon cameras with high resolution sensors is the lack of any battery pack attachment that will hold a full size battery with power comparable to the Nikon EN-EL18d battery. One can use an external power source and USB-C cables but it is not as clean a solution.
Nice comparison, but why the Canon R3 is not there? It’s the Canon’s model that competes with the Z9 and A1 (until the R1).
It's low megapixel which is not ideal for wildlife which is frequently cropped. We own it but it's a sports camera.
Hi Chelsea. There you go. There you go. I have nothing critical to say about your review. Overall I think you did a good job on all 3 cameras. Like I said before, no camera is perfect and all 3 have strengths and weaknesses. I like the fact you highlighted the Z9 a bit with features not found on the Sony or Cano and you also mentioned weaknesses on the Canon with rolling shutter. Kudos. If the Z9 is a bit behind with AF bird in flight tracking, that's nothing a good firmware update can't fix. Not a deal breaker. All this being said. You are welcome on my Podcast anytime. Would love to have a conversation with you guys. Raw unscripted and real. Take care & ROCK N ROLL 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
You may be correct that a firmware update would correct this but Nikon has already produced a major firmware update that supposedly addressed this issue but it didn't. The truth is that the A1 and R5 are vastly superior when it becomes to bird acquisition and tracking. I have been shooting birds, with the Z9, for about 4 months now and accept its autofocus limitations.
@@lcador9 fw 2.0 was not a major af update. Very minor.
Ha!! Tracking a gray bird in gray clouds vs tracking in blue clouds... Hmmm
Everything was filmed side-by-side. Our conclusions aren't based on the screen recordings we showed; they're based on months of real-world usage. We grabbed examples to illustrate our problems to viewers.
@@TonyAndChelsea those scenes are a little too chaotic...
Appreciate your contribution to world, thanks for amazing videos
Where did you shoot at?
"and that bird had a family" lol
Tested thoroughly? 70,000 shots with each camera? Come on, that's like half an hour of shooting with these beasts. 😂
Curious about an eventual review of the Fuji X-H2s. Looking at the preproduction tests from Les Guides Fujifilm (an independent French KZheadr) things look very promising with 40fps raw and solid AF
That last glance at the camera has PHEEEEEEEWW written all over it
Quick explanation for the slower focus on the nikon on lower f stops. The nikon does stop down focusing up to f5.6. That means that it will focus at the f stop you set up until f5.6, which is slower, but sometimes more precise. Afaik the Canon, Like dslr's, always focuses wide open. Don't know about the Sony.
Sony is wide open as well
"And that bird had a family." Hilarious.
"...and that bird had a family" LMAO
I've been writing RAW to the SD card in the R5. Magic?
6:42 mistake, the 30fps RAW files are not 12bit but 13bit. You should check Mark Smith on youtube, he has those 3 systems and let's say he knows his stuff!
Memory card test will depends the card from which brand
Hey guys I'm wondering to buy a camera and shoot some, just asking - why should I care about all of these quality specs, if neither youtube nor other platforms support it - I mean the shown result is still fairly low... any ideas? For print? for real photos..?