(Part 1) Apartment Arson Fire Engineer Helmet Cam POV
2024 ж. 25 Нау.
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St. Patrick’s day arson fire in Ravenna City, Ohio
4 man shift with mutual aid from surrounding cities.
St. Patrick’s day arson fire in Ravenna City, Ohio
4 man shift with mutual aid from surrounding cities.
now this is what you call a great engineer/driver right here. doesnt just stay at the pump panel he moving with a purpose and throwing ladders and tagging his own hydrant
Here he should have added a second or half length. And it's not true that he's a great engineer and driver fire engine operator, because he walks everywhere and does other things. On this call, he does it because they are short-staffed, what is the sad reality for many fire departments with personnel not in fire stations 24/7. Yes in the circumstances, he does an excellent job. He works quickly and returns quickly to his engine. But in fact, an engine driver, should remain at his pump panel at all times, if it's in operation.
@@gillesrenaud6926Buddy you don’t have any idea what you’re talking about. The notion that a good engineer is one that sits at his pump and does nothing is a sad and terrible one there wasn’t a need for another 50-100 foot section yeah there was a bend at the hydrant but as long as the pressures good to the truck it doesn’t matter. This truck is by most peoples standards fully staffed with 4 people. A good engineer is never idle, a lot of if not all of the pumps these days are set it and forget it because of things like governors in the engine. I very rarely saw him walk anywhere he mainly jogged or ran. Just accept he did a solid job and move on.
@@gillesrenaud6926 yeah suck it
@@paintballgaming1090 Not to criticize, since every call could be better, but if you're going out of your way to specifically defend the driver on innocent suggestions of how he could improve, I'll just point out: 1) running on a fire scene is a liability, is unsafe, degrades cognitive function and decision making, yet you're here praising it; 2) the attack line pressures were likely inadequate (at 8:22 you can see they're running at or under 100 psi, which would be inadequate factoring in friction loss to get any meaningful nozzle pressure when they are likely running 75-100 psi nozzles on a truck like this); 3) I don't understand all the fidgeting with the LDH intake; 4) if you have guys making an interior attack you should be at or near your panel and have a secondary water supply actively secured, not be wildly running around the scene operating on tank water; 5) should have been on hydrant water sooner, isolating tank water as a secondary reserve; 6) once on hydrant water, finally, tank to pump should have been shut off sooner, and tank fill opened more to fill up that secondary water supply. Failure to secure and maintain a secondary water supply isn't a matter of preference, it's a matter of insuring life safety. All that said, again, I'm not criticizing, just pointing out imperfections that could be improved upon for the next call since paintball seems to think this was perfect and without room for improvement. Don't we all get better by learning from our mistakes and the mistakes of others? That's the whole point of training. I'll mirror @gillesrenaud6926: great job under the circumstances, but there's always room for improvement.
@@idahomikeyes mistakes were made, nothing wrong with learning from it as you suggest however point 1 and 2… if you heard in the beginning as the truck was pulling out, a person was trapped on the balcony. To me that requires a sense of urgency not a walk. As for number 2, this engine uses a CAFS so traditional fire hydraulics is irrelevant. Not attempting to start an argument just encouraging a good conversation.
Nicely done. So professional, calm and confident. Amazing that there were only 4 of you for so long. Felt like so much more.
He was about 3 feet from not being able to get that hydrant without pulling a second length. LOL.
We have 2 short sections of LDH on the sides of the engine. He could have just attached a short 10 foot section if he was short
Who’s the beast with the 3/4 boots??? Hell ya
Amazing video, great for seeing the differences between engineer work with the US pumps and ours. Greetings from the Czech Republic.
It's always so amazing watching the Portage County departments work so well together!!
Finally! Another department that actually tests/flushes taps before using them.
Great pov, love getting to see different firefighter positions look like in real time as a current student :)
Question: What is the engineer adjusting with the handwheel on the inlet and why (if not self explanatory)?
Not enough O's in smooooth. Amazing work by a single crew.
Great video! What are the yellow handles on the console the driver is holding on to?
It’s a holder for our headsets but makes a great grab handle 🤣
Happy to see a local departments helmet cam!
Great job, with a short handed crew! Tip of the leather to your FD!
Strong quick work, dialed in!
Liked, subscribed and shared your channel and video
Can we have a video of where and how his GoPro was mounted?!
Was first due on a single family dwelling. No hydrant access. Narrow driveway with very little room and no way to get trucks past each other. We were getting ready to make entry when our engineer stopped us. The engine would not go into pump. He messed around for 30 sec then went to plan B. He pulled a 25 foot section of 5in and attached it to the tanker then started pumping with the tanker using the engine basically like a giant manifold. We lost maybe 2 min instead of ten if we had to move the engine and restretch lines. This then became SOP for all fires without hydrant access. We called it piggybacking. Engine plus tanker was 3500 gallons and gave us time to set up drop tanks and get a tanker shuttle going.
Hey brother absolutely amazing hustle. I got tired watching you roll on the 🔥scene. Good shit my man 🥃
I love the activity of the engineer. Just a question I have. Is gating down your intake a standard at your department. I have always been taught and always teach to never gate your intake down just gate your discharges.
Question. What was the reason for not just opening the MIV once water supply was established?
I was trying to figure that one out, too. I'm sure there was a reason, but I haven't come up with it yet.
I'm all for switching to supply but I see a few things. - The indicator on the cab was full (or nearly) green the entire time so must not have been using much water. Truck has CAFS as the uploader has pointed out and it carries 750 gallons of water. In Part 2 they start feeding a ladder and go down 1/4 before switching to the hydrant. - 09:55 Can see the overflow under the truck after the valve was cracked. - You do get a bit more control of the pressures by not relying on the supply. Especially if other hydrants nearby are getting used. Again, I'd rather switch and save some wear and tear on the vehicle. Plus the obvious "hydrant fails" scenario and every bit of tank water helps.
Im 80yrs old & im amazed at the cab interior.I sat in a 1939 hook & ladder where you could see the road.🤔
It’s not a helmet cam. It’s worn on his jacket. The truck has great visibility from the front seat
You seriously thought he couldn't see the road?
@@drumsoccer100I’m thinking he meant he could see the road through the floorboards as they were driving.
Is it the mic on your camera or does your engine just sound hi-pitched? Also, nice work! I love seeing an engineer that's getting it done! Ive had a lot of lazy drivers in my day.
Thanks! Zach Thomas is wearing the camera on his jacket. The engine is that high pitched. We use CAFS so the sound is the air compressor for the foam.
@TonyTomecko22 I hope you guys post more videos. I medically retired in 2012 and enjoy watching the job
Nice work. Nice engine.
whats the little yellow handle you are holding onto while driving?
Just a holder for the headsets
Question? What is the hook or box the driver holding on and touch? Thanks
It’s just a holder for our headsets
@@TonyTomeckoOK
Nice to see an EO POV!
I subscribed before even watching 🤣 Great video ,
Same here you could already tell it was a banger from the thumbnail😂
I dont comment on videos but this one was impressive everyone calm and collective and moving with purpose exactly how fire grounds should run as well as an engineer that knows his job nicely done brother
Thank you. We appreciate it!
Helluva job by the engineer and the crew, yall on top of your shit. genuine question do yall use the foam for everything or was it just in this case? i personally haven’t seen it used in situation before.
Thank you and yes we pump foam on every fire. Our engine has CAFS and has a build in air compressor so it makes handling any size line much easier. There are tons of benefits to CAFS. The only downside is the cost to install it on an engine
that’s sick! we don’t do that anywhere around where I work, so it’s really interesting to see that. thanks for the quick response back!
GREAT JOB BROTHER TONY ! DIG THE PLAN WHILE STILL IN ROUTE ! TOP SHELF WORK ! 🇺🇲
What the Handel for tue q siren
Stupid question I'm sure, but what is the yellow handle the driver is holding onto?
Just a holder for our headsets
I'm impressed, a million dollar pumper with 22carrot gold leaf.👍
Nice job and video. Most people don't get how many training hours and experience it takes to operate like this.
Great first person view of how firemen do things, we're use to seeing police officers.
where is part 2?
It’s gotta be just the sound quality but that pump sounds like it’s screeeaminggggg for help lol. Nice work, I’ll take a few of these little things the operator did into work with me tomorrow
The pump is making that sound due to the air compressor pushing air and foam into the hand lines. It’s normal for a CAFS engine
First time seeing an Fire Engineer pushing buttons, fueling water from the water hydrant and turning knobs etc. to his fire truck, usually the other firemen does that since he already did the driving to the fire scene.
What does the stuff hes holding onto with his right hand do? the sirens?
Just a holder for our headsets. He’s just holding it while driving. It doesn’t do anything
solid work!
What brand pump is that it sounds horrible.
Spartan. That sound is the air compressor since it’s a CAFS engine. Completely normal sound.
@@TonyTomecko Oh okay that makes sense.
I came in my pants when the Q sounded up for the first time
The f…
@@evanblackburn6173😂😂😂😂😂😂
What kind of unit are ya driving? Spartan?
Yes a 2021 spartan
@@TonyTomecko sure fooled me. The panel layout and the compartments look like the Stuphen I drive. Great video man!!! Talk about an example of a damn good engineer.
JUST SUBBED
Man, this dude was a one man band. He was doing just about everything except go inside….
Wasn’t his assigned role.
@@TonyTomecko We understand that. What @johnj.staunton71 is saying is that he is being an excellent engineer.
0UTSTANDING ENGINEER. Great Job,
Son wants to know what the yellow hook like thing he was holding while driving is & what it is for.
It’s just a holder for our headsets
I assume one of your crew mates charged the red line for you. Nice teamwork!
That was exactly my thought. While the engineer was having fun with the ladders somebody did the driver’s job. Nice that they knew how to operate the pump, otherwise there would’ve been significant delay in charging the house
nice slide show
Smart thinking throwing the gated wye on before charging the hydrant. Things my probie ass would never think of til afterwards
I also heard the 64 year old female who allegedly started the fire is being charged with aggravated arson which is a 1st degree felony in Ohio.
Why does he hold that yellow thing when driving? So he doesnt bounce around?
Yep
Incident Priorities: Life Safety they thought someone was trapped so they went for the rescue first. Incident Stabilization: Stretching at the same time as rescue and the line crew got their own water. Excellent Job! One question why doesn't the officer have or wear an SCBA?
What happened. How many home were lost.
The entire apartment building was torn down. Someone broke in 2 days after this fire and relit it
Hip boots at 9:28???????
Where is this? Guys are with it!
Ravenna City, Ohio
Bonjour super la vidéo respect aux pompiers leurs travail pas facile leurs dévouement a sauver les gens et les biens
Hardest working guy on the fire ground.
Do you guys pack a lip or anything during calls? Like maybe a pouch or something? I'd need something to help give me a jolt of alertness while also calming me down
Of course 🤣
This guy is a bad ass!!
I feel like I’m watching the dude who does the McDonald’s POV videos, but he had a career change.
Why does your truck sound like it’s squealing? Is it the air primer?
It’s a CAFS engine. It’s the onboard compressor pushing air and foam in all our handlines
What took you so long to establish a water supply you opened your piston intake and then closed it multiple times?
Reports of a person trapped on the second floor balcony. Human life is obviously more important than hooking a hydrant immediately so he grabbed a ladder. We use CAFS so our onboard water supply goes much further than a standard engine.
@@TonyTomecko ok I get that you have a supply in your tank but still don’t get opening and closing of the piston intake just open it and have a supply that has nothing to do with throwing ladders he already threw ladders before messing with his intake.
@@claycuthrell I don’t have an answer for why he did that
I had the same question. Open the intake and take that task off your plate.
no hydrant bag?
What's going on with the kids writing on the vehicle?
What are you referring to?
Close ..your tank to pump once on hydrant water,
Eh, 2 schools of thought on that one. If you're super anal about your pump and know it in and out I tend to leave it open. I'd rather have interior members not lose ANY water if my supply is lost. If you're busy, running around doing shit and you don't have a lot of manpower on scene I'd definitely close it, that way you have a little wiggle room to get your water supply remedied.
I just gotta point out that body cams are better than helmet imo
Absolutely
Recognize a rosenbaur interior any day lol
Actually it’s a Spartan
@@TonyTomecko I stand corrected beautiful truck
Need to get the gopro out of the drivers lap so we can see out of the windshield.
The GoPro was mounted on his jacket. Having it mounted in the helmet isn’t ideal as it doesn’t show as much of a hands on view
I really wonder why is the engineer is holding to that yellow hook thing when he's driving ?
It’s just a holder for our headsets. It has no use while driving
@@TonyTomecko So, you're holding it for the comfort, right ?
@@evaninknema2691 I assume he was just holding it to avoid moving too much when he turned as a grip
Seatbelt honk and wave
What's the point of having your own department if you're staffing the entire agency with 4 people? Merge with the next jurisdiction over at that point.
Normal staffing is 6-7. Minimum of 4. We run roughly 3,600 calls a year. We had to fight to get a 7th guy for normal staffing.
@@TonyTomecko still absurd. If you're mutual aiding the first alarm assignment, it's time to close shop. Nothing against the guys you work with, but it's pointless for the city to even have you guys.
@@someguy9873 this is northeast Ohio. Not a large city at all. All cities in this area besides Cleveland and Akron mutual aid for first alarms. That’s the reality of it.
In My town they lifted residency for paid firefighters paid police officer and public works they all moved to Indiana where they don't pay for firefighters so my town went to hell so we left right after they did the average for income was 80 k we all left and it dropped to 20k they had no money to hire anymore firefighters and police😂😂😂😂😂😂😊
You must be an old firefighter. Welcome to the new generation. We don’t have the staffing. My generation is ruining blue collar jobs.
120 set it and forget it bro!
That’s not as with a CAFS engine
That captain needs to make some decisions a little more efficiently Caused the firefighters a bunch more more parking the engine so far away "do you need the 24'. no, just need to get it out of the way.... in other words he needed the 24' GREAT WORK from the driver taking care of ensuring attack lines are supported and then taking care of his own water!
What you’re saying makes no sense. He did not need the 24. The way our ladder storage is set up, it made more sense to move that ladder first for easier access. He parked at a perfect spot. Give us plenty of room to advance the crosslay to the fire. Perfect position to hook the hydrant.
Tank to pump was left open 🥴🥴
Our engine uses CAFS. No loss of pressure at the tip by leaving it open or cracked.
@@TonyTomecko That’s interesting! Good to know! I don’t know much about Spartans or what pump you guys have but we were always told that if you were to use a pressurized water source, you have to connect to our rear intake (direct) to use it with tank to pump open. Otherwise main intake would have the tank to pump closed, using plain water
I’m a Patterson firefighter
Fire fighting 35 yrs and never saw one , not one operator / chauffer wear his turn out coat . Reason told by each one . The coats have came along way but it restricts the movement of the person driving the apparatus . But I guess this is the exception and he’s the unicorn
Minimum staffing of 4 with a full shift of 6. This day we were at 4. Maybe in a large department the engineer might be able to do that, not in a minimally staffed department. As you could see, he had 20 other things to do besides run the pump. It’s not realistic to have it off.
Will the engine be staffed with 6 then or how are the crews distributed?
@@FloRider66 on a full 6 man shift, there are 4 on the engine and 2 on the ambulance. Ambulance crew grabs the hose line, the two riding backwards on the engine are tools
@@TonyTomecko driving the apparatus has nothing to do with other things that need to be done . The only thing that needs to be done is operate the vehicle while in route and back and in an apparatus a turn out fish restricts movement . I e been a paid and no paid firefighter and never saw a chauffer wear his pr he’d turnout coat while driving . And though in todays world it’s all about the staffing but myself and a lieutenant (2) on an engine company had 5 confirmed room and contents fires consecutively 5 day 1 each day and extinguished those fires with tank water and one line . 2 guys ! Before other arriving company’s arrived on scene . Those fires were with the no paid department . We never had gotten told by a chief what size line , tool etc to utilize in doing what was nessessary . If it’s big fire we used a big gun . And never buried o e of our own because of being killed by smoke , fire or falling g through a floor etc . We were made tough as nails . 4 on an apparatus was a luxury as it is today u less a pay check is going to be put in a bank account where by rule or maybe contract , guidelines , regulations in that city town or borough that put that in place . We were multi trained and we would do the jobs of a 6 man crew with out receiving a deposit in our bank account . Im not putting any department down or degrading or saying they do things wrong . Im only saying my experience driving and not along with all of the operators I know never did it . Be safe and stay safe
Why are you complaining. You act like he has to have enough movement to do a cartwheel lol
I see door left open
Why did the wagon driver throw a 24ft ladder the minute he arrived on scene? Why didn’t he hit the hydrant and make sure his crew had an adequate water supply first? The interior crew shouldn’t have to charge their own line.
We use CAFS so our onboard water goes much further than standard tanks. Human life takes priority over hooking a hydrant.
@@TonyTomecko Not against the engineer throwing ladders but unless lives were in immediate danger and the ladders were needed asap, the engine company drivers first priority is establishing a secure water source, then throw ladders. But to each is own, if the fire went out and everyone went home safe that’s all that matters.
@@Blacktooth-yr7ck immediately at the beginning it’s stated that a female is trapped on the 2nd floor.
I always thought the chauffeur's first priority was to hit a hydrant, secure and establish a water supply for the hoseline - N. OT grab a portable ladder and bring it to the rear of the building. Precious time wasted getting water on the fire. Who's manning the pump console anyway??
@@mikemaloney2342 I was on the tip. While the engineer was getting the ladder, the guy on the line with me threw the truck into pump and charged our line. We did everything correct in this situation
Exceptional job, what we all should strive for when performing this role. It may be the most impressive display of driver/operator that I've seen on video. I will certainly be using this display of excellence as a training tool at my brigade, 16,000km away.🌏
Thank you
As a person I seen fires before in real life
This is sooooooooooo badass.. I’m DRAWN